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| 1 | How do you deal with the waiting?It’s more worth it to use apps then have to grind and grind and force myself to go out try to brute force approaching in real life. In order for me to try something I have to at least reasonably believe I can succeed. It wont do me any good to try to force myself to approach AND not have my attempts go anywhere. It would just make me discouraged and quit. To try and approach irl would never be fun for me, I have little motivation to socialize anyway and there’s only so much I can tolerate before… | /r/seduction | 14/11/25 06:48 AM |
| 1 | How do you deal with the waiting?I don’t really know what I would do as far as that. But even if I did do some activity and I came across a woman there that I was attracted to, I would have basically no confidence I’d be able to get a date out of it. But that’s if I go somewhere and actually come across a dateable woman in the wild. The way my life is, it’s as if dateable women only exist on apps | /r/seduction | 14/11/25 06:45 AM |
| 1 | How do you deal with the waiting?The “action” I need to take is to find ways to make the waiting in the attic of dormancy more bearable. That’s the sole objective I had in making this tread to begin with. But then all I get is a bunch of cold approach touts trying to project what they think I need onto me instead of considering the nuances of my situation. Sometimes I wonder why I bother even posting on here | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 11:57 PM |
| 1 | How do you deal with the waiting?I’m looking for ways to make the waiting between encounters more bearable. Not to be lectured about how I ought to “put myself out there” | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 11:54 PM |
| 1 | How do you deal with the waiting?Well then if you say I deserve to wait and wait, how do I make the waiting more bearable. I’m not looking for ways to approach in public. I’m looking for ways to deal with the realities of my dating life | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 11:53 PM |
| 0 | How do you deal with the waiting?I’m looking for ways to make the waiting times I have between encounters from apps more bearable. Throwing myself into the deep end with approaching in public is the exact opposite of what I should do | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 11:51 PM |
| -2 | How do you deal with the waiting?I’m not going to start approaching in public, in my case that’s a terrible idea. Furthermore I just dont have the energy to invest all this time and effort trying to learn to approach. I legit do not want to shuttle myself around town and go out and try to approach only to just keep getting nowhere. Online dating is what I have, and that is what I will use. I’m not here to talk about approach in public, I will not do it | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 08:10 AM |
| 1 | How do you deal with the waiting?You speak about such events as if dateable women will be there. In my experience, all the women that one encounters at any public place are already seeing someone. But that’s if there’s any attractive women at all | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 02:08 AM |
| 2 | How do you deal with the waiting?Though how can it be rebuked? No matter what I still wake up every day frustrated with how much waiting and lack of agency there is in my dating life | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 02:05 AM |
| 1 | How do you deal with the waiting?I’m not going to try with all this cold approach bs and dragging myself around town just in some vague hope of meeting anyone. It’s not a good look. Do you have actual advice about how to make the waiting more bearable, or are you going to continue giving generic boomer tier advice like “get out of your comfort zone” and “put yourself out there”? I’m not seeking ways to approach women in public. I’m seeking ways to make the realities of my dating life more bearable | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 02:02 AM |
| 0 | How do you deal with the waiting?Thank you for such a constructive and introspective comment! | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 02:00 AM |
| 1 | How do you deal with the waiting?What part of “I’m not psychically attracted to east asian women” do you not understand? | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 01:52 AM |
| -2 | How do you deal with the waiting?I’m not comfortable approaching women in person, and I don’t want to shuttle myself around town and go to all these events when I have very low social energy to begin with. Furthermore there are no single, dateable women irl anywhere. And even if I met any I wouldnt be able to do anything with such leads IF they should appear. Apps are my only frame of reference as far as getting dates. If I am 29 and have NEVER hooked up with, dated, or even kissed a woman I’ve first met irl and didnt see on an… | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 01:50 AM |
| 0 | How do you deal with the waiting?I have no agency because whether or not i get a date just depends on swiping on apps and waiting for a good match to come. I have no way of meeting women in real life, in real life I never come across dateable women, and all I have experience in as far as getting dates is concerned is thru apps, so I dont even have the experience of dating a woman I’ve first met irl instead of apps. Cold approach is a stupid, stupid idea for someone like myself and I would never do it, and also there is no way I… | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 01:47 AM |
| 1 | How do you deal with the waiting?Assets means like a nice rack/curves and all that lol. I am a ethnic German living in US, yes | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 01:44 AM |
| -2 | How do you deal with the waiting?I’m not interested in sleeping with CCP spies, nein danke | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 01:41 AM |
| 2 | How do you deal with the waiting?Its not just the face, but also in the body they just have no assets lol. But isnt it the case that these southeast asian women are more or less just gold diggers or glorified escorts? I can’t imagine relations between south east asian women and western sex tourists being of a healthy dynamic, at least not most of the time. At the end of the day such things would be transactional. If you must know what country I live in, I am somewhere in the US | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 01:40 AM |
| 0 | How do you deal with the waiting?I dont want to further the whole “introverted western expat with a thai woman” stereotype. But in any case I’m not attracted to east asian women | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 01:37 AM |
| 1 | How do you deal with the waiting?I’m not attracted to east asian women | /r/seduction | 13/11/25 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Guys who have only been able to meet women via apps, how do you deal with the feelings of alienation from the fact you’ve never gotten a date with someone you first met in real life?It’s worrying because I’ve been locked out of that entire aspect. It’s basically like a developmental delay. Almost everyone else developed the skills to be able to get dates from women they first met irl, but I never did. But just meeting somebody irl whom I could potentially date is impossible enough | /r/seduction | 05/11/25 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Guys who have only been able to meet women via apps, how do you deal with the feelings of alienation from the fact you’ve never gotten a date with someone you first met in real life?That’s a lot of my thoughts on it. But it does make me feel sad I’ve never even gotten a date with or kissed a woman I’ve first met irl. It makes me feel like there is something wrong. After all, normal guys have gotten at least one date or relationship with a woman they’ve first met IRL. But I have not. Not even in high school or college, when everyone is supposed to date those they’ve come across irl, was I ever able to do that. Apps are all I have known | /r/seduction | 05/11/25 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Guys who have only been able to meet women via apps, how do you deal with the feelings of alienation from the fact you’ve never gotten a date with someone you first met in real life?I basically never even come across dateable women in real life. There is no way for me even to meet any women irl I could date. And even if i did, I’m not confident at all I could get a date out of it. I have used dating apps since I was 18 and that’s the only way I know how to get a date. With real life, I wouldnt even really know how to get a date out of it at all. How can I expect, at nearly 30 years old, to just all of the sudden get a date out of it if i meet some woman irl, when i havent e… | /r/seduction | 05/11/25 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Guys who have only been able to meet women via apps, how do you deal with the feelings of alienation from the fact you’ve never gotten a date with someone you first met in real life?The demographics in my life dont loan themselves to real life. I never come across women in my daily life that are attractive, single, and attracted to me. In the rare instance that I am talking to a woman incidentally in public, she will always mention her boyfriend. But usually I am never around women i could date at all. My hobbies are all either solitary or male dominated so meeting women thru such channels is out as well | /r/seduction | 05/11/25 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Guys who have only been able to meet women via apps, how do you deal with the feelings of alienation from the fact you’ve never gotten a date with someone you first met in real life?Yeah I get that. But like i said, i am almost 30 years old and i havent even kissed anyone that i first met irl, and all romantic encounters in my life have come from apps. Isn’t it concerning, that people half my age have had some sort of romantic encounter with people they’ve first met irl, when I myself an nearly 30 and all my romantic experience has come from apps? | /r/seduction | 03/11/25 01:59 AM |
| 0 | Guys who have only been able to meet women via apps, how do you deal with the feelings of alienation from the fact you’ve never gotten a date with someone you first met in real life?Wow that’s basically completely the opposite of me | /r/seduction | 03/11/25 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Guys who have only been able to meet women via apps, how do you deal with the feelings of alienation from the fact you’ve never gotten a date with someone you first met in real life?It’s not that I’m not willing to put in the work. There are legitimate constraints that drastically lower my chances of dating women I’ve first met irl, that can’t be changed just by “putting in the work” or “putting myself out there” or whatever | /r/seduction | 02/11/25 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Guys who have only been able to meet women via apps, how do you deal with the feelings of alienation from the fact you’ve never gotten a date with someone you first met in real life?I guess that is indeed true. People do to exaggerate their dating stories. But on the flip side, the fact I am nearly 30 and havent even kissed a woman I have first met irl is concerning | /r/seduction | 02/11/25 11:19 PM |
| -1 | Guys who have only been able to meet women via apps, how do you deal with the feelings of alienation from the fact you’ve never gotten a date with someone you first met in real life?Like i said, there are things about my situation that i accept. But it is worrying that basically literally everybody else has at least some precedent of having dating someone they first met irl, and I have none. I bet you yourself have dated somebody you met irl at least once. But it is worrying when one has made it to my age and never even kissed someone they first met irl | /r/seduction | 02/11/25 11:18 PM |
| -15 | Guys who have only been able to meet women via apps, how do you deal with the feelings of alienation from the fact you’ve never gotten a date with someone you first met in real life?Cool story bro. But I’m not here to talk about cold approach | /r/seduction | 02/11/25 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Guys who have only been able to meet women via apps, how do you deal with the feelings of alienation from the fact you’ve never gotten a date with someone you first met in real life?It’s not as much about what others think of me for only using apps. But what gets to me is how everybody else seemingly has dated somebody they’ve met in real life, and that never happens for me. I don’t think it’s my fault i havent dated someone i first met irl | /r/seduction | 02/11/25 10:44 PM |
| 4 | What are your seduction unpopular opinions and hot takes? Things you truly believe, but would get downvted?The greatest factor in meeting women is luck. People like to think somehow that they can learn to cultivate certain attributes that supposedly increase their chances, but it is all an illusion. Luck is not only the biggest factor, it is the only one. The entirely of ones romantic success by far and away comes down to luck | /r/seduction | 21/09/25 10:03 PM |
| 7 | Why do you guys keep using Dating Apps?Dating apps have always been the only way I have been able to meet women. When people say “Just get off the apps and try real life”, it makes me want to punch someone. Meeting women in real life is NOT a reality in my life at all, so dating apps is all I have and all I will have to be able to meet women. I am 29 years old, and have NEVER dated, hooked up with, or even kissed a woman I have initially met irl, and ALL my previous encounters began with a swipe on an app. Every. Single. One. It’s ge… | /r/seduction | 21/09/25 09:39 PM |
| 1 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?Hope that my luck turns. Luck is the primary factor in my own lived experience as far as meeting women is concerned. I think I’ll just have to keep swiping on apps and waiting long times for a good match, and somehow I just need to make the waiting more tolerable. I feel that is all I can do | /r/seduction | 21/09/25 09:31 PM |
| 1 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?I’m frankly not interested in paying a coach or getting some sort of wingman, I genuinely wouldnt like trying to meet women thru cold approach or in public or something. I’m skeptical about paying someone for pro photos for a dating app profile, and I don’t think there would be much return on an investment like that anyhow. I’m sorry man, I really don’t want to shoot down people’s advice like this, but in this case even if you mean well I don’t believe these suggestions will get me anywhere | /r/seduction | 21/09/25 08:52 PM |
| 1 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?Cold approach is not suited to my personality and changing one’s bio and pics on dating apps doesnt usually help. Apologies for coming across as dismissive, but this is the reality as I perceive it | /r/seduction | 21/09/25 08:34 PM |
| 2 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?How the hell do I get more leads tho? Leads don’t really happen in my life other than just waiting for a good match on a dating app to come along | /r/seduction | 21/09/25 05:03 PM |
| 3 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?Yeah as I said I like hanging out with women I’m attracted to and sleeping with them. What I hate the most about dating is the process of finding someone, and how long I have to wait between encounters. As i said, I would be content about the fact that most of the time I’m only ever with the same girl for a few weeks if I could actually find new women in a timely manner | /r/seduction | 20/09/25 04:57 PM |
| 1 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?Focusing on enjoying the moment might work, but like I said I have to wait so damn long between hookups. I’d be content with my relationships not lasting long if I could find more women to sleep with in a timely manner. But as I have said I cannot. It all comes down to waiting for months or years until I match with a woman and things get far enough that I hook up with her, and that means there is so much pressure on each viable opportunity. Furthermore it’s frustrating to wait so long to find an… | /r/seduction | 19/09/25 10:31 PM |
| 1 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?I do like to work out at least, I always have motivation to go to the gym for some reason | /r/seduction | 19/09/25 01:04 AM |
| 1 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?Really it’s the state of affairs in general, and also I think it would be more fair if women approached men and some of that burden were taken off of us. I am introverted and it feels contrived trying to chat up any woman, and also I have never ended up dating a woman I have initially met in real life. I do think if women were more inclined to approach I would at least have a minute chance of meeting a woman in the wild and eventually dating her, but then again I usually don’t encounter women I … | /r/seduction | 19/09/25 12:55 AM |
| 2 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?I always assume that there is no forever in my dating life. If I wanted someone to marry and spend the rest of my life with, I was supposed to have met her in school. Past a certain age, nobody is getting someone to grow old with, but only someone to be old with. Furthermore I always believed it is pointless to get married in older ages than 30-35 or so, since the woman in question would have lived so much of her life without you | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 09:39 PM |
| 2 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?The thing i dislike is all the stupid things one has to do just to meet a women and get her in one’s bed, and I hate all the waiting for months and months I have to do on apps to get any viable lead, and I hate how much little agency I have as far as meeting women is concerned. I would be more content with the fact my relationships or flings dont last long if I could easily attain another woman in short order after they end. But that’s never been the case. I always have to wait such a long time | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 09:31 PM |
| 1 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?I see, you’re just a simp for all these 304s lol. Why you simpin so hard bro? | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 09:24 PM |
| 0 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?A woman with the same aspirations doesnt have to put forth any effort to achieve that, that is the difference. We men on the other hand have to jump thru all these hoops to attain it. Why should all the burden of the approach be on us? | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 09:21 PM |
| 2 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?There arent really any dateable women that I encounter in my day to day life at all tho. In the places I frequent, there are none, and even if there were they would more or less have to approach me first | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 09:18 PM |
| 2 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?I have considered that before, but a problem is that I can’t get women in a timely manner. I would need far longer than a two week trip abroad to be able to get a date out of it. I would have to spend months in whatever other country and keep swiping on apps and hoping. I’m not the kind of guy that can get laid while traveling. Furthermore I dont know what country I would go to for that. Some would say southeast asia, but broadly I am not attracted to east asian women. I live in the US but I am … | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 09:12 PM |
| 1 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?As i said in my original post, all meeting women comes down to is luck. I guess in my case I haven’t been fortunate enough for women at concerts to approach me, either that or I’m not very approachable or it’s the case that literally all the women at shows I’ve gone to are taken. But concerts are always sausage fests unless it’s like taylor swift or something, so the pickins are slim to begin with | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 08:44 AM |
| 0 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?Wow, you really believe in the “whore with a heart of gold” trope? | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 08:42 AM |
| 1 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?I guess you’re operating on a different set of parameters, there’s no way I’d be able to do that, especially since I have never hooked up with any women I’ve initially met in real life. If I were at a concert and ended up sleeping with a woman I met there, it would certainly be because she would approach me first and not the other way around. But I never have been approached by a woman at a concert I’ve been to, and like I said, in almost all cases the women at concerts are there with their boyf… | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 08:24 AM |
| -3 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?The men who pay for strippers or whores are losers because innately, they are being financially exploited by the women whose services they seek. These women in question have no respect for the men who seek them out, and they see these guys as nothing more than pathetic, desperate paypigs. All they see with these guys are dollar signs, all they see are lonely and desperate men to exploit and part with their money. So that is why I would not seek out such services, as I am no sucker and refuse to … | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 07:54 AM |
| -3 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?It’s not a question of no effort, but having the effort yielding a proportional reward and not have it seem like a bunch of hoops to jump thru | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 07:44 AM |
| 2 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?I am exactly 6’ tall, though i dont consider my height to be much a factor in my chances with women. How did you manage to meet women at concerts and eventually sleep with them? I cant imagine myself being able to pull that off, especially since you cant really talk to people at concerts very well since everything is so loud, and also because almost every woman at any given concert is there with her boyfriend. How did you manage to hook up with these women somehow despite the fact they were at t… | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 07:43 AM |
| 0 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?Often I have thought of what the future of my dating life is, but certainly i dont see myself ever getting married, and I have had a vasectomy so no children either. I’m at least comforted by the fact I never wanted marriage or children, otherwise I would be much more worried. I guess what i would want is to be able to hook up with women in their 20s for as long as I am able. I dont want to date women my age or older, as the majority of them have all these expectations and want things like marri… | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 07:37 AM |
| -20 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?I see your point but i reiterate i would not do it. I would not want to hook up with any woman that’s had thousands of partners like that. Furthermore, guys who spend money on the sex industry are all losers. Guys that pay for porn and strippers are losers, and guys who pay for escorts are as well. I have zero respect for any women who work in the sex industry and would never give them any money | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 07:12 AM |
| 2 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?Everything. The getting a match, having to text her, having to build attraction and set up a date and do all that. All the social jockeying one has to do to hook up with a woman. Also just the long stretches of waiting and swiping is what gets to me too. I’d feel better if i felt like I could consistently get opportunities. That way when a thing with any woman fizzes out because I hate maintaining relationships or the novelty wears off I could easily get another instead of having to wait for the… | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 07:04 AM |
| 2 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?The problem with lowering my standards is that any intimacy with a woman i would consider less attractive would feel like I’m lying thru my teeth about wanting to do anything with her, and I would feel terrible. It has already happened once before and after that I said never again. I cant really get into it as far as hooking up with a given woman is concerned unless the woman I’m with is attractive enough to make me feel excited about hooking up with her | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 06:57 AM |
| 1 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?It’s not legal where I live, and if it were I still would not | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 06:56 AM |
| 2 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?But how do I deal with lack of intimacy and things like that? I wouldnt want to use escorts, since they’re illegal where I live, and i dont want to sleep with any woman who has had hundreds or thousands of partners even if it were legal. But like I said, I hate how long I have to wait and what hoops I have to jump thru to hook up with any woman, so escorts would at least circumvent those constraints. But I’m not willing to use them, since I believe all men who spend money on the sex industry are… | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 06:33 AM |
| 0 | I’ve realized I hate the process of trying to find women to date, and I hate the process of maintaining romantic relationships. Anyone else? What is your dating life like? How do you navigate this?There’s basically no way i can see myself ever getting married. I would have to have a multi year relationship first, and that would be very difficult. Also even if I were in a situation where somehow I were to end up dating the same woman for multiple years, I would be very resistant to the idea of moving in together since I like living alone too much. But what kind of woman marries a man only for them to live in separate houses? Women have very specific ways they imagine how their marriage wil… | /r/seduction | 18/09/25 06:28 AM |
| 1 | Lack of belief in cold approachI think cold approach is stupid and is touted too much on here as the answer to all questions. Really we need more guys to resist the propaganda of the cold approach mob | /r/seduction | 16/09/25 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Cold Approach Will SAVE YOU.Yeah bro im just completely insufferable and a horrible presence to be around and all that lol. But in all seriousness ima focus on things that might actually work instead of trying to bang my head against the wall with all this cold approach shite | /r/seduction | 29/08/25 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Cold Approach Will SAVE YOU.K | /r/seduction | 28/08/25 08:53 PM |
| 0 | Cold Approach Will SAVE YOU.That’s the survivorship bias talking | /r/seduction | 28/08/25 04:33 AM |
| 0 | Cold Approach Will SAVE YOU.At least when they swipe left it’s not personal. I’d rather it happen that way anyhow | /r/seduction | 26/08/25 05:40 AM |
| 2 | Cold Approach Will SAVE YOU.That, sir, is a false equivalency. The key difference is that in exercise, one gets out what he puts in. As long as one goes to the gym, does heavy compound movements, and has good nutrition, he will improve. But in learning cold approach, one can keep at it for months and see absolutely no result, just rejection after rejection. You are delusional if you believe that most guys can make progress learning cold approach as easily as they can lifting weights. It’s not even the same sort of process.… | /r/seduction | 24/08/25 08:37 PM |
| 0 | Cold Approach Will SAVE YOU.You do you, whatever you need to do to rationalize being rejected hundreds of times just to occasionally get a sliver of hope. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results | /r/seduction | 24/08/25 08:32 PM |
| 3 | Cold Approach Will SAVE YOU.Cold approach is not for everyone, i know that I would never attempt it, nor should most guys. Cold approach is a humiliation ritual for most guys. All my romantic success has come from apps anyhow. The notion that cold approach will fix the dating problems of most men is innately flawed. The touting of cold approach to men as the answer needs to stop! | /r/seduction | 24/08/25 03:46 AM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youWhat has been your experience? | /r/seduction | 22/08/25 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Should I even bother to attempt approaching women at 19?I don’t think cold approach is worth it at all, only a small percentage of guys are able to make it work anyhow | /r/seduction | 08/08/25 07:54 PM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youIt is irrelevant how many women I have or have not approached irl | /r/seduction | 25/05/25 03:43 AM |
