When to be Alpha and when to be Beta

RoquefortCheese · 2013-12-01T20:10:17+00:00

I like the graphs. It was both self-satirical and actually enlightening at the same time. I chuckled from the absurdity until I got three or four graphs down and it clicked. The takeaway is great: you want both parties in any interaction to feel like winners.

ultrasuperthrowaway · 2013-12-01T19:37:30+00:00

This alpha beta stuff is a joke upon itself

We aren't Greek letters

okayawayaccount · 2013-12-02T00:59:47+00:00

yeah this is poison for developing minds, don't think about this shit and just be cool

Quanginni · 2013-12-02T00:08:16+00:00

I love to read these stories:

I was in Thailand and I had just started a date with this absolutely beautiful Thai girl. We went to eat and then afterwards we met up with her best friend and her best friend’s boyfriend. Her best friend was almost as hot as she was and she was dating a 30 year old German millionaire. We sat together having drinks in an expensive hotel bar (way over my budget.) I was having trouble competing with this guy in his element and I started to notice my girl’s interest going away.

I tried to salvage the situation but it didn’t leave my perceived market value very high, especially in comparison to the German millionaire. I told my girl I must go and we walked to the subway. I knew this girl was pretty much lost, so I did a last ditch effort based on what I saw.

“You seem like a great girl, but it’s too hard for us to communicate. I think it’s better if we are just friends.” After telling her that I saw her entire body language shift. It surprised her so much and she was visually shaken.

dreguan · 2013-12-02T02:31:32+00:00

This is a really interesting breakdown.

I am going to make a conscious effort to effect an alpha/beta-supplicant disposition. I think if you're boosting both yours and the girl's/other person's value it can lead to a conspiracy of two, where you create a bubble of great rapport and intimacy; an in-joke that only you two are in on.

I think adopting this approach in all dealings (not just romantic ones) is key; a friend of mine who does my finances is a successful businessman because not only does he speak passionately about even the most mundane stuff that he does but he makes you feel like your shit is the most important shit when you talk to him. Everyone leaves the exchange feeling better about themselves.

If I was a chick, I'd be his lol

JohnnyB11790 · 2013-12-02T04:52:01+00:00

Thanks for sharing this. I hate the alpha argument usually but you do a nice job breaking it down.

I feel that you can act confident, strong, and bold and have characteristic of an alpha but you will never be an actual alpha. Women like alpha but they also like the characteristics that they bring as well.

I like being a beta and flying under most amogers radar. They think I am non threatening and joke with me when in fact I always have the last laugh. They joke I laugh, they box me out, I find a way in.

With a woman I try to gain their attention not the men around me. If a guy comments on the way I look I try to use alpha techniques to block them "awe thanks man. (Look at the girls he is with) Does he just flirt with everyone or should I feel lucky?" Thanks for opening your set to me bro, now I will get your name and talk to your girls. And now everytime I see you out I will come right up to you and shout your name across the bar (pretty beta) but again now I am in your set again. I will leech right off of you.

What do you guys think? Is this alpha or beta of me? I think I am striding a thin line.

enzo32ferrari · 2013-12-02T07:15:35+00:00

~~whoah. this is more in depth about pickup than I'm used to (it has graphs and shit!)~~

ok, so from what I understand, it's kinda like a "Goldilocks" game. you can't be too high or too low on the sexual market scale (SMS). you have to be just right, but just a little higher than her on the SMS.

utilizing alpha, alpha asshole, beta, and beta supplicant actions are how you move your, as well as her, level on the SMS

ADDENDUM: still dont understand the graphs

2013-12-02T14:55:38+00:00

always and never.

reezyreddits · 2013-12-02T15:51:45+00:00

From the article:

Romance is being beta when your value is high enough

You will notice things like this all the time all around: if a Brad Pitt type guy brings a girl flowers, it’s the most romantic gesture in the world. If a low value guy brings a high value girl flowers, it’s creepy.Girls want romantic (or beta) gestures from higher value guys. It’s actually good to do this if you have much higher value than hers. These are the types of things that will make a girl fall in love with you, beta things, but ONLY from your perch of higher value. You should NEVER do these things if she perceives your sexual market value’s to be equal. You should be trying to put yourself higher.

This is an eyeopener. Take heed.

bluedolphin4 · 2013-12-02T02:54:32+00:00

Really good article. It's always good to show your alpha side but if you act too much that way when a girl already sees you as a man of high value, you can end up just looking like an asshole. Basically, act confident, but not like an overly pompous douchebag (girls will in fact pick up on that).

angrycommie · 2013-12-02T00:25:59+00:00

If you believe the code is sufficient enough to come out of alpha stage, thats when you release a beta candidate.

JoshMcAwesome · 2013-12-01T21:19:41+00:00

aaaaaaand i call bullshit on that one.

Title	When to be Alpha and when to be Beta
Author	MondevilZ
Upvotes	128
Comments	27
Date	December 1, 2013 7:15 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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