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Race and Attraction, 2009 – 2014

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Title Race and Attraction, 2009 – 2014
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Date September 11, 2014 12:47 AM UTC
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[–]farbenwvnder 21 points21 points21 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I really love OKCupid for their honesty with these reports

Black women really have it tough though.. Even their own men reject them to an extent. I wonder why black women seem to reject every other race

I'm also surprised that white women rate asien men that negatively... -12% is quite hefty compared to the other three

[–]javon1527 points28 points29 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

As a black man I have to say , Our women are just plain out of shape. Coupled with the fact that the "standard of beauty " is more of a European look makes things even harder. There are many mire factors but I'd rather not get into it.

I've had the LEAST success on OKC.

[–]anonlymouse4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Black women really have it tough though.. Even their own men reject them to an extent. I wonder why black women seem to reject every other race

Here's one take

[–]alpha_i8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know several black women in their late 20s/early 30s and from what they say, they're all looking for a unicorn: a black man with higher social status and education than they have, who will commit to an LTR. But many black men who fit this description, end up with white women or are just spinning plates.

Some black women feel pressure from their parents & grandparents to live up to the "Cosby Show" ideal. Marrying a white man would taint that ideal to an extent. Call it reverse racism, but it's still very present in 2014 in some families.

Of course, AFBB still applies when these women can't find their unicorn.

[–]CptDefB1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

From 2012, no less.

If it was from 2014, I'd basically assume she lurked here and skimmed for content like a bunch of other media outlets.

A shame that video didn't go viral on facebook.

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[–]CptDefB4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Indeed, I think it was RoK or Dalrock that did a write up about it. There are a couple blog posts that talk directly to that.

I find black culture to be... woefully oblivious to this. People can be certain the CIA was involved in the killing of black cultural leaders in the 60s (Panthers, MLK... respectful JFK mention) however, they'll say some flippant thing then run wildly in the direction the CIA et al want for the demographic.

Black culture as it is today is waaaaaay more profitable for white people and others than it would have been had black people treated their communities the same way 1st or 2nd gen Asians/Jews treat theirs.

All these rappers, talking about all their money... who's built up their shitty neighborhood? No one*? Letting it fall into disrepair while going on about the block, the streets, etc? Fuck them. They are, imo, the worst of all. Literally puppets to lead their people astray.

Sad shit, yo.

  • Some of them do invest in the people of their community. Trick Daddy comes to mind... but right now, he's the only one.

[–]Icecoffee9659 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not so surprising when most asian men are beta as all-get-out.

At least in Korea and China (where my parents are from), most kids are brainwashed to obey parents' most unreasonable demands.

1) Kids Studying up to 8-10 hrs a day, which isn't uncommon in these 2 nations (social retardation) 2) Parents have a large influence in who the son or daughter gets married with (again, social retardation) 3) Even as teens, extracurriculars are discouraged as they disrupt studying.

[–]Modified_Hackware 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you know of how that contrasts with Japanese men?

I always thought they came across as no nonsense workaholics that commanded at least respect in the household.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, as fathers. As sons? Probably not so much.

[–]abXcv2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In Japan, it's common to work a 60 hour week, and give all the money to your wife.

She takes care of all the bills and everything, and you ask for a weekly allowance from her.

It's a very weird system.

[–]Buchloe2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm a white male and have slept with three black chicks from okcupid. LTR with one now.

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[–]tallwheel10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I wonder why black women seem to reject every other race

I'll hazard a guess. This is probably gonna come out sounding racist one way or another, but I'll do it anyway.

Blacks of both sexes tend to be the most masculine of their sex. This means all races generally see black men as masculine and sexy, and all races generally see black women as masculine and unsexy. Furthermore, black women want men who are more masculine than themselves, and this can make it hard for them to be attracted to all but the most masculine men (usually black men).

[–]humankin2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Since we're conjecturing here, I'll add this: selective pressures applied to black slaves both during the voyage over and once here were selected for constitution and strength. Physical power was more useful to the people controlling who lives and who dies and, I assume, who breeds. So you'd expect blacks in America to be more masculine on average.

I don't know how intense this selective pressure was and I don't remember exactly how long it lasted. I do know that non-American blacks don't seem to be as masculine, at least to the American ideal.

