I feel numb and completely lost.
I (27M) been with my gf (26F) for 7 years. We're getting married in a month.
So for over 2 years now, I've been noticing that my gf has gotten a lot closer with her female cousin "Jen". They text practically daily.
My best friend's gf and my gf are in the same friend group. They went out for a girls night last night. My gf let it slip to her that she has been seeing an ex from back in her teenage years.
My best friend told me about it last night.
Turns out she saved his name on her phone as "Jen" and has been sneaking this shit under my nose and manipulating me.
I'm numb. I haven't even confronted her yet. Were getting married in a MONTH. Obviously this can't happen. but holy shit I am so overwhelmed.
Update:
I spoke with both sides of the family, and I've called off the wedding. I'm spending most of the day today calling vendors and cancelling things. I think keeping busy in this way is the only thing keeping me from breaking down tbh. Our parents are handling telling the families & friends.
I also confronted her. I waited till she was in the shower and took her phone to get absolute certainty about the texts with "Jen". This was the first and only time I've ever snooped through her phone, cause I've had absolute trust in her until now. She was literally fucking sexting him 2 nights ago. These texts go on for miles. I feel sick to my stomach thinking about it.
I'm sad. I'm angry. I'm heartbroken. I feel stupid. Betrayed. I've read almost all of your posts or DMs and I'll dive into some of the more detailed ones when things quiet down and when I inevitably get lonely and sad.
She wants to move forward with the wedding. She broke down in front of me when I confronted her with the texts. She said that we got together so young that she just wanted to explore some of her sexuality and freedom before the marriage. She swears that she made a pact with herself that it would end once we were married, and that this was just a phase. I really fucking want to believe her. I love her.
I can't do this. The foundation of our relationship; trust, safety, support, have all been shattered. I love her but I can't be with someone who has the capacity to do this to someone they love for YEARS and somehow justify it. I couldn't even imagine doing something like this to her.
I stayed at my brothers place last night I have 23 missed calls from her. I barely slept. Still feeling overwhelmed.
You have all helped me a lot, so I thought I'd take some time while having a coffee this morning to give you all an update. Many of you have been through similar things and have come out the other side. I can't thank you enough for your reminders to value myself, be strong, and believe that this will all work out for the better in the long-run.
[–]LeMansManletRacerJesus was a manlet 18 points19 points20 points (22 children) | Copy Link
Women aren't capable of monogamy
[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
(Western) women are incapable of monogamy
[+]ezbyte -8 points-7 points-6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s laughable if you think men are. Men without options are FORCED into monogamy because they have no one else in their sphere that wants to fuck them.
[+]AnyIntroduction3288 -12 points-11 points-10 points (17 children) | Copy Link
Men aren’t capable of monogamy. They constantly tell us that they want multiple wives and girlfriends and that they can cheat without getting emotions involved and that they need variety.
[–]ropecellingropecelling 6 points7 points8 points (2 children) | Copy Link
red pillers*
[+]AnyIntroduction3288 -9 points-8 points-7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Aka men
[+]Summeronmymountain -6 points-5 points-4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
AKA males of every species.
[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 4 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Sexually satisfied men aren't looking for multiple wives or girlfriends. As long as you are having consistent enthusiastic sex with your boyfriend or husband he won't look elsewhere
[–]AnyIntroduction3288 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
LMFAO not according to the guys here. Or else you mean having sex like 15 times a day.
[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The guys on here literally say they are perfectly fine with one woman if they have an active and engaging sex life.
2 to 3 times a week consistently is fine for 90% of men. The bar is literally in hell.
[–]operapeach -2 points-1 points0 points (10 children) | Copy Link
It’s pointless being in this sub anymore, honestly. Just laughable.
[–]LeMansManletRacerJesus was a manlet 1 point2 points3 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Women:
All this and you hoes can't even be loyal and you complain when your called out. Sit your ass down 😂
[–]operapeach 0 points1 point2 points (7 children) | Copy Link
🙄 go freak out somewhere else weirdo
[–]LeMansManletRacerJesus was a manlet 1 point2 points3 points (6 children) | Copy Link
As expected 🥱
[–]operapeach 0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
literally nothing you said applies to me, pls get help lol no one cares that one girl cheated on you one time
[–]LeMansManletRacerJesus was a manlet 1 point2 points3 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Never been cheated on. I have fucked two married women though
[–]operapeach 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
oh ok so ur just a regular old misogynist
pretty pathetic to keep fucking women if u categorically hate them don’t ya think
[–]LeMansManletRacerJesus was a manlet 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Hatefucks are the best
[–]Throw_AwayDiscussion 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh come on, don't be like that. It brings in good entertainment. Play along.
