Be The Villain

rpujoe · 2024-05-29T17:49:40+00:00

It's not about being villainous, but rather a philosophical mental shift to get what you want out of this life.

The world will not hand you what you want on a silver platter and that you're going to have to go out there and take it. Often that means taking it (or her) from someone else. You must give yourself permission and not be afraid of being the bad guy in someone else's story.

LatentShadow · 2024-05-28T19:08:25+00:00

There are 2 ways to think of this

She would cheat anyway. She is responsible for her cheating, not the guy who seduced her. If she is going to cheat anyway, why not get your cock wet.
You became the guy you despised. It takes two to tango and you were the second person. If you had rejected her, perhaps she could have a change of heart. At a personal level, you ,at worst destroyed a relationship and at best, encouraged cheating.

The world is gray however, you decide which shade of grey will your world be.

thetonybvd · 2024-05-28T19:23:10+00:00

After seeing that by your own eyes, you never trust women ever again, they lie so easily and it's convincing

VasiliyZaitzev · 2024-05-29T03:41:16+00:00

I dunno. I like my life un-complicated. It's not up to me to police someone else's marriage, but I also don't want to catch 2 in the chest because some disgruntled hubby has pathological scarcity mentality.

Back in my Dirty 30s I used to get a lot of NSA offers from married women, usually taking the form of "Come over and I will cook you dinner", with either an explicit, or heavily implied assertion that the young lady in question would be having the tube steak for dessert.

I passed on them because, well, see above about uncomplicated. I don't want to step off the wrong curb, either.

That said, I don't have any sympathy for Timmy Halfatwink who can't control his bitch, or Ollie the Orbiter who freezes in the clutch. Orbiters can't get laid - they just go in circles - and then get mad when I swoop in and isolate, escalate and then penetrate "his" woman. Sorry, but to the victor goes the spoils.

I would sometimes refer to one of my slave girls as "Snow White and the Seven Orbiters", because she was apparently the 'beautiful but approachable' girl for them. I would give them nicknames. She was a doctor so she would have to keep her phone on to receive texts. One guy would write her poetry, which I would grade and tell her to give him notes, like "More Dylan Thomas" or "Less Lord Byron" which he would dutifully try to implement.

One ever so gently suggested tying her up and I had her reply smth like "How DARE you think that of me?!" Too delish. Her: "I should introduce you to him as 'this is the guy who REALLY gets to tie me up!'" Evidently my rather wicked sense of humor is catchy. /heh

Anyway, do what's right for you.

Further Reading

Applied Red Pill: Why You Never Want To Be An Orbiter

The Importance of Implementing Game

WishMeLuck77 · 2024-05-28T18:47:38+00:00

Being on the fun side of adultery and fucking chicks who are in relationships, kinda makes you think, doesn’t it? She can convince herself afterwards that she’s a good person, and i don’t think it’s lying, she honestly believes the lie which makes it sound real. That self delusion is the best tool to manipulate everyone around them.

hugaddiction · 2024-05-28T21:07:05+00:00

I don’t want to live in a culture where monogamy means nothing. If women can’t be trusted to uphold their side of the bargain then it’s up to men to do their best not to be dragged in to this kind of behavior by women.

Vermillion-Rx · 2024-05-28T19:31:03+00:00

Consider, alternatively being the antihero, rather than the villain (which has similarities to the villain trait without nearly as many drawbacks as being the villain (i.e. consequences, etc.)

Used ChatGPT to summarize the difference between the two:

Villain

Villains are central to storytelling as the primary antagonists, embodying evil and opposing the protagonist. They create conflict and tension, driving the narrative forward. Typically, villains engage in morally reprehensible actions driven by motivations such as personal gain, power, or revenge. Their traits often include cruelty, manipulation, and a lack of empathy, which underline their destructive goals. While some villains have complex backstories that add depth to their character, their primary role remains to challenge the protagonist. Ultimately, villains usually meet their defeat or demise, providing a moral resolution to the story's conflict.