[–]anonlymouse0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know how intense this selective pressure was and I don't remember exactly how long it lasted. I do know that non-American blacks don't seem to be as masculine, at least to the American ideal.

Yeah, the blacks I meet in Biel seem to almost be a different race except for coincidentally having the same skin colour. You've got petite black girls who have the same frame as Asians.

[–]bluedrygrass-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That theory is bullshit, and have success only for fictionary value. For instance, the time gap lasted too little to leave a significant evolutionary mark. According to science, at least.

The reason american blacks are so different from african blacks is that they're mixed. Many african american have up to 30% of chinese blood, wich is why they look orangeish or yellowish, and have the chinese eyelid. This is because at the slavery times chineses and blacks used to mix a lot.

[–]superyay3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The reason american blacks are so different from african blacks is that they're mixed. Many african american have up to 30% of chinese blood, wich is why they look orangeish or yellowish, and have the chinese eyelid. This is because at the slavery times chineses and blacks used to mix a lot.

...do you have a source for this? cause I smell bullshit.

[–]WonHungLo090 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I read that American Black folks all have some European DNA in them, but I've never heard of large numbers of them having Chinese ancestry. Maybe in places like San Francisco where they would have possibly intermingled but I don't remember there being many places during slavery days where slaves and Chinese would be near each other. I have also heard that bottleneck type events can rapidly cause significant evolutionary changes.

[–]farbenwvnder 3 points3 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

2014 says -12% for asisn men and -8% for black men.

The numbers do fluctuate quite a lot but overall I'd say most of them stayed nearly the same over the 5-6 years

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going out on a limb here, but perhaps due to the economy?

[–]anonlymouse0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you compare year by year stats it fluctuates, so we'd need a few more years of data to be clear exactly where it is.

[–]DownvoteDaemon25 points26 points27 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

For a black man like me I would have little success on okcupid which us dominated by white people. That is only because America is 63 percent white. When a white person is mostly attracted to white people it is not because they hate black people or are racist. The concept of homogeneity dictates that we are mostly attracted to those who are similar to us. This could be in race or socioeconomic status. As black men we have to find alternative ways to pick up woman. There are plenty of white woman who like black men but you have to find them. I found them in college.

[–]lonGterMgoalS6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only people I know who use online dating sites are white or Asian. If any of my Latino or Black friends are using it they're not talking about it. In fact the majority of them frown upon it. Especially Latinas. My wife (Latina) thinks it's dangerous and only for promiscuous women.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The same blog had an article in the past about people rated average and how if you're an outlier (i.e a borderline tattoo freak with tons of red flags, so for everyone rating you a 10, you get someone rating you a 4, average to 7) rated against an average person of similar averaged look ratings (i.e girl next door, frumpy, everyone rates as a 7), the outliers do better. Let that standard deviation work for you. Be the outlier!!

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is an important takeaway especially for ethnic guys: having a niche.

Of course there will be loads of people who will reject you for what you are, but others will appreciate you. Assuming both pools of women were exactly the same quality-wise, I'd rather be a 10 for 30% and a 0 for the rest, than being a 5 for everybody.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The concept of homogeneity dictates that we are mostly attracted to those who are similar to us.

There is another concept that proposes the exact opposite though. By mixing up the gene pool your offspring is less likely to have certain genetic defects and what not.

[–]DownvoteDaemon8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just meant that humans are real tribalistic in nature and we have always been mostly attracted to those who are similar to us.

[–]WonHungLo092 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The drive for homogeneity is usually stronger though, as logic dictates. It's necessary for things like group cohesion and trust among members of the same tribe. Just a little bit of mixing goes a long way.

[–]Genghis-Brah -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The concept of homogeneity dictates that we are mostly attracted to those who are similar to us. This could be in race or socioeconomic status.

Hell no, why do I like Latina women so much and I'm Asian. I really don't believe that people are attracted to those similar looking to them. They've been conditioned to like what the status quo should tell them to like. I remember the first chick I liked in grade school was black, I invited her to my grade 2 birthday party lmao. But society does not treat women of color on a pedestal like they do with white women

[–]Dick-Tracy 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So you're saying you disagree with those remarkably consistent statistics, then?

[–]Genghis-Brah -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well the average person is a phaggot. Consistently people are owned by consumerism of material objects. And going on dating sites to harpoon some whales is not a good reliable indicator of "race and attraction." You've got to question everything.

