Getting fit changed everything.

Swiftwaters · 2016-09-04T00:01:08+00:00

So in the past 5 months I've lost 12 kgs, and now i notice that a group of girls begin to check me out or compliment me, before that they used to...

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I see what you mean. Especially the drugs part. Main reason i keep far away from them these days haha.

But you make one grave error in your reasoning. "I'm an introvert". Maybe you are, maybe you aren't i don't know. What i do know is that introverts lack the desire for social contact compared to extraverts. Shyness and awkwardness have nothing to do with it.

What you descibe is overthinking. You've visited negative outcomes before you act. This is a lack of self esteem, not being introverted. It's based on fear of rejection. Drugs let you act like a social monster being my best argument. Drugs make you act before you think. Skipping the self induced fear reaction, allowing your social nature to flurish.

People in here keep saying become outcome independent. This is what you should work on in my opinion. Internalise that the world doesn't change in the slightest when people reject you. It only reflects there current emotional state or the emotional state you put them in. This means that the options are that you couldn't succeed with that person at that time anyway or that you found a flaw in your game. Finding a flaw the something beautiful instead of Scary. It allows you to inprove yourself.

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Do you find being social more draining then being alone? That would be the textbook psychological discription of an introvert.

If so then it could be a great source of social strength for you. Because you can be content while alone and people are just an addition to the level of contentment in your life. That is a way of living and thinking extroverts are unable to. They need people.

Also women find it far more attractive when a man doesn't need them to be happy, but chooses to share a life because they feel like the woman adds to there life. That situation would also be, in my opinion, the base for the most healthy relationships.

About the drugs. They are a double edged sword in my experience. The reason i have to be very very careful around them because they take away my worries while high, but increase my worries after coming down again. They made me too lazy to act, while making my fear of not acting and making something of myself ten times worse.

I'm not naive enough to say don't do drugs, but if you choose to use them, use them knowing what they do to you while and afterwards. Also know why you use them. I used them because it was addictive to let myself go and be social. That was wrong. Very wrong. You should only use them to highten the moment. To enhance the moment instead of releasing your from the bounds of your own shortcomings for a few hours.

Btw i do have the feeling that we are very similar, but that you are a bit younger then me (i'm 25). If you need advice sometime shoot me a pm.

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even heard some girls saying that in person.

mmmmmmm. girls say a lot of shit. my closest friend is a girl, she used to be a decently large slut, and the shit she says about 1 guy she likes to the next literally changes IN THE SAME 20 seconds all the fucking time. and then she gets frustrated when called on it. i don't think girls have a clue about anything to do with being turned on, they just feel it or they don't and their explanations of it after the fact aren't even close.

Obviously it is not that important to be super fit

she'll say this exactly in an argument and try every which way to prove it, and then she sees a big ripped dude splashing water on his abs in a pool and starts zoning out and biting her lip. like fuck off.

book of pook is probably too basic for a lot of guys here, for me it was absolutely perfect, especially that part.

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Losing weight is not the only change you have to do appearance wise.

I know a shitton of ripped dudes who still look like shit, just because they don't take care of themselves or wear shitty clothes (looking at you tanktop dude with slobby shorts and a haircut like a homeless).

While losing weight get better at your hygiene and choice of clothes aswell.

Get a nice and clean haircut and beard (or if you don't want one, have always a clean shave). Take care of your fingernails (clean them and cut them) and teeth (brush regulary and use gum after smoking or eating something smelly or after drinking much alcohol). Always smell good (regulary shower, use Deo or perfume). Small tip for the perfume usage, it should match your deo/body gel and use it on your torso, your hands and neck. If you touch a women or give her something, shes gonna notice your hands are smelling nice. If she hugs you or comes near you, shes gonna notice your head/neck part smells nice, which builds a ton of attraction.

Wear fitting clothes (both in style/colour aswell as fitting to your body shape), pay attention at T-Shirts, jackets, pullover, jeans, socks, shoes and underwear. I don't even joke about the socks, shoe and underwear part. My Ex Girlfriend told me that my ugly grey socks and dirty/overused shoes were a big turnoff, same with my ugly boxers (boxerbriefs are mostly preferred by women).