Antihero

Antiheroes, on the other hand, are protagonists or key characters who lack traditional heroic qualities. They operate in a morally gray area, with a blend of good and bad traits, and often engage in actions that are ethically ambiguous. Their motivations are complex and personal, such as seeking justice, revenge, or personal fulfillment, but their methods can be unconventional or morally dubious. Antiheroes typically display flaws like cynicism or selfishness, yet they may also show bravery and commitment. Their narrative role is to offer a nuanced perspective on morality and heroism, challenging conventional notions of right and wrong. The arcs of antiheroes are varied, often involving redemption, deeper moral ambiguity, or achieving their goals at a significant personal cost, making their stories rich and multifaceted.

RPUjoe please unsticky this comment if you don't want it to be the stickied comment. I just wanted to leave an alternative to the villain as the post rebuttal (sexual strategy is amoral, there are pros and cons to every amoral sexual decision) but, yes, being the villain (or least having villain traits) is a winning strategy for a variety of reasons, albeit it has more drawbacks imo that simply being the antihero

Woke_Wacker · 2024-05-28T20:55:53+00:00

It's not about being the villain it's about being human. Sexual attraction, confidence, money, and status, among other things, factor into your chances of having a relationship, sexual or otherwise. However, the decision to knowingly sleep with someone's partner is open to perception. Some would call it villanous. I would call it trashy and low status. Sleeping with a degenerate who likely has no respect for anyone. How repugnant.

Agitated-Mouse-3810 · 2024-05-29T06:29:05+00:00

When you are present when the nervous boyfriend is blowing up her phone, when she's sending the affirming texts of love with one hand while her other hand is stroking your junk

After experiencing this you can never trust women again. After seeing how easily they lie and how they convince themselves they're doing nothing wrong.

ntkstudy44 · 2024-05-28T20:45:09+00:00

This post is just so wack. I'm all about trp but I think part of being a truly confident individual is being able to be proud of the individual you are and your choices.

Shit I could steal from the grocery store everyday and not get caught but I choose not to because I don't want to make decisions that jeopardize my character and I ain't that desperate for food.

There are more important things in life than getting laid my guy.

letsgetwizzyy · 2024-05-28T19:33:29+00:00

It's just a reality we as men have to accept and use to our advantage. The best way to begin behaving like a villain is by making yourself your own mental point of origin, and realizing that if she is going to cheat on her boyfriend with you then she would cheat on him with another guy so it may as well be you

omega_dawg93 · 2024-05-29T04:20:55+00:00

i agree with OP 100%.

be the villain bc these broads ain't loyal.

_do_not_read_this_ · 2024-05-28T19:15:45+00:00

I'm a serial monogamist myself, spinning plates just taking too much time and energy when I tried it out a few years ago, but back before my current LTR I dated some "pre-divorced" women.

That didn't bother me because their relationships were over already.

Be the "rebound guy" for them for a few months, but always be clear that they're not supposed to fall in love with you, because they always do.

Gandalf32 · 2024-05-29T17:57:14+00:00

She was never yours, it was just your turn.

Gandalf32 · 2024-05-29T18:06:59+00:00

Also, I've been the guy on both sides. I will tell you, like you said, after seeing it firsthand, knowing what women are capable of, yeah, I won't ever really trust them enough again. Reason being is, they can get away with it for so long, then hit the wall, and even after they hit the wall, some old simp will still go for it. In essence, we are kinda our own worst enemy with simps being allowed to suck air.

Nerd_IRL99 · 2024-05-31T21:52:31+00:00

My 2 cents: having sex with women in relationship is the most beta thing you can do. There are plenty of single women out there, why not choose them?

NewCommonSensei · 2024-05-28T20:45:10+00:00

I would be the villain but I don’t want karma to bite me in the ass. I won’t knowingly seduce a married woman. but kudos to you on being the villain.

redhawkes · 2024-05-29T09:44:02+00:00

Lmaoo so many moralizing spergs in here. Moral superiority means jack shit in the sexual market.

Similar shit happened to me last month when I was in Germany. Hooked up with a 26yo chick in the club, then we went to my place. While I was railing her, her phone starts to ring, she took it and put the ringer off. After a while, it started to ring again..she answered and told the guy she's on her way home and not to worry.