[–]Dick-Tracy 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck is a "phaggot"? If you wanna use a gay slur, go ahead and say faggot. The people who are going to be offended by the latter are going to be just as offended by the former, and everyone else just thinks you're a tool for spelling it that way.

[–]GhostInTheRedPill4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Consistently people are owned by consumerism of material objects. And going on dating sites to harpoon some whales is not a good reliable indicator of "race and attraction." You've got to question everything.

Was the following point. Why did you ignore that and focus on the spelling of phaggot/faggot?

[–]Genghis-Brah -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fa fa fa faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4

[–]AgentSmith271 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually, Asians and share a lot of genetic material with the native people of the Americas... Granted there is some European ancestry mixed in there, but current Latin Americans are closer to Asians than to European or African populations.

[–]DownvoteDaemon1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I really don't believe that people are attracted to those similar looking to them.

There are always acceptions to the rule of course I didn't mean it always works like that. There are many mixed couples. There are many white guys who date black women but overall white people still mate with MOSTLY white people. It's the same for every other race.

[+]bluedrygrass-8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is just a lame excuse. White peoples like white poeples because they have unique traits, both phisical and behavioural.

[–]DownvoteDaemon1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Could you expound on what you mean? I am just spouting what I learned in my psychology and sociology college days. There are probably hundreds of reasons white people are mostly attracted to white people but my point is that none of those reasons are because they are racist.

[–]gohammer311 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

As a black dude I can't even get eye contact from Asian chicks and they are so unenthusiastic and low energy when I approach, this explains my failures a bit.

[–]kratol 17 points17 points17 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

They will get so much shit that their family will probably disown them. It really isn't your fault.

Philippine and Japanese girls are an exception, and the Japanese don't move out of Japan much.

[–]anonlymouse1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I've got an Asian friend who only dates whites because she doesn't want to do what her parents want and date another Asian but doesn't want to completely enrage them by dating a black guy.

[–]sir_wankalot_here1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Blacks are portrayed as criminals and subhumans in most Asian movies. Not sure if it is still the case, but Japs used to release two versions of video games. The verison for the Jap market would have blacks as the criminals or bad guys.

[–]redpillhead1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude I wouldn't worry there are a lot of asian girls out there. I'm black as well and I love asian girls. Every girl I have dated has been asian, also most of the girls I hook up with are asian, and thats before I actually moved to Asia. I found my chances aren't as good as my super handsome white friends but I can still do pretty good. I think the most important thing is not taking the rejection too personally. If your a quality dude they'll be the one missing out.

[–]FaithfulJinn1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you full or mixed though? Honestly mixed guys got the advantage when it comes to dating, and well pretty much everything... Hate to admit it too cuz I'm black as night but being mixed makes things way easier in America.

[–]redpillhead0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah man I am super dark, and I have the phrase black people are scary no less then 10 times. Also being in Asia many people assume I'm African, and no one likes Africans. SO my game has to be even tighter.

[–]MasonJarTeaDrinker0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hottest chick I've ever fucked was an Asian chick that was into black dudes, I'm latino. This chick was top notch bro, you got a shot, she's Cambodian thought but still.

[–]redpillhead4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, as a black guy in Asia, I don't have much luck online. Although I have only really used tinder. I have had at least 10 asian girls tell me IRL that at first they were really scared of me and they only talked to me because they were afraid I would get upset if they didn't.

[–]Genghis-Brah 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All this pedastaling for white women. Man some people are dying to have them as a trophy wife. Fuck that. They created feminism or popularized it.

[–]dirtboxchampion2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are a lot of white women who aren't feminists

[–]argunta4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Trying not make this personal at all here, one thing remains constant throughout almost every single online dating study and what I see out in the real world: white women are the most loyal to their race. I just don't get why there is an uproar over white women race mixing when in the US, even in liberal places like San Francisco and New York City, you won't find many good looking white women dating or marrying minorities.

I would say that in the past few years, the amount of white women with minority couples have probably gone down. White men might have many reasons to dislike women of their own race but I am sure that we can all admit, White American women are hands down the most loyal to their race. You will rarely see a Heather Graham or Hayden Panetierre marrying or getting into an LTR with a non-White unless it is a rich black athlete.

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[–]FaithfulJinn1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

white women are the most loyal to their race.

