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Lifestylenevertextgoodnight/r/seduction02/07/21 05:46 AM
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Field Reportnevertextgoodnight/r/seduction06/04/22 04:17 AM
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Field Reportnevertextgoodnight/r/seduction05/05/21 02:52 AM
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Fundamentalsnevertextgoodnight/r/seduction19/07/21 02:05 AM
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Field Reportnevertextgoodnight/r/seduction06/05/21 06:59 PM
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Inner Game nevertextgoodnight/r/seduction11/07/21 02:47 AM
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Inner Game nevertextgoodnight/r/seduction10/07/21 01:25 AM
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Field Reportnevertextgoodnight/r/seduction13/05/21 07:00 PM
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Escalation & Calibrationnevertextgoodnight/r/seduction26/06/21 01:18 PM
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Field Reportnevertextgoodnight/r/seduction30/06/21 02:51 AM
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Field Reportnevertextgoodnight/r/seduction29/07/21 12:54 AM
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Inner Game nevertextgoodnight/r/seduction09/07/21 01:53 AM
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Lifestylenevertextgoodnight/r/seduction06/05/22 01:48 PM
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Removed: Specific Situation / post on r/asksedditnevertextgoodnight/r/seduction09/05/21 12:44 AM
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Conversationnevertextgoodnight/r/seduction08/05/21 07:11 PM
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This is cloaked "just be yourself" advice Yes a lot of this stuff is certainly accurate but guys are starting from like below the bottom here and this post is written by someone who already has earned a stripe or two There's like two paradigms that get kicked around from advice givers, the ultra technique game advice and the "life coach" advice then you get guys in the middle that think everything a girl does is a shit test
/r/seduction14/06/23 12:21 PM
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I asked the same question when I bought my Corolla Anyway, the screening process is the same for all women. So if you're asking how do you generally screen women that is a bit different than singling out gold diggers... Start by seeing if you find them interesting to talk to...
/r/seduction21/05/23 03:22 AM
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They want more then fun... they're envisioning you holding their kid in the next family photo
/r/seduction16/05/23 10:44 PM
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I eat that like left over Chinese food
/r/seduction27/10/22 03:15 AM
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Yes every girl I've dated recently was met at the park or dog park with my dog. My dog is a female who loves women and will run up and sit on their feet to "claim" them
/r/seduction29/09/22 03:12 AM
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Bro idk what you're going on about because anyone over 55 would prob give a left nut to be your age again. I know it's hard to have that perspective at 20 but I promise you even in like 2 years if you really put in work and start meeting women this post is going to be something you laugh about if you even remember it But it's good you're experiencing this pain. People don't truly change until they've experienced enough pain in a certain aspect of their life. You see the old way isn't working and…
/r/seduction10/09/22 01:29 AM
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If you're going on without a proper goal you're going to be aimless. I'd wager you probably think you just talk for an arbitrary amount of time and then at some magic moment maybe you touch her forearm, then she laughs and someone lights off a firework Dude just get in there and get her number in less than two minutes or other than that you're pushing to get her on an insta date If you've been watching a lot of YouTube content where they sit and talk with a girl for like 15 minutes, that looks g…
/r/seduction04/09/22 04:51 PM
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You ask for her number You can use verbiage like "let's exchange numbers" to make it more neutral but you still get hers first then text your name and nothing else Because you have to understand, getting the number is not some "make or break" instance. Yeah she may turn you down but she had already decided if she was interested or not a few seconds after meeting you Getting her number is just the first time she may have to verbalize she's not interested so that is why you can do things to gauge …
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:23 AM
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Hobbies don't make you attractive
/r/seduction02/09/22 06:09 AM
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I tell them I don't take pictures of myself because I don't If you're comfortable you can video chat them through whatever app you prefer
/r/seduction01/09/22 02:01 AM
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Go on a middle aged app like Our Time and clean up milfs
/r/seduction01/09/22 01:50 AM
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If you got a girls number in person, your phone call should be purely logistics as she already had made her mind up if she likes you or not when you first met her. It is incorrect to think "oh I got her number, now I'm going to call her and increase her attraction toward me" She's either going to agree to the date or not. There's no mystery, or unexpected outcomes so there's no reason for you to ever feel antsy. There's no perfect time to call, there's no perfect thing to say because again, she …
/r/seduction30/08/22 08:14 AM
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No. I'd just say "hey that's cool" Then leave it It's like after a break up when a girl will text just "hey" then ghost you again. They just want to see if you're still on the line especially if you start asking for dates then she just jerks you around before ghosting you again If she really wants to see you she will reply with more after you just say hello back.
/r/seduction29/08/22 01:59 PM
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Annoying
/r/seduction29/08/22 01:43 PM
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Sucks for you dude
/r/seduction25/08/22 04:21 AM