Turns out it was her husband, and they were married for 2 years. Then the hamster starts to spin how she's bored and he's not giving her enough attention bla bla..didn't even saved her number. Instant ONS.

djdmaze · 2024-05-28T22:16:18+00:00

Reminds me of the time this chick introduced me to her husband as a distant cousin. They will say anything to get what they want. She loved giving head while being on the phone with him. Turned her on so much. They just get off on being naughty. Beautiful, strange creatures they are lol

Librathrow · 2024-05-29T08:58:42+00:00

This has been the story of my life as well. I would love to see more posts that focus on being the other guy here. Then, you're truly capitalising on hypergamy and applying trp. And you and I are just enjoying, ourselves living in reality.

I've been recently reading the books cheating: how to do it right - a guide for women and how to cheat: field notes from an adulteress. Both help me to understand more about becoming Jody.

If you equate those guides with being villaneous, then becoming the goddamn villian is exactly on point. Because she is searching for the baddest villian she can find that's as villaneous as she is herself (which is typically some asshole guy), to be the most depraved version of herself with him.

The question then, is do we we want to experience that depraved version of her for ourselves? If yes, there's no choice but to be the villian. Insert you're goddamn right meme

sebastianconcept · 2024-05-29T11:33:15+00:00

So you fancy facilitating destroying families? When she has a kid and you catalyze a divorce by alpha widowing her you’re that proud too? How your advice isn’t psychopathic?

OwnPreparation9164 · 2024-05-29T11:47:44+00:00

Or just love your life. They’re cheating regardless

imtranscending · 2024-06-04T02:14:27+00:00

Good points, but I personally wouldn't knowingly sleep with married women.

ChefBoyarlifts · 2024-05-28T23:51:09+00:00

or hear me out....find Christ and stop fucking over your fellow human being because you want to bust a nut. Just a thought. You justify it however you like. Karma does exist, you'll find that out eventually.

Vermillion-Rx · 2024-05-28T23:52:21+00:00

Oh man, Joe your post has been keeping me busy today!

Vermillion-Rx · 2024-05-29T06:48:14+00:00

Post ban counter: 11

Vermillion-Rx · 2024-05-28T18:45:38+00:00

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TrenWarrior · 2024-05-30T14:46:20+00:00

Be The Wise Psychopath.

louielouie222 · 2024-06-04T17:59:32+00:00

op why does your label say Vanguard?

Markio2631 · 2024-05-28T23:15:51+00:00

Here’s to hoping you lose your wiener in a tragic and painful accident. Cheers!

Lake_Silent · 2024-05-29T13:13:59+00:00

You're captain save-a-hoe. Her ex is the "villain" in the story after he finds out about the cheating and nukes the relationship. She's not yours, it's just your turn.

rushisgod · 2024-05-28T19:31:11+00:00

"Look at me, they cheated with me". Now proceed to receive fake internet points. Less, my friend, much less. You're not the Joker (or maybe you are)

rufufsuahwheh · 2024-05-29T02:47:54+00:00

All of you fuckers are missing the point, which is women are not princesses, they will cheat on their man and lie through their teeth to keep both their man and their “Jody”.

Be the villain means be the guy who women want to do this stuff with. Be the guy who inspires the most depraved sexual fantasies to come out.

Who gives a shit if it’s a humble brag I’m sure he worked hard to be the man he is today. The red pill is about being the best version in every aspect of your life and this post is an example of mastery with women.

Fire_Stoic14 · 2024-05-29T12:01:47+00:00

Reminds me of the Adam and Eve story where even though Adam worked hard in the garden, Eve still managed to fuck it all up being easily tempted by Satan’s words. You’re right, being the villain is so important to be in a man’s life; I would think not being a villain gets you killed in your relationships and in your career.

starboycurlZ · 2024-06-09T21:09:10+00:00

You’re so corny....

Deep down inside you is still that nice little man who resented girls who chose bad boys.

BigMention2380 · 2024-10-27T07:36:29+00:00

For real for real , it’s the god Damn truth. If you ever been fucked over the moral shit don’t matter . They don’t give a fuck about morals . They will make up a story after the fact . Yeah I haven’t owned being a villain. I’ll be the villain now . People will lie about anything

ChrisRockOnCrack · 2024-06-25T11:54:28+00:00

Absolute delusion. No noraml human being wants to be with a "villain" lol. Just be polite and act normal.

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Title	Be The Villain
Author	rpujoe
Upvotes	164
Comments	122
Date	May 28, 2024 6:11 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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