| 2 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youWhy should I worry exactly? How is relying on apps any different than relying on something else? | /r/seduction | 25/05/25 03:41 AM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youWhat’s sad about it exactly? I don’t feel sad about it, just curious what would be like were I to meet and eventually date someone without apps. But in any case I can’t hold out for that. Even if I meet a woman that I spend the rest of my life with, I am more or less certain I’d meet her on an app | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 09:32 PM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youI do believe everyone’s match numbers have decreased to an extent. As for myself, usually only a couple matches a year lead to me actually meeting up with the woman in question, but this is par for the course since I recognize that due to my lifestyle and personality I’m not compatible with the average woman on apps, or the average woman in general. The women who do tend to be interested in me are always outside the norm as far as what they are like | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 07:08 PM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youIndeed this is the case. But for some reason there are some who assert that meeting women irl is better, but in my opinion apps are actually more forgiving despite their flaws, and despite the quality of apps having gone downhill somewhat | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 07:06 PM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youI see. It doesnt make me sad that I’ve never met any women I’ve dated thru in person channels, but it does make me feel strange. Almost everyone, even it they mainly rely of apps now, at least have one story in their life about how they ended up with a girl they met in class, or met at a party somewhere or thru friends, and I have none. All the stories I have of meeting any women I’ve dated begins with swiping right on some app | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 07:05 PM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youI’m not a virgin tho, idk what gave you that impression | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 05:51 PM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youHow did you meet the remaining 5%? | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 07:39 AM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youto me it always feels forced trying to start conversations with women out of the blue, and I rarely ever come across dateable women irl anyhow. I usually go months without dates on apps and only get matches occasionally, but still it’s way better than I would be able to do irl | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 07:20 AM |
| 2 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youI’ve used dating apps since I was 18, it’s been the only way for me since | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 07:19 AM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youHow did you meet the women you dated that you met irl? | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 02:15 AM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youI guess then your experience is the opposite of my own. There are indeed some that do well irl but either they dont use apps or apps dont work for them | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 02:06 AM |
| 1 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youI think as well there are some who think dating was better when online dating wasnt a thing yet, but I would assume that dating always sucked for most, and that there never was a thing to do or a place to go to meet women. I shudder to think about what might have happened had I been around in the world before dating apps and thus wouldnt be able to use them. Had I lived in previous eras, I would assume I would have been either perpetually single, or if I would have been married it would have bee… | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 02:03 AM |
| 2 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youYeah it does puzzle me when there are those who believe that it means more if you meet women irl or that it’s better somehow. It’s funny to hear people on the internet bitch and moan about dating apps, when it was the apps that gave me a dating life in the first place. If it wasnt for apps, I’d probably still be a virgin | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 01:45 AM |
| 0 | How many of you have ONLY met women to date using apps? I want to hear from youYeah it is pretty weird but at the same time its kinda rare and cool, especially since I’m nearly 30 and this is still the case | /r/seduction | 24/05/25 01:33 AM |
| -11 | Old School PUA stuff - still works or no?No matter what cold approach is stupid | /r/seduction | 13/04/25 09:50 PM |
| 0 | Stop crying about how dating apps suckIts so puzzling to me when I see guys bitch and moan about dating apps. Dating apps gave me a dating life in the first place. All the women I have done anything with all came from dating apps, I have not ever in my life first met a woman organically and eventually dated or hooked up with her. Literally any time I’ve dated or hooked up with any woman, it’s been a woman I met on an app. I find it absolutely laughable when guys keep complaining about online dating | /r/seduction | 09/03/25 07:52 PM |
| 9 | Assessing the Damage online Dating did to menI might be an outlier, but all my romantic interactions ever have been with women ive met on apps. I have never once dated, hooked up with, or even kissed a girl I initially met in real life instead of online. | /r/seduction | 09/03/25 06:13 AM |
| 3 | Je me suis pris une méchante veste avec une femme….Sprich deutsch du hurensohn | /r/seduction | 17/02/25 04:22 AM |
| 0 | A study by DatePsychology found that 45% of men aged 18–25 have never approached a woman in person for a date.I just turned 29 and have never had a date with any woman i didnt meet on an app first. Tbh i dont even really have any interest on getting dates from women I’ve initially met in real life. At this point in my life, it’s clear that the apps are better | /r/seduction | 11/02/25 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Started college, don't want to waste these years, how can I deal with fear of cold approaching?I never bothered cold approaching in college. Always used apps instead. However I might be an outlier, as I have never once in my life hooked up with or dated any woman that I didnt meet on an app first. I never had any hookups or relationships from meeting women organically, in my case it’s all been from apps. | /r/seduction | 10/02/25 12:27 AM |
| -4 | Getting a new GF as a 21 year oldDont waste time and effort doing cold approaches. Buy a subscription to hinge instead and start swiping. For most guys, cold approach isnt worth the time, effort, and emotional distress. I lost my virginity at 21 and to this very day I have NEVER hooked up with, dated, or even kissed a girl I didnt first meet on an app. I have NEVER dated a woman I have initially met in real life, and have NEVER had to cold approach in my entire life. ALL of my romantic experiences come solely from women I have … | /r/seduction | 17/01/25 07:33 AM |
| 1 | Advice for introvert that isn’t the most social?Perhaps such has worked for you, but for most introverts they’re better off paying for a hinge subscription. Also when we see guys that do well with cold approach, there’s almost always survivorship bias involved. For every one man who has mastered the learning curve of cold approach, dozens have quit. For every one man for whom cold approach has improved his confidence, there are dozens who by trying to cold approach only destroyed their confidence further. Cold approach should not be touted as… | /r/seduction | 02/01/25 05:30 AM |
| 3 | Advice for introvert that isn’t the most social?I’m an introvert myself, and my genuine advice about meeting women for introverts is not to approach them in public. Instead, pay for a subscription to hinge and start swiping. For introverts, it’s better to do this than to put a bunch of time and energy trying to chat up women in public and have things go nowhere. I’m 28 and have never approached a woman in public that I’m interested in, and all my romantic experiences have come from apps. Stop trying to force a square peg into a round hole and… | /r/seduction | 31/12/24 05:42 AM |
| 4 | do you think the annoying industry of onlyfans girls/ female influencers will eventually reach its peak, and die down.The thing about these women is they will never be able to hide their pasts. Once something is put on the internet, it could very well be there forever. When these women want to settle down, they wont be able to hide their pasts (though some sucker will still rationalize marrying them). I do believe as well that in about 15 years, some poor kid will find the porn his mom made and put on the internet before he was born. In my opinion, the decline of onlyfans culture will only come from the decline… | /r/seduction | 26/12/24 04:07 AM |
| -1 | When a woman says you write beautiful poetryBro i think she just called you gay lol | /r/seduction | 02/12/24 10:27 AM |
| 3 | How to Build Consistency in Dating Without Relying on LuckLuck will always be the deciding factor in the dating world | /r/seduction | 29/11/24 08:45 PM |
| 1 | How do you guys deal with feeling missed out at dating in highschool, if u have?I’m 28. I never got to date in high school, and it’s probably my biggest dating related regret. That said, there’s absolutely nothing I can do about it, so the only thing one can do is not to dwell on it, and not to compare oneself to others. Still whenever I hear others speak of their dating experiences in high school, I always feel some sense of resentment and envy towards them. However even if those feelings are valid I can’t dwell on them either. Really there isn’t much one can do about thes… | /r/seduction | 20/11/24 06:08 PM |
| 1 | If you get no attention on dating sites does it mean you will get no attention in real life?For the most part, my impression is that how well one does on apps, one would get similar results in real life. But in my case I may be an outlier. I am 28 and have used apps since I was 18, and to this very day I have never hooked up with or dated a woman I first met in real life. All the women I’ve done anything with I matched with on a dating app first. So in my case, it’s actually real life that has given me zero results. But also I’m never really in environments where I’m meeting dateable w… | /r/seduction | 15/11/24 11:05 PM |
| 1 | The Case for Dating AppsYeah with the amount of charlatans in the dating advice industry one always has to watch out | /r/seduction | 14/11/24 02:24 AM |
| 1 | The Case for Dating AppsI don’t have TikTok. Do you know of any resources on Youtube? | /r/seduction | 14/11/24 01:50 AM |
| 1 | The Case for Dating AppsWhat professional services are there for profile optimization? I might as well pay someone to look at my profile and make the necessary corrections. Sounds like a good idea. Any that you would recommend? | /r/seduction | 14/11/24 01:15 AM |
| 1 | The Case for Dating AppsHow am I limiting myself if I’m putting effort into things that actually work for me, and have actually gotten me dates in the past? Real life on the other hand, has given me zero dates. Not even a kiss from a girl I’ve met thru such channels. At this point in my life it’s better to focus entirely on meeting women thru apps than throwing time, money, and energy into some vague hope of meeting women irl. I’m nearly 30 and I have never dated anyone I’ve initially met in real life. That pattern is … | /r/seduction | 13/11/24 11:48 PM |
| 0 | The Case for Dating AppsNo thank you. I’d rather optimize my dating app profile. I’m not looking for advice about how to meet women irl | /r/seduction | 13/11/24 11:32 PM |
| -2 | The Case for Dating AppsThere’s a lot of people that might as well buy lottery tickets to try and win big, since social mobility is so limited for them that it truly is their best chance to get rich | /r/seduction | 13/11/24 11:19 PM |
| -2 | The Case for Dating AppsSwiping my way to love, as you put it, is a surer bet than having to go thru the hassles of approaching in real life. Most men will do worse in real life than they do online. That’s just facts. I’d rather pay for a hinge subscription than have to pay for gas and parking and drinks at the club and have to shuttle myself around town all in some misguided bid to “approach women” or something. Think about it. For the less than the cost of a single night out, in which most guys will go home alone hav… | /r/seduction | 13/11/24 11:17 PM |
| 3 | The Case for Dating AppsDating apps gave me the opportunity to have a dating life in the first place. I used to think that it was weird that in my case all my romantic experience has come from apps, but truly I am grateful for them now. For some, not only have apps worked, but they’ve made the difference between being able to meet women to date and not being able to at all | /r/seduction | 13/11/24 11:11 PM |
| 1 | The Case for Dating AppsIf it wasn’t for dating apps, a lot of people simply would have been single forever. I’d have still been a virgin if it weren’t for them. Again, not everyone is able to meet women irl to the same degree. | /r/seduction | 13/11/24 11:07 PM |
| 8 | The Case for Dating AppsIt’s overly simplistic to assume that IRL encounters are automatically more effective for everyone or that dating apps are merely a ‘last resort.’ The truth is, many people simply don’t live in environments conducive to meeting dateable people in everyday situations. For some of us, real-life opportunities are limited by our routines, social circles, work environments, or even where we live. Apps provide a practical solution to this reality. Consider that, on dating apps, people are actively loo… | /r/seduction | 13/11/24 11:05 PM |
| 0 | The Case for Dating AppsIf dating apps are so insanely inferior, why have they gotten me dates when real life has never? In ten years time, they got me all the romantic experience I’ve ever had. Real life hasn’t gotten me anywhere. I haven’t kissed or gone on a date with a woman I’ve initially met in real life. Keep clinging to the romanticized image of meeting women in real life and keep telling yourself that it works best for all men. Go ahead. You’re free to believe that and espouse that rhetoric | /r/seduction | 13/11/24 11:00 PM |
| 3 | The Case for Dating AppsThank you so much! Finally someone on here gives us practical advice instead of pushing the romanticized narratives of cold approach. I myself fall into the description of someone who can’t meet women to date in real life. I’ve used dating apps since I was 18 and I’m 28 now, all my romantic experiences are with women I’ve initially met on apps and I haven’t even kissed a woman I’ve initially met in real life. Real life just never loans itself to meeting women I can date in my case, and I’m so ti… | /r/seduction | 13/11/24 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Fellas, for real, get off the apps. Bizarre irl exampleMy impression as well is that cold approach is for guys that already do decently well with women, who can already meet them in real life, that want to either meet more women or meet women of a higher caliber than what they are accustomed to dating. But desperate, lonely, geeky, thirsty guys will see some guy on the internet talking about cold approach and touting it, and then these desperate guys get their hopes up and try it too, only to fall flat and have their hopes crushed even more. It’s sa… | /r/seduction | 11/11/24 04:13 AM |
| -1 | Fellas, for real, get off the apps. Bizarre irl exampleFinally somebody else says it like it is. If one cannot do well on the apps, it’s foolish to believe one will fare better in real life. If a woman on the apps has thousands of matches and tons of attention on there, how is approaching the same woman in public going to magically increase one’s chances? If she gets attention on the apps, then she gets approached every day by the thirsty, frumpy, desperate guys that read this sub and are gullible enough to think approaching in real life will work. … | /r/seduction | 11/11/24 03:08 AM |
| 2 | Fellas, for real, get off the apps. Bizarre irl exampleIf I think of all the women I’ve met thru apps that I’ve done anything with, none of them I would have approached in real life. I wouldn’t have had enough to go of off to actually do so. Even if I had initially come across them in real life and found them attractive, I wouldn’t have approached them. But I don’t come across dateable women in real life as it is, so I never would have met any of them if it wasn’t for the apps. In my life dating apps are the only way to play as far as meeting women … | /r/seduction | 11/11/24 02:57 AM |
| 9 | Fellas, for real, get off the apps. Bizarre irl exampleNot every man is able to do irl approaches for various reasons. Not every man is able to be in environments conducive to meeting women, for various reasons. The intention to tell guys to meet women in real life is good, but not every man can attain that. It might be my own biases talking, but I myself get really annoyed with the rhetoric that a man ought to “just get off the apps and meet women in real life”. I myself am 28 and to this day I have NEVER dated any women I’ve initially met in real … | /r/seduction | 10/11/24 06:14 PM |
| 2 | What is the Obsession with Cold ApproachesI find it incredibly frustrating when cold approach gets touted as a magic solution for every guy looking to improve his dating life. It may work for some, but not every man is willing to grind thru countless rejections to get good, not every man is extroverted or sociable enough to make cold approach work, not every man has a communication style suited to it, and not every man wants to shuttle himself around town and put himself in crowded places and have to do the often downright socially risk… | /r/seduction | 05/11/24 07:12 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!Theoretically it’s possible to do both, but learning to randomly go up to girls and try to talk to them and expecting to get a date out of it isn’t something that all guys can or should do. Something like that will never not be unpleasant and nerve wracking to me. Nor do I want to drive myself around town to public places just to practice something like that. Learning to approach as you describe doesn’t take my specific situation into account. Especially since I’ve never dated someone I’ve initi… | /r/seduction | 15/10/24 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!I’m not looking for magic pills. I’m not expecting anything to fall into my lap. But I have to adjust what I’m doing according to the reality I have. In my life I don’t have opportunities to meet women organically and this won’t fundamentally change. Meeting women in real life leaves many more things up to chance and being in the right place at the right time. With dating apps at the very least, one has more parameters that can be controlled. So shouldn’t any advice geared towards me be geared t… | /r/seduction | 15/10/24 02:14 AM |
| 0 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!I have completely valid reasons for not wanting to learn cold approach. Why does everyone on here keep being so invalidating of my experiences and pushing this idea of cold approach on me despite me clearly stating numerous times why cold approach isn’t a solution for me? | /r/seduction | 14/10/24 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!Either way trying to meet women in real life and “just going outside” or whatever is no solution. It’s leaving way too many things up to chance. When approaching any woman in real life, you don’t know anything about her, you have nothing to go off of, you don’t know if she’s single or whether or not she has kids (and if a woman has kids it’s a dealbreaker in my eyes), you don’t know if she’s in the mood to talk to whatever random guy is bothering her, etc. There’s way too much at stake and too m… | /r/seduction | 14/10/24 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!But how does one expect anybody to keep going learning to approach if the process is exhausting for him and he gets no results that he can see? In that case, no amount of toughing it out can help. Eventually one would get discouraged and give up. How could I learn to approach when everything about it just seems so nerve wracking and unpleasant to me? Like I said as well, how can anyone think randomly approaching women to get dates is a good idea? You have nothing to go off of and there’s too muc… | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!Well at the very least I have no intention of ever starting a family, nor would I find it preferable to be married as I don’t think I’d want to be with the same woman for the rest of my life unless she was truly exceptional and didn’t lose her looks too much. So at least I don’t have the feeling of time running out for those aspirations as those are aspirations I do not have. As for where I live, I live in a city of a million people. I think that’s a big enough city if anything, but strangely en… | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!Just read that post. I guess it might work for some but trying to do something like that really isn’t going to be fun for me. Like you said I could give some girl a random compliment, sure, but for that to get anywhere more than that I don’t think will happen. Most attractive women you see in public are already spoken for anyway. But really there’s nothing that wouldn’t make the experience nerve wracking for me. And as I say, I don’t like the prospect of randomly approaching someone since you do… | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 07:06 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!No, I’m not approaching women irl at all. I don’t come across dateable women in my day to day life, and I can’t even imagine approaching a random woman in public on my own accord. How could I ever do that when I’ve only ever gotten dates from apps? I just don’t have any frame of reference when it comes to that, and such a situation would be too nerve wracking and suspenseful for it to work | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 06:33 AM |
| -1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!I’m not interested in learning how to cold approach. I don’t want to have to shuttle myself around town just to make a fool of myself in public. How will I even get anywhere if I literally have no frame of reference meeting women in real life and getting a date out of it? I can’t handle situations like that where there’s that much suspense. It’s all just too much pressure and too much uncertainty. At least with apps you can think about what you want to say, and you know the woman is at least loo… | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!Dating apps have still been the only thing that ever gave me any sort of results at all. Real life has gotten me zero dates. For me, meeting a woman in real life and eventually dating her would be a situation that would fundamentally contradict all the established patterns in my dating life so far. Furthermore, I don’t have much faith in trying to overhaul my social life or shuttling myself around town just to “go out and meet people”, nor do I think trying to learn to cold approach would be wor… | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 06:28 AM |
| -1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!With the way things are right now, no longer using dating apps will amount to me giving up on meeting women altogether. If I did that, I would make such little progress that eventually I’ll be driven back to the apps like a recovering alcoholic running back to the bottle. I don’t have opportunities to meet women in real life, nor would it be fruitful for someone like me to attempt learning cold approach. I’m not looking for advice about how to approach in real life or anything like that. All I w… | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 05:58 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!I wouldn’t say it’s exactly working for me. I have to wait very long periods in between legit opportunities, and it’s always hit or miss whether or not the woman in question is actually somebody I’m excited about. But like I said, what am I supposed to do if real life has never gotten me dates? | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!Some might indeed say my situation is not ideal, but nothing has changed the reality of it. It would be nice to have options other than apps, but it’s very unlikely my situation will change fundamentally. I just want to know what I ought to do moving forward with the assumption that the reality I’ve described will persist | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 05:30 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!“Be more social”. lol | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!How would I do that tho if I don’t have experience even getting a date out of any time I’ve initially met a woman in real life? Even if it were just a fling, to be able to pull off something like that would be a big confidence boost. But like I said I’ve never been able to just meet women while traveling like that. In my life, meeting women to date is something that happens only after a very long time of swiping on dating apps. I’ve never been able to just meet somebody very fast and have a flin… | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 04:44 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand how abnormal my situation is. I’m 28m and all my romantic experiences have been with women I’ve first met on apps. To this day I’ve NEVER gone on a date with anyone I’ve first met in real life!How did you manage the flings while traveling? Always wanted to have an experience like that but it always takes me so long to meet women and I’d never be able to meet someone by chance in real life and get a fling out of it so quick. How did you actually do it? | /r/seduction | 13/10/24 04:32 AM |
| 6 | 4 Reasons Approaching Women In Real Life is 10x Better Than Dating AppsSucks you’re getting downvoted by the cold approach mob. In reality, for some guys, they have no business doing cold approach and are better off using apps. I’m 28 and to this day I have NEVER been on a date with a woman I’ve initially met in real life. All my successes have come from apps whether I like it or not, and if it weren’t for online dating there’s a good chance I’d still be a virgin. I can’t even imagine getting anywhere via cold approach, yet many people on this sub have touted it as… | /r/seduction | 12/10/24 11:19 PM |
| 0 | Dealing with long gaps between opportunitiesI do in fact hate the process of finding someone. I don’t really like going out and having to potentially do all these performative social gestures just to make people like me. I hate the initial parts of the dating process and the talking stage or whatever, and all the hoops one has to jump through just to get a date or a relationship. Pretty much nothing about the process of finding someone to date is fun for me. Obviously I enjoy intimacy with women, but I hate the process of finding somebody… | /r/seduction | 09/10/24 09:36 PM |
| 0 | Dealing with long gaps between opportunitiesEven if I went outside more and did more things, it wouldn’t mean that I would necessarily be able to meet dateable women doing those things. I would still be waiting just as long, if not more, between opportunities. Like I said as well, even if somehow I were able to come across somebody worthwhile in real life, I don’t think I’d be able to get a date out of that. Online dating still gives me the best chance, even if it makes me have to put up with a lot. The fact of the matter is, I don’t real… | /r/seduction | 09/10/24 09:17 PM |
| 1 | How can I optimize my results from dating apps?My physique is pretty good since I’ve done weightlifting for several years, but I do think I need better pics | /r/seduction | 02/10/24 11:36 PM |
| 1 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?That’s a good question, not sure if I can answer that concisely | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 07:39 PM |
| 1 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?That’s the problem, I don’t meet dateable women irl. There’s nothing in my life in which I’m meeting women organically. Any time in the past I have initially met women irl whom I thought I could date, within two minutes of meeting them they would casually mention having a boyfriend already. It’s as if them saying that was part of some script they all got. Right now, it’s to my belief that if I somehow met a dateable woman in real life and actually went out with her eventually, it would be a comp… | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 07:35 PM |
| 1 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?Still tho you got that third that didn’t come from online. In my case, the more years go by where I’ve never dated someone I met in person, the weirder it all feels and the less likely it seems that things will change. I’ll be 30 in about a year and a half, and that will be a very strange feeling if I’m in the same situation. I’ll have made it to 30 gone thru all of high school and college and the time after that without ever dating anyone I’ve first met in real life. I don’t know whether or not… | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 07:06 PM |
| 2 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?Well for what it’s worth I don’t really have opportunities to meet dateable women in real life, and even if I came across one in real life I wouldn’t really know how to get a date out of it. Apps have been the only way I’ve been able to make any progress in my dating life at all, even with their obvious shortcomings. I have a very hard time imagining a scenario in which I initially meet a woman in real life and eventually date her. There’s just no frame of reference for that in my head and it’s … | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 08:12 AM |