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It's a bad look for a male to bring up a relationship at all Now if she brings it up then you are correct to not bad mouth your exes and brush it off in a positive light But how about you just be concerned with showing a lovely lady a fun time and leave your "is she the one" concerns at the door for a night because that'll do you better then chasing her around the room like a scared cat with relationship vibes
/r/seduction22/08/22 01:43 AM
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Your last paragraph is spot on. Attraction is not a choice. You can't create attraction if the girl is -0% interested in you but if she's even 1% you have something to work with But on the flip side a guy can reduce it to 0 and below
/r/seduction18/08/22 08:08 PM
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That's why you just go sexual immediately so they know who to respond to when they're getting done with their shit
/r/seduction18/08/22 08:05 PM
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Your job is to be fun. She will bring up relationship talk around 5-7 weeks if she likes you I promise if you bring up anything that sounds like a relationship (ie act like a woman) she'll lose attraction
/r/seduction18/08/22 07:31 PM
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Right well either way, there are lessons to learn from every interaction but at the same time, over analyzing one event will give skewed perspectives because it most likely will not represent how the average of your interactions will go. So I'd just forget about it for now and get more experience and if you ever are in a similar situation you can do things differently than you did the other night
/r/seduction14/08/22 07:55 AM
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Girls are really into it so if you have some basic knowledge you can use it to flirt. Like if you know the elements, say she is a water sign and you're a air sign you can be like "oh you're a Scorpio? Idk if this will work out" A little push pull. Or if you know the months you can guess her sign by her birthday like she's "my bday is may 8th" you can say like "oh a Taurus, huh? Would you describe yourself as a homebody?" It's good because it relates to everyone and like I said most girls will ki…
/r/seduction13/08/22 09:27 PM
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Sounds like a porn addict and there's nothing you can do for people with addiction than let them find where the bottom is on their own
/r/seduction13/08/22 09:20 PM
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Even from your post it seems vague but the only thing I can visualize is once you went over and talked to April, maybe her friend came over sensing she was uncomfortable so they started talking hoping you would go away but you just stayed there and the friend got more uncomfortable you weren't getting the hint so she said something more aggressive like "don't touch her" again, hoping you would just leave And I'm not trying to dog you, I'm just trying to piece things together and since you said "…
/r/seduction13/08/22 09:16 PM
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Just ignore her if you see her and mentally move on. I posted this a year ago, and I haven't seen the girl for a while now at my gym. But I remember there was one time I went into a specific room and she was the only other person in there, and I turned and went somewhere else as to not be in that situation. After a month or two, even if it was awkward at first you'll both be over it One thing I see in your interaction was an unintentional "name test". You asked her name but she never asked yours…
/r/seduction11/08/22 01:39 AM
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While r/seduction is far from perfect, it is a catastrophic error to take dating advice from any other sub Maybe r/askseddit will have some cross over from here Just think you're on a sub about "social skills" on fucking Reddit. You're going to get a bunch of 30yo gamers who fap it to cartoon porn and tell you women like to be treated like their favorite anime character. Or a young dad who flies rc helicopters as his high school sweet heart gets pounded out by her personal trainer and he posts a…
/r/seduction06/08/22 04:19 PM
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There's different stages, at first every thing will seem very mechanical and rigid as you learn certain things The guys that are saying things like don't try too hard etc are probably in a more intermediate, advanced stage where they are getting results more easily because they already put in some work in the past and theyre realizing "hey it's not that hard after all" There is a very true statement that may seem counterintuitive: those who look hungry don't get fed That is generally what people…
/r/seduction03/08/22 10:07 PM
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This is a big mythical made up thing. It doesn't "show confidence" or anything. If you prefer calling people, then call her. If you prefer texting, then text her. It's the precedent you set as you invite this woman into your world. It doesn't matter what she thinks. And calling vs texting is not going to magically make her panties wet. If she likes you, she likes you, if not then she doesn't and the fact if you texted her or called her makes no difference. It's about you. What do you prefer? Do …
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:21 AM
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It means she's doing everything but pulling her panties down and saying "fuck me" and you're not setting up a date so there's nothing to say but hahaha dead end convo
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:14 AM
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Dress how you want to be perceived. People always want to dress how they'd like and be accepted but bottom line that is not how the world works. You are judged by your cover. Basics for beginners are opt for modern cut clothing which is slim and form fitting. There are little things to note as well such as no show socks over having bunched up tube socks at the gym. This response is very generalized
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:02 PM
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I've felt that way. Because I cared too much. I can tell by the post you prob pay too much attention to the girl. She either likes you or not and the more you try to control things you'll keep feeling you did this wrong or that wrong and you'll prob just end up smothering her If you blow up a girls phone and she ghosts you that's one thing. If she gets to know you but cuts it off after 3-4 months she just didn't like you, or maybe you're not good in bed, or whatever. Just let her go because thin…
/r/seduction28/07/22 07:41 PM