[–]mewbestpokeman 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
...unless the guy is 8+
[–]AnonJetlag 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m starting to think that this is true, a bit more everyday.
[–]Strange-Kitchen-6963 15 points16 points17 points (6 children) | Copy Link
He's an empath. Gave his woman freedom to go out with the girls. Not a controlling misognystic incel.
Someone was talking about missing out on young love, this is what young love is like lmao.
It's better to be thankful for the mistakes you didn't make. Fomo is weird that way. People make life shattering mistakes and it's best to learn from them.
If not getting played is what makes me a MISOGYniE then fine, but I'm protecting myself and my dog from the fickle desires of modern women.
[–]KonstantinMihailovic19[S] 7 points8 points9 points (4 children) | Copy Link
lmao😭😭😭
[–]Strange-Kitchen-6963 6 points7 points8 points (3 children) | Copy Link
What? I simply wish to keep my dog safe from unpredictable behavior is all I am not implying anything whatsoever. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[–]ropecellingropecelling 5 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
It do make sense if you consider how divorcing women like to kill pets
[–]Strange-Kitchen-6963 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Good luck finding information on that through most search engines though lol.
[–]AnonJetlag 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wait is this a real phenomenon? Can you elaborate??
[–]SheepyTLDRBlackPill 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
His woman is a slut plain and simple.
A girl can be your "dream" girl and still be a whore just cause you have no idea how she really is 🤣
[–]kukkle1111 15 points16 points17 points (1 child) | Copy Link
He did the right thing by going through her phone to confirm what he heard.
If every woman gave her boyfriend/husband the password to her phone and social media accounts today, 100% of relationships would end tomorrow.
[–]SheepyTLDRBlackPill 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's why woman dont and gaslight men lol
[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha. "It's just a phase". Then she'll have another phase and so on.
[–]Ok_Cycle225WhitePill 9 points10 points11 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I'll say it again.
She's not yours, it's just your turn.
[–]AnonJetlag 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I think a better one that I’ve recently started saying: she can never love you.
[–]LeMansManletRacerJesus was a manlet 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Very nice.
[–]bleachpilled 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Marriage is pointless in 2023. Don’t understand why men put themselves through it.
[–]LIGMAMALEINCBlackPill 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Just be first confirmed once again. If you're not virginmaxxing you're asking to get cucked.
[–]Peacesquad 5 points6 points7 points (9 children) | Copy Link
Women aren’t loyal creatures to begin with. Everything they do goes off emotion how it makes them feel and being validated and getting a better guy that makes them feel better
[–]Summeronmymountain -3 points-2 points-1 points (4 children) | Copy Link
So make your wife feel validated, loved and happy. Simple solutions.
[–]Peacesquad 5 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
It simple. You can’t make woman happy longterm. And being married isn’t that smart in todays world
[–]Summeronmymountain 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
In successful marriages that's exactly what they do. The husband and wife make each other the priority. It's not about being happy 24/7. Life is about pushing through the unhappy times. When you're married you push through together, and you make sure to do something every day that reminds your partner that they are loved and valued.
[–]Peacesquad 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds cute lol
[–]AnonJetlag 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ask every man who visits this sub and he will have a story about how he gave a woman the world and she either cheated or left him.
It’s either that women are unaware of their own desires and impulses; or, they’re lying about it. And I’m not sure which is worse.
The red pill exists for a reason
[+]ezbyte -7 points-6 points-5 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Men are only as loyal as their options honey.
[–]Peacesquad 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Sexual options. Men are far more loyal and EASIER TO SATISFY than women. Let’s keep it a Buck
[–]Purple-Following-422 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why should men be loyal to a deprecating asset?
[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And everything I said is true
[–]SoulBadguy0408 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I really don't believe in marriage, and it'd take a lot for me to even consider it
[–]No_Marzipan7414 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Lel this is copypasta but funny. Men in relationships are getting a lot more sex than randos trolling for girls in public and OLD
[–]KonstantinMihailovic19[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
are you sure?
[–]Sure-Vermicelli4369 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This ends up happening in every man's relationship it seems
[–]SheepyTLDRBlackPill 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Men need too realize women are not sugar and spice and everything nice.
They are just people imperfect and shitty like every other human being.
[+]AnyIntroduction3288 -13 points-12 points-11 points (29 children) | Copy Link
Why do men always pick these conniving cheating women when there are plenty of nice girls? It sounds like he just wanted a Stacy and got shocked when Stacy acted like a Stacy.
[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 8 points9 points10 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I get that youre trying to swap the roles but this made no sense. Beautiful women are less likely to do this because they can already get into a ltr with Chad. Stacies generally don't cheat as much because they don't need to.