| 3 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?If I ditch the apps then it’s basically like I’d be giving up on dating entirely. With how things are now they’re my only option | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 07:27 AM |
| 1 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?Idk for what reasons I’m getting matches, but as I said before I might meet up with one or two girls per year from apps. At least that’s how it’s been the last year or two | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 05:35 AM |
| 2 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?I’m telling you bro knowing myself I definitely would not have gotten any dates if it wasn’t for apps | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 02:05 AM |
| 1 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?I mean it in the sense that I would try to chat them up on the apps, but in real life I would not have the know how or the confidence to even say anything | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 01:20 AM |
| 1 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?Like I said, any of the women I’ve ever met up with from apps I never would have talked to at all had I first come across them in real life | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 01:16 AM |
| 2 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?If I haven’t been able to date women I’ve met in real life, how do you think it would be any different if apps didn’t exist? | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 01:15 AM |
| 3 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?I’ve heard about guys that have had professionally done pics on their dating app profiles, but still didn’t get any further. This admittedly makes me nervous | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 01:11 AM |
| 2 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?I think back on all the women from apps that I met up with. Had I first saw them in public or on the street first instead of the app, I would have never talked to any of them. I truly believe that if it wasn’t for apps I’d still be a virgin | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 01:09 AM |
| 6 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?I bet you tell a homeless man to just buy a house too. Then he won’t be homeless anymore right. That comment was literally like telling a clinically depressed person to just cheer up and be happy. Some advice that is lol | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 01:07 AM |
| 2 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?One problem I have tho is since I don’t meet women in my everyday life and I’ve never dated anybody I’ve first met in real life, I can’t imagine a scenario in which I do initially meet a woman irl. My mind just can’t really conceive of that possibly since it’s never happened for me. I keep thinking that since I’ve gotten this far without it he opening that it will never. And even if I met a dateable woman irl I wouldn’t know what to do to get a date out of it since it’s never happened for me lik… | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 01:05 AM |
| 3 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?What did you do as far as pics? | /r/seduction | 29/09/24 12:06 AM |
| 1 | 28m and only ever dated or hooked up with women from dating apps. I’ve never been with anyone I’ve first met organically in real life. Anyone else?How often do you actually meet up with girls from apps? Usually if I’m in my case it’s one girl or two per year. Sounds pretty bad but that’s how it is. Also the longest relationship I’ve ever had was one year. Other than that one nothing has lasted any longer than a month with any woman I’ve done anything with | /r/seduction | 28/09/24 11:31 PM |
| 1 | What to do if you live in a very conservative country?Didn’t they only just make it legal for a man to walk hand in hand in public with his girlfriend in the KSA? I don’t know much about Saudi culture or social norms there, but in any case there are probably other middle eastern nations that aren’t as conservative where one might be more likely to succeed I would imagine | /r/seduction | 24/09/24 03:33 AM |
| 1 | someone help me please, this issue keeps occuringPerhaps spend some time taking any mechanical advantage out of the lift. So try benching close grip, no arch, no leg drive, no feet on the bench. Last one is optional, but at least take the arch and leg drive out and bench with the same grip one might overhead press with. That said, the overhead press is the better lift in my opinion, and I personally do not bench. Also try sets with lower reps, so go heavy and do 2-5 reps per set, and keep pushing those numbers. How fast do you usually progress… | /r/seduction | 27/08/24 03:54 AM |
| 1 | What are some unique ways on how to make her feel special?Are you a troll? | /r/seduction | 16/07/22 05:28 PM |
| 3 | Seducting Cheese LadyHow do you know she's interested? | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 09:32 PM |
| 1 | this sub proves that only 2% of men actually practice daygame consistentlyI've been on a dry spell for a few years, OLD is getting played out | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 07:56 PM |
| 0 | this sub proves that only 2% of men actually practice daygame consistentlyI'm an introverted guy and not really relatable to most people, and also I worry about being seen as some sort of creep for approaching in public. Every girl I've slept with I've met online and I never learned to pull a girls from start to finish irl. Plus with the learning curve being what it is even if I tried I would eventually get discouraged and give up. I'm thoroughly convinced that cold approach isn't for me | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 03:30 AM |
| 1 | this sub proves that only 2% of men actually practice daygame consistentlyI've talked about it in other threads | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 03:12 AM |
| 1 | this sub proves that only 2% of men actually practice daygame consistentlyI certainly don't believe I'd do well with cold approach even if I tried very hard, it just doesn't suit me at all. Yet most people on here have told me that's what I need to be doing | /r/seduction | 11/07/22 02:57 AM |
| 1 | this sub proves that only 2% of men actually practice daygame consistentlyThat's what I think is odd. This sub likes to recommend cold approach as the best method for most guys, but the majority of men will be able to get any good at it. Almost everyone either never tries it or gives up. | /r/seduction | 10/07/22 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI have to find things to do that aren’t a sausage fest. Everybody says that meetup groups and the like is mostly single guys with the same idea. It would be nice to be able to cold approach but I agree it’s the hardest option. But then again, I don’t really have any good options at all | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Unable to settle for women anymore, causing me to miss out a lot.I can relate to this. I've been on a long dry spell and I want to end it the right way. For a while now I've been saying to myself that my next girlfriend has to be better than my last one. Last year I had the opportunity to hook up with three different women, but I never pulled the trigger since I had similar doubts as you, though in hindsight none of those girls would have been that bad at all. Since I'm an introverted guy I don't have many outlets to meet women, and now that apps don't work f… | /r/seduction | 03/07/22 10:30 PM |
| 2 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meMakes sense, it's a bit harder since I'm no longer in college but still doable I think. I agree with what you say about cold approach as well, that's exactly the point I've been trying to make. I can see why I liked the idea of apps, though I've now figured out that I can no longer rely on them | /r/seduction | 02/07/22 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI see. So I should find more of such environs? | /r/seduction | 02/07/22 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Greatest colognes/perfumes in 2022?Mäurer & Wirtz 4711, the original cologne. No need to use anything else | /r/seduction | 02/07/22 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI lift already, it's made me more confident but it hasn't affected my success with women at all | /r/seduction | 02/07/22 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Weight training to be attractive to womenWomen aren't attracted to bigger muscles as much as they are attracted to low bodyfat and abs. From my experience if you lift but don't have those two things girls won't care and will just think you're fat. A powerlifter's physique isn't attractive to most women. Girls don't care how strong you are either, just that you look "toned", however stupid that word is. As Zyzz once said, "When is a girl ever going to ask how much you squat?". I don't train for aesthetics or to attract women, I train be… | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI've heard some say that it took them hundreds of approaches until they got anywhere. Mainly I'm worried about that level of attrition before seeing a result | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meworth a shot | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meCouple times a week i guess | /r/seduction | 30/06/22 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meSounds good, I'll keep doing things like that then. Seems like I should really focus on leaving my house and going places mostly, and not worry about the additional pressure of trying to meet women | /r/seduction | 30/06/22 02:33 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI did also go to an event last weekend, the hindu temple I go to had a mini festival to celebrate the groundbreaking for the new temple. Managed to talk to a few people there as well. Felt a little out of place at first since I was one of the few non-Indians there, but I had a good time and there was free food | /r/seduction | 30/06/22 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI'm not really sure there's any women into those sorts of things. I've never encountered any, neither irl nor online | /r/seduction | 30/06/22 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meBeen talking to him about this for a few weeks, he says perhaps I shouldn’t focus as much on meeting women and right now I’ve put too much pressure on myself. At the same time the year is half over and I don’t think the dry spell will end this year so I feel like I need to do something but I have little idea of what I should be focusing on | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meSo far I’ve been already making small talk with cashiers | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meTrust me, I’d look worse with short hair | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI have talked to therapist about this | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meWouldn’t all the failure make me give up? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI’ve tried to do that but I never can believe the happy ending can actually come. My mind never lets me believe that | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meFirst paragraph sums it up pretty well actually | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meWhat should i do then? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI know i need to change something but none of the options really look that promising. That’s my whole point here, I’m not quite sure what to do or focus on rn | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 06:15 PM |
| 2 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meMaybe I’d try yoga, probably wouldnt do dancing tho since I don’t really like to dance | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meYeah I have no idea why she would do that but I was pissed. I wasn’t seeing that girl long enough for it to have been exclusive, but you’d think a girl would keep her paramours separate from one another at least. I can’t comprehend how she would do that and expect me to be ok with it, in any case that display was a huge sign of disrespect. Are most guys just indifferent to that sort of thing? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meLast time I did that it ended badly. Basically the girl brought the other guy she was seeing to my show for whatever reason(I had no idea about this dude until that point). Idk why she thought that was a good idea but I definitely wasn’t happy. Plus when you invite girls to shows you can’t really interact with them until after anyway | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI’ve learned it’s actually unadvisable to invite girls to your own shows. Not something I’d do anymore | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:47 PM |
| 3 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI know six actually but half of those are classical languages that aren’t spoken natively anymore. Classical languages are easier to learn since you don’t have to actually learn to converse in them, if you memorize a few grammar tables and can read the language with a dictionary then you can say you know it pretty much | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meThat’s really what I want, a better girlfriend than I had last time | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meYeah man it’s overwhelming, especially for someone in the position I am | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meWhat gives you the impression that I don’t want a relationship? Most of the time I feel like I do want one but I think there’s not very many girls that are actually compatible with me. Sometimes tho I wonder if subconsciously I’m merely trying to live up to a social norm | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI do want to end the dry spell on the right terms, that’s kind of my goal. I’m not going to end this dry spell with some girl that’s not as good as my last girlfriend | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:01 PM |
| 2 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meOk I’ll try | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI have heard good things about czechkia, never been there tho | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meCould do something like that when I go to Germany again. Every so often I go there since a lot of my relatives are there, I speak the language too and since I’m a citizen so I can stay for as long as I want | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:54 PM |
| 2 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI got that one already | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meAll my life I’ve been pretty risk averse for whatever reason, which is another problem | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI tie my hair back fairly often actually | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI just have this weird aversion to making initial advances on girls irl for some reason | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meWhat did you do to change? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meIt’s never happened to me and I don’t know anyone who’s met their SO thru such channels either | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meTo have better intent with women I’m interested in I need to meet more women in general, right now there’s none on my radar | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meYou’re right, I shouldn’t put the added pressure of trying to meet women on myself | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meFor what it’s worth I am pretty good at recognizing patterns and analyzing what I’ve done in the past in my life and what I could have done differently | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI need to find a way to shut those feelings up but nothing’s worked thus far | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meWhat attractive women are going out with socially awkward weirdos? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meProblem is I can’t tell my mind otherwise, I’m locked into this way of thinking that I have. My mind considers any positive thinking to just be cope. With online dating it was the only way I could meet girls but I hardly get matches anymore, hence why I say that river’s dried up. I could maybe expand my social circle but I can’t count on meeting women thru social circle game, it feels just as daunting to me as cold approach in some respects | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meSo i should focus on mindset for now? So far I haven’t been able to convince myself that there can be different, positive outcomes to what I’ve already mentioned | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:25 PM |
| 2 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meReally? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI want to get this handled but I’m confused about what I should do; any option I consider seems like a long shot so it’s overwhelming for me | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meHow much success have you had? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 12:24 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meYou’re right, I can’t count on friends setting me up with someone. That’s literally never come close to happening in my life, I don’t think it really happens to anyone at all actually | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 12:23 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI’m already in therapy. Another concern is even if i met women thru hobbies I wouldn’t know how to pursue that completely irl. I feel like I’d get no dates even in an environment that’s mostly women | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meWorth a shot | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meOn what exactly? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 11:42 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meTo me all the negativity is just me being honest with myself, whenever I try to think more positively I always come to believe that I’m just giving myself platitudes. I do think I need more guy friends, right now I only have one friend I hang out with on a regular basis | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI went to a bar with a friend last week, that’s one thing I guess | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI’m open to trying my luck abroad but I’m not quite sure how | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 11:02 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI’ve always heard to approach at the gym is unadvisable so idk if I’d try that. Especially not at the gym I go to which is a small weightlifting gym where everyone knows each other. If I trained at a commercial gym at least it would be a bunch more random girls but even in that case I wouldn’t try it | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meHow long did it take you to get good? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meYeah I mean at the end of the day I guess there’s guys worse off than me who found success. If I actually got a number from cold approach I would know how to go from there, it’s just making the initial advance that’s the real sticking point | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI think I need a lot of work tho | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:51 AM |
| 0 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI’m not trying for 9s and 10s, they’re more trouble than they’re worth. 7s and 8s is more what I’m looking for. Not trying to date instagram models | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:50 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meNot really into dancing at all | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:48 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meIt also seems like it’s almost only guys that are into the same things as I am. But if I met a girl thru hobbies somehow I wouldn’t be able to really act in it anyway. I appear to have some kind of aversion to making initial advances on girls irl. None of my past hookups ever happened that way so I never really learned that skill | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meThat’s a good point, the whole process seems really daunting right now tho. I’m not really sure what I should focus on at the moment | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI’ve done martial arts in the past. Aikido when I was a kid and when I was in college I dabbled in fencing but it mostly consisted of reading old books about it that I found online. After I started lifting tho I got hooked on that instead. I think I could learn Judo or something tho, that’d be interesting | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:41 AM |
| 2 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meMaybe I should focus on that, but I feel like at the same time my dating life is kinda passing me by. I’ve never been content with it, I’ve always had problems with this part of life | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:38 AM |
| 6 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meSo far the classical languages I know are Latin, Old Norse, and Sanskrit. I agree I would ideally need a girl who’s more into intellectual types, but they really do seem hard to come by. If you say they tend to be quieter then that works against me too. Most of the girls I’ve been with have been somewhat extroverted and also made it pretty obvious they were into me, so with quieter, less easy girls it would be more difficult to make a move, especially irl. But then again, idk where I’d even find… | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:35 AM |
| 2 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI’d say playing bass is what I do best, but right now my band hasn’t been playing any shows since we’re between drummers right now. It’s essentially become a studio only project at this point | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:30 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI have some online dating success, just not anymore | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 10:25 AM |
| 4 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI will not cut my hair short. Plenty of guys with long hair have girlfriends | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:59 AM |
| 3 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI'll check out that channel. I've done things like try and make small talk to cashiers as well. I'm not sure how I would have done in the days before apps. On one hand the apps no longer work for me, but on the other hand if it wasn't for apps I would still be a virgin. Then again, the dry spell has gone on so long that I feel like a virgin once more | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meYeah I know that but every option seems like kind of a dead end | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:53 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI honestly look better with the mustache, I've tried going without but I look too young without one. I can't grow a full beard but if I could I'd try growing one. One thing I wouldn't do is cut my hair really short, I'm a rock n roller and it wouldn't look right. It's at least shorter than it used to be. Right now it's a little past shoulder length but a couple years back it was more than halfway to waist length. One reason why I split up with my last gf is because she tried to get me to cut my … | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:53 AM |
| 2 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meYou still initially met her irl tho, I've never hooked up with any girls I first met irl | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:50 AM |
| 4 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meWhat I mean is that I'm introverted, somewhat socially awkward, and just kinda weird. I don't really fit the conventional mold of what women want in this respect. Don't they want more extroverted, social guys that have a lot of friends and go out often? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:49 AM |
| 0 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI don't think I'm that unattractive, but I don't have a very conventional sense of style either. I have long hair and a mustache and I dress in a more vintage style, so my whole look is more niche anyway and has less mass appeal I think. I've seen guys less attractive than me or skinny pipsqueaks who don't lift have more success with women than I do | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:46 AM |
| 3 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meIt's hard to make friends after college. Plus most of the time I like to be by myself, it just feels peaceful that way. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:41 AM |
| 3 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meAs I keep saying I've never pulled a girl irl from start to finish, I never learned how to do so at the age when I was supposed to. I have no confidence in my ability to meet women irl. At least with apps you know that the girls on there are looking to meet someone (if they're not bots), and they won't be startled or offended if you start talking to them. I'm introverted and somewhat socially awkward, I really can't force myself to approach irl. It would most likely make girls uncomfortable, or … | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI know the remedy is action, but I'm not necessarily convinced cold approach is the best action | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:34 AM |
| 4 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI say in the post why I can't rely on social circle or hobbies | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:29 AM |
| 4 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meThat's the problem, I haven't found a viable way to do that. I wish the apps actually worked and weren't just a huge racket | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:24 AM |
| 7 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meYou really think so? I guess even if I got numbers most of them would be flakes in the end anyway | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:21 AM |
| 3 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI'll look into it at least, surprised I've never thought of that before | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:19 AM |
| 5 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meHence why I shouldn't count on meetup groups. For a guy like me tho cold approach is unlikely to have a reward that's worth the effort. I don't think there's really a good answer for me except pray that the right girl comes along and rely on sheer luck, but I'll die of old age before that happens | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:18 AM |
| 5 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meI've thought about it but as I said it seems antithetical to my own nature and idk how I'd make it work. The learning curve is so steep that it would take me years to even get a number, and I doubt any dates I would get from it would be any more attractive than what I'm used to getting from apps, which usually weren't anything to write home about. Maybe there's reasons why I should try cold approach, but is the juice really worth the squeeze? I'm really not sure it would be in the end | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:15 AM |
| 25 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to mehmm never thought of language exchange actually, but that's a decent idea. Only thing though is I've only ever pulled girls from apps, trying fully irl is uncharted territory for me. When I was in college I never went out with any girls from class, for example | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:12 AM |
| 82 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meWeightlifting, playing music, instrument collecting, learning languages (especially ancient ones), reading my religion's scriptures, weed | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Too many incels overtaking the forum ?I don't really think that helps | /r/seduction | 25/06/22 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Too many incels overtaking the forum ?At the very least I don't pay for them anymore, it's exactly like video games that have a pay-to-win type scheme. Idk how I'll transition to approaching irl when I've used apps as a crutch this whole time. I'm a really introverted guy so approaching kinda works against my nature | /r/seduction | 25/06/22 08:40 PM |
| 3 | How important is a good physique for game?Girls only care if you lift if you have abs. If you don't have abs to them it's like you don't lift. So if you're naturally lean and have abs you'll attract more attention, and if you aren't you won't. I've gotten less attention from women after I started lifting than before, but I'm not naturally lean so girls probably just think I'm fat | /r/seduction | 25/06/22 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Too many incels overtaking the forum ?Not saying it would devalue the stock, but maybe one of the mods has such loyalties and couldn't stand to see someone dissing the apps lol. I agree 100% with the post you made the other day, but for someone like me the apps have literally been my only option. I want to stop using apps but I don't think I'll ever be able to approach irl. The apps are poison but I have nowhere else to go to even try my luck | /r/seduction | 25/06/22 08:30 PM |
