Negging on dating apps

morexel · 2017-08-25T17:55:01+00:00

I'm one of those guys who gets a lot of attention on tinder. Tinder is an absolute tragedy for the women who use it.

Despite warnings, we miss red flags with girls that are good in bed and stroking our ego. Girls who ride hard know how to manipulate the best of us. Yet every tinderella I've met has cheated, and cheated in nasty and crazy ways. My experience with normal girls is maybe 10%.

Tinder is for one thing. Don't fall for the song of the sirens. It is deadly and painful.

tb87670 · 2017-08-25T17:02:34+00:00

I relied on online dating and text game and buddy it is hard. It can be soul-draining how few replies you get from women you could easily pull in person. It's not quite a numbers game, if you do that the plain-'ol-uggo's come out and respond. Then you gotta filter through that.

You need to be noticeable, you need to stand out, and your message needs to be tailored for each one but it also can't be a waste of your time.. For a while I had a few good generic introduction messages that I'd just copy-paste, and it did ok. Then I tried making a new message for each one, that was a time-waster. Get general parts of a message made and piece them together for each situation and interest. This hybrid method has had the best long-term success in my experience on dating sites.

Go for the live phone call ASAP. Text doesn't convey tone, and even an attractive guy can sound 'creepy' if she reads a text a certain way. Phone call they can tell confidence from tone and voice.

Negging is now known as a player's tool. I had a cousin watching some cartoon called World of Gumball and they made fun of negging as "that thing guys do to lower a girls confidence". A friggin' kids cartoon. Women mention it by name now. You cannot be overt or obvious about negging. It has to be very subtle. It cannot be done via text or phone, either. She needs to see your body language if you want to even attempt it. I personally don't bother with negging because of how much attention this website is getting.

An aside about my prior sentence, I have heard many women talk about TRP and all of us 'desperate virgins talking about sex' on here. This is where an anti-play can work, go on how dumb this shit is and how fake guys must be here then pull out your dark-triad and you will get laid by feeding her fragile hamster/ego. This works wonders if a woman already knows about PUA or TRP concepts. The reason this works is because too many fucking people around here mention TRP to women and even other men. First two rules of fight club, gents!

GroundhogLiberator · 2017-08-25T17:43:49+00:00

Literally thousands of men competing for her attention. If you catch her in a bad mood with your neg, you're replaceable instantly.

blackedoutfast · 2017-08-25T20:03:36+00:00

girls do not understand sarcasm or subtext via text!

that's why text game is usually a bad idea. that's why negging doesn't work well on dating apps.

girls are generally better than men at reading subtext in real world conversations. they've evolved to be better than us at picking up on very subtle microexpressions and tone of voice. men tend to be a lot more literal and focus on the words being said.

BUT when you start communicating via a method like text messaging, it strips out all of that other stuff and leaves the words. men are used to communicating complicated messages entirely through words.

but women can't do it well. there is no outside context to rely on to help interpret and they read text messages literally. that's why they love emojis - they help them to more accurately interpret the words.

if you text one of your bros and call him a faggot, he's going to know that you're just fucking around. but if a girl texts one of her friends and calls her a bitch, the other girl will read it literally and take it like an actual insult (unless the first included an emoji sticking out it's tongue to help her understand the message).

URnotRP · 2017-08-25T17:44:08+00:00

Dating apps and websites falsely elevate women's SMV and this is why they are a poor tactic at getting laid unless you can say your SMV is so high you would be highly sought after. And if you're highly sought after opening and f closing in public shouldn't be that hard to do, rendering dating apps mostly obsolete.

Let me bring up an OG casual sex site I used and used to have lots of success with. Adultfriendfinder.

HB3s and HB4s on that site get inundated with messages and dick pics. I'd say the majority of their user base were idiots who thought because a woman had a profile on a casual sex site that meant she was going to fuck them if they sent a message saying "ay bb wan sum fuk?" I was only 22 when I found this site and found success by learning how to type a coherent sentence and sending a face pic of me instead of a picture of my dick.

