Hypergamy, the Myth of Female Monogamy and Personal Responsibility in the Age of Feminism

Il128 · 2010-11-30T20:22:04+00:00

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evileddy · 2010-11-30T20:36:15+00:00

Women’s complaints about double standards refer only to the few which seem to favor men. They unhesitatingly take advantage of those which favor themselves. Wives in modern, two-income marriages, for example, typically assume that “what I earn is mine; what he earns is ours.” Young women insist on their “independence,” but assume they are entitled to male protection should things get sticky.

This.

It's what I observe daily.

2010-11-30T18:42:25+00:00

Great article

thetrollking · 2010-11-30T17:03:43+00:00

I read this article a while ago and it really hit the nail on the head.

Feminism is about re-establishing paleolithic-mating habits.

Small groups of older dominant males have a large harem of women while the large majority of men have no sexual partner.

The sad thing is I don’t see anyway of reversing this trend. Women are (and always have been) the sexual gate keepers. That’s why the patriarchy is such a joke. Women have always controlled sex.

the modern woman clearly wants the benefits of a traditional marriage, but is unwilling to pay the costs; she wants a man to marry her without her having to marry the man. It is the eternal dream of irresponsible freedom: In the feminist formulation, freedom for women, responsibility for men.

thetrollking · 2010-11-30T18:26:50+00:00

equal rights does not mean men have the right to get laid. a lot will not. this can be a pretty profound realization for men who can be getting a pretty crappy deal.

truthiness79 · 2010-12-01T04:44:04+00:00

FTA:

Women’s complaints about double standards refer only to the few which seem to favor men. They unhesitatingly take advantage of those which favor themselves. Wives in modern, two-income marriages, for example, typically assume that “what I earn is mine; what he earns is ours.” Young women insist on their “independence,” but assume they are entitled to male protection should things get sticky.

I never heard of this in mine, or any other marriage.

But the ultimate expression of modern female hypocrisy is the assertion of a right to adultery for women only.

I also never heard of this before. Where was this guy raised? A Hippie nudist colony? No guy or girl that I know would tolerate their significant others cheating.

This view is clearly implied in much contemporary self-help literature aimed at women. Titles like Get Rid of Him and Ditch That Jerk are found side-by-side Men Who Can’t Love: How to Spot a Commitmentphobic Man.

Talking about selective examples. There are also books urging women to be obedient housewives, but those are not the norm either. Little that I know about crap that Oprah recommends tells me that women read about social injustice, personal struggle, etc. And not how to cheat and castrate their husbands.

2010-11-30T18:13:19+00:00

"In the past I have made the case that feminism seeks to eliminate double standards which are perceived to favor men, yet gladly perpetuate those serve the interests of women."

Right off the bat, the author has eloquently distilled probably the largest theme of this subreddit.

Also this is amazing: "Feminism is a movement that thrives on its own failures; hence, it is very difficult to reverse."

demiurgency · 2010-11-30T23:23:35+00:00

That was the best article I've read in a long time. I was expecting from the title a one-sided, hyperbolic rant. Instead it is long, in-depth, well tempered, and articulately states views that I wish I had the words to state myself.

stemgang · 2010-11-30T19:30:03+00:00

I think its about time Men Everywhere in North America started to have this discussion in a serious and responsible format. Where to begin?

thetrollking · 2010-11-30T16:39:11+00:00

Full of truth. All men should read this. Forward it to younger men, your brothers, cousins, friends etc

truthiness79 · 2010-12-01T08:42:34+00:00

i think this is sort of eye-opening in the sense that i dont remember ever hearing of the female equivalent of polygamy. its just men are horndogs and women sadly have to deal with it. now it sort of all makes sense. although in a way, its kind of not fair for men. look at it this way, a woman knows when a man has settled down when he has stopped dating multiple women and is only with one woman. he has effectively gone from polygamy to monogamy. on the other hand, men never know if their relationship is based on hypergamy or monogamy. she could be with him because she loves him, or only because hes the "alpha dog", and that when he no longer is an alpha dog in her eyes, shell go find someone who is.

Realworld · 2010-12-01T04:19:58+00:00

Good news - Bad news:

Good news is this article, while well thought-out, is incorrect. It's easy to find attractive women wanting straight-forward intimate relationships. There's a surplus of them. There are more good-looking, fit, healthy, personable, and available women than there are male counterparts.

Bad news is the 'male counterparts' qualifier. You need to put some effort into it. Male or female the same things attract partners. Clean yourself up and get your body thin and fit, wear reasonable-looking clothes, get some outside activities. Relax and chat with people.

Sound like the type of person you'd want to meet? It works both ways.

2010-12-01T04:25:30+00:00

All arguments which try to explain complex human behavior in terms of evolution and natural selection are pointless and ultimately stupid. Anyone can thing of a plausible argument based on evolution and none of them can be experimentally proven, so people who waste time with such nonsense are doomed to forever argue their theories with like minded idiots on the Internet.

For one, people are not baboons. Women are much weaker than men, especially when compared to other animals. Also, human children take well over a decade to reach sexual maturity, and even more to reach independence. And finally, for the last ten millennia or so, farming was a predominant means of production of food for most of humanity.

It is my stupid evolutionary argument that above two facts have made women into somewhat of a personal property of men over the thousands of years. Only way for a woman to pass on her genes would be to find a guy capable of supporting her and her children. Once she finds that guy, she is stuck with him for ever because historically women could not support themselves and no man would want a woman that has been with another.

Fear of having another man sneak a seed into the woman you are supporting has created a demand for women who advertise their loyalty and chastity. Men have also created dreadful punishments for women that have unauthorized sex either before marriage or while cheating on their husband.

2010-11-30T23:21:17+00:00

Devlin is great...heard about him on the Roissy's blog first though.

Title	Hypergamy, the Myth of Female Monogamy and Personal Responsibility in the Age of Feminism
Author	thetrollking
Upvotes	56
Comments	96
Date	November 30, 2010 3:52 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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