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I'm an advocate for sexting but not endless conversations as your objective ought be setting dates, not getting nudes. Sexting can just spice up anticipation between dates. So get real with yourself, if you're not going to be able to get this girl on a date then stop contacting her. Keep your feet in reality (face to face encounters)
/r/seduction28/07/22 03:18 AM
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Yeah. "Np some other time then" and walk away. Or you can invite her to contact you "Np hit me up when you're free" If a girl is throwing around words like busy or crazy schedule, work is crazy or anything, just stop trying to set anything up
/r/seduction27/07/22 03:17 PM
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I don't even like putting "nice to meet you" I just text my name at first. I use it as a way to gauge interest. There's 3 categories usually, no reply, logical reply like maybe she says "nice meeting you" or high interest reply where maybe she starts texting me the next day about random stuff Then I just set dates after that. I may not even contact a girl who doesn't respond to the initial name text This is for getting numbers in person which is what I assumed op was taking about I find texting …
/r/seduction27/07/22 02:55 PM
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I grew up the same way. My experience was shyness, indecision, passiveness, avoidant and codependent behaviors gave off feminine energy. Not to mention younger I dressed very emo. But bottom line, I acted more like a woman than a man and looking back in some ways that was instilled into be by being raised by mostly/all women Without going into too much detail, I had to realize something was wrong which was the first step and that also it's is possible to learn how to act like a man amongst the w…
/r/seduction27/07/22 12:13 AM
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You're right. It was absolutely a "difficult" situation for early dating. The best option would've just been no contact at all. You guys had fun for 2-3 weeks, then you just say "have fun on your trip. Can't wait to hear about it" and that's it. You let her go and if she hits you up after the trip you just continue on The reason for this, is you're allowing her to choose to come back to you and to miss you. If you're constantly in her messages, she'll eventually stop choosing your attention. It'…
/r/seduction27/07/22 12:00 AM
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You already over pursued Take the hint bro, your instincts are correct. Do not contact her unless she hits you up All the little back and forth exchanges sounded like a married couple sending pics to each other. Too much too soon hopefully you enjoyed it while it lasted. Just move on and forget about it Maybe you'll hear from her. Silence is your best option now
/r/seduction26/07/22 11:39 PM
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Not a shit test dude Step one: no incestuous implications Start there
/r/seduction26/07/22 11:35 PM
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You're her second stringer on the bench in case homeboy bounces on her Tell her you're interested in dating her but not if she's exclusive with someone else and she can contact you when she's single and free Every moment you hang out with her she loses 1% respect for you because she sees you'll go along with anything to spend time with her Cut it off like yesterday Also keep in mind if you do end up dating her she'll prob do the same (cheat) to you
/r/seduction26/07/22 06:52 PM
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It's interesting people think the gym is not a social place meanwhile 50% of the people there talk to each other more than actually work out. Just goes to show how limiting beliefs affect people's perspective
/r/seduction26/07/22 02:08 PM
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Still, it's too much. You already called her cute before. A little push pull would be good she says "I come in gross to work" and you can say "yeah you do but I like that low maintenance look" so you still compliment her and playfully agreed she's "gross"
/r/seduction25/07/22 12:53 AM
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She's trying to act humble and is probably uncomfortable with the pedestal you gave her. Depending on the situation it's ok to give a women such a compliment but you also would need to move the conversation along so she doesn't get uncomfortable So the second part of your post, is too much smothering. You called her beautiful once, she got shy, now you're doing it again and just crushing her. At that point you'd want to inject some humor to ease the tension, not double down on your admiration
/r/seduction25/07/22 12:37 AM
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Take it or leave it attitude especially in regards to women and sex. Nothing controls or inhibits you and you don't drain peoples' energy
/r/seduction25/07/22 12:31 AM
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What does rejection have to do with self esteem
/r/seduction24/07/22 07:59 PM
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Men and women are not friends. People who say other wise are usually still in highschool or college with institutional social circles, work with mostly women or they think they're friends with their friends' wives if they're older. Or they're a beta male who stumbled onto this sub and get the need to post about his friendzone experiences. There's nothing wrong with being around women but if a guy thinks he truly has deep platonic relationships he can lean on with a woman, he's only fooling himse…
/r/seduction23/07/22 03:47 PM
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Cool then send a snap and wait to hear from him
/r/seduction22/07/22 10:36 PM
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Curious, are you two exclusive? Typically from my experience as a male, I will always wait for a girl to text me first and I'll reach out around 10 days if I don't hear from her. But ask yourself this: do you want to actually set a date or do you just want him to text you so you got that validation? Cause if you're not trying to see him then don't text. But if you know he's going to set a date and you want to see him then hit him up If he's not responsive after this volley of communication I'd p…
/r/seduction22/07/22 09:03 PM
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No
/r/seduction16/07/22 04:04 AM
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Meet at 7, if the date goes longer than an hour you'd want to be headed elsewhere (yours or hers place) by then anyway. Getting dark outside will be a good way to transition the date to that point
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:53 AM