But you have to understand, just like they did with the Ashley Madison expose, there is an overwhelming amount of guys, including married or taken ones, on these sites compared to the amount of girls. Then subtract how many of these girls are on this site just for attention or aren't serious about meeting. Now you've got the perfect shit storm.

On AFF all the overweight 3s and 4s thought they were 8s and 9s because horny married guys would message them by the hundreds every day just looking to get laid and looking to prey on people with low self-esteem. No one was messaging the rare 6-7.5s on the site because they thought they had no chance. Except for me. Realizing that most of these 6-7.5s were most times married swingers looking to get the D from a young man.

I've known a few friends to have some success on Tinder or Bumble. And when I mean some I mean, they were lucky to hit it with HB7.5s once a month. This is after swiping right on dozens to hundreds of pics. And this is only after the app first came out, not many people knew about it, and the curious and attention seeking weren't overpopulating the app like they are now.

I'd say use the app as a supplemental tool to getting laid but don't rely on it as the sole way to plate girls. And remember too now that the app has been outed by the mainstream there's going to be about 10,000 drooling mongoloids who open by sending dick pics and expect to get laid instantly falsely elevating the SMV of all the girls on the app.

sigma272 · 2017-08-25T17:15:19+00:00

I personally just wait for them to neg me (they always do) and then jokingly reverse it on them. A recent one:

"You're getting to that age where you should be thinking of settling down"

"You're absolutely right, grandma. Will I be as wise as you when I'm your age?" (she was a few months older than me)

TRP_MushaShugyo · 2017-08-25T16:37:47+00:00

I don't use dating apps much but I will say that I've had pretty poor results when negging over text lately, even really light sarcastic remarks. The humor just seems to get lost or misinterpreted, especially if it's earlier on, like in the first few text exchanges. I've been playing it much more conservatively with better results. They say texting is for logistics only for this reason. I don't really sext or anything like that- I'm kind of interested, but a bit apprehensive that I'll do or say something to turn her off. I'm 1000% more confident in person.

slumdog-millionaire · 2017-08-25T19:09:24+00:00

In response to your first point about chatting extensively to screen.

The reasoning you've given is sound but unfortunately in situations like this trying to chat extensively would probably just backfire. Because she doesn't know you, it's more likely that if you drag on the conversation without closing on a date, she will just stop responding.

It's better not to really text much at all until you've met at least once or twice otherwise you're probably sending the message that you're highly interested imo. I would just text for logistics.

ForeverMaverick · 2017-08-26T06:01:15+00:00

1) Crucial to spend a lot of time screening via dating app chat as well as text prior to agreeing to meet. Your time is valuable, and you have to show that you guard it heavily. Only initiate a meeting once you have checked off all your boxes.

Because my time is valuable I don't spend time screening online. Words have no value. My checkboxes are: is there attraction? "Yes" /"No". AWALT.

2) As part of the screening above, start setting the stage and the tone for good behavior. What will and what will not be rewarded.

You can do this in person and it's much more effective.

3) Tear apart pieces of their profile that are obscure, missing, or being hidden (very common today) - and try to get to the bottom of all the things you don't understand.

Bullshit. No effort on building a profile? She's a CC slut. Don't waste your time trying to get to know a CC slut. Just rail her.

4) If they are over 30, ask them if they have ever been engaged or married. Back in the day, this used to be a field on match.com. In today's purposefully degenerate world, most dating apps obscure this information.

I don't see the point of this. This information is as irrelevant as asking for her notch count. Screen what you have by her behavior, not by what she says or by some random meaning you assign to marriage according to your morals. Remember:

Words have no value;
Marriage means nothing - a woman can be married and cheat, in fact, research shows more than 50% of women have cheated in at least one relationship;
Game & TRP are amoral.

5) ALWAYS keep a first meeting to something that is free or very low cost. A walk, coffee, etc. No one is worth spending a dime on until you can judge their character and their persona.