This is true.

I don't know why white guys act like there's some ethnic boogeyman taking white women or that white women are flocking in droves to other races. They're not and they never have.

White women, as studies show time and time again, are the LEAST likely of to date outside of their own race.

[+]Genghis-Brah -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't believe you. In my high school, just last year to be more precise has a decent amount of white girls going interracial with brownies and darkies. They're probably the easiest to get. The most loyal? Man these bitches are not loyal. Yeah it's probably hard for a minority guy to get a white girl to be in a long term relationship. But if you look at it in a different perspective, it's not that bad of a deal. Dating more like monkey branching.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your high school isn't the entire country.

[–]HalfAsianBob 5 points5 points5 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm just going to kill myself.

[–]humankin6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Half asians can be really attractive. And if you're not, well, you can still get a 7 if you're awesome. Plus you'll be awesome.

Real talk: your baseline happiness level has little to do with your overall well-being. Practice happiness improvement and you'll be happier. Brood over what you lack and you'll be sadder.

I wonder why we don't teach this shit to kids. Too much competition with religion maybe?

[–]RedPillProphet1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was a beautifully positive yet realistic reply. I wish I had a friend like you.

[–]Icecoffee9652 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Asian women: +24% to asian men, according to the 2014 graph

That makes up for the negative percentages from other women.

Its funny how much they dislike black men... -27%. Crazy as hell.

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I would like to see a breakdown of Asian-American versus native Asians.

I think OKC has grown (I KNOW it has where I live in Korea) and that could account for the positive rating for Asian men BY Asian women.

Because I find it hard to believe that Asian American women have really jumped ~20% in 5 years regarding Asian men. I think the confounding factor here is a larger number of native Asian women participating.

This would also explain the large and huge drop towards Black men. An influx of native asian women (who are frightened of many black guys) would explain that as well. Unfortunately, the data don't break down along country lines.

That is unfortunate because the writer says how "you must expect that the dominant culture (white) will be the most attractive". Well the dominant culture in Asia is...Asians. So are these data ONLY for north america or global OKC?

[–]superyay0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good point, but if it's america only, I'm going to guess it's the rising popularity of k-pop and jeremy lin :D

[–]trplurker 4 points4 points4 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

People you gotta realize what they are profiling for, online dating is mostly women looking for beta bucks. So of course any demographic with a stereotype for not being beta bucks is going to meet with less success. Walk into a night club and look at the number of hot chicks with muscular black dudes vs muscular white dudes. Being white only helps attract women looking for "economic advantage", it's like having an ATM sign over your head.

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly why I avoid online dating like sexually transmitted infections. It is actually easier to get women in real life than online, and the online ones are likely to be the ones whose ride of the "carousel" has come to an end (time for $BB$).

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

online dating is mostly women looking for beta bucks

What? Most of the women I've met from okcupid have been looking for casual relationships or just sex.

I'm a clueless IDIOT and I still managed to get laid on there a handful of times.

[–]AssedM 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They have to say that because if they say they are looking for a serious relationship no one would response. They are just hoping they are good enough to trap you with their pussy as a last resort. Its their hail mary, they have no more options left. No girl really just wants casual sex with a bunch of strangers, and everyone feels like a failure the first time they sign up for online dating. Its a desperate act because they have nothing to bargain with anymore.

[–]humankin5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

White men are a status symbol for Asian women.

[–]RedSunBlue5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

People you gotta realize what they are profiling for, online dating is mostly women looking for beta bucks.

Then why are Asian men panned so hard? Asians are sterotypically the uberbetas.

[–]trplurker 0 points0 points0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Because asian's are not portrayed as super rich walking ATM's in the media like white dudes are. Also the category "asians" rarely distinguish's between East Asian's like Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, South East Asians like Filipino's, Malaysians, Vietnamese and South Asians like Indians, Pakistani's or any of the western Arabian countries. They are all lumped into one giant category even though they all have different stereotypes.

Finally it boils down to status, like everything else. She's still looking for her BB and will treat him like trash, but she wants a BB that will generate social approval. Showing off your white human ATM machine generates more status then showing off your Indian/Japanese/Korean/Pakistani human ATM machine. They all generate equal amounts of sandy vagina and monthly duty sex unlike that 6'2 200lb bald black dude in the club.

