Defining Brocialist, Leftists' New Feminist Portmanbro : A neologism meant to shame men on the left(socialist) for not being pro feminists.

SwanOfAvon22 · 2014-01-17T19:09:19+00:00

My god, I am continually astounded at the cognitive dissonance.

“Brocialists,” she explains, are “guys who are so enamored of their own radicalness or progressiveness or whateverness that they are convinced they can do no wrong.”

Hmm: 95% of the "socialists" I've met are "so enamored of their own radicalness or progressiveness or whateverness that they are convinced they can do no wrong." And probably 99.5% of the feminists...

Nomenimion · 2014-01-17T17:44:08+00:00

A 'brocialist' is a socialist who recognizes and acknowledges that the world doesn't revolve around coddled, entitled white women and their infinitely petty grievances.

For example, homelessness might be a more important issue than Dominique Strauss-Khan, who incidentally was falsely accused.

It's also interesting that the US was far more worker-friendly when men had a respected role in society. Although people tend to think of the 1950's as a reactionary's wet dream, we were far more liberal then, with higher top bracket tax rates, stronger unions, etc.

If you wanted to drive a wedge through the lower and middle classes, it would be hard to devise a more effective one than Wonder Bread victim feminism.

2014-01-17T19:14:01+00:00

Egalitarian market brocialist manarchist checking in, and though I didn't know I've had that specific description until now, certain feminists in the libertarian-left sphere (Cathy Reisenwitz, Charles Johnson, and to a lesser extent Rod Long) have certainly given me the impression of being one.

Andrew9623 · 2014-01-17T17:54:57+00:00

Haha. Guess I'm a "brocialist" then. Feminists are getting pretty ridiculous with the name calling.

double-happiness · 2014-01-17T20:38:15+00:00

Social class > gender.

Harriet Harman: Class holds you back more than gender

giegerwasright · 2014-01-17T19:06:35+00:00

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/10/14/what-do-terms-like-bro-and-brogrammer-really-mean/

As Ann Friedman reveals, feminists can’t just say straight white men when they mean straight white men because it’s too “politically charged”. In other words, if feminists talk about straight white men, it’s obvious that feminists just hate straight white men. Instead, feminists are now using the term “bro” to make people think they’re only talking about a frat guy subset of straight white men when feminists are talking about all straight white men. It’s a trick by feminists to avoid criticism because most people aren’t going to defend stereotypical frat guy behavior whereas they might have a problem with blanket attacks on straight white men.

Vandredd · 2014-01-17T21:25:12+00:00

/r/socialism might be the worst feminist sub on this entire site. They banned many of the truly insane people but many still frequent it. Their ideology is simple, Socialism which is apparently no longer an economic theory is IMPOSSIBLE without Tumblr like feminism privilege theory.

ThePigmanAgain · 2014-01-18T00:08:57+00:00

"The brocialist instructs her that she is distracted from the paramount issue, namely class."

In other words, unlike feminists, brocialists are real socialists, not a bunch of middle class white women whining that they have it bad. Just a predictable attempt to turn socialism into another arm of the white female privilege movement.

soulwomble · 2014-01-17T18:44:17+00:00

It would be cool if socialist MRA's were to reclaim that word and use it as a label to proudly label themselves with.

mcmur · 2014-01-17T18:26:10+00:00

Yeah that's pretty much me in a nutshell.

Brocialist through and through. Sticking up for the broletariat.

johnmarkley · 2014-01-18T01:18:37+00:00

I'm getting really damn sick of feminists taking a word that many men use to express familiarity or affection towards other men and using it as a slur.

SweetiePieJonas · 2014-01-18T01:27:18+00:00

What pisses me off the most about these people appending "bro" to everything is how they're using it to denigrate brotherhood and male camaraderie. Men must not be allowed to feel brotherly towards one another; they must be set against one another in competition to make them easier to exploit.

SweetiePieJonas · 2014-01-18T08:11:26+00:00

Yet another example of feminism attempting to colonize existing movements and poison them with their toxic bullshit. YAWN.

I live about a half hour away from the site of one of the most violent labor struggles in history, where exactly zero women shed blood for workers' rights.

JakeDDrake · 2014-01-17T18:59:33+00:00

“Brocialists,” she explains, are “guys who are so enamored of their own radicalness or progressiveness or whateverness that they are convinced they can do no wrong.”

So what do we call the female version, which nobody denies exists?

I guess we could call them... SocialSISts? FeMarxists? Something along those lines, I guess.

kragshot · 2014-01-17T23:28:47+00:00

Using logic and established language is so hard, feminists continue to make up terms to define their own reality.

This is like 1984 in reverse, utterly idiotic. Using all of these nonsensical terms that are meant to exclude others from their discussions, which make no sense and have zero logical content.

It's hard to get called out for being an idiot when you don't speak the standard language.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2014-01-18T07:43:09+00:00

So a "Brocialist" is anyone that sees class as more fundamental than sex?

You MUST support intersectionality and refuse to see any form of discrimination as a mere epiphenomenon of the other in order to be a "good" leftist then?

By this logic...

Feminists who reduce homophobia to misogyny are being anti-gay (if reducing sex to class is anti-woman, reducing homophobia to sex is anti-gay)
Classical Marxism is "Brocialism" as are Marxist feminists like Caitlin Moran

This term is just a feminist attempt to control the entire left. Its colonization. Its Trotskyite entryism. Its an attempt to essentially bury any form of leftism that isn't today's postmodern-intersectional-kyriarchical-progressive-whatever-they-call-it-now.

I am not on the left, but leftists should be outraged at this.

Thankfully, there are plenty of different varieties of leftism which all have academic resources and that kind of thing, so there will be plenty of resistance to this.

MisterDamage · 2014-01-17T22:07:36+00:00

Is the linked site some sort of variant on the onion?

Pornography_saves_li · 2014-01-18T01:36:02+00:00

Try as they might, these ninnies will never be able to come up with a good shiv like Roissy, for example. The Manosphere is rich with descriptive slang and colourful turns of phrase. The Pajamaboys and Feminists desperately want to look halfway as cool as we do, thus the weak ass attempts at catchy descriptive terms.

There is a reason Red Pill concepts are piercing the veil, and it has nothing to do with logical presentation of facts. We're just usually a more informative and entertaining read. And people like that. So they keep coming back.

We grow. They die.

Therefore, take heart in the lameness of the word, it's just a mile marker on Feminism's personal Highway to Hell.

leva549 · 2014-01-18T03:05:28+00:00

Personally I prefer 'brogressive'.

whiteout69 · 2014-01-18T04:44:01+00:00

I haven't yet read the whole article, but as a libertarian-socialist MRA, I'd like to point out that we do exist

Bartab · 2014-01-17T20:28:16+00:00

How could you get a term than is more shaming than socialist? Really, if somebody called me that I'd have to sit down and figure out if I actually fell to such a disgusting level.

Title	Defining Brocialist, Leftists' New Feminist Portmanbro : A neologism meant to shame men on the left(socialist) for not being pro feminists.
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