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Right, to clarify I don't mean to aggressively ignore them but rather if you do ask them out it's possible they'll be thinking "I wonder if he's going to act weird when I see him" so be aware to just treat them as if it never happened I think I'm getting too far ahead but it's good to be aware of these friend circle dynamics. Just keep a good reputation as a fun guy and a leader in group who can take or leave any girl Best regards brother
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:45 PM
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Interesting, so maybe there's a higher chance for either one to respond but I still wouldn't try to do any social media stuff. Just be direct, and if they flake or ghost just ignore them the next time you see them. Let them chase you a little for your attention (in person) because even if they don't agree to a date over text, you'll be on their radar the next time you're all together. This is also why you don't want to text anything goofy because if they go to hit you up down the road you don't …
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:26 PM
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95% chance both leads will go no where so I'd just ask them when they're free to go out and see if they even respond. Wouldn't waste time trying to make a conversation, you're not going to text attraction into them. They're either interested in a date with you or not at this point if they even remember you from the club so trying to get fancy is rejection avoidance You did good though by texting the one girl your name. Good move, I wouldn't even text "hey it's ____" next time just text only your…
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:15 PM
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It's all context. It's ok to be vulnerable as a man but a lot of guys think being vulnerable is treating women like a surrogate mother or acting like a woman themselves
/r/seduction10/07/22 06:13 PM
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Read or listen to Way of the Superior Man if you're serious about making a change. The audio book is uploaded to YouTube. Also, No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover
/r/seduction10/07/22 07:00 AM
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Depends, I mean is it the way you dress? Or is it more that you take a back seat in life? If it's referring to certain behavior, then it's something to look into because women are not trying to date men who act like women and please don't take this as an insult. Just describing a common issue Looking forward to elaboration to offer further help if needed
/r/seduction10/07/22 04:56 AM
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Take note of the red flag and also they're testing you so just ignore it. If there's more flags you see other than this then cut it off
/r/seduction10/07/22 03:00 AM
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Yes there have been times I'd kind of avoid certain places because I knew there would be cute girls but I wasn't "feeling" like approaching so I didn't want to face that feeling of wasted potential or feeling like a loser for not talking to anyone. Or similarly, I've been overly concerned with my appearance even when I'm just running errands or something because you never know if you'll see a cute girl or not Also for me personally my drinking increased heavily while starting out until I cut it …
/r/seduction09/07/22 11:34 PM
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Yes that is the exception
/r/seduction09/07/22 04:14 PM
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Dude you already said "let me know" so at this point you cannot go back on that I'd consider her not interested as she totally blew you off which is a red flag for you anyway. You are not a priority to her so do not treat her as one Wait for her to reply as you walk away and don't look back Don't contact her again unless you hear from her This is something to take note, if you ever catch yourself saying "let me know" to a girl, it's not a good sign. Typically she's acting flakey and the guy is t…
/r/seduction09/07/22 07:09 AM
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Trying to be funny over text is digging your own grave. And the more sarcastic, the worse Girls only laugh at guys jokes when they like him, so you trying to clown with low or neutral attraction women is drying them up like salt on a slug
/r/seduction08/07/22 06:49 PM
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Leave it for the few days You guys texted a bunch then had a very long evening together. That's cool. But that's also a lot of exposure between you two Let the current space work for you. Allow her heart to grow fonder and wonder about you If you were the last one to text her then that's the perfect invitation for her to pick up her phone and hit you up after she's missed you for a few days Let her feel your strength. You already sent her a text about how great of a time you had. So let her retu…
/r/seduction08/07/22 03:31 PM
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Be more vulnerable in sharing things about yourself At first guys get so caught up in trying to remain mysterious and aloof but a girl will see through this or get bored when she realizes you're acting like a borderline psychopath and actually have no life, or at least no life you're willing to share with her. This is the stage where guys are more concerned about their actions then the girls feelings and emotions So next, you'll want to be able to fuck off your ego and be able to share any part …
/r/seduction08/07/22 02:57 PM
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Why would you text her? You barely know her. This is why girls lose interest. One date now the dude treats her like his girlfriend. Not saying that you are doing that Text her next week to set up the next date Unless she texts you within that time period then you can use that opportunity to set the next date One date per week until she starts initiating contact In your current situation, I'd wait till she replies or like I said, text her when you're planning next week's date
/r/seduction08/07/22 02:42 PM
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Because some guys have anxiety doesn't mean it's not easy People are scared of heights but it's not hard to cross a bridge I literally can't think of anything easier than saying hi to someone. But I'm not here to change your mind. Thank you for the post and I was glad to share my thoughts and to read through yours
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:24 PM
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If you're having a bad day I'm sorry and hope things turn around for you
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:15 PM