| 3 | Too many incels overtaking the forum ?That was a good post too, but the mods were like "shut it down" for some reason. Perhaps one of them has stock in Match Group or something? | /r/seduction | 25/06/22 08:23 PM |
| 1 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.Idk how I'd even start, it seems approaching for real is such a long way away | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 01:36 AM |
| 1 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.That's a good idea as well. Even if I just consistently go out tho eventually the pain of not approaching may become too much to bear. That's kinda what I'm counting on, that if I go enough times I'll be compelled to approach | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.I feel like right now I should just concentrate on going out at least once a week, then I can worry about approaching once I make that a habit | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:56 AM |
| 1 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.I feel like it'll take such a long time before I can actually bring myself to approach. Right now it seems like it'll take forever | /r/seduction | 22/06/22 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?The original music my band plays isn't necessarily what most girls are into, but at our shows we've always gotten the crowds to dance while playing covers. That said for the past couple years my band has been relegated to a studio-only project since we're having a hard time finding a drummer. Back in the earlier days of the band I would dress up more for gigs but when we started going on tour my stage clothes became more practical and less flashy since I wanted to wear stuff that would stand up … | /r/seduction | 20/06/22 08:33 PM |
| 2 | Women with "Woke" or "Toxic Feminism" mentality - Is it worth the effort to date these type of women?Any overt display of SJW or radical left ideology from a woman is grounds for immediate disqualification as a prospective partner in my book. One of the things I really liked about my last girlfriend is that she never brought up politics at all. I can’t stand people who make all these manufactured political ideologies their identity. At the end of the day the SJW thing is what the asshole politicians want people to believe since it distracts them from the real issues that matter. They want peopl… | /r/seduction | 18/06/22 04:57 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Would French girls find me attractive if I committed a crime like Ted Bundy or David Berkowitz as a short (5'7.5") Asian-American guy??wtf did I just read? | /r/seduction | 16/06/22 02:22 AM |
| 2 | Does smoking weed get you laid?Smoking weed is something I always did with pretty much every girl I've been with. Normally I'll bring a couple joints to share but usually she'll have her own as well. My last gf used to roll me blunts every time I would go over to her house lol. If I'm going to smoke with anyone tho the ideal situation is if both parties have some to contribute. If she's cool, she'll provide weed in addition to what you bring. It's good courtesy to always bring some of your own, so I would stick to that rule. | /r/seduction | 14/06/22 10:34 PM |
| 1 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.It's weird because plenty of girls have told me that I look sorta like Robert Plant, who of course was a huge chad in his prime. So yeah it's probably not my looks that's the problem, I think it's my own psychology that is | /r/seduction | 14/06/22 10:02 PM |
| 1 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.It really is hard tho when I've always relied on apps | /r/seduction | 13/06/22 05:06 PM |
| 1 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.Thought about that but I don't think I'd do it, there's a good chance that would make me feel worse | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 09:45 PM |
| 3 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.In the past I was kinda blackpilled, some of that thinking has stuck with me tho | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 06:09 PM |
| 1 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.It's a legitimate concern | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 05:34 PM |
| 2 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.Scripted openers would sound scripted tho. Wouldn't be natural at all | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 04:37 PM |
| 1 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.Really I get the feeling that believing I can would be a comforting lie that I'd tell myself, there's no way I can truthfully believe that | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 04:36 PM |
| 3 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.What sort of tricks? I think I'd have to approach at least 1000 women before I got any leads, but knowing myself I'd give up long before then | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 04:35 PM |
| 2 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.I don't really feel scared but it feels like there's something blocking me from approaching. In my mind I think I'd just be bothering any girl I would try to approach. I worry that something will go wrong and the girl will take her phone out, snap a pic of me, and use it to shame me on the internet or something. With all the social conditioning in society today I doubt many women would be receptive of me approaching them, I have a gut feeling it would scare them or make them uncomfortable. | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 04:33 PM |
| 3 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.I already hit the gym regularly but in my experience girls don't care if you lift. There's been a lot of girls in my life I've sort of admired from afar that were dating skinny pipsqueaks or guys that obviously didn't lift. I've seen guys much worse looking than I am with a hot girl on their arm. It makes me ask myself what's wrong with me. | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 04:26 PM |
| 1 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.Not much really but it's all so daunting. I only ever learned how to meet women via apps. During adolescence I never learned how to engage women irl like you're supposed to at that age. In my life I never felt like I was getting the results I should be getting. Despite the fact that I'm decent looking and a fairly interesting guy it took me until my third year of college to lose my virginity, at the old age of 21. It should NOT have taken that long. Experience wise I have about as much as the av… | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 04:23 PM |
| 1 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.Idk if night game would really be my thing, I don't like going out much and usually I go to bed early every night. Daygame would be better I think but as I said it's gonna take years to get anywhere, and by that time it'll be too late and I'll have lost my looks | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 04:09 PM |
| 2 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.I get some matches on dating apps but not as many as before. Even if I get matches nowadays the conversation goes nowhere. I used to get more matches and even dates from apps but no longer. As for what I look like imagine a cross between Blake from Workaholics and Kurt Vile, that's a good approximation of how I look, and I have long blonde hair and a mustache. People tell me I look like I could have been in a rock band circa 1968. I'm 6' tall and semi jacked but I don't have abs. I'm not ugly, b… | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 04:07 PM |
| 3 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.I kinda know what to say but I never really can approach. I always feel what I'm doing is socially unacceptable and that people will think I'm weird. Unfortunately with all these social conditioning psyops by the SJWs and mainstream media I feel like few, if any women would want to be approached by me. I'm not ugly but I don't have the look most girls want either. In any case I'm not sure cold approach will work | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 04:01 PM |
| 3 | 26, been on a dry spell almost 3 years. This year is half over already. I don't think my situation will change by year's end.In a lot of respects I don't really know what to do. I have this vague goal about learning to approach irl but I think it'll be years before I'm able at this rate | /r/seduction | 12/06/22 03:47 AM |
| 2 | Are Girls Attracted To Men With Long Hair?I have long hair myself, the last time I had short hair was middle school which was over a decade ago. In my experience some girls have liked it, but at the same time I feel like I'm closing myself off to a lot of women since many don't really prefer that. It's like how guys that are jacked usually don't do as well with women as some think since it doesn't have as much mass appeal. Pretty much all girls like skinny guys, but fewer like the ones that are either jacked or fat. With hair length I f… | /r/seduction | 11/06/22 05:38 PM |
| 3 | Anyone else been in a very noticeable drought the last year or so?I've noticed that as well, so much so that I'm going to phase out apps almost entirely. I want to learn how to approach irl but it's much more daunting | /r/seduction | 04/06/22 05:07 PM |
| 5 | Seduction 101: Prologue Part 1 - The State of SedditPook, is that you? | /r/seduction | 03/06/22 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Approach anxiety drills/beating approach anxietythat's a good point | /r/seduction | 02/06/22 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Approach anxiety drills/beating approach anxietyMaybe I shouldn't post here again until I do something like that | /r/seduction | 02/06/22 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Approach anxiety drills/beating approach anxietyI guess I'll start doing some of those drills and going from there, it'll be a long time until I'm ready to actually approach but I need to see it through | /r/seduction | 02/06/22 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Approach anxiety drills/beating approach anxietyHence why I used the word "yet" in the first place. I think I said before it's the initial contact that I haven't been able to do but I think I'll be fine after that if I actually get a number. I've been able to set up dates enough times after first meeting girls online and I know how that process all goes. It's literally just approaching irl that's tripping me up | /r/seduction | 02/06/22 02:00 AM |
| 3 | Approach anxiety drills/beating approach anxietyI know I do and it all seems daunting as I've said before. Right now trying to cold approach outright is something I wouldn't be able to do yet so I have to focus on working up until I'm actually able to. I don't think my dry spell will end this year but I have to do something | /r/seduction | 02/06/22 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Any regular weed smokers here?I usually go for girls who also smoke; my last girlfriend used to roll blunts for me every time I visited her | /r/seduction | 29/05/22 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Is Good Looking Loser's approach anxiety program legit? Anyone tried it?What you described seems like the logical thing to do. When I used GLL's advice to lose my virginity I didn't necessarily follow it to the letter either | /r/seduction | 29/05/22 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Is Good Looking Loser's approach anxiety program legit? Anyone tried it?I'll keep doing it, only just started but there's this kinda cute cashier at my local grocery store that I've made small talk with once or twice. I figure I need to get used to talking to women more in any context | /r/seduction | 28/05/22 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Is Good Looking Loser's approach anxiety program legit? Anyone tried it?Is there anything that worked better for you? | /r/seduction | 28/05/22 10:38 PM |
| 2 | Is Good Looking Loser's approach anxiety program legit? Anyone tried it?What would you suggest instead? | /r/seduction | 28/05/22 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Is Good Looking Loser's approach anxiety program legit? Anyone tried it?I've taken to small talk with cashiers already, so far that's just about the only step I've done. Shouldn't expect to get any numbers out of that tho | /r/seduction | 28/05/22 07:52 PM |
| 5 | It's depressing to me that oral is much less performed on women than it's performed on men and not because of male selfishness, but because men don't value female genitalia.What's with these kind of troll posts that have been popping up on this sub as of late? | /r/seduction | 28/05/22 01:31 AM |
| 4 | how to boost my elo score on tinder?It's like a claw machine, they have software in them so they can be programmed to have only a certain percentage of wins out of the total games played. Dating apps are a racket, they're nothing but a huge scam exploiting and monetizing people's loneliness. I'm never paying for apps again | /r/seduction | 28/05/22 01:28 AM |
| 2 | how to boost my elo score on tinder?That's $360 a year | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 09:49 PM |
| 1 | What should I focus on right now?I think it comes from always relying on apps to initiate interactions, I never learned how to do it without | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 01:51 AM |
| 1 | What should I focus on right now?I guess you're right about that last bit. It's just the initial interaction irl that's the hurdle for me, once I get the number it's no different than having gotten the number from a girl on an app | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 01:04 AM |
| 1 | What should I focus on right now?I still thing it's going to take a very long time before I'll be ready to approach at all | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 12:28 AM |
| 2 | What should I focus on right now?Sounds good, at the very least even if I don't meet girls there it's good for networking, my band is still looking for a drummer | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 12:19 AM |
| 2 | What should I focus on right now?Hmm I'm more of a psychedelic rock guy but going to shows may be a good idea. I've been to blues jams at a local bar but it's all old guys there except for me. | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 12:05 AM |
| 1 | What should I focus on right now?It's hard to get rid of them | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 11:55 PM |
| 1 | What should I focus on right now?I feel like I'd give up after the first 10. My frustration tolerance is really low, it's always been that way | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 11:48 PM |
| 1 | What should I focus on right now?I'd like to start approaching but I've never been able to bring myself to do it. With where I'm at now I can't imagine getting any numbers from it | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 11:45 PM |
| 1 | 26M and a virginWhich ones? | /r/seduction | 25/05/22 07:31 PM |
| 1 | I suffer from severe depression. I literally do nothing most days but sleep and scroll YouTube, twitter, Reddit, etc... I don't have anything interesting in my life currently to the point that I contemplate suicide almost weekly but somehow I easily get women.Calling fakes on this one | /r/seduction | 23/05/22 11:04 PM |
| 2 | Should i date a girl I find average?I personally am more attracted to the kind of girls you describe, the sort that you look at and think "she's kinda cute". If I were in your situation I would go ahead with it | /r/seduction | 23/05/22 06:02 PM |
| 2 | What's Your Current Goals In Regards To Dating/Women?End my dry spell and get a better girlfriend than my last one | /r/seduction | 23/05/22 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?Never thought I'd encounter one of those types on this sub. Don't they have other things to do, like watch their girlfriends get fucked? | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 11:02 PM |
| 1 | What daygame systems would work well for a hard-case introvert beginner?Makes sense thanks | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 06:18 PM |
| 1 | A mental paradoxCool I'll take a look at those | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 12:25 AM |
| 1 | A mental paradoxAny specific resources/systems I could use? | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 11:44 PM |
| 1 | A mental paradoxI can't go into this with any expectations, from what I've heard one number for every 100-200 approaches is considered good. Considering the problems I have I think I'd be lucky to have one number for every 500 | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 05:26 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueYeah at this point any little thing I do would be better than nothing | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 04:42 PM |
| 1 | A mental paradoxI want to do so but idk how I'd bring myself to do it | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 04:34 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueI don't like to dance really tho, gonna find something else | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 04:33 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueOk, so I should focus on just getting out there and not concern myself with trying to approach just yet? I think that's a good way to start but this dry spell has gone one now for a very long time. Then again I need to do a lot of things before I'm remotely comfortable approaching at all. I hope I can find social events that appeal to me, it feels like it's going to take a lot for me to actually pry myself out of the house for once. | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 03:24 AM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueOne thing that just came to my mind is that it's be the initial stages of game that give me the most trouble. In the past I would always compensate by using apps but that's not an option anymore. If I can just get past the trouble I have with the initial approach and number close I think I should be OK, unless I mess something up profoundly. My text game is pretty good and any time I've been with a girl physical escalation has never really made me nervous and has always felt natural. It's always… | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 02:53 AM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueQuite frankly I don't know how to talk myself out of this mindset. Every time I've tried I've always reverted back to the same. Very naturally I gravitate to more cynical lines of thinking | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 01:37 AM |
| 2 | A mental paradoxI'm a member of a gym anyway, it's a very small community and there's a few people there I talk to when I see them. I'm a recent convert to Hinduism, but I wouldn't expect to meet any eligible women at temple. The one I mainly go to is an ISKCON temple and that sect usually frowns upon sex outside of marriage. I'm not an official member of that organization tho, I just go to that temple because they have good lectures there sometimes. I'm also white and idk how many Indian women like white guys … | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 10:40 PM |
| 1 | A mental paradoxWhich books? | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 10:32 PM |
| 2 | A mental paradoxI don't believe I can drop being introverted, it's hard-wired man | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 10:14 PM |
| 1 | A mental paradoxHow do I get a better understanding of female nature then? | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 10:11 PM |
| 1 | A mental paradoxHow did you make yourself do that in the end? Right now someone would have to hold a gun to my head pretty much. How long did it take you? | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 10:10 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueAt the end of the day I'm not a very social person, I'm honestly not sure how much I can improve. Idk what events I'd do still, to go out anywhere I'd really have to force myself to leave the house. That's what I keep getting at, wanting to improve my dating life is kind of a paradox when most of the time I prefer to be alone anyway. Even if I do all the right things and land a girl I actually like she probably would find my lifestyle and interests boring. Any attractive girl wants a normal, soc… | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 04:28 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueWhoops guess I was thinking about something else someone told me. As for social events I go to the blues jams at a local bar sometimes and play bass but it's all old guys. | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 03:22 AM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueA little bit but it doesn't feel like it's making a difference. The closest thing to approaching I've done is making small talk with the cute cashier I often see working at my local grocery store, but to do daygame for real seems lightyears away still. At the end of the day I'll always be the semi-loner I innately am | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 03:16 AM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueSo the real problem is something else? | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 02:15 AM |
| 1 | How to fix social retardation?Girls don't care if you lift. When will a girl ever ask you how much you squat? | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 02:10 AM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueIf I could get down to 20% I'd be happy. But yeah girls only care about abs. I can never hope to have abs tho, genetically I can't so there's nothing I can do. Perhaps get liposuction? | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 02:01 AM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueRSD tyler is one such example I can think of, he still pulls it off somehow | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 01:07 AM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueMost women would probably find my lifestyle boring anyway. I eat right, stick to my routies and sleep on time as you say, and as I was saying in another comment on this thread I'm a semi-loner and a homebody, most of the things I like to do are solitary and don't involve other people. I'm not the super social guy with a lot of friends who goes out all the time that most attractive women expect the men they date to be. But I'm also not into nerd culture at all and I barely play videogames, so I d… | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 09:45 PM |
| 2 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueYeah man I hate hearing that stereotype, it hasn't been my experience at all. In the past it actually had a negative impact on me psychologically. I had heard all the stories about the alleged sexual exploits of the rock n rollers of old; but there I was, 20 years old, in college, arguably the best looking member of the hottest local band in town, and somehow at the time I was still a virgin. I would be walking around town with my hair all huge wearing my flared trousers and floral shirts lookin… | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 09:17 PM |
| 3 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueI play guitar and bass and I've been in the same band for eight years. Been on tour twice. That stereotype isn't true at all and I'm absolutely sick of hearing it from people, most of the musicians I know don't have any more luck with women than the average man. It isn't 1969 anymore, it's not the summer of love, Woodstock is over. Had I lived back then it may have been different for me but even nowadays for some reason people falsely assume that if you're a musician you get a lot of women. The … | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 09:03 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueI'm in the midwest | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 08:02 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueI don't train with the intention of seeking women's approval. Those who solely train for such reasons are losers. The reason I train is just because I like it and want to see how strong I can get. That said, I thought it would help with women somewhat, but it really doesn't | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 07:40 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueWhen I was in college I tried to talk to girls in class but it never went anywhere. The few times in real life where women have conveyed an obvious interest in me it was almost always ones I found unattractive or not my type. I think those sorts of women gravitate to me because they might find me more accessible since I'm not the outgoing social type of guy that attractive girls like and because of that they think they have a chance. One time I did luck out and met this girl at one of my band's … | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 07:36 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueI'm not really looking to meet girls in clubs or anything, not sure if I'd find what I'm looking for there. Meeting girls thru shared interests is probably also out of the question, from my experience the only people who like the same things as me are men. The problem is I don't have the social qualities, interests, and lifestyle that normal, healthy, attractive women expect in the men they date. I'm going to have a hard time no matter what. Even if I were a rich, famous musician and my band was… | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 07:22 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueIt's the social situations part that affects me as well. I'm an introverted homebody semi-loner who doesn't really like to go out very much and prefers to spend most of his time alone. It's almost a paradox that I want more success with women when most of the time I actually don't really like interacting with people much and I spend most of my free time in my apartment reading and smoking weed. I also feel like if I did get leaner and improved my appearance it would still be mostly unattractive … | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 07:02 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueBeen on a slight deficit for a couple months | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 06:59 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueMy shoulders and traps look pretty good now, and I have a lot less of a gut than I did two years ago. I used to weigh around 110 kg but now I'm at about 96. To try and get to below 20% bf seems impossible for me, I'd have to meticulously plan every aspect of my diet and count calories and all that crap and I'm not willing to micromanage things to that much of an extent. My eating habits are very good right now as it is. I don't eat processed foods, white flour, white sugar, soy products, high fr… | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 06:42 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueI do the olympic lifts now, my powerlifting phase was a couple years ago when I still believed what Rippetoe says about training. Nowadays I'm much wiser than that. I'm not fat but I've never been naturally that lean. To get to below 20% bodyfat I'd have to work harder than what it's worth, my body just isn't designed to be that it seems. I'm 1.825 m tall and 96 kg, I'd be content if I got to a little under 90 kg. Used to weigh closer to 110 tho. Lately people have said that I look leaner and fo… | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | I've gotten far less action after I started going to the gym than before I trained. How common is this? How many of you have experienced this? I don't believe the stereotype that women prefer guys who lift is trueI don't think I could ever get to below 20% bodyfat | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 06:26 PM |
| 1 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionSquats, presses, and some sort of pulls are the bread and butter. Dips too of course | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 02:42 AM |
| 1 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionI always had big shoulders and traps even when I didn't lift, and I find that I build muscle quite easily so there may be some truth to that. Also naturally I have very good overhead strength, back when I still did overhead press instead of push presses or jerks I was able to get the numbers in that lift up pretty good. If I lose the remaining midsection fat that I have then I'll have a v-taper. The midsection fat is the biggest flaw in my physique but for the past six months or so I've slowly a… | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 03:39 PM |
| 1 | What are some small things I can do so I can gradually become more comfortable with approaching/talking to/flirting with women irl? I feel like I'm not ready to start approaching outrightOk that makes sense. I'll try that, hopefully it goes well | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 03:33 PM |
| 1 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionI was born in Germany but I grew up in the US and still live there. I'm a citizen of both countries but I usually describe myself as an ethnic German living in the states. I also have Anglo-Norman ancestry on my mother's side tho so more accurately I'm of German, English and Scandinavian extraction. My height is 1.825 m weight is around 96 kg or so. At my heaviest back in 2020 I was a little over 110 kg, still have a bit of a gut but it's going away. I inherited the build of the men on my father… | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 03:26 PM |