Never, nevveeeeer wear clothes which are too big or too small. I don't care if you have a body of a potatoe or the body of a fork. Look at pictures of celebrities which have a similar body typ, you will see what fitting clothes looks like and you will realize that no matter how fat or skinny you are, you can wear fitting clothes which are in harmonie to your body shape.

Take care of your skin. In my case, the less sweets or salty snacks I eat, the cleaner my skin gets. The more I am outside the better my skin looks like (sometimes I just sit at the park and make sure the sun hits me for an hour). Which makes you look way better and healthier.

If you wear glasses, make sure you pick decent ones. A simple black frame fitting to your face shape. Always clean the glasses, always, even if you don't notice the small fingerprint at the corner or a white line somewhere, others do.

If you like to wear watches, pick simple and decent ones (black or silver is always safe).

I lost 10kg since may, every 5kg I bought 2 T-shirt which were more fitting, that made people notice my weight loss extremly. They are always suprised when I'm telling them how much I actually lost.

My Cousin which is in her mid 20s (and isthe typical good looking party girl) told me I went from a 4 to a solid 7 the last few months. When I asked her why, she told me "You look way cleaner and healthier".

TL;DR: Be cleaner, smell nice and wear clean fitting clothes.

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Drugs : Nothing, no alcohol, no weed, even no coffee.

Teeth : I already fixed them and basically brush them twice a day + chewing gum during the day + 2 rounds antiseptic mouthwash, I think it should do.

Hair : Well, I wear my current haircut ...since I remember and my leeway is even more narrow as I'm slowly losing hair. As for beard there's no way, I'm going to grown one as after 2-3 days my skin itches horribly and some weird shit starts to grown on sweaty skin (I sweat a lot).

Clothes : Well, nothing to say here - I suck when it comes to fashion. I buy some t-shirts every now and then, but never with a bigger image of myself with them.

Skin : I basically take a bad every day, at very worse every 2nd day is some shit happens. As for perfumes, I use some random ones like Old Spice, but it doesn't matter as every deodorant/perfume evaporates in he speed of light from my skin. Basically, my sweat/tallow nullifies them all within 1-2 hours.

If you touch a women or give her something, shes gonna notice your hands are smelling nice.

That's a bold assumption about someone working in IT. It's basically gey-zone.

Those sound like a list taken from Models or it's just me ?

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I wrote a pretty large answer to your comment. I deleted it because I realized mid-way you are not trying to take advice, but more to argue with me. Well, your choice.

I drop some short comments anyways, hope it helps you or someone else:

I don't know how you look like. Maybe you are a solid 9/10, maybe you smell way better than me, maybe you are cleaner than me, I don't know, so thats just basic advices. If you think I hit a nail, pick it. If not, ignore it.

I wear my current haircut ...since I remember

Change it, if it sucks, it grows back.

I suck when it comes to fashion

Most Men do, including me. Ask for advice (everyone around your age). If you have problems asking drive to another city and ask the employees at the shop (I actually did that because I didn't want to someone see me doing that at my hometown). Or just copy people you see, doesn't matter if its in the club/bar, at your work or internet.

Skin

See it doctor if you have bad skin, maybe some lotion could help. Maybe you missing something in your diet, could be anything. Either work on it, work around it or in the worst case you have to accept it

random ones

Well don't use random ones. Google some reddit threads about perfumes, a good perfume is 10000x better than just a perfume. If sweating is such a big problem, use more dominant deo, take the deo with you and use it several times through the day. Maybe change your clothes mid-day

Old Spice

Don't know how old you are. But this one is more for the 30+ people. Its a typical Dad smell. I recommend other ones, even if you are 30+. If you really like it, give atleast the other perfumes a shot, maybe you like them more.

in IT. It's basically gey-zone.

Bullshit.

Plant one idea in your head. Everyday and every place could be the one you meet your next hookup/date/GF/wife. Everyday and place you don't present yourself as a attractive partner, you could miss that hookup/date/GF/wife. I don't mean to overthink that all now and get out everyday in a suit and the most expensive perfume. But you should present yourself as good as possible and represent a attractive partner. I had a buddy who met his GF at a funeral. I dated women who I met while repairing pipes while covered in shit and tampons to the knee (helped out a plumber). The place and time could be anywhere.

