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I made a custom triggered emoji using the first face, gonna make a new using the second face but I have no idea what to call that emotion, is it disillusioned or happy rage? I just can’t understand it!
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Tbf, this is entirely debatable and debated nowadays. Not all MGTOW are conservatives, nor pro-life.
Everyone would agree it's better not to get to that point if you can prevent it though, but let's not forget there are unexpected circumstances. Sperm-jacking, being drugged and/or raped. Men have no rights in such cases really.
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So when you cut your finger you murder millions of humans? Those cells in your body are alive and have human DNA so they fit your criteria.
Or, if you want to argue your own DNA is exempt for some reason: when you bruise someone you commit mass murder? Or when you damage cells in transplants/infusions?
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That was not part of the claim OP made. I quoted exactly what he said, and why it's flawed thinking by itself.
By saying this you implicitly admit it is not a human yet, it just has potential to be.
The potential argument is also not as clear cut as people think. Sperm and egg cells also "have potential" like that. Also stem cells, which all of us have, do have the ability/potential to do just so.
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You have not defined what makes it human. Your previous attempt to do so didn't quite get it right either, so I get the feeling you yourself can't really define it well.
Where does this begin? At conception? Why, because you said so? If not, when? When the sperm and egg are produced? When the parents are born?
You're just making a claim without anything else. I can make the opposite and we'd both just be throwing claims at each other with no reasoning or point.
I could say the same about me pointing out the ridiculousness of your previous statement. Again, this "I don't care I got the facts" approach gets neither of us anywhere, you must realize.
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Come on . Are you advocating for abstinence? 99% chance not to get pregnant if sex is done right. 100% with vasectomy. I play those odds. Got two abortions under my belt at 41. Vasectomy on Its way. I do not ever think about those foetuses. Who cares. Children die every day by the thousands. These are cells that where deactivated and removed. Big deal. Save real living breathing children if you care about babies.
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Who said anything about school shootings. I'm not saying a few children die every day, I am saying thousands upon untold thousands do. Your sense of scale is miserable. Go ahead and have 3 kids. Save the world dude. You got this.
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I agree that abstinence is the way to go in your case.
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I'm not here to change your mind on this issue but do you see the issue with your statement? You are advocating terminating a life out of convenience, which is morally despicable. This is what the meme references, the hypocrisy.
Cheers mate
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Could not agree more with you. Life happens and stops everywhere. We're not special. No point ruining our lives for the "sacredness of life". That is a moral construct. It is meaningless.
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