| 2 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionI have jacked shoulders but I don't think girls care. No girls have ever specifically complemented me on my physique or how jacked I look. For some reason most girls I've been with have complimented me about the shape of my nose, I have no idea why but for some reason I've gotten that a lot. That and how my hair looks but I'm never surprised when they say that. That said I don't really train for aesthetics, my lifting program consists of the olympic lifts, pulls, squats, and dips. I always viewe… | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 02:51 PM |
| 1 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionAt the end of the day girls only care about abs | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 02:30 PM |
| 1 | What are some small things I can do so I can gradually become more comfortable with approaching/talking to/flirting with women irl? I feel like I'm not ready to start approaching outrightI've been in a dry spell for over two years now. I don't see it ending soon, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the rest of my 20s end up like this. I can't just go out and start approaching, I really wish it were that simple but for me it isn't. I need to take small steps and maybe one day I'll be ready. Or maybe I'm not cut out for this and I should stop posting on here and not get my hopes up | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 02:17 PM |
| 3 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionExactly bro, to lift solely to get attention from women is a pretty lame reason if you ask me | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 01:47 PM |
| 4 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionThe difference is you got laid plenty already. For the average man who seldom gets any action, if at all, what you experienced will not happen to him | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 12:31 PM |
| 2 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionYeah exactly I think one reason is that before I started lifting I was in a more desperate mindset and thought I should take what I could get. Now that I'm more attractive I've wanted to go out with higher quality women, but I'm too hot for the ugly girls and not hot enough for the attractive ones. I think due to a number of factors my dating life is a lost cause, some people are too different from everybody else to find the right person for them and not everyone is cut out for this sort of thin… | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 12:25 PM |
| 2 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionI'm just glad I'm not the only one. I don't really feel cheated or anything either, going into this I knew full well it would happen that way. Lifting really helped my mental state but I really wonder why I've gotten less action since taking it up as a hobby. I'm more attractive than ever but I hardly get any tinder matches anymore, and the ones I do get are always another dead end or a bot or some girl trying to sell me something. On top of that I have trouble engaging women irl since I didn't … | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 12:15 PM |
| 3 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionThe bottom line is if you have trouble getting girls when you don't lift, you probably will still have trouble when you do. I feel like the guys who saw their dating lives become better after lifting were fairly good with women before anyway, and working out merely got them more consistent dates or women that were a notch or two above what they would normally get. For most guys tho it isn't realistic to expect any improvement in your love life just because you go to the gym. It isn't like those … | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 12:01 PM |
| 1 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionOne thing is I'm not naturally lean, I haven't been below 20% bodyfat since high school and I don't think I'll ever get there again | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 11:57 AM |
| 24 | My Experience With Working Out and Its Effect on SeductionFrom my experience the benefits of lifting are mostly mental. Sure you can change your physique but at the end of the day girls don't care if you lift. Just look at all the women going out with really skinny guys or dudes who have a dad bod or whatever it's called. In my case I got the same caliber of mediocre women after I started lifting as before. In fact, since I've started working out I've gotten less action. I started about three and a half years ago but I haven't had sex in over two years… | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 02:19 AM |
| 6 | Daygame is a magnet to fun girlsCalling fakes on this one myself | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?That's a good point. I still haven't figured out where to meet women, or how to approach them. There's been a big push by the sjws and mainstream media to vilify cold approach so I worry about that as well. I spent my entire formative years a semi-loner and approaching women is something I never learned when I was younger and it was still the time when I was supposed to learn it. | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 12:43 AM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?I have the same problem with belly fat but in the past few weeks it's started go away more, I attribute it to not drinking. A few times in my life I've met women thru friends but that was a long time ago and I never got anywhere with those at all. Then again I didn't really try. In my youth I never learned to engage women with romantic intent in real life. I've always been behind with relationships/sex, my first kiss came at 19 and I didn't lose my virginity until nearly two years later. I was i… | /r/seduction | 15/05/22 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?According to my weightlifting coach one should mainly use creatine when trying to gain weight, so he told me to stay away from it. As for supplements I take a few, I follow Bill Starr's advice about them. Good choice with the cod liver oil and vitamin d, those two are arguably the most important things you can take. I've sometimes had luck with online dating but a lot of the women I've met on there weren't really much to write home about, not really the sort I'd date or tell my friends about. No… | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?Perhaps you're correct. I just thought she was kinda cute but yeah there's plenty of women out there that I could pursue in earnest instead. Even though I've only pulled an actually hot girl a handful of times I've slept with better looking women than this one. Maybe I'll keep it at small talk and use this interaction to practice merely talking to women in any sense. I still don't have the confidence or the know-how to approach in the manner this sub usually describes, I need to work on that som… | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?Yeah I can see why some would would get the wrong vibe from such a word. I should have seen it coming, no matter what you write on the internet someone is bound to take offense. I wasn't looking for special techniques, it's just the context of such an interaction would be different than talking to girls on the street or at some event. Most flirting I've done in my life has been via text, and irl I've only flirted with women whom I initially engaged online or thru text. In a chekout line time to … | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 09:24 PM |
| 2 | Are cashiers even worth it?As Pook says, getting the girl is not the success. I'm fully aware women aren't prizes to be won. Like I said I'm not expecting a whole lot out of this interaction, I just want to see how far it will go. If it goes no further than mere small talk then so be it, I won't feel bad | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?The low carb for extended periods messing with testosterone is true from my personal experience. Went to the doctor for a checkup when I had been on it for over a year and I was quite shocked by the bloodwork that came back. It's better now tho, and I've noticed easier gains recently as well since I started eating carbs again. In hindsight I was on such a diet for longer than I should have been, for over a year I had no grain or carb-heavy foods of any kind. Now that I think about it no wonder m… | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?Very good, you got a good program in the gym too? I myself had success with low carb diet, but after a few months my metabolism slowed down and I reintroduced carbs to an extent. I still don't eat white flour or refined carbs but I drink milk and eat rice which gives me enough for the day. The low carb diet was a good start but after I reintroduced carbs to a limited degree I've actually gotten even leaner. As long as the carbs are a good source and not consumed in excess they'll give you all th… | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Are cashiers even worth it?I guess I could use a different word, I was kinda using it half jokingly anyway | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?I never implied that it was those features specifically that made me decent looking, I was merely describing my own appearance after saying that. Perhaps you misread what I was actually saying. I meant those as two separate complete thoughts, hence why there was a semicolon between those clauses | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?So I'm a racist because I say I have blonde hair and green eyes? Lol ok believe what you want but that's a bit of a stretch, there is literally nothing wrong with having blonde hair or being white. I wouldn't be surprised if you're white yourself but you're saying all this crap anyway. Go back to drinking your soymilk, I bet you can't even squat one plate. Why should I listen to some sjw pipsqueak like yourself? | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 06:07 PM |
| 2 | Are cashiers even worth it?This comment gives sjw vibes. How does me saying I have blonde hair and green eyes mean that I'm implying that whiteness is hot? Would you have made such an ignorant comment had I said something other than that? I'm not even going to entertain this, get outta here. Why don't you go read the New York Times instead | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?Are you doing anything to lose weight rn? I have been and I'm around 30 pounds lighter than I was two years ago. The result of good training and a better diet. That being said I don't think girls care if you lift, I've seen plenty of attractive women fall for skinny pipsqueaks or guys who have an obvious gut. Text game is easier for me since I can actually think about what I want to say next, and because it's not face to face it's less nerve wracking. Conversely I've never initially flirted with… | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?Yeah but I can't just be like "Me think sexy, you give number". I don't want to have the police called on me or to make this girl that uncomfortable. This is already a situation where I I tried to flirt with this one due to the context I'd have to be subtle | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?I have enough confidence to make small talk, that I can do easily. But making initial advances on women in real life is something I haven't really done. Every date I've been on was with someone I initiated contact with online. That's why I can't go into this with any expectation whatsoever. I guess it also helps that this girl isn't a complete knockout even if she isn't bad looking. If I mess up then I won't lose any sleep over the fact, and trying to flirt will be a bit less intimidating. | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 01:35 AM |
| 0 | Are cashiers even worth it?There's still such a thing as too direct. I can't be some caveman about it | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?Seems a bit too direct | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 12:43 AM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?I wasn't expecting to pull her right out of the gate, like I said I've only made small talk like once or twice. I've mostly ever flirted thru text so irl I'm much less confident in that, I'll have to work up the nerve | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Why do most guys not need to do any of this stuff to find relationships with women?This describes a lot of what I went thru as well, did you ever find a way out? | /r/seduction | 14/05/22 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?The whole point of me making small talk with this girl is to see if there's any rapport. If there is I'd get her number, but it feels strange to ask for something like that in the checkout line | /r/seduction | 13/05/22 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?How'd you pull it off? | /r/seduction | 13/05/22 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?I wouldn't call small talk with this cashier an approach really. I already know there's not much chance I'd get a number out of this, it's really just an experiment. I still don't have the experience or the confidence to approach in the normal sense. I feel like I need some sort of program where I start out doing small things to get my confidence up and developing those skills, and then after a couple weeks/months I'd be able to approach. Sort of like progressive overload in weightlifting. Idk i… | /r/seduction | 13/05/22 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Are cashiers even worth it?How would I be able to do that if I have very little experience approaching? | /r/seduction | 13/05/22 09:28 PM |
| 0 | Are cashiers even worth it?Wasn't trying to hold her hostage, just was planning on making small talk a few times and if she seemed receptive then I'd try my luck. Really I'm just looking at this like it's practice or something, I have very low expectations as to what I would get out of this interaction. That said I'm still not confident enough to approach women outright, I want to gradually ease myself into being more comfortable doing that but I don't have a specific plan or strategy for that yet. | /r/seduction | 13/05/22 09:05 PM |
| 0 | Are cashiers even worth it?So I shouldn't pursue that? Am I better off slowly building up the skill set to use daygame and meet girls that way? | /r/seduction | 13/05/22 09:02 PM |
| -2 | Why do most guys not need to do any of this stuff to find relationships with women?Exactly. For all we know these women that these numales are dating are sleeping with other guys behind their back or they're only with these types because of the money they make. I always tell myself that the people my age I see getting married will be divorced soon enough anyway, these marriages are doomed to fail. | /r/seduction | 13/05/22 09:00 PM |
| 2 | Gradually easing myself into being able to approach. Any suggestions?I'm just starting slow rn, it's not much of a difference yet but it's better than staying the same | /r/seduction | 11/05/22 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Gradually easing myself into being able to approach. Any suggestions?Yeah man i know the feeling, knowing you have to change but still stuck in your old ways. Do you lift? It helped me with realizing I could change things about myself | /r/seduction | 11/05/22 01:38 AM |
| 1 | How did you finally start pulling the women you actually want?I try to stay away from the blackpill but I can't help but be drawn to it to a certain extent. Some of what it says explains the predicament I find myself in. It's kind of hard to believe anything else when a lot of it corroborates what I've gone thru | /r/seduction | 03/05/22 04:39 PM |
| 1 | How did you finally start pulling the women you actually want?In any case it's just plain weird being decent looking but not really able to attract looksmatch girls. Is the market really that skewed now? On apps I get no matches anymore, never tried real life game from start to finish but I'm sure it's no different | /r/seduction | 02/05/22 09:43 PM |
| 1 | How did you finally start pulling the women you actually want?I don't think this is a fixable issue. Like I said I'm not going for girls that look like models or anything, just decent looking women who aren't overweight. Yet even though I don't have drastic standards it seems like these types are all going out with the top 20%. What are we going to do, tell the women they can't date up anymore? lol | /r/seduction | 02/05/22 04:57 PM |
| 1 | How did you finally start pulling the women you actually want?It's gotten to a point where I've realized that if I want to actually get laid I'll always have to settle for less than I want. The women I'd actually like to date are off limits, even though my standards are reasonable. I'd be happy with a 6-7 but any looksmatch girls are going for guys that are higher tier than I am | /r/seduction | 02/05/22 04:49 PM |
| 1 | How do introverts get girls?Luck. Ultimately that's the only thing that will save us. You just have to be in the right place at the right time. Otherwise learn how to enjoy being single | /r/seduction | 02/05/22 03:51 PM |
| 2 | How did you finally start pulling the women you actually want?I can relate. I'm too hot for the ugly girls and not hot enough for the attractive ones. | /r/seduction | 02/05/22 03:48 PM |
| 1 | I graduated from high school as a virgin. I never even kissed a girl. I have so much regret and bitterness over missing out on sex and romance as a teenager. is it any fun as a grown ass man?The same thing happened to me, never got anywhere with girls during high school and I lost my virginity at age 21. For a while I was as bitter about it as you are, that I did all those things at a later age than when it was supposed to happen. After a while you get used to it, I'm 26 now and I don't dwell on the blunders I made a decade ago. Just give it time and the feeling you have will either go away or become less pronounced. There's nothing else you can do | /r/seduction | 02/05/22 03:43 PM |
| 2 | Singletons of Reddit who physically improved their looks/body. Did your love life improve?It made me more confident, but I actually get less action now than I did in the past. The fact of the matter is that girls don't care if you lift. It didn't increase what caliber of women were interested either, I busted my ass in the gym only to attract the same type of skags that I normally do. Keep your expectations realistic | /r/seduction | 02/05/22 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Putting a plan together to improve my dating life, but questions remainAnother problem I've noticed is that in general I'm lazy | /r/seduction | 01/05/22 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Putting a plan together to improve my dating life, but questions remainWhat was the breaking point that made you change? | /r/seduction | 30/04/22 01:20 AM |
| 1 | What are some good resources for introverts? Fellow introverted guys of seddit, what resources/strategies have helped you?I thought the mystery method was considered obsolete | /r/seduction | 30/04/22 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Putting a plan together to improve my dating life, but questions remainI see. It seems I really have been overthinking this whole thing the entire time. With the past few posts I've made on here I've been talking in circles. Something really does have to change. | /r/seduction | 29/04/22 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Putting a plan together to improve my dating life, but questions remainSo I should just go and put myself out there regardless of all these lingering questions in my head? What's the best way to deal with hesitancy/approach anxiety? I think you may be on to something when you say that I just sit there worrying about all possible outcomes. How can I alleviate all this? | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Putting a plan together to improve my dating life, but questions remainWhat did you do when you first were starting out? How long did it take to start making progress? What do you think I should focus on doing right now? | /r/seduction | 27/04/22 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Social activities for a nerdThe quality of women I got after I started lifting stayed the same, in fact I get fewer matches on dating apps now than before I began to train seriously | /r/seduction | 26/04/22 08:01 PM |
| 1 | How to get laid if I’m NEET ?You say you're 120 lb at 5'9? First thing you gotta do is start lifting weights and eating more. I would imagine in your current state that you're skinny as a rail and very lean. In this respect you are lucky, since when you gain weight from working out it will mostly be lean muscle and very little fat. If you're skinnyfat, however, watch your carbs or you'll end up fat for real. Look into a simple barbell program such as stronglifts 5x5 or the program described in the book The Strongest Shall S… | /r/seduction | 26/04/22 06:41 PM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.The woman I'm looking for is probably already with someone else | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 08:57 PM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.Willing to do all of those except lower my standards. I've hooked up with enough skags to know it's not worth it, I always feel terrible about doing that and unattractive women tend to be very clingy towards me and it creeps me out. Everything else tho sounds good. The only issue is the kind of women that would get along well with me probably don't go out much either. They most likely spend their time by themselves just as I do. Online is not an option, it used to kinda work for me but no longer… | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 08:49 PM |
| 5 | Social activities for a nerdThe gym is good, but the reality is that girls don't care if you lift, and even if you workout consistently and improve your physique you probably won't get girls that are hotter than what you're already used to getting. Lifting is more for the health benefits and the confidence that comes with it, it won't actually improve your dating life on its own | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 08:39 PM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.Marcus Aurelius said something about doing your best no matter what, but as far as meeting the kind of women I want I don't see it happening | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 08:25 PM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.How much luck did you have after the whole thing ended? Did you end up finding somebody new? Sucks you had to go thru that | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 08:22 PM |
| 3 | The Proximity Principle: Unless you are consistently interacting with women, don't expect them to magically show up in your life.I wasn't talking about yoga, I was talking about meeting women by being introduced thru friends | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 07:25 PM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.There's plenty of guys for whom what OP says holds true, why would you say it's bullshit. As for why I don't believe I'll get the love life I want there's a few reasons. I'm introverted with niche interests, don't really like going out much, small social circle, and in terms of looks I'm too hot for the ugly women but not hot enough for the attractive women. Most of the time when I've hooked up with girls I've settled, and the ones I truly want wouldn't feel the same about me. It's also really d… | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 07:09 PM |
| 7 | The Proximity Principle: Unless you are consistently interacting with women, don't expect them to magically show up in your life.I've never counted on that happening, never have met any women that way and I don't know anyone who did | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 07:02 PM |
| 13 | The Proximity Principle: Unless you are consistently interacting with women, don't expect them to magically show up in your life.What if it's a sausage fest? | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:55 PM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.It's not defeatism, OP is merely saying that most guys should be realistic about what they hope to attain. The average dude is probably not going to get all the results he wants from this sub, yet PUA and all that stuff keeps people on a hamster wheel. Personally I don't think it's realistic for me to expect to attain the love life I want. That's not defeatism, it's knowing the situation for what it is. What OP is saying shouldn't be a taboo subject | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:53 PM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.Online is a load of crap. As for meeting thru shared interests what do you even do when your interests are all niche and male-dominated? | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:40 PM |
| 0 | This sub is delusional.For the average man there's almost no point in trying. How fast did that all happen? Did you at least get to enjoy her some when she lost the weight but before she dropped your ass? | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:39 PM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.This guy isn't even an incel tho, neither am I. I know he's telling the truth since I and countless others have seen and experienced these things firsthand. There's nothing wrong with being a healthy skeptic. As far as which advice I'm referring to the usual advice given on this sub. The fact of the matter is there's many guys out there who would either attain no success from employing it, or not nearly the degree of success they thought they would get. All that work just to end up with some ska… | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:36 PM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.How much did you lower your standards before you got anywhere? | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:31 PM |
| 0 | This sub is delusional.It's like when you hear about a sub-6ft guy playing in the NBA. It has happened before, but it's a huge exception to the norm, something that hardly ever occurs. Such cases are so exceptional that you can't really use them to prove any point. | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:30 PM |
| 0 | This sub is delusional.yes | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:27 PM |
| 2 | This sub is delusional.That's what I'm doing but I still get worked up over this | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:22 PM |
| 3 | This sub is delusional.An average looking guy can't even get an average looking girl. All the average looking women are going out with guys that are more attractive. The most an average guy can hope for is a woman who is ugly or obese. | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:21 PM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.Again, OP is telling the truth. This sub should be more open to dissenting opinions. Is the idea that the advice on here doesn't work for everyone just verboten? Is it that taboo a subject? | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:18 PM |
| 2 | This sub is delusional.It's the same problem with me, but now I refuse to lower my standards. I didn't work so hard in the gym only to still be stuck only getting attention from unattractive women | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:06 PM |
| 2 | This sub is delusional.How are you coping? Any pointers you can give me? I already know I'll never be satisfied with my love life but it's a hard pill to swallow. I still feel bad about it, but I know it's true. | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 06:02 PM |
| 2 | This sub is delusional.Yeah no matter what the media would attack us. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. That's why no real change will ever happen. Society and the powers that be have their own agenda, and they'll fight tooth and nail to maintain the status quo. In the future I won't be surprised if more than half of adult men are virgins. They're gonna just keep plying these guys up with porno and other degenerate stuff just to keep them complacent. | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:53 PM |
| 1 | This sub is delusional.Online doesn't work, cold approach doesn't work, joining groups relating to your interests just turns into a sausage fest, lowering your standards is degrading. There's just no good answer for most men. | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:45 PM |
| 2 | This sub is delusional.Maybe a group can be formed of others like us who are disillusioned by all of this. It's time for us to make our voices heard | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:41 PM |
| 2 | This sub is delusional.If any real change comes we will have died of old age before seeing it. Keep fighting the good fight, man. I respect your courage for posting this thread and saying everything like it really is. All the backlash in the comments ends up just proving your point | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:36 PM |
| 0 | This sub is delusional.OP is just telling it like it is and nothing more. The fact that there's all this backlash to this thread proves his point | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:35 PM |
