How do you efficiently use a wingwoman?

bl1y · 2014-11-25T21:49:39+00:00

The most important thing is communication about your roles and expectations. Same as with a wingman.

Most wingwomen who have no experience think that their role is just to be a cheerleader and say "Oh, go talk to her!" That's worthless, and often quite frustrating.

What you'll want is for her to fulfill the basic wingman role, which is to neutralize obstacles. Basically, when you're talking to a girl, the two main obstacles are her cockblocking friends and AMOGs. In either case, she talks to them to keep them occupied so they can't ruin your set.

The bonus for a wingwoman is that she can easily open sets for you. Girls don't trigger the same auto-reject response guys often run in to. This is especially good for opening larger or mixed groups.

philosarapter · 2014-11-25T21:29:57+00:00

You find a set of cute girls. Your wing-woman goes in an chats them up and makes them feel comfortable, then begins to talk you up before waving you over and introducing them to you.

PedophilePriest · 2014-11-26T07:07:46+00:00

Honestly wing women are a lot tougher if you've never slept with them.

I'd take a HB6 that I've fooled around with and shown a great time too, over an HB8.5 that I've never messed around with. Other women can tell and will gauge the woman for what you can do in bed.

In your situation, she shouldn't really need to do anything, just hang out and talk to you, spend the first ten minutes with you, you both wander and mingle, and she comes back to you regardless of what guy approaches her, that alone will do alot to demonstrate your value to everyone else at the venue, and you can go from there.

SinSlayer · 2014-11-25T21:29:14+00:00

Play "have you met the naughtygarbageman"

Have her chat you up to target.

jacks_not_surprised · 2014-11-25T23:53:22+00:00

You friendzoned an 8.5 ?

Really? Reeeeaally?

itsmevichet · 2014-11-25T21:39:30+00:00

Be seen having fun with her. Have her chat up girls and introduce them to you. After that, it's all you.

c00kiecutter · 2014-11-26T01:41:40+00:00

I never went out with a single wingwoman. But basically any of the girls that come out with me in a group are basically my wingwomen because they're laughing at stupid shit I say, touching me a lot and all that stuff that all the other women notice. Also I really like female energy, it really gets me in a good state.

So I'd say, just have fun with her and do stupid shit like play "if I were you".

Lagavulin · 2014-11-26T05:38:52+00:00

Just a thought: I'm assuming you've brought her up to speed on the whole Game/Seduction thing, even if you're not experienced at it?

If not, make it a fun date-night kinda thing....a 'fun' game by which you both could hang-out for an evening. She'll undoubtedly love the idea. Also, you could discuss winging her as well, what that might involve, probably get some great insights into what women need in social interactions.

My point is: in my experience, women are FAR more devious than men. They LOVE this kind of relationship game-play stuff. And they do it naturally! Far more naturally than we do. I mean we have to frickin' learn it on interwebs and reddits and shit...who teaches us? But they have been learning it via female inter-relations since they were in Kindergarten. Three times in my life I've had a woman seduce me. I wasn't anything like a PUA, just a dork of a guy, but I can look back even now and see they all played the game completely differently than we're trying to play it on 'seduction' forums. They Network Naturally, involve others to their cause, manipulate relationships between people, shit like that.

Us guys try to power into a 'set' and work the tactics, like it's some kind of football game. They just look at the game and figure out how to bend the rules so it becomes a different game.

Anywho, just my thoughts in this particular moment....

So if there is clearly no 'thing' between you two, definitely get her involved in your game! She'll probably blow you away how good she is at it.

Plus, if it turns out there's an attraction betwixt you that you haven't realized yet, she'll just use the whole 'PUA Game' thing to ensnare you. You may not think this might happen, but if she wants it to, it will. Like I said. Women Get Game far better than we do. They just haven't realized yet that men are starting to think about it as well....

coughcoughpow · 2014-11-26T10:02:28+00:00

I think this is like a weird female fantasy. It makes them feel powerful. Same thing with women who go and try to do matchmaking with their friends.

It's definitely a skill, tho. Not everyone can do it. I think it's best with: Extrovert/Introvert Wildman/Down-to-earth

Also, you're gonna get the "Is she your girlfriend?" that you have to explain away.

uhhthatguy · 2014-11-26T16:50:06+00:00

She becomes a Pivot. I'd say read up on the classics in this regard. Basically she provides instant social proof to those around you.

BuzzzBuzzz · 2014-12-01T03:27:45+00:00

My husband and I are the wing-"couple" for our friend group, if that is even a thing. Being the wingwoman is actually very easy.

I will usually start dancing with the entire group of girls and then pull the male friend in. This also works if a guy is trying to approach a random hot girl at the bar. Just have the female friend start a conversation and then invite the interested guy friend over.

My husband always stands in the background and makes sure that no one (including our other male friends) is cockblocking.

ambientlightin · 2014-12-04T18:13:34+00:00

I see lot of folks, including me, like the idea of having a wingman/woman. So out of curiosity - will an app that let you hire a wingman sound to folks out here. Plus, if you are a wingman you get paid!. This of this like Uber for wingman ;)

DaygameCoach · 2014-11-25T21:59:00+00:00

You should always open your own sets (shows confidence and doesn't succumb to Approach anxiety) , but after you have opened, she joins you in set and occupies obstacles for you, whether they are male or female. She can also DHV to to the target at some point, if necessary. Pivots are female friends of yours who really want you to succeed and want to help.

If one insists on having other people open for you, they can use an "accomplishment intro."

Cuisine, daygamer.net

Title	How do you efficiently use a wingwoman?
Author	TheNaughtyGarbageMan
Upvotes	20
Comments	16
Date	November 25, 2014 9:22 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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