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Go to the bar, act normal and don't think it's a flex like some neurotic fuckboy but on the same token it is good for social proof. I wouldn't engage in too much conversation with the female bartender because if you get cocky it could look like you're trying to show off so maybe avoid the bar and sit at a table so you don't actually turn off the bartender. Like you said, less is more
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:01 PM
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Cold approach is the easiest way to meet women. It's sad to think people see talking to attractive strangers as some type of abominable thing but I used to be like that so I get it Which is why I'm so adamant in telling people to talk to women cause I know the pain of excuses becoming regret. You got all the time in the world during your twenties but there will come a time that when you see you've been living a tempurpedic life you'll realize saying hi to a damn stranger is the least of your con…
/r/seduction07/07/22 07:52 PM
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I feel you bud I think the biggest thing is if you're not enjoying it take a step back I do see it like a part time job in a way. When the last girl I was seeing started to fade out I was honestly relieved. I guess we just didn't like each other that much. The sex was alright But anyway I think going through these experiences is good. It really has killed the neediness I had even just a few years ago. Knowing I can go out and just start something new with any women I see But yeah I barely have t…
/r/seduction07/07/22 03:00 PM
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You need to break rapport Easiest thing to do is get her talking about herself Maybe she's asking you about traveling So she's saying "have you traveled anywhere" You can say "yes I've been to here and here. What about you? You seem like the type of girl to take a month off and back pack through Europe" So you took the conversation back and you also made a statement about her. She can answer the question or she can respond to the statement and you have now different ways to take the conversation…
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:29 AM
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Sounds like you missed an opportunity to escalate intimacy. You guys could've been making out on the beach but you went into a friend zone conversation about hobbies and interests It's ok, if she really likes you you'll prob have at least one more shot to escalate with her but if you display uncertainty and weakness again she'll prob move onto the guy who is willing to grab her and kiss her and sweep her off her feet If ever a woman is touching you and playing like that she is at least 1% intere…
/r/seduction07/07/22 03:26 AM
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If these women are also close to 30 they may see you becoming a stable option. It's really more of what you can do for them than what they can do for you I'd suggest keeping everything casual till you're past 35 because you don't want to fuck off your best decade in a failed long term relationship
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:16 PM
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Sexually escalate the convo as soon as possible and set up a date She may have 50 dudes asking her what her fav food is but way less or none who she is sexting with She's not going to ghost a nice guy for another nice guy, she's going to flake on the others for the dude who convinced her he's going to fuck her to sleep There will be plenty of time for pillow talk and more platonic conversations after
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:09 PM
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You go as far as you're comfortable. It took me a while to understand that humor is social intelligence and to be dark and brooding all the time is just as off putting as being a clown. This is going to sound fucking lame but when I was a kid I knew girls liked vampire shit like Twilight and vampire diaries so I thought they'd like that outcast, intense seriousness. So I basically never let loose at all and even if you're attractive, that vibe will get you left in the dust with women A phrase I …
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:58 AM
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I know exactly what you're experiencing And you're handling these situations pretty well because they both indicate lowering interest. We can discuss why their interest was lowered but that is a different topic. So good job recognizing to not blow up their phones at this point When a conversation goes cold you reach out once 5-7 days later to start setting up logistics for a date. You want the mindset that you got caught up in your own shit too and now you're just thinking you know what, I wonde…
/r/seduction06/07/22 02:52 AM
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You're doomed bro Game is initial attraction, if you're still trying to have a girl you're seeing long term then your whole paradigm is wrong. She's going to leave
/r/seduction05/07/22 07:18 PM
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Don't focus on trying to please her directly. Like don't think like "I need to make her cum to like me" Focus on your own sensations of fucking her. Get animalistic. Let all inhibitions out the window and really just treat her like a piece of meat within her consensual boundaries. Like you want to be grunting like a fucking boar in the Texas heat. This will allow her to feel comfortable getting loud as well Talk dirty. I don't think I can get hard without talking dirty. Keep sexuality high. Get …
/r/seduction05/07/22 12:40 AM
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Honestly dude I like your attitude don't change for no woman
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:53 AM
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Lol I like how you just shit on her future marriage... It's class if a girl mentions boyfriend, fiance or husband to say "when you see him later tell him he's a lucky guy" because you don't know if she's lying or not but you can still compliment her while respecting her space. And if she's lying she'll be thinking about you were man enough to both respect her space but still be forward with your intentions and prob be second guessing herself Once I said that to a girl who told me she had a bf an…
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:41 AM
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Polo shirts are fine, but what really makes an outfit is your pants, belt and shoes/socks because you can throw anything on top and look good as long as the bottom is on point
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:34 AM
18