| 2 | This sub is delusional.Like I always say, if there's a girl out there for me then she's already going out with guys several tiers above me. Most guys can't win this game, or even get a consolation prize. I feel like there needs to be more activism or conversation about this plight. Maybe we can all write our congressmen and get a group together to get prostitution legalized in the United States, for example. If most guys are doomed when it comes to dating, which they are, then at the very least they should have a sexu… | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:31 PM |
| 2 | This sub is delusional.I feel like this sub keeps guys on a hamster wheel with all its promises. There's probably many guys out there who tried all the advice on here and still got nowhere. The real eye-opener to me came after I started lifting. Despite the fact I'm more attractive now I still am stuck with only getting attention from women I could have easily gotten before I began to go to the gym. The difference now though is that I don't pursue such skags anymore, it's not worth it to lower your standards just to g… | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:23 PM |
| 0 | This sub is delusional.Nice to know someone else realizes all of this. I myself am just trying to cope with the fact that I'll never have the sort of women that I want. I'm too attractive for the ugly girls, but not attractive enough for the hot ones. Nearly every girl I hooked up with I settled for, and the few hot girls I've pulled dropped me after a week or two like it was nothing. I'm sick and tired of mostly pulling unattractive girls that are crazy about me. They act like I'm so hot and they become obsessed with… | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 05:10 PM |
| 0 | This sub is delusional.PUA is very much 2008's solution to the dating problem. It was in vogue back then and may have worked for some, but now that the dating world is in an even sorrier state PUA is obsolete. Most guys in this day and age will not get the sort of women or relationships they desire. It's a harsh truth but we as men need to understand this and move on. Lol @ all the butthurt guys attacking OP on here when he's telling it like it really is | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 04:51 PM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?I personally wouldn't count on that happening | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 04:44 PM |
| 2 | What are some good resources for introverts? Fellow introverted guys of seddit, what resources/strategies have helped you?I'm not trying to make excuses, I'm trying to explain the reality of the situation I'm in | /r/seduction | 25/04/22 04:42 PM |
| 1 | What are some good resources for introverts? Fellow introverted guys of seddit, what resources/strategies have helped you?Even before my current dry spell I would only hook up with 1-2 girls per year, and as I said I settled nearly every time. I would consider it a drastic improvement if I could get one every other month, or at least if I could pull hotter girls than I'm used to getting. Also I get the feeling the sort of women I'm looking for might not get out very much either. It would come down to random chance | /r/seduction | 24/04/22 11:38 PM |
| 1 | What are some good resources for introverts? Fellow introverted guys of seddit, what resources/strategies have helped you?I also worry that my prospects in real life will be the same as they were online, which mostly consisted of women I wasn't interested in and settled for. Meeting someone I actually want is not something I see happening, even if I do put myself out there | /r/seduction | 24/04/22 10:54 PM |
| 1 | What are some good resources for introverts? Fellow introverted guys of seddit, what resources/strategies have helped you?I'm not a very social guy by any description. I have only a few friends and I don't really get out much at all. In order to achieve any measurable results I'd really have to force myself to go out and then it won't even be fun for me. Then again I don't have much of a choice, the apps are all played out. At least with apps I could think more about what I was going to say, but now I get no matches on there | /r/seduction | 24/04/22 10:37 PM |
| 1 | What are some good resources for introverts? Fellow introverted guys of seddit, what resources/strategies have helped you?Idk if I have much approach anxiety but I worry about conversation and the like. Basically I'm worried that I'll never know what to say to build attraction. Also due to my personality most women would probably find me strange or just not what they're looking for. I'm a lot different from most people in that respect so I really don't have much mass appeal. I get the impression most women want extroverted guys that like to go out all the time and I'm just not that. | /r/seduction | 24/04/22 10:13 PM |
| 1 | What are some good resources for introverts? Fellow introverted guys of seddit, what resources/strategies have helped you?What difficulties did you face early on and how did you overcome them? | /r/seduction | 24/04/22 09:53 PM |
| 1 | What are some good resources for introverts? Fellow introverted guys of seddit, what resources/strategies have helped you?My life is kinda in order but since the pandemic began right after I graduated college I'm still in kind of a transitional stage of my life. That said, I have a place to live and I'm applying for a job, I eat right and lift regularly, I do have hobbies but most of them are pretty solitary, and I only have a few friends. My last relationship ended in fall 2019 and ever since I've had a dry spell. Since I've literally always used dating apps I've never pulled any girls completely irl. I honestly d… | /r/seduction | 24/04/22 09:48 PM |
| -2 | What are some good resources for introverts? Fellow introverted guys of seddit, what resources/strategies have helped you?I really am introverted, I really don't think conventional methods would work for me. You wouldn't be able to teach an ostrich to fly, but it can still run. In much the same way I doubt the usual methods would work in my case, there has to be a better way that plays more into my strengths. The advice for introverts can't only be "just become extroverted, bro". There has to be more options than just that. Otherwise it's like telling an ostrich to just spread its wings and fly. | /r/seduction | 24/04/22 08:15 PM |
| 2 | I ain’t gonna lie, I’m frustratedI have the same problem. The quality and frequency of my online matches have diminished over time, even though I'm better looking and more jacked than I was before. I've actually gotten less action now than before I started lifting, but this is probably because now that I've changed my physique I hold myself to a higher standard than in the past. Right now though I'm going thru a dryspell that has already lasted 2.5 years. It's clear apps no longer work, I'm trying to branch out into real life g… | /r/seduction | 24/04/22 02:06 AM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?Wasn't really expecting magic lines, moreso just general strategies better suited to guys like me | /r/seduction | 24/04/22 12:41 AM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?Ok that makes sense. One potential problem that I'm worried about is finding women like that is likely more difficult. After all, more introverted women probably don't go out as much and they'd more than likely be less receptive to any approaches. I guess I was looking for a strategy that caters to my limitations as well, I'm not the sort that would do well approaching at a club or doing daygame. Warm approach appears like my best bet but even then it feels like such a long shot. When I think of… | /r/seduction | 23/04/22 06:24 PM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?What was your original point tho? How does marketing segmentation or whatever tie into this? I've never read anything on that topic | /r/seduction | 23/04/22 01:00 AM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?If I get into a relationship I don't want to have to settle, that's really my attitude about it all | /r/seduction | 23/04/22 12:56 AM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?I just wasn't sure what you were trying to say | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 03:54 PM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?I'm only just starting real life game, you sure I should take such a direct approach so soon? | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 12:20 AM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?How is reading about marketing going to help? What do you mean when you say use what's similar about it? Not really sure what you're trying to say here | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 12:10 AM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?Hmm I think I'm looking for women who are decently attractive, not overly basic, vaguely similar interests/tastes to my own, emotionally stable, perhaps introverted like myself. With the shared interests bit it doesn't have to be that exact, I just feel like I'd have more in common with someone who is into vaguely the same things. I feel like it would be hard for me to find very many girls I could get along with since I'm not much like most people. My interests aren't that mainstream and I have … | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 08:19 PM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?Been making a big push in the gym lately and have also begun to dress better and go out in public more. With branching out irl I'm still in the first steps of doing that. Tbh idk where I'd even find the sort of women I'm looking for, right now I feel like I should just focus on going out more often and not explicitly concern myself with meeting any women. | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 07:02 PM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?My cousins that live in the same town as me aren't old enough to drink. I don't really want to date older women, ideally I'd want someone a couple years younger than me. If I joined a yoga class just to meet girls, wouldn't the women be able to sense this? It feels a bit shady to me to go somewhere or do something with the sole purpose of meeting women, I bet any women would be able to see that intent from a mile away. | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 04:31 PM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?Half my cousins live in Germany, the other half are 10 years younger than I am | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 04:19 PM |
| 2 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?Such is the nature of the dating market in this day and age. I fully expect to have issues with women/relationships for my entire life. Perhaps my dry spell isn't meant to actually end, maybe I should use this as a sign that I should become a monk or something instead of worry about my love life. | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 04:16 PM |
| 2 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?If I don't meet the right girl I'll just focus on my hobbies and my religion. I agree it's all luck man. But I always say the right girl for me is probably already spoken for at this point anyway, most likely with a guy who's a few tiers above me. | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 04:15 PM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?That's the advice I've commonly heard. Going to try it but I'm worried any club will be mostly guys | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 04:13 PM |
| 2 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?My endgame isn't just to hook up, I said I was tired of hooking up with girls I didn't actually care about. With looks and all I'm going for "looksmatch" even though I hate that term. My standards actually aren't that harsh | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 01:50 AM |
| 3 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?What specific red flags exactly? What all would I need to fix? I need to better myself regardless of any dry spell | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 01:27 AM |
| 5 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?Bro I've been on tour twice, I'm telling you most musicians don't really get girls any more than the average guy does unless they're famous. It's not like it's the summer of love anymore man | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 01:21 AM |
| 3 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?What if every group I join turns out to be a sausage fest? I've never done adderall or anything more than just weed and booze. | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 12:59 AM |
| 2 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?How did you end up breaking your dry spell? | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 12:58 AM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?I don't think hitting up any girls I was previously with is an option | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 12:47 AM |
| 3 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?That's a stereotype tho, none of the guys in bands that I know have more than average luck with women | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 12:46 AM |
| 1 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?Wouldn't it be better to meet someone new? | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 06:55 PM |
| 5 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?One thing I say to myself is that the dry spell has to end the right way. Sure I could settle for less again but I would feel bad and I wouldn't become what I need to become in order to break out of the dry spell in better condition. | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 06:50 PM |
| 6 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?Seems like a good idea, I guess the main problem is keeping from going crazy from the dry spell. Won't be surprised if it lasts at least another year | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 05:33 PM |
| 9 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?My life has been pretty stagnant ever since I graduated from college, which was fall 2019. Been fairly isolated and in sort of a rut since spring 2020. I don't expect any woman to fix my problems | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 05:14 PM |
| 2 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?Well right now I'm just working on going out in public more. Not sure if I'll ever be comfortable with cold approach, I feel like I have to take that slowly | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 05:09 PM |
| 5 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?No man I'm not willing to do that again. Done it enough times and it makes me feel awful. Plus in my experience girls like that are often clingy and want a relationship right out of the gate. Not worth it man | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 05:08 PM |
| 8 | How should I go about ending my nearly three year long dry spell?Maybe I am overthinking this. I'm still not entirely comfortable cold approaching in public but I'm working on it | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 04:17 PM |
| 1 | How do you stop missing sex/relationships?Going thru similar things as you are. It's not easy, but meditation has helped somewhat, as well as going to the gym. Not sure when the dry spell will end, if it will ever end, but I just focus on doing what Marcus Aurelius said and do all the positive things in your life regardless of pain or pleasure. Read his book for more insight. | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 08:07 PM |
| 1 | 26m, haven't met met any women thus far whom I find truly interesting. Am I alone in this? What should I do?So you're saying I shouldn't get my hopes up? If that's the case I should just focus on trying to date hotter girls than I'm used to getting but idk how I can actually do that. I've phased out apps but now I'm left without an outlet to meet women, I don't see myself getting anywhere in that department any time soon. My ex girlfriend used to be a stripper, which was something I was never comfortable with. She was alright looking but as far as other than that I still felt like I was settling. I've… | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 03:23 AM |
| 1 | 26m, haven't met met any women thus far whom I find truly interesting. Am I alone in this? What should I do?Idk if that's true, and even if it is I'm tired of hooking up with less attractive women | /r/seduction | 18/04/22 04:19 PM |
| 1 | 26m, haven't met met any women thus far whom I find truly interesting. Am I alone in this? What should I do?The last time I felt anything like that was pretty damn long ago, and that wasn't anybody I ended up with either. One thing I always say is that if there's a girl out there who's actually interesting and right for me she's with someone else already. Most of the women who have ever shown interest in me weren't the sort I would actually find worthwhile. In the past I learned to suppress the urge to crush on women I know just because I never thought anything would come of it. But now that I'm out o… | /r/seduction | 18/04/22 12:53 AM |
| 1 | 26m, haven't met met any women thus far whom I find truly interesting. Am I alone in this? What should I do?How do I deal with that fact then? Do I just accept that I'll never find one I really like? | /r/seduction | 18/04/22 12:12 AM |
| 1 | 26m, haven't met met any women thus far whom I find truly interesting. Am I alone in this? What should I do?It's pretty frustrating man, I almost think the sort of women I actually want don't really exist. Like I said I don't even think I can really do anything about it except hope I'm in the right place at the right time. Even with the one actual girlfriend I had every time I said I loved her it didn't feel like I was really telling the truth. | /r/seduction | 18/04/22 12:10 AM |
| 1 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?Any pointers for approaching as an introvert? Or are there just general principles I should be aware of? | /r/seduction | 14/04/22 07:20 PM |
| 1 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?So it's a matter of putting myself out there more? | /r/seduction | 14/04/22 04:38 PM |
| 1 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?Very good analysis. I see. As an introvert and a beginner in real life game what should I initially focus on? Becoming more sociable, going out more, and getting numbers? | /r/seduction | 14/04/22 01:31 AM |
| 1 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?I don't wear skinny jeans and vans, it's flared trousers and chelseas. Think Jimmy Page in 1969. Haven't played many gigs in the past year or so, my band can't find a drummer. | /r/seduction | 14/04/22 01:02 AM |
| 2 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?Yeah man that's exactly what I'm trying to get done. The apps have run their course and now I've been figuring out ways to branch out more. I think aspects of it will be daunting but it may be worth a shot. Just wondering tho, why would someone fare better in real life as opposed to apps? What is it about real life game that makes it better for meeting women better than what I'm used to? After all, any attractive woman probably have a presence on apps so I'd still be competing with the guys on t… | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 10:08 PM |
| 2 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?At least I'm not a drummer | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 08:04 PM |
| 3 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?I remember a few years back I went out with this girl I really wasn't attracted to. Was just looking to get more experience but then she started getting all clingy and crazy about me; it was actually pretty scary. Any time I've stooped down to that level the less attractive girls act so surprised that someone like me is going for them, like I'm the hottest guy they've had or something. Now I know never to do that again, I always feel bad when they act like they're so into me but I don't share th… | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 07:06 PM |
| 5 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?I said 6s and 7s is what I was going for. I'm not even trying for ones more attractive than that since they'd get so much attention from other guys that they'd be able to drop me at a moment's notice if they so choose. | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 07:02 PM |
| 2 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?With what you said in the last two lines that's probably it. As far as those guys I didn't know them that well so I couldn't really analyze how they were different than me. I just remember they seemed like fairly unremarkable rock/metal type guys, and the music they played was more derivative than my band's stuff, but yet they still would have a nice looking girl on their arm. Either way it can't be just because I'm a bass player that's causing my lack of success. What's even more ironic is that… | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 06:10 PM |
| 1 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?Guess I just need to go out more | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 05:54 PM |
| 2 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?Plenty of guys fitting my description have attractive girlfriends tho. I remember playing shows with other bands and some of those guys would bring their girlfriends to shows, and I would always think "How do they meet somebody like that?". Like they'd have some hot metal chick on their arm while I'm scratching my head wondering why I mostly attract clingy fat girls. If it's not my looks that are the issue maybe there's something else that's off-putting. | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 05:52 PM |
| 1 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?Can I actually work on becoming less introverted? As far as I know things like that are ingrained in one's nature. | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 05:50 PM |
| 4 | How can I meet/date hotter girls than I'm used to getting?I was waiting for that sort of joke lol. That said I've always been the best looking member of my band but I'm still in the bad spot that I'm in | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 05:48 PM |
| 2 | How do you guys that are introverted (like me) meet girls?There's a pdf of it on the internet somewhere, the book itself is out of print tho. The program in the book recommends that you do power cleans, if you've never done those either learn them from a coach or do high pulls instead. | /r/seduction | 12/04/22 04:41 PM |
| 1 | How do you guys that are introverted (like me) meet girls?Basically if you watch porno stop watching it | /r/seduction | 12/04/22 02:50 AM |
| 2 | How do you guys that are introverted (like me) meet girls?For advice on diet and training read The Strongest Shall Survive by Bill Starr, that's a good book | /r/seduction | 12/04/22 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?I've been in a touring band myself, haven't really pulled any girls from gigs or on tour or anything like that tho. I've busked before when I was in college and occasionally people would stop and talk to me. If I recall like seven years ago I did that and actually met two girls that way, but I never actually ended up getting anywhere with either of them. Having said that I at least know that such methods have the potential to work. However that was when I was like 19 and a bit skinnier and less … | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 10:53 PM |
| 1 | How do you guys that are introverted (like me) meet girls?And usually those sorts of girls are quite extroverted, at least the ones I've met that way were | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 08:56 PM |
| 1 | How do you guys that are introverted (like me) meet girls?I could have written this post. I myself used apps as a crutch for the longest time but now I want to actually try real life. It seems daunting but something has to give. Wish I could offer you any advice but I'm in the same position as you. | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 06:30 PM |
| 2 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?If I joined any group relating to my hobbies said group would probably turn out to be a sausage fest tbh. Maybe one or two women who are already spoken for and the rest of the group just guys | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?I knew that, could just say I'm doing it for fun | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?Warm opens is what I'm going for | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?If I'm dressed and groomed well enough I doubt people would assume I'm homeless | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?Exactly, going for more hippie type girls anyway | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?Like I said just trying to get numbers | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?Idk if it's necessarily if I'm scared, I just don't think it would really work for someone like me. I'm really introverted and don't like going out that much, and as I've said before I doubt I'd find girls that are my type if I were approaching at a bar anyway. I'm not really sure if I'm the sort of guy that could make conventional cold approach work. I'd rather explore alternative methods for the time being. If this makes me confident enough then I can try cold approach later. | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?Then I shall | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 01:56 AM |
| 2 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?As far as approach methods I don't think the conventional way will work, so this is the best idea I can come up with | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?The way I see it something like this would take the pain out of the approach, it would break the ice better than just cold approaching. | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?Compared to cold approach at bars it feels like something I could actually do | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?I'm good enough that I wouldn't make a fool out of myself, and I know quite a few songs as well. Most likely I'd be alright at holding a small conversation, but I've never tried to pull any girls in real life so my abilities in that department are untested. My goal with all this is just to try and get numbers. | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?I've thought of ways to meet more girls but idk how many of those things would work. Cold approach at bars and stuff like that probably wouldn't be the best for me. I've said in other threads that I could try playing guitar on the street, but that might not do anything for me either. If I joined any groups about my interests I'm sure it would turn out to be a sausage fest so that option's also not very good. | /r/seduction | 10/04/22 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?I can assure you I'm not going for girls who look like models or anything like that. I just want to date girls a tier or two higher than I'm used to getting. In the past I hooked up with girls I wasn't all that attracted to out of desperation and it really wasn't anything I enjoyed. I still have never met a woman who's given me that sort of "spark" that people talk about or whatever. Another thing I say is that I want my next girlfriend to be better than my last one, but idk if it's even doable … | /r/seduction | 10/04/22 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?Idk how I'm being shallow at all. My standards aren't unreasonable or too high. But girls not caring you're a musician is kinda like how they don't care if you lift. No girl would ever ask a guy how much he squats or benches, so in much the same way the vast majority of them wouldn't care if a guy had serious guitar chops either. | /r/seduction | 10/04/22 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?I'm not getting anything from the apps, there's been such an increasingly diminishing return. I used to be able to get matches but no longer, and I'm better looking than I was since I lift and all. Idk if hitting up girls I knew in the past would work either. Really I don't have a good way of meeting girls. In the past I took what I could get from the apps but I'm not willing to settle for less anymore. I just want to date reasonably attractive women but any girls fitting that description are ge… | /r/seduction | 10/04/22 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?Just remembered as well nearly 8-9 years ago I was talking about the aforementioned stereotype with a friend of mine, and he had a good point. If I remember correctly he said, "Girls like guys who just occasionally pick up and play a guitar, not somebody who takes it as seriously as you do." I think there might be some truth to that. | /r/seduction | 09/04/22 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?I really don't have much experience with approaching. Pretty much the whole time I've used apps as a crutch, but now I can't get any good matches anymore. | /r/seduction | 09/04/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?I used to dress up more for gigs in order to stand out but I don't really do that anymore; in the past I would dress like how Jimmy Page did circa 1969. Also I wonder if being a bass player has something to do with all this, it's not like I'm a lead guitarist or anything and even though I have a decent singing voice I don't sing lead that often. On bass I've always played very well, it's what I'm best at by far in terms of what instruments I play. In my band I've always been arguably the best lo… | /r/seduction | 09/04/22 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?As far as genre it's progressive rock, which not a lot of girls listen to. Also I'm primarily a bass player, I haven't played lead guitar in a band for about eight years. As far as stage presence and playing I've been compared to John Entwistle or John Paul Jones, standing by the drums all chill while playing complex parts on bass. I used to dress up for gigs a lot more in the past, would wear flared trousers and floral shirts and the like but I kinda stopped doing that. Apart from the girls thi… | /r/seduction | 09/04/22 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?Haven't had much chance to approach after gigs just because usually we'd play til closing time. I don't really have much experience approaching in general. Like I said in the past couple years haven't played out much anyway. | /r/seduction | 09/04/22 02:23 AM |