How do I know this, one of my best friends is a 6'2 bald black dude in his early 40's who happens to be married. Everywhere this guy goes girls fawn over him and practically try to suck his cock right then and there. And we happen to live / work in an East Asian country, very few white girls compared to the vast ocean of young asian chicks.

You guys need to seriously stop trying to understand things from a males point of view, it won't ever work and you'll get all sorts of contradictions.

[–]RedSunBlue4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

Because asian's are not portrayed as super rich walking ATM's in the media like white dudes are.

This is flat out wrong. You might want to read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_minority

[–]superyay0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Everywhere this guy goes girls fawn over him and practically try to suck his cock right then and there.

Lol these anecdotal "my friend" examples need to stop. So silly.

[–]wheyapartment4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"Being white only helps attract women looking for "economic advantage", it's like having an ATM sign over your head"

Talk about denial. People tend to be much more attracted to people who have the same race. Birds of a feather flock together

[–]Red_Pill_Theory-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's some truth in both ways of thinking. For instance, I've had a few girls sleep with me and later tell me that they would keep it a secret that they had slept with someone who wasn't white because they cared what their social group and family thinks.

So while they may be "more attracted" to their same race for an LTR, when it comes to just getting fucked, all bets are off.

[–]RedPillProphet-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Then what happened to me :( Despite trying my hardest I am simply much more attracted to other races than mine.

I think this thinking is a result of white men/women projecting their mentality to others. Sadly if you grew up in the west, you likely find white people more attractive than any other race including your own. All the white-men-loving easy asian and indian sluts are living proof of this.

[–]hostileguy0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No surprise that black women are rated the lowest.

[–]MasonJarTeaDrinker0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless all you're doing is online dating then this shit doesn't matter. If you're taking care of yourself, working on getting that paper and holding frame, you're going to have no problem regardless of what race you are.

[–]zortec-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Man it sucks to see how black women rate white men. The first girl I dated was a mixed girl and since that I can't go back. I'm a decently good looking guy, yet walking around my college campus of 30k+ students, I never get even a glance from black girls.

[–]FaithfulJinn4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How can any white male complain about these results? White men had no negative results in this study.

The worst results you had were a 0% from black women. 0% is fucking NEUTRAL.

White guys have it made when it comes to the pure racial advantage. Absolutely made.

Black and asian guys however get the shit end of the stick from pretty much every race of women outside their own.

[–]zortec0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Black women rating white men: 2012 = -5%, 2013 = -4%, 2014 = -6%

[–]FaithfulJinn1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's for the other website. On okcupid white guys literally don't have a single negative score.

[–]Red_Pill_Theory-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish they had data for mixed race individuals. It would be interesting. As a mixed race male, my experience on OKcupid has been pretty good. Always had plenty of interest from women. Particularly white women, though. And usually only for sex.

[–]FaithfulJinn-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just another study confirming that white guys have the most racial advantage of any other race.

Look at the okcupid scores. White guys don't have a single negative score in the past or now. Even black women were neutral at 0%.

[+]argunta-8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link

So one thing still remains the same, White women just flat out dislike minorities. You even notice it in interracial relationships, go to any upper middle class or well off area and you will find that it is white guys dating girls of all races while white women exclusively stay with white men. What bothers me about this is that OkCupid is full of the "liberal" and yuppie white girls who will swear that they aren't racist yet avoid even touching a minority. I don't have a problem with white women preferring white men, that is how it SHOULD be but I am bothered by these white girls that claim to be social justice warriors but in reality are no different than some redneck in the Appalachian when it comes to how they view race.

Just look around, most interracial couples fit this category:

  1. White men with any race of women (usually asian or latina)
  2. Minorities dating each other

White women that look good RARELY go interracial here in the USA and when they do it is with a black guy. You never see an attractive white woman with a brown latino, an asian, or an indian.

What is shown by that data is the wet dream of every white supremacist coming true. White women are waking up and getting a sense of White Nationalism to them but they are just subtle about it.

Now me, I am an indian guy, I would love to consistently date girls that are white throughout my life but where the racial climate is heading I am thinking a decade from now you will start to see more and more white women refusing to go interracial. American society has woken up and realized that it is the time protect white women from minorities and whatever might have happened has caused young white girls throughout the country to refuse the idea of going interracial. If you wanted to get your trophy blonde girlfriend as a minority, seems like you missed your boat years ago. White women have awakened and become aware of what is going on, you can tell that a large number of them want nothing to do with the white race decreasing in number. This is in many ways a victory for White nationalists throughout the country.