She was reading on a blanket at the park and my dog ran up to her. This has happened more than once
/r/seduction03/07/22 05:28 PM
3

Dude... Stop contacting her. She's leaving you in the dust and you're begging for more mistreatment by continuing to be clingy I promise you the last thing she wants is an emotional text talking about your feelings Your silence will speak louder
/r/seduction03/07/22 08:51 AM
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Yes. Met a girl, set a date for later that night. Went out for drinks and came back to my place. So it wasn't an insta date pull but if you think about it, why are any extra steps necessary if you're both free that night to go out... I think many people put a lot of imaginary road blocks in their own way thinking there has to be arbitrary time frames. Getting a number without attempting to set a date in person just adds an extra layer of friction. Unless you're specifically trying to collect con…
/r/seduction02/07/22 10:57 PM
5

Because if you replaced her with an 80 yo grandma you'd have the same exact story. You guys happened to be next to each other, the bus was late and then you had a conversation on the way home about your interests. You could replace the girl with a dude and have the same story. I'm not trying to wreck your success. But there's even a coined phrase out there to describe this event "a 30 min conversation to no where" You described it yourself as a friendly conversation on a long ride home... Again …
/r/seduction02/07/22 06:11 PM
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Good job with the convo but for the sake of your personal growth, this wasn't a cold approach.
/r/seduction02/07/22 02:16 PM
0