I absolutely agree. I would add keep most interactions with a woman through the relationship free or low cost and let her pay whenever she wants to. The only time it's OK to spend some money is when you're doing something you really want for yourself and she wants to come along, paying for her own expenses. Example: tickets for an expensive event or a weekend vacation somewhere exotic.

6) Set the first encounter close to your place to minimize your investment. Set following encounters according to the best logistics for a fuck session, depending on if any of you can bring each other home or you need to do it in a car, hotel, etc.

7) Neggging online is mostly ineffective since it can be easily misinterpreted due to lack of tone and expressiveness, which are fundamental to successful communication. Much easier IRL. Return to point 1.

Good iniciative.

Dmva100 · 2017-08-25T18:57:33+00:00

Negging gets you blocked these days. Not much else.

Trump4GodEmperor · 2017-08-26T00:37:29+00:00

Not necessary. Just say "hey" (2 lines of back and forth basic chat) "you seem cool, lets meet up." "#?"

99% of your tinder sucess is based on whether or not she likes your photos.

Most of the time if they say hey back they're interested in meeting up.

Alexinfinite01 · 2017-08-26T13:35:45+00:00

Dating apps are low energy fishing lines. Use them at your leisure as just another tool that you don't expect much results from and once in a while it'll yield some results here and there. Don't invest in it as a primary source of female hunting or investigating. It's an add on to everything else at best. Useful, but not overly.

Mangoinhand · 2017-08-26T03:19:07+00:00

If you're negging on dating apps... then you are texting too much.

Bing400 · 2017-08-26T06:42:07+00:00

5 is very nice. I'll be damned if spend more than 1.65$ for a hotdog on a random woman. Hell, I'll try to make her pay for it too

perfectcell- · 2017-08-26T03:06:55+00:00

Looks like we're just gonna have to wait until these girls are done fuckin chads from these dating apps. Once they hit the wall and Chad no longer desires them, that is where we come in ;)

TunedtoPerfection · 2017-08-26T07:17:00+00:00

No woman worth a damn that actually wants to fuck a "random hottie" is using tinder anymore. It's all just a validation stream.

If your not very good in the looks department and have a profile that is seriously attractive your not getting anyone above average. So your time is just wasted swiping right to everything. Key hear is women know every guy does that. So if anything is even remotely off/creepy/weird/or turns her off on your profile it's not worth her effort.

Tinder is good for testing the attractiveness of your social media profile. If your actually getting attractive women, with a tinder profile your golden. It's when your profile attracts the cat ladies, land whales, and feminazi's that you need to look into changing it up.

Throw up a profile, get an autoswiper(if they still exist). Autoswipe a couple 1000's girls. See the types of women you are attracting. Adjust profile language, tone, pictures, etc until you can drop off/offend enough the undesirable ones while keeping or picking up new desirable ones. Also a good way to see the type of personality that really attracts women

DavidGolani11 · 2017-08-28T03:37:53+00:00

negging doesn't work for all female personality types. For the drunken club girl types it works, but for shy girls its a huge turnoff.

Zech4riah · 2017-08-28T12:54:55+00:00

Generally, you have to be really careful with negging in dating apps. Most of the time it's hard to establish enough value to be able to neg and pick up fitting subjects for light negs.

If your value is low, women won't respond to negging too well (this includes tearing apart their profile about obscure, missing, hidden things). You should avoid negging "two times in a row" at all costs no matter how funny or light the situation is.

I would be surprised if your method actually works. No girl wants to meet a guy who starts deep probing already in the dating app. That is low value and neurotic.

miiichellerenee · 2017-08-27T12:16:29+00:00

Negging is a pathetic strategy only subhuman garbage would need to resort to.

LWKII · 2017-08-25T16:44:17+00:00

I tell them im a pokeman master beta mofo and it usually drives them away? Any advice by you smokin hot alphas? Pwetty pwease, thanks.

Title	Negging on dating apps
Author	sgactw
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Date	August 25, 2017 4:07 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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