Recently at my local gym I've observed a phenomenon - twice this week I've seen a beefy dude approach very attractive women on treadmills and strike up a conversation. The women seem not only undisturbed, but straight up eating out of the palm of their hand completely mesmerized. Two separate meatheads and two separate HB8-9 ladies. The first guy may have had some seduction training because he kept bodyrocking and turning as if to walk away, but I digress. These were definitely not couples, and at best acquaintances.

I found this fascinating because conventional seduction wisdom and a number of posts I've read have stated explicitly not to approach someone on a treadmill. They don't want to hear from you mid workout.

One theory I have is that it's so unconventional that by approaching with utmost confidence these guys are sending super high value don't give a fuck signals with their approaches. Another theory is pure social dynamics, these roided out dudes (not slander, just fact) are kings in this jungle. Any thoughts?