| 1 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?That's exactly my thoughts as well. People are just looking at the really famous guys | /r/seduction | 09/04/22 02:14 AM |
| 2 | Is it weird that as a musician I haven't had much success with women? How have fellow musicians on here fared?I play a genre that not a whole lot of women like anyway, so that could factor into it as well. I just kinda think it's funny that so many people believe the stereotype I mentioned | /r/seduction | 09/04/22 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Fear of success or just hesitancy?What sort of self-reflection? I don't think I'm being too picky, I just want to date girls that are decently attractive, not anyone who looks like a model or like she's made of plastic. Since I started lifting a few years ago I look a bit better than I did but I seldom match with anyone on apps anymore. I've hooked up with less attractive women on apps in the past but I can't see myself doing something like that again. It's very odd since I've turned down women that would have been better. I've … | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 02:00 AM |
| 1 | Going for the landlords daughter. Knowing when to flirt/escalate.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQ1s0EkYCQ | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Fear of success or just hesitancy?Like I said there's been various excuses. Maybe it's because of fear of rejection, but on the other hand I've backed out on girls who were both attractive and interested, for some reason. Idk why but it's happened a few different times. It sucks that I backed out on those chances since now I can't really get matches with attractive women on apps anymore. No idea why but I really don't get the quality or frequency of matches that I used to, but I digress, that's a story for a different thread. La… | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Fear of success or just hesitancy?I see. Been wanting to get off the apps anyway | /r/seduction | 07/04/22 04:17 PM |
| 1 | How can introverts use cold approach/real life game?Cool I'll start looking at it in that sense, that's a good idea | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 04:54 PM |
| 1 | How can introverts use cold approach/real life game?Guess I need to really drag myself out there | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 04:19 PM |
| 2 | How can introverts use cold approach/real life game?I used to get more success on the apps but in the past few years there's been a decline. Nowadays the only women I can pull from apps are less attractive than what I would want. I'm tired of lowering my standards and I want to actually date in my league. A few years ago I would get matches with much hotter girls on average, now I can't for some reason. I'm not bad looking and in decent shape, but it's only the weird less attractive girls that want anything to do with me. I'm not looking for wome… | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 04:19 PM |
| 0 | How can introverts use cold approach/real life game?Maybe I'll try playing guitar on the street when the weather gets warmer. Got nothing against going out by myself, but to go anywhere I'd really have to force myself out of the house | /r/seduction | 04/04/22 11:25 PM |
| 0 | How can introverts use cold approach/real life game?I almost feel like it isn't worth doing if I have to force myself that much. After all, meeting girls and going out with them is supposed to be fun, but I haven't got much enjoyment out of the process. | /r/seduction | 04/04/22 11:20 PM |
| 1 | How can introverts use cold approach/real life game?Then how can I motivate myself more? | /r/seduction | 04/04/22 10:56 PM |
| 0 | How can introverts use cold approach/real life game?I think I'm both, introverted and a bit socially inept | /r/seduction | 04/04/22 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upPerhaps I've been a bit hard on myself, which I have the tendency to do | /r/seduction | 29/03/22 03:53 PM |
| 0 | Dealing with the temptation to give upI just have a hunch that I wouldn't find what I'm looking for at bars | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 02:18 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upI do train already. It does help self esteem and it has made my physique better, but as far as I know girls really don't care if you lift. No girl will ever ask you how much you squat or anything like that. Any pointers for getting better with the idea of interacting with strangers? | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 02:14 PM |
| 2 | Dealing with the temptation to give upI live in the midwest already and I grew up there, but I was actually born in Germany and I'm a citizen of both countries. Totally agree with you there that I wouldn't marry an American woman, but then again I don't want to get married at all. I've been to back to the German-speaking world plenty of times and I think the women there are more attractive but I haven't really tried to talk to any of them. I've joked before that I should marry a Swiss or Liechtenstein woman so I could go and live in… | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 02:13 PM |
| 2 | Dealing with the temptation to give upI'll try that, sounds like it could help | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upOkcupid sucks, already tried that | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 02:03 PM |
| 2 | Dealing with the temptation to give upHow would a guy like me be able to get hotter girls irl? Any time I've tried to talk to girls irl they always seemed bored or uninterested. I've seen other guys get reactions out of women like make them smile or laugh but I haven't really been able to do that. I feel like my personality is antithetical to success using such methods. Plus I don't think I'd meet the kind of women I want at bars or clubs anyway, and I don't think any women appreciate being approached in public anymore. It's almost … | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 03:02 AM |
| 2 | Dealing with the temptation to give upReal life seems more daunting to me as I previously stated. There's far many more variables and idk where I'd even go to meet women. I don't get out very much as is and usually prefer to just chill by myself in my spare time. I know I wouldn't go to bars or anything like that, probably wouldn't work. Not really sure I could pull more attractive women irl, haven't come even close to doing that. The whole idea of approaching girls irl feels like it goes against my nature since I've introverted and… | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upI wouldn't say I'm completely blackpilled but I admit I often get drawn to more pessimistic and cynical outlooks on things like that. The fact that the dating market is horribly skewed is common knowledge tho. I just get worried that no matter what I'll end up having to date down or settle for less than I want. Online dating sucks, and I would try real life, but I highly doubt I'll do much better than I could just using apps as a crutch like I always have. I don't know how I would actually do an… | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 02:39 AM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upIt really does feel hopeless, I don't think I could meet the kind of women I want or to have the love life I desire. To this day I have never met a woman I have found truly interesting or worthwhile, nobody has given me that "spark" that people talk about sometimes. If I wanted another girlfriend I feel like I would have to date down and settle for less, and I've already hooked up with enough mediocre women to know that lowering your standards isn't worth it. No matter what I'm just banging my h… | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 02:01 AM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upEither way the market is still skewed, I fear that even if I better myself my dating life will not get better. It feels like a dead end. | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upLike I said I got little enjoyment out of trying to date, and the situation will not get any better. Plenty of guys never find the love life they want and that's OK. I'm sure there's some way I can just forget about all of this and just get on with my life. To try and keep going wouldn't be healthy, there's more important things to worry about. Thanks for the support. Perhaps I only wanted success with women to live up to a social norm anyway. | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upI don't want to just get the leftovers man | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upWhy do you assume I'm short and ugly? I don't think I need plastic surgery or leg lengthening. Dating abroad would probably work I think. | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Dealing with the temptation to give upIf I give up I'll just focus on living the best life I can while single. So I would focus on my hobbies, religion, etc. Not everyone is meant to have the love life they desire, and many more men will find themselves perpetually alone as the dating market becomes more skewed, so I take comfort in the fact that I'm not alone in that situation. I guess if I want sex I can always go to nevada and see a professional, probably would be able to get with hotter girls than I ever could the normal way if … | /r/seduction | 27/03/22 07:28 PM |
| -1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upI see. So really I should focus on living the best life I can alone. What should I do to make my lifelong singleness the most enjoyable? It isn't necessarily a bad thing, I think. More and more guys will end up in the same situation as time goes on. Thank you for giving me a straight, non sugar-coated answer, I respect that. | /r/seduction | 27/03/22 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upAny time I try to think more positively I feel like I'm lying to myself, like what I'm saying about myself isn't true. But with all those things stacked against me, I should give up? Honest question | /r/seduction | 27/03/22 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upI'm aware the dynamic reverses with age, but I get the impression that what happens is that the women who slept around in their youth just try to find some sucker to settle down with. I don't want to be just getting the leftovers, as it were. I'm also aware that individual tastes exists, but I mostly appeal to weird fat girls for some reason even though I'm not ugly and I lift. Most of the girls I've hooked up with were nothing to write home about, and the few attractive girls I hooked up with d… | /r/seduction | 27/03/22 06:29 PM |
| 0 | Dealing with the temptation to give upI only used cold approach as an example, with any of those other options I don't think they'll work either. Not trying to use society as an excuse either, I just feel like if I improved myself it still wouldn't do anything for me. If the market is becoming even more skewed then no amount of improvement will save me, at least that's how I see it. Unattractive women don't have to do anything and they can still land an above average guy, while the average man is left with nothing. I liked what you … | /r/seduction | 27/03/22 06:00 PM |
| -1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upBut any attractive girl will have dozens of guys hitting her up, I can't possibly compete. With going out and all that it's not something I normally do, usually I just like to chill by myself in my free time. It would end up feeling more like a chore. Like I said, dating is supposed to be fun but I've gotten little enjoyment out of it. I've gotten much more out of my hobbies than trying to date. | /r/seduction | 27/03/22 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with the temptation to give upWith real life game there's just so many things up in the air. Idk where I'd go, what I'd say or do, etc. I don't think I'm the sort of guy most women are looking for, and like I said I doubt going out to try to meet women would be that fun for me. Most likely would just turn out to be awkward and disappointing. | /r/seduction | 27/03/22 05:27 PM |
| 1 | How can I deal with competition?I haven't had much luck with cold approach thus far, what can I do to get better? | /r/seduction | 26/03/22 08:00 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I guess it's early imprinting. In late middle school I tried talking to girls a lot but got nowhere; I had heard there were things said about me behind my back because of it, so early on I decided to stop trying. My parents always wanted me to have a good social life but in those days I was pretty cringy. Thus in high school I had very few interactions with girls since I had convinced myself that talking to them wasn't worth it, as I already stated. This of course lead to me having to play catch… | /r/seduction | 25/03/22 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Yeah ok that makes sense. I've had a few female friends in the past but that was a while ago. | /r/seduction | 23/03/22 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Yeah that's correct, not really expecting to meet women doing those two things. Not engaging women in person has been something ingrained in my mind for over a decade so it's been difficult to reprogram my mind in that respect. I can see why I only relied on apps in the past; it was less daunting to me to talk to girls that way, and communicating via text I could pause and give more thought to what I was saying. Like I said earlier, as early as high school I had convinced myself that trying to t… | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I've been taking small steps to improve socialization at least. I talk to a few of the same guys at the gym and occasionally I also go to the local Hindu temple since I converted to Hinduism last year. There's always people there to talk to, and the food is free. | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?For what it's worth my hair is shorter than it was in the past. When I was like 19/20 it was more than halfway to waist length, now it's usually a little over shoulder length. Was thinking of getting it cut like that of György Szalai but that may be overkill. I don't think I'd have it any shorter than shoulder length. | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I do think my social skills kinda got worse over time. Even though I didn't peak in high school overall I feel like socially I kinda peaked in high school, at least so far in my life. That said back then I was much more ignorant about a lot of things but aspects of my social life were better just because it was interacting with more people in general. College was somewhat more isolating for whatever reason and then of course the past couple years didn't help. It's plausible that my ability to in… | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Thanks man, that actually helps a lot | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 02:25 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Good idea. Like I said idc about abs, just want the excess fat gone | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?My diet is good. I don't eat white sugar, white four, processed foods, high fructose corn syrup, sweets or candy of any description, soy products, canola oil, anything breaded or deep fried, or anything with artificial dyes in it. Yet I still look like how I do. I even got tested for Klinefelter Syndrome and Cushing Syndrome just to make sure there was nothing hormonally wrong and both tests came back negative. I think I just got unlucky with the genes that dictate fat storage. I've actually bee… | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Then yeah there is no hope lol. I always fold at the slightest displays of competition no matter what. Guess I should get used to only hooking up with girls I don't really like | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?My main fear isn't as much as coming across as creepy as it is either trying to talk to girls and getting nowhere and making a fool out of myself, or just reverting to not trying due to me seeing no point in it. I would never act in an overly thirsty manner, I can assure you. But as I said part of the problem is if I sense any degree of competition I immediately back off and tell myself it isn't worth it. Other guys are much better at getting good reactions out of women than I am, so any attempt… | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Ok I'll see if I can give this a shot, it's a long shot and I'm unlikely to find anyone worthwhile but it's better than apps I guess. At the very least it'll mean I'm doing something different | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?This sounds like good advice but I'm still a bit apprehensive about following it. I'm almost certain that if I go to any group relating to my interests it'll just turn out to be a complete sausage fest. Like a bunch of dudes there for the same reason I am and like no girls. | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?One thing I am trying to work on is to lose the remaining midsection fat I have but it's been very hard. I could probably be famine levels of emaciated and still have a gut and love handles. Just genetics I guess. The last time I was below 20% bodyfat was when I was in middle school. I don't look fat when clothed just extra midsection fat if I remove my shirt. Also I have excess fat on my face for some reason but idk what to do about that. Other than those shortcomings I've gotten pretty sizable… | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?But like I said in my post it would feel insincere joining something just to try to meet girls, plus any women would be able to sense that's what I was doing. And also if I joined any group it probably would be mostly guys there, maybe like two girls that are already spoken for | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?What should I do then? | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:48 AM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I'm just telling you how things are man | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I usually look pretty bad in photos no matter who takes them, nor do I have any female friends really. For whatever reason I'm very unphotogenic even though I've been described as good looking by people other than my relatives. I still have far from the ideal physique but it's better than it was before at the very least | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Well then it sounds like they were just in the right place at the right time. Luck is probably the biggest factor in all of this in the end. | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I've already lowered my standards enough times and hooked up with girls I didn't find all that attractive. Really isn't worth it man, not doing that again. | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:35 AM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Guess you're right but I still don't really know any good bars around here. Plus if I really wanted to drink I'd have to take an uber or something. | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?There's no hope that I would meet any girls thru friends, I only have few friends and the majority of them are in the same position that I am. I truly am sick of having to use apps even though they're pretty much the only way to play, real life is something for me to try before I completely throw in the towel. If I really want sex there's always professionals, right? | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I don't think bars are the way to go tho, already said that | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I feel like if there's a girl out there who's right for me she probably already has a boyfriend or something | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I don't even know where I'd go to try that, that's another problem in itself | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Trying to do something about the social circle but it's taking a while. As for cutting my hair short I wouldn't, if I had short hair I'd look too much like some kind of square, plus I'm in a rock band so it'd look out of place. | /r/seduction | 22/03/22 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I have asthma so my cardio options are a bit limited. With weights I do the olympic lifts mainly and I'm getting a lot better at it, in a few months I'll be able to clean 100 kg at least. Back squat is a bit lower than it should be but I'm working on it. Then again girls really don't care if you lift, they only care if you have abs, which I do not. Nor do I train for aesthetics, I just lift because I like it. Ironically I got way more success before I started lifting but it's probably a coincide… | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?So basically I'll only get good at that when I'm like 30 and the pool has shrunk even more? Great | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?What difference does cardio make? | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?This really has been a long dry spell. What's funny is last year I could have met up with a few girls from the apps that would have been alright but I chickened out on all of them for some reason. Even went on a actual date with one and just never really went to see her again even though she was interested and actually somewhat good looking. Idk why I did that but now it's come back to bite me. | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 10:56 PM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?That's what I keep saying. It's over then, right? | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 10:43 PM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I mean when I was in college I would try to talk to girls before class and stuff like that but they never really seemed interested at all. But I saw other guys do the same thing sometimes and they would get positive reactions out of them, make them smile/laugh and so on, which I was never able to do. | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 10:36 PM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Finally someone gives me a straight answer lol | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?It feels against my own nature, if that makes sense. I've always been a very introverted guy, not much charisma, prefer to keep to myself mostly, etc. Plus girls get approached all the time by more worthy suitors, so my own chances will always be slimmer than that of the competition. Additionally even though I'm not bad looking I probably don't look like the sort of guy most girls would want. Then again I'm not one of those nerdy/gamer types, I'm in a band and everything but it's not the sort of… | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?As I said I seriously doubt I'd be able to pull off cold approach | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?If I have to go thru that many than it's no different than using apps as far as the potential returns. May as well just go back to the apps and keep banging my head against a wall | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I just never think I'm good enough. The average woman has dozens of guys pursuing her at once, so why would any girl pick me? Very early on, when I was just starting to try to date, the first two girls I hooked up with ditched me for someone else. Idk if my inexperience turned them off or something but that stuck with me. They just dropped me for someone else after like two weeks like it was nothing. | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?So I shouldn't worry about meeting anyone right now? Just focus on getting my mind in the right place? | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 10:09 PM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Most of my friends I met in school or college, thru shared interests and the like. I haven't talked to any of my friends from high school in years tho, it's a long story. Really I only have a few friends I actually talk to but most of them live elsewhere so I don't see them much. The one friend I hang out with on a regular basis is the guitarist in my band, but he can be annoying sometimes. Haven't made any friends post college but then again I spend most of my free time by myself. Also what giv… | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I know it's not a good strategy, hence why I said I couldn't count on it. I'm willing to try irl I just have to figure out where | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Idk if I'm willing to do that tho. Seems like less of a return than the apps even | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Ok this makes sense, will keep in mind | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Anything to fill the void about never having the sort of love life I've wanted. Always knew I'd have issues with this sort of thing my entire life | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:53 PM |
| 3 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?That's a good point, but naturally I'm very negative about everything. When I was younger I thought that thinking positively was just deluding oneself, like I was lying to myself about how I actually am or how things are going. Always subconsciously thought that pessimism was a more realistic view. May not be true but that's what always went on inside my head. | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I don't know. Maybe it's how I come across or something. It always just feels kinda forced when I try to do that, like I'm reading off of a script. | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?There's also the issue that I rarely go out in public as it is. What's also ironic is that I'm in a band and I've played shows at bars all across the US but I'd never think of trying to talk to girls at a bar. | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?That's another problem I have, with any competition I just fold. When I was in high school and college, if there was a girl I liked from a distance and other guys were talking to her I would just back off and give up on the prospect of trying my luck. Like I'd always just tell myself with the competition it wasn't worth the effort. In real life all I've been able to do is admire girls from afar and tell myself that's as far as I'd be able to go. As if I can't touch, but only look | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:42 PM |
| 5 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?But how would having more female friends help? | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?I have therapist already, I've been going to therapists for over a decade now. I definitely have feelings of inadequacy and the like, it's been that way ever since I was a child. Even as a kid I would always say very negative things about myself all the time. I try to socialize with people but for the most part I just prefer to hang out by myself. I hang out with the guitarist in my band mostly, but at the gym I usually talk to some guys there too. Other than that I don't really do much, just ch… | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:37 PM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Hmm perhaps I should just not worry about it at all, try to think about something else. I'm just tired of apps but real life probably wouldn't bring me any better results. Dating should be fun but I've gotten little enjoyment out of it. I've gotten much more out of weightlifting or music than I have trying to meet girls. Maybe focus on that instead? | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Any time I've tried to talk to women in real life it's always felt forced. I've seen other guys engage women and make them smile/laugh etc. Talking to me they just seem bored or not very interested. | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:29 PM |
| 3 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?Maybe what I should work on first is dealing with self doubt. As I said elsewhere in the comments I missed out on a lot of the normal social milestones, I had no success with girls in my formative years. It affects my perception of things to this day. | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?How should I even start? I would feel completely out of place going anywhere just to try and chat up women. With the whole metoo thing or whatever it seems sort of risky if you don't look like the sort of guy that would appear on the cover of a magazine. For me to try and learn how to meet women irl feels like if an ostrich tried to learn how to fly. | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:07 PM |