[–]vaker[S] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I am bothered by these white girls that claim to be social justice warriors

Women lie? I'm shocked, shocked to hear that!

I am an indian guy, I would love to consistently date girls that are white

Why not indian if I may ask?

[–]argunta1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Indian American girls are much worse than the stuff people accuse white american girls of and I can't really relate to indian girls from india because I was born in the USA. TBH, I have always had a thing for white girls and I don't even know why.

[–]CptDefB6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reverse them. Answers itself.

I have always had a thing for white girls...

...because I was born in the USA.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

A lot of the American Indian girls i've met have struggled with their racial identity. I felt like they were really insecure about themselves and their bodies. Also they seem to exclusively mess around with white guys before settling down with a white or Indian guy. I've never met an Indian girl who was with an asian/hispanic/middle-eastern male. I have seen on rare occasion indian/paki guys with all kinds of women though! (Usually not OTHER hindustanis if they're young and obviously american-raised.)

[–]argunta-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see indian and pakistani guys with women of other minority groups, rarely if ever with white women though.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah totally. I've seen them with white girls before but I live in a fairly liberal and diverse city. I just NEVER EVER see college, artsy, hipster type Indian girls with other Indian guys.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Well. It is the Red Pill. So I'll go there.

Just a theory...but its possible this is, yet again, a manifestation of genetics and evolution.

White women have an instinctual desire to not sully their offspring with inferior nonwhite genetics. Her mate has to be white because anything else is a downgrade for the 5 or 6 offspring she is capable of birthing in her life time.

White men, meanwhile, can produce unlimited progeny and so feel no such aversion to women of other races.

This also explains why every other race is seemingly more attracted to white women than their own women.

Not saying I believe any black or indian redpiller inferior to a white one. If you have seen through the veil of modern chivalry then you are doubtless at the top of the bell curve for whatever race you belong to. But for the rest of the world the simple fact is that nature doesn't believe in equality. This is observable, for example, in the African man's undeniably superior physique. Society DEMANDS that you believe obvious genetic differences like these to be only skin deep - nature would never dare distribute traits like intelligence or empathic capacity unequally. Of course when you apply a little bit of red pill rationality that belief doesn't really hold water.

[–]SanguineThought2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Humans have a plethora of conflicting drives.

We like things that are new and novel, and we like things that are old and familier as well. This is why knowing the ending to a new book or movie increases enjoyment.

We have a natural drive toward genetic homogeneousness, but we also have a drive for diversity of genes. Ever wonder why the guy from Europe gets so much play? It ain't the accent, it's that he is from a similar yet different gene pool.

We all have these impulses going through us. Most of us gravitate toward someone like ourselves. This is why guys named George will marry girls named Georgina more often than any other name. Even though this is the general trend there will always be outliers that go for the different.

[–]dirtboxchampion1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed with differences beeping more than skin deep, but 'inferior' is fucking dumb. A Korean will on average have higher intelligence than a white guy, an AfroCarribean guy will on average have better muscle tone. Different women in different societies value different qualities (except leadership and success which is universal).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I don't see why it needs to be fucking dumb unless you're a bit of a racial white knight or a concern troll but I definitely see what you're saying.

[–]RedPillProphet0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

As a brown guy I will give you that white people clearly have higher status and that is why no attractive white women go for minorities. But that is strictly a social thing. There is no inherent superiority to white people. There obviously are difference between races but they are much more complex than "inferior to superior". If you are going to go by just intelligence (a rather arbitrary measure), white people do not win.. Asians do. If you are going to go by raw physical strength/speed/agility... again white people do not win, black people do. Just because western civilization is dominating the world at this point in history does not imply an obvious genetic superiority.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Just because western civilization is dominating the world at this point in history does not imply an obvious genetic superiority.

Why do you state that opinion as if it were fact? I think it you have to be hamstering to act like that doesn't imply some sort of obvious genetic superiority. If not raw intelligence then at least raw ambition – perhaps a higher rate of sociopaths? Or perhaps its because white people are responsible for nearly every single technological advancement that defines the modern age?

