I'm not talking about game as in get your shit together, sort out your mental issues, get rich, get jacked stuff that some people preach. I'm talking about the kind of game where you really learn the psychology of interacting with women, learning where the buttons are and how exactly to push them.

What's immoral about that?

Whether we know it or not we do push people's buttons and affect them psychologically. Even if we're straight up clueless, as long as we come in contact with other people we do have some influence on how they feel and act towards us.

So what's so wrong about knowing about that stuff and using what we know to our advantage?

I think the people who have a problem with that confuse helplessness with righteousness. They're the kind of people who'd rather not let someone learn to fight or learn to use a gun so that even if they wanted to, they couldn't do harm to someone through those means.

But are you a good person just because you lack the ability to harm someone?

Its the same with game. If you know where someone's buttons are and exactly how to push them, you can really fuck someone up but wouldn't choosing not to when you have that power make you more righteous than just not having the ability to choose?

And like fighting or using weapons, game is just a tool, its not inherently bad or good to know how to affect people to get them to do what you want, it depends on how you use that tool. You can use the ability to physically harm others as a means of protecting people and even providing for people, just like you can use the ability to influence for good. Like selling a product that really better's people's lives or selling an idea that shifts society towards a better direction. Why is deliberately causing someone to desire you sexually wrong if you actually plan of giving them a great experience with you?

If I'm missing something or I'm wrong about something please explain why. I will be more that happy and very open to taking in anyone's insight, perspectives, and opinions. Just make sure you don't take me challenging or questioning your opinion with offense because we all have to ask questions and challenge ideas to really learn something or even just verify whether something is worth learning. It would be stupid of anyone to just blindly accept someone's opinion simply because they feel strongly about it.