Its the more normal looking girls who will risk their relationships, engagements and living arrangements for a night with Chad.
[–]ezbyte 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s more about knowing your self worth. A true dime will be less likely to cheat because she knows she can pull top tier men. She won’t even settle for less. So once she finds what she’s looking for she’s content. Average women have a harder time really understanding if they are dating up or down. They end up cheating because they settled and now they’re unsure if they could do any better.
[–]AnyIntroduction3288 -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure, Jan.
Furthermore he probably saw red flags and chose to ignore them for Stacy.
[–]StockHamster12WhitePill 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Based
[–]ropecellingropecelling 5 points6 points7 points (5 children) | Copy Link
how do you know it's stacy
[–]AnyIntroduction3288 -2 points-1 points0 points (4 children) | Copy Link
I guarantee that he saw red flags and chose to ignore them.
[–]ropecellingropecelling 1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
you did not answer
[–]AnyIntroduction3288 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Men don’t put up with bad behavior from unattractive women.
[–]ezbyte -2 points-1 points0 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I would love to see the men here dispute this. Men will excuse all type of behavior and make a million concessions if they believe they’re dating “up” in looks.
[–]Purple-Following-422 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Men date who they can, not who they want. He didn't choose her genius.
[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point2 points (17 children) | Copy Link
You're usually a decent poster on this subreddit but this is just low grade.
[–]AnyIntroduction3288 0 points1 point2 points (14 children) | Copy Link
No it’s not. It’s how men speak about women with the genders flipped. If you think it’s low, consider calling out the plethora of men who say the same thing loudly and repeatedly any time a woman has a bad relationship. “She should have picked better, she rejected nice guys like me!!!”
[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 1 point2 points3 points (13 children) | Copy Link
This is for women who ignore obvious red flags like a guy who's been to prison or has multiple baby mamas
[–]AnyIntroduction3288 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
There are probably a billion red flags this dude ignored. Don’t pretend otherwise.
[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
🤣Like what? You literally know nothing about him or her. You're just assuming this to justify blaming him for bring cheated on.
[–]AnyIntroduction3288 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
All this talk about accountability but then when it’s time to hold men accountable suddenly it’s offensive.
If my boyfriend had a cousin that he was texting every day for 2 years I would ask to meet this cousin. Or at least FaceTime him or follow him on social media. If he gets weird about it then I know he’s hiding something and is shady. This isn’t rocket science.
[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe he did but then again it's a cousin and not a sister or a brother. And I don't think they met as frequently as you think. Also, she wasn't seeing him during the entire relationship, she linked back up with him and then started seeing him sexually
[–]AnyIntroduction3288 0 points1 point2 points (8 children) | Copy Link
For example: why is he cool with her regularly texting and hanging out with a COUSIN (not even a random female friend) for
#TWO YEARS
On a daily, consistent basis?
Not once did he ask to meet this cousin, check to see who she was, or FaceTime her? IN TWO YEARS.
[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 1 point2 points3 points (7 children) | Copy Link
🤣It's literally a family member. If he stopped her from seeing her family, most women would say he was controlling.
Maybe he did but when someone is out with what you assume is actually a family member you tend to lower your defenses. If you're saying he was too trusting of her, then I would agree but that still doesn't give someone the right to cheat on their spouse.
[–]AnyIntroduction3288 0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
I didn’t say STOP from seeing a family member. I said ask to be introduced, follow on social media, etc. That isn’t being distrusting.
[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Maybe he did and they never got around to it but why are we blaming a man for never meeting a woman supposed cousin
[–]AnyIntroduction3288 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Why do men blame women for being hurt or cheated on?
[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Women only get blamed when they pick men woth terrible traits.
[–]AnyIntroduction3288 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Plus it’s pretty rich if you to call me “low grade” when you literally go on “where are all the good men” and seethe that women didn’t pick better men. Don’t whine when the genders are flipped.
[–]Wide-Illustrator2906 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I never said you were low grade, I said your comment was . Your usually a pretty decent poster and I don't seethe at the women on “where are all the good men”, I laugh at them. Just like I laugh at the men at NOTHOWGORKSWORK or any subreddit where someone is acting like an idiot.
[–]Sure-Vermicelli4369 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn, hit us with the "I know you are but what am I" 😭
[–]InjectAdrenochrome 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Pretty common situation. Seems like most posts on survivinginfidelity. Anyways he should read the book Leave a Cheater, Gain a Life by ChumpLady. Pretty good read
[–]LeMansManletRacerJesus was a manlet 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, because women.
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Bullet Dodged
in the nick of time!
There should be a Neo Awards for this shit.
[–]EviessVeralan 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you not know what the word marriage means? The fact that she was a girlfriend means they werent married.