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Do a split. Cardio should be the last thing you do, unless you do circuit training and incorporate HIIT in between sets to keep your heart rate up. Otherwise you'll use up all your energy and be burnt out on your lifts.

This is a decent beginner 4 day split with cardio on off days. You should watch videos and make sure you hit the muscles by focusing on the contraction.

Monday: Chest and Triceps
Bench Press: 4 sets of 8-12 reps
Incline Dumbbell Press: 4 sets of 8-12 reps
Machine Flies: 3-4 sets of 8-12 reps
Dips: 4 sets of reps to failure
Tricep extensions (cable, straight bar): 4 sets of 8-12 reps
Tricep extensions (cable , curved bar) 3 sets of 8-12 reps
Skull Crushers : 3-4 sets of 8-12 reps

Tuesday: Back and Biceps
Wide Grip pullups: 4 sets to failure
Deadlifts: 4 sets of 5-8 reps
Lat Pulldowns: 3-4 sets of 8-10 reps
Cable Rows: 3 sets of 8-12 reps
DB curls: 4 sets of 8-12
Close Grip Chinups: 4 sets of 8-12 reps
Hammer Curls: 3 sets of 8-12 reps

Wednesday: Shoulders and Abs
Military Press: 4 sets of 8-10 reps
Seated bent over delt raises: 4 sets of 12 reps
Barbell rear delt rows: 4 sets of 12 reps
Dumbbell Shoulder Press: 4 sets of 8-10 reps
Lateral Raises: 4 sets of 8-10 reps
Front Raises: 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Dumbbell shrugs: 4 sets of 12
Situps: 4 sets to failure
Crunches: 4- sets to failure
Planks: 4 sets of failure

Thursday: Legs and Abs
Squats: 4 sets of 8-10 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets of 8-12 reps
Calf Raises (standing): 4 sets to failure
Calf Raises (sitting): 4 sets to failure
Ball Oblique twist: 4 sets to failure
Leg raises: 3-4 sets to failure
Bicycle Kicks: 3-4 sets to failure

Friday:Rest, light cardio
Saturday: Rest , light cardio activities
Sunday: Rest, light cardio activities

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I gotta disagree with this program. For one, anything more then 8 reps is encouraging a lot of time under tension, and is more in the body building range. While body builders are strong, they are A LOT of water. It's actually sarcoplasm, which holds a lot of energy in the form of glycosomes. However if you are in a calorie deficit you don't have the energy to dedicate to storing it in muscles.

On top of that, HIIT is a workout in its own not something you do to keep your heart rate up between sets.

Actually building muscle and loosing fat is incredibly hard individually and require opposite things-- calorie deficit and calorie surplus. You can change the ratio by not gaining much fat. And you can maybe get stronger (and slightly bigger) incredibly slowly, as that is more the neural system while loosing fat. The physique would be closer to a wrestler. But done in a healthier way. However the exercises would be closer to a 5x5 program with 500 calories added on on lifting days. But to actually put on size you can't be cutting. But their is absolutely nothing wrong with a wrestler look. A good D1 wrestler is one of the strongest and in best shape pound for pound athletes in the world and has a killer physique.

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Agree 100% with calories in/out, it is the only thing that works for fat loss, have to disagree on doing weights primarily if you are fat. I can burn 500-800 calories if I work really hard in a 1 hour session versus burning around 13 calories per day for every extra kilo of muscle. Putting on a kg of muscle or 2.5 pounds is not that easy.

If someone is carrying excess fat then they are far better to do cardio untill they have stripped enough fat away so as to see any benefits that lifting weights may have.

It all boils down to seeing results. If you are fat and you spend 6 months solidly every night lifting weights. Even if you do everything right there is a good chance of seeing zero change on the outside.

That would be demoralising to many. It is better in my opinion to get rid of the fat with cardio which gives noticeable and stark results & once some shape and ability to actually see muscles develops then start doing weights.

The reason for that is by doing weights at that point, you get to see the results of the effort you put in much sooner and are not left guessing if you are even making any progress or not.

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Title	Getting fit changed everything.
Author	Swiftwaters
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Date	September 4, 2016 12:01 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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