The asian stereotype comes from the fact that the smartest, most driven asians come here. Those are the asians that americans have observed as very smart over the years. China and Japan are not entire nations of 4.0 GPA doctors and engineers.

[–]RedPillProphet0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why do you state that opinion as if it were fact?

Because it is. Left you a little hint:

dominating the world at this point in history

A mere 400 years ago, Ottoman Empire was ruling the world. Nothing has changed since genetically. Probably much sooner than another few hundred years another culture would be ruling the planet... also with no changes of significance to the genetics of the population. Which civilization is running the show at the moment has literally no bearing to the genetic fitness of its individuals. This simulation has simply not ran long enough and there is wayyyy too many variable involved than individual genetics.

The asian stereotype comes from the fact that the smartest, most driven asians come here. Those are the asians that americans have observed as very smart over the years. China and Japan are not entire nations of 4.0 GPA doctors and engineers.

No it doesn't. Asians from all over the globe consistently rank higher in IQ tests than white people.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol what? The Ottoman Empire was not ruling the world dude. Nobody was ruling the world a mere 400 years ago. That concept wasn't even possible until white people set up the global economy. We are literally the only race that has ruled the world thus far.

So when the world finally came into an era when it could be dominated globally, it was white people on top. As you yourself have admitted they are. But that could never be because of genetics huh? I'm not even attached to the idea that it has to be, but I do have to point out that you ARE attached to the idea of the opposite. And irrationally so, if you're seriously comparing the grip of the Ottoman Empire to the western world order of today.

No it doesn't. Asians from all over the globe consistently rank higher in IQ tests than white people.

Hey, I'm cool with that too. Asian women are def among the most desired, going back to the my original theory that sparked this thread.

Edit: Hell I don't even know if asians are most desired. Thats just the impression I have from the internet. Your point about there being so many factors at play stands on its own for the issue. I just think its a little interesting to think about. It comes with realizng so many of the ideas that are shamed out of open discussion (hypergamy and so on) are actually the simple, cold reality that you noticed all along.

[–]RedPillProphet0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol what? The Ottoman Empire was not ruling the world dude. Nobody was ruling the world a mere 400 years ago. That concept wasn't even possible until white people set up the global economy. We are literally the only race that has ruled the world thus far.

If global travel was as easy as it is today 400 years ago... it would have been the Ottaman Empire ruling the world. Point is, it was the dominant civilization of the time. Just picked it, because its the closest one which was not white. But if not that than definitely the Mongol Empire before that or a long array of muslim Empires that dominated the most populated regions for most of the last 1500 years.

So when the world finally came into an era when it could be dominated globally, it was white people on top. As you yourself have admitted they are. But that could never be because of genetics huh?

Simply hasn't been long enough to arrive to that conclusion. If these game changing discoveries were made when some other civilization was at its peak wouldn't they end up ruling the world as well? Here are some reasons why these results are high disconnected from genetics:

  • Group fitness/Culture is a whole new layer on top of individual genetics. A group of highly competitive and strong alpha individuals would fail due to the intense internal competition. A group of cooperating timid beta males in comparison might form a formidable alliance. Point being, what is optimal at an individual level might be bad at a group level.

  • Resources, wealth, power and knowledge are all major non genetic factors that can keep one civilization dominant over the others. All are transferable over several generations.

  • Civilizations are no longer divided based on genetics which makes it impossible to ascertain the link between individual genetics and power of the civilization. For example, one of the biggest reasons US is ruling the world right now is their technological achievements. Take a look at any US university faculty of science/engineering or walk into any prestigious hitech firm's campus... you will find an over abundance of Asians and Indians.

but I do have to point out that you ARE attached to the idea of the opposite

I am not. It's just that as a biologist, it pains me when people incorrectly attribute vague macro phenomenon to genetic causes. The world is not that simple.

[–]argunta-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

it isn't instinctual, it is society enforced. white men and society make life miserable for attractive white women who are with minorities.

[–]humankin1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you sure it isn't white women making their lives miserable? We now know that it's definitely women doing most of the slut shaming and they do it for mate guarding. Actually that makes it likely that you're right but the apparent evidence isn't sufficient to strongly differentiate between these hypotheses. It's possible that white women slut shame simply because people mate guard and it's possible women specifically engage in that behavior.

Do you have sources?

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