| 2 | Is it feasible to meet women in this day and age without using apps?The apps don't even work for me anymore and I got sick of them. Plus most of the girls I met from the apps weren't really what I wanted, I just went with it because I had no other options. I feel like I need to do something different hence why I felt the need to do a complete overhaul. | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Considering no longer using apps. Advice?Ok I'll read that, I've read another one of Burn's works before | /r/seduction | 16/03/22 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Considering no longer using apps. Advice?Well then what do I need to do? | /r/seduction | 16/03/22 02:53 PM |
| 3 | Considering no longer using apps. Advice?Apps are a scam for most guys I'm starting to realize. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. This is exactly my experience with them | /r/seduction | 16/03/22 02:52 PM |
| 2 | Considering no longer using apps. Advice?I want to try real life but I don't think I'd find girls that are my type at clubs | /r/seduction | 16/03/22 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Considering no longer using apps. Advice?This is another thing, before even thinking of approaching irl I would have to work thru all this mental stuff. Would probably take a long time until I could even think of trying my luck irl. I've used apps exclusively for so long that all of what I know about meeting women is solely from experience using apps. In my formative years I never learned how to meet women the normal way so my development in that department has always been stunted. | /r/seduction | 16/03/22 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Considering no longer using apps. Advice?I hate dancing tho, any other suggestions? | /r/seduction | 16/03/22 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Considering no longer using apps. Advice?I just have a hard time believing it would work for me. As I said if I try to approach irl the girls are never interested. Plus I don't think any women would appreciate me approaching them. Therein lies the paradox. Apps really do suck but if I stop using them I don't have any other option. | /r/seduction | 16/03/22 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Considering no longer using apps. Advice?Yeah I mean I know that but it's even more of a roll of the dice than apps | /r/seduction | 16/03/22 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Considering no longer using apps. Advice?But how can I do that when my social circle is small and I don't really go anywhere? There just aren't any opportunities to do that | /r/seduction | 16/03/22 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Fed up with all of this, time to give up? (26m)How can women sense my attitude just by looking at my tinder profile? | /r/seduction | 14/03/22 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Fed up with all of this, time to give up? (26m)I don't think it's just my attitude, my entire personality and lifestyle is completely not conducive with meeting women | /r/seduction | 14/03/22 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Fed up with all of this, time to give up? (26m)I've heard that avoidant attachment thing thrown around before, it's plausible. It's like I'm so used to not getting any attention from women that if one is actually interested it throws me off and I get kinda weirded out if that makes sense. I would also feel awkward approaching irl no matter what setting. It seems much more difficult than using apps and for an introverted guy like me it's contrary to my nature in some respects. | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 11:32 PM |
| 2 | Fed up with all of this, time to give up? (26m)I certainly am not demanding girls that are out of my league. I'm just trying to date girls in my league, but those ones are only talking to guys a couple tiers above them. Women only date up these days. I have no idea why I had more success before lifting, it's probably just a coincidence but it's definitely ironic to think about. No idea why I chickened out, those girls would have probably been alright but I still found some excuse. A lot of times when girls actually say they're interested I b… | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Fed up with all of this, time to give up? (26m)I doubt I could meet anyone interesting at a bar, and also approaching irl would just be me making a fool out of myself. Online is far easier for me despite how brutal it can be. I wouldn't fare well approaching at bars at all. | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Fed up with all of this, time to give up? (26m)Good to finally hear from someone in a similar situation. You're probably right, I should just do what Marcus Aurelius says and focus on the things that actually matter. It's really odd as well for me to think that I met pretty much all the girls I've been with before I started lifting. Getting girls was never the primary reason I train but I thought it would make me somewhat more attractive at the very least. Now I've been in a dry spell lasting over two years but I have sizable gains and my we… | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 11:13 PM |
| 0 | Fed up with all of this, time to give up? (26m)For someone like me I doubt bars would work | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Fed up with all of this, time to give up? (26m)We've been trying to find a drummer for over two years, still no luck. Most of the shows I've played there have been very few women there. | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Fed up with all of this, time to give up? (26m)I've never tried meeting women in bars, pretty much all the women I've been with I met online. Idk if I could pull off cold approaches like that, I'm naturally quite introverted and I have no idea what I would even do or say in a situation like that. It's a good idea on paper but with my personality and everything I doubt I'll be able to pull it off without major changes on my part. | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 09:00 PM |
| 2 | Fed up with all of this, time to give up? (26m)Thanks man, but if I stay off tinder then I really have no way to meet girls at all. I also feel like very few girls are actually of any interest to me, and I always say that if there's a girl out there who's good for me she's probably already taken anyway. If I continue I'll just be stuck settling for girls I really have no interest in at all. To this day I've never met any woman I've found truly interesting, never have had any "spark" or whatever with any of them. | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Meeting girls IRL vs onlineNo wonder I couldn't find it anywhere | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Meeting girls IRL vs onlineI don't want to have to do that but I've never had good luck with women, and my development in that department has always been stunted. My view on women/relationships is shaped by my lack of access to those things in my formative years. I sometimes think I'm better off just forgetting about it. Maybe I only wanted success with women in order to live up to a social norm, who knows. I've pretty much accepted the fact that any women who's attracted to me probably won't be the sort that I'm attracte… | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Meeting girls IRL vs onlineGuess I shouldn't think about women at all right now then. I'm fed up with dating apps, fed up with trying to meet women and failing, sick of only meeting girls that are less attractive since those are usually the only ones I can attract right now. Maybe give up on women for the time being? | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Meeting girls IRL vs onlineSo I should just focus on inner game and not worry about women right now? I feel like I have to make major changes now or I'll never be successful in that department | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Meeting girls IRL vs onlineSo I shouldn't just go to bars? | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Meeting girls IRL vs onlineMy band hasn't had any regular gigs in a few years since we haven't been able to find a drummer after the last guy left. Never had much luck trying to meet girls at gigs since the kind of stuff we play isn't exactly what women listen to, plus I have never felt comfortable trying to talk to girls irl. I have been described as interesting before; I know a lot about many different topics, I'm well traveled, I know a few languages, and I've made five albums with my band and gone on tour twice. That … | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Meeting girls IRL vs onlineI think one of my problems is that it all seems so daunting to try real life when I've used dating apps as a crutch the whole time. Literally all I know about game comes from meeting women online so irl I'd feel like a fish out of water. Perhaps I should take small steps at first? | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Meeting girls IRL vs onlineThat's a good point, my social circle is pretty damn small. Aside from family members pretty much the only person I hang out with regularly is the guitarist in my band, and he's kind of annoying sometimes. In my spare time I'm mostly alone except for the occasional jam session or going to the gym. There's some other guys at the gym I talk to but there's like no women there that are my age except for one or two. I train at a weightlifting gym so it's a very small community of the same people ther… | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Meeting girls IRL vs onlineI actually don't exactly know, not as much as a metalhead as some assume but that'd be a start, probably should look into that | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 02:38 AM |
| 1 | Meeting girls IRL vs onlineCan't seem to find it thus far | /r/seduction | 13/03/22 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Meeting girls IRL vs onlinehmm ok will check it out after I get back from the gym, I got nothing to lose. Danke | /r/seduction | 12/03/22 10:11 PM |
| 2 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Exactly what I fear. Maybe it's too late at this point | /r/seduction | 10/03/22 02:01 AM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Yeah I think I do need better pics | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Just pm'd pics | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I think online my chances of success are higher despite the difficulty of it. I literally can't imagine meeting a girl irl and actually having it work. There's just no way | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 09:32 PM |
| 0 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I've had mustache for over a year, not sure if I want to part with it now. I don't think girls universally hate mustaches. If that were true no man with mustache would have a girlfriend. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 09:30 PM |
| -3 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I just feel like there's not much I can do. My fate is probably already sealed. That said I should probably give up rather than settle. If there's one thing I've gotten out of this thread that's it. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 09:23 PM |
| -1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)A lot of guys with long hair and mustaches have girlfriends. Why would I have to cut my hair? Maybe mustache will go but I do like how I look with it. I would look way worse with short hair and no mustache. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Like I said perhaps I should just forget it and cut my losses at this point. I don't think I'll ever have the sort of girls I want anyway. It's clear I don't really have much to offer. Why did I even make this thread anyway? | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)It's not that I feel entitled, and I'm not even saying I'd want a girl who looks like some sort of model or something. I just want to date girls in my league but I can't even do that. What can I do if I'm very introverted and don't really have much charisma at all? | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I hope not | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 09:16 PM |
| 2 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Well then I should just give up, I don't want to have to date girls I'm not attracted to. Perhaps I wasn't meant for this sort of thing anyway | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 08:16 PM |
| 6 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Come on man that's a bit harsh | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 08:13 PM |
| -1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I can assure you I am not a troll. Idk where I'd even go to meet girls, probably wouldn't have much luck at all most places. Maybe I'll try playing guitar on the street once the weather warms up, that's one thing I can think of. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Hmm maybe would work but the sort of music I play isn't even the kind that girls listen to. At my band's shows it's always been more than 90% guys. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I actually get fewer matches on hinge for some reason, and pretty much none on bumble. Tinder has been the most reliable but that's not saying much. Wouldn't say I look like Joe Dirt but a lot of people have told me I look like Blake from Workaholics. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 08:06 PM |
| 3 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Tell me something I don't know lol | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Usually I look pretty bad in photographs anyway tho | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 08:01 PM |
| 2 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Maybe I'd pm a pic but I usually look horrible in photographs. As for how I look like imagine a cross between Kurt Vile and Blake from Workaholics, but less skinny and with broader shoulders. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 08:00 PM |
| 0 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I'm relegated to using dating apps because I know approaching IRL wouldn't work and I have no opportunities to do so anyway. I feel so awkward doing that and I feel like it would only lead to me embarrassing myself, and also I get the impression that no women want to be approached by some weird guy like me. Approaching online is much easier for me. My band hasn't had a lot of gigs in the past few years since we can't find a drummer, and even then the sort of music we play is exactly the kind tha… | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Approaching IRL has never worked for me, and I don't really even go anywhere where I could do that. I think it would lead to even worse results. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 07:50 PM |
| 3 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I know it's odd. When I was in college I was in the loudest, heaviest, most technically proficient band in town and I still had pretty much no female attention except for a couple short flings that ended badly. Even then those girls I just met on tinder instead of at one of my shows. Then again girls don't really listen to the kind of stuff I play. As for the mustache I guess I could part with it but I think I look better with one tbh. I can grow a goatee but not a full beard. If I could grow a … | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 07:48 PM |
| 2 | Sick of having to date down (26M)That's exactly what I mean man, unless you have abs girls don't care if you lift at all. There's plenty of guys who don't train who could pull way hotter girls than I'm capable of doing. Not to say my primary reason for training is to get girls, which it certainly isn't. I lift because I enjoy it, as far as training I mostly do the olympic lifts. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 07:41 PM |
| 3 | Sick of having to date down (26M)People have said that before but there's a lot of guys with long hair who have girlfriends. But as I said before I would look far worse with short hair, and as a member of a rock band cutting my hair would make me look out of place. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 07:39 PM |
| 2 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Those were flukes tho, and it was a few years ago that it happened. Idk if I'd be able to pull that off today. I have tinder plus so I can see who swipes right on me. 90% of the time it's either fat women who don't even look feminine, bots, or girls trying to sell me something. The market really is that skewed, and due to my personality and lack of a large social circle I'm pretty much forced to use dating apps exclusively. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I've always been a very negative person so that makes sense I guess. But how would girls on tinder be able to perceive that just by looking at my profile? | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)probably like 4-5 out of 10. Landed a 7 or 8 once or twice. The one gf I had was a solid 7. I myself am probably 6-7 out of 10. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)It doesn't seem like it'll budge. The ironic thing is that after lifting I've become more attractive than I've ever been but all of the action I've gotten happened before I started going to the gym. One would think that lifting would help attract better women but I get fewer tinder matches than ever now. Has the market really become that skewed? Like I said girls really don't care if you lift unless you have abs, but I thought it would at least help somewhat. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 06:57 PM |
| 0 | Sick of having to date down (26M)When will I know when it's time to give up? | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Guess I'll have to get used to being alone for a very long time then. Like I said girls date up usually so someone like me would have slim pickings | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 06:37 PM |
| 1 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I know that, but I don't want to have to resort to that again | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 06:26 PM |
| 4 | Sick of having to date down (26M)So I should take the gamble and wait? I'm already 26 though, can't imagine the situation would be better at age 30. I don't even think I'm capable of attracting girls in my league, they're all dating guys a few tiers above me I think. | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 06:26 PM |
| -4 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I wouldn't cut my hair but I could at least change the style of it and still have it be long. I've had essentially the same hairstyle for about 10 years | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 06:07 PM |
| 2 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I've done certain things to change myself such as lifting etc. but perhaps you're right I need to do more | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Sick of having to date down (26M)I think I'm just innately weird tho | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 06:03 PM |
| 0 | Sick of having to date down (26M)Lol but I don't want to get married | /r/seduction | 09/03/22 05:47 PM |
| 1 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionI mean I’m in a rock band, I would look weird on stage with short hair combined with my usual stage attire. I appreciate your constructive criticism and I’m willing to do things to change, but I don’t see why I’d cut my hair. It’s already less than half the length it was a few years ago, and I think it’s at a good length now. Plenty of guys with long hair have girlfriends, I really don’t think it’s that big of a deal to not cut it short | /r/seduction | 16/11/21 11:47 PM |
| 1 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionI used to straighten it but that was back in high school. In those days I would regularly straighten it. Idk why i would have to, did Plant straighten his? I take a few supplements for hair, like biotin, inositol, etc. I also use the nicer shampoo and conditioner, not the kind that you get at the grocery store. | /r/seduction | 15/11/21 09:45 PM |
| 1 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionI think it looks good enough, I'm not willing to cut it short. I get it trimmed every couple months, and while it's still pretty long it's much shorter than it previously was. Also I may lose my hair in the future, so I want to enjoy having long hair when I can still have it. Haven't had any signs of that happening yet but I think it's bound to happen sooner or later. | /r/seduction | 06/11/21 10:24 AM |
| 1 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionIs it really that bad? I feel like I'd look too basic with short hair | /r/seduction | 03/11/21 08:39 PM |
| 1 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionThe mustache will go | /r/seduction | 01/11/21 06:46 PM |
| 3 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionI just got it trimmed a few days ago and it looks quite good | /r/seduction | 01/11/21 06:45 PM |
| 1 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionWill cut back on the weed | /r/seduction | 01/11/21 01:05 AM |
| 2 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionIt looked cool but it was hard to trim it right | /r/seduction | 01/11/21 01:04 AM |
| 3 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionIdk how good I’d look with short hair, I usually have it less long than I did in the past at least. Last time my hair was short was when I was in middle school, and that was over a decade ago | /r/seduction | 01/11/21 01:04 AM |
| 2 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionI did aikido/aikijujitsu when I was a kid and was pretty good at it, perhaps I can learn judo or something. I’m not really lifting for aesthetics either | /r/seduction | 01/11/21 01:01 AM |
| 1 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionI'm not really that ripped anyway, I do the olympic lifts almost exclusively so most develoment has been in shoulders, traps, quads, etc. Have never been close to having abs, and I've always hovered around 20% bodyfat or so. Really my biggest physique weakness is that I still have a bit more midsection fat than I would like. | /r/seduction | 31/10/21 10:19 PM |
| 2 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionI can't really grow a full beard, I can only grow mustache and goatee. I at least don't have as obnoxious of a mustache as I did earlier this year; up until a month or so ago I had a handlebar mustache with the ends curled up. Ended up being impractical to maintain so I did away with that. | /r/seduction | 31/10/21 10:15 PM |
| 1 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionI'm in a fairly large city already | /r/seduction | 31/10/21 10:13 PM |
| 1 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionMy band hasn't had very regular gigs in the past few years since we've had trouble finding a steady drummer, but also at my gigs usually there's not many girls there | /r/seduction | 31/10/21 10:12 PM |
| 1 | 25M, fed up with dating apps but I feel they're my only optionI wouldn't say I'm as brutal looking as murderface, but perhaps the mustache shall go. I live in a fairly big city of about a million people already, but one thing I am thinking of doing is moving to either Austria or Switzerland in a year or two. My hair is already much shorter than in the past. A few years ago it was almost to my waist, but now it's a little over shoulder length. I could probably lose about 15 more pounds. I used to weigh nearly 240 but I'm down to 217 now. It would be good if… | /r/seduction | 31/10/21 10:11 PM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]If you need a training program to follow I would highly recommend reading the book The Strongest Shall Survive by Bill Starr. The program described in that book is pretty simple and straightforward and it has good nutrition advice too. I'm pretty sure it's available in pdf form somewhere on the internet. Stronglifts is another good program. Perhaps look at both of those and pick which one you like more. | /r/seduction | 31/10/21 07:12 AM |
| 3 | (24) Pretty sure i've been sexually repressed my whole lifeI second that last bit; one of the best things you can do is to stop watching porn | /r/seduction | 30/05/20 01:00 AM |
| 1 | (24) Pretty sure i've been sexually repressed my whole lifeRead the Book of Pook; it’s the only book on dating you’ll ever need. I used to be somewhat like you, and the book literally changed my life. Here’s a link to a snippet of it on audiobook: https://youtu.be/Jb-4pB27cME | /r/seduction | 30/05/20 12:54 AM |
| 1 | How long did it take for you to have success?23m here, about to graduate from college. I used to be in the same sort of situation as yourself. When I was in high school I got nowhere with girls, I was insecure and socially awkward. It also didn’t help that I went to a very small school; since there were only 50 people in my graduating class I didn’t have many options anyway. As a result, by the time I got to college I was already a couple years behind the curve. I didn’t get my first kiss until 19, and didn’t actually sleep with a woman un… | /r/seduction | 12/11/19 06:50 PM |
| 1 | 23, spending semester abroad, need advice and strategiesYour ego is holding you down It's not easy to get a grip of this, unfortunately. I started with girls comparatively late as I've said before; I went to a small private school where only the most popular guys could have girlfriends (the social environment was just naturally like this), and all the girls were fairly stuck-up, so it's not like I had any luck there. By the time I got to college I had no idea what I was doing and had to make up for lost time; I didn't actually get laid at all until m… | /r/seduction | 09/02/19 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Please help guys. I don't know what's wrong with me.Read the Book of Pook, this is literally the most powerful material written on seduction of all time | /r/seduction | 08/11/18 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Worried about prospects during, and after college (long-ish post)Yeah, I’ll be moving back to where I grew up after. That’s exactly what I’m talking about though, if I got a gf in college now the days of that relationship would automatically be severely numbered. That said, isn’t it a lot harder to meet women after college? In this regard I’m kind of in a bad spot. I can try my luck while I’m still in school, only to catch it at the tail end, or wait until after I graduate, and have even more difficulty meeting women than already is the case now. | /r/seduction | 14/09/18 12:01 AM |
| 1 | 21m, Got problems with jealousy (Inner Game)until you establish some type of exclusive relationship That's another thing I'm worried about, I never get as far as that. My interactions with any individual woman always run their course before it ever gets to that point. It's quite disheartening. | /r/seduction | 21/11/17 08:48 PM |
| 2 | I really hate being a single virgin and its been eating me up, what should I do?God damn, I could've written this | /r/seduction | 30/08/17 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Seriously considering giving upNo, I never do. I've always thought saying that may come across as needy, or that if they knew that about me they'd just ditch me for someone else rather than deal with that. | /r/seduction | 23/02/17 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Seriously considering giving upI at least made out with every girl I had a serious chance with, but never took it any further. I figured that once I had done that a few times with a girl then I could take it all the way. However, they always lost interest in me before I felt comfortable having sex. Since I've never done it before I feel very insecure about escalation in that regard, because I would come across as very obviously inexperienced. | /r/seduction | 22/02/17 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Seriously considering giving upJust did not too long ago | /r/seduction | 22/02/17 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Seriously considering giving upI'll PM you those details | /r/seduction | 22/02/17 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Seriously considering giving upI'll try and answer these best I can. The farthest I've been with a girl is fingering. So far, I've at least made out with all the ones I've met I have all my goals written down in my journals. I think they think I'm not worth their time because I believe they can sense my insecurity. I don't think they see me as someone they could date. Other than women, I believe my life is going quite well I don't think I look half bad, but my sense of style wouldn't appeal to most women. I look like I could … | /r/seduction | 22/02/17 12:13 AM |
| 2 | Almost 21, need help with my dating life (long post)Sometimes I see girls in the crowd, but I'm in the kind of band that plays until closing, so everybody's usually gone by the time our sets finish. Even if thats not the case I still have to help carry everything into the van, so I couldn't really talk to girls after shows. | /r/seduction | 19/01/17 05:18 AM |
| 1 | 20 and struggling (long post)Thanks a lot, man, that really helped. It's good to know that I'm not alone. | /r/seduction | 01/08/16 03:47 AM |
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