7 days max
/r/seduction01/07/22 07:22 PM
6

Won't work long term. If you get a girl to stick around you're going to end up drinking a little every time you see her or want to text her and it'll be a mess to maintain. Always trying to cover your sober beta tracks
/r/seduction01/07/22 07:18 PM
2

I'd ride solo for now I had the same issue with a wing, maybe a little worse. Maybe I'm more like your friend and I like to chill a bit and let things unfold but my buddy would sit there like a damn puppy dog and say "what about her? Look at her. Check out that chick" like rapid fire. Dude had me on edge all the time. No chill and then he'd always rely on me to open, like he just wanted to feed off my approaches. Had to ditch him and I learned I have more success doing my own thing, at least tha…
/r/seduction01/07/22 02:00 PM
0

You weren't her knight in shining armor who could take her and sweep her off her feet. No masculine edge You were and maybe still are a "really nice guy" and that's about it
/r/seduction01/07/22 01:50 PM
3

Set the date in person 100% chance this girl would've flaked when you asked her when she's free and then you don't even have to waste your time texting and waiting But at the same time, never lose your cool in a situation like this because I had a girl once reject my offer, then she in turn asked me out like a month later. This is a rare situation but it taught me to "always leave the door open" because you never know after you show interest if a girl will circle back around to you despite initi…
/r/seduction01/07/22 01:43 PM
3

I'm extremely superficial and probably body dysmorphic so yes I work out every body part twice a week to maintain an attractive physique but on a certain level I do also enjoy being at the gym. Bottom line though is I do it because it makes me look better I don't see how anyone can not work out to be honest and walk around with just a blob or stick for a body. I was extremely skinny growing up and had issues about it. My arms used to look like tooth picks out of my sleeves I've said before "if m…
/r/seduction01/07/22 01:23 PM
1

Bottom line, the self always shines through. If you're feeling uncomfortable people will notice But at the same time it's good you're getting experience and exposure by going out and facing the challenges. You will be uncomfortable sometimes and that's natural Though the more you see these night life people as people who are better than you or have more to offer, you will always be fighting the feeling of being an outcast until you can mentally establish yourself on the same level as everyone el…
/r/seduction01/07/22 01:19 PM
11

Seems like you're just in it to bang out which means you're spending how ever much $$ on a lay. Then you're going to have to hang out with her, take care of her for the weekend or whatever idk man I wouldn't do it. Maybe if she wanted to fly out on her own dime and visit, make her own plans, that's cool. But bottom line i wouldn't want to host an ex coming just to see me
/r/seduction30/06/22 09:08 PM
2

Step in and interrupt them
/r/seduction30/06/22 06:52 PM
10

Red light bulb Having your bed look well put together with nice comforter/blankets and a lot of pillows and throw pillows like it's out of a magazine or something
/r/seduction30/06/22 05:28 PM
1

She sees you as a casual friend. It doesn't even seem like you're trying to set a date or anything so no reason to be talking to her. Stop contacting her maybe she'll hit you up but again if you're not asking her out one on one then there's no point to any of this
/r/seduction30/06/22 12:58 PM
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There is nothing wrong with that approach, all the advice you're getting is information overload You can even open with a leading question "excuse me can I tell you something?" Get her attention "you look very attractive and I wanted to tell you that" How ever it works for you, it's best to show your intention within the first few sentences or else you're going to be wasting time tiptoeing around the idea of rejection and talking to her like a friend to still just get denied. That is not to say …
/r/seduction30/06/22 02:17 AM
1

This is why you don't get married at least until 45yo
/r/seduction30/06/22 02:11 AM
1

Dude why are you texting her before the date? You scared her off with clingy vibes
/r/seduction30/06/22 02:09 AM
2

The answer is tighter clothes but for some reason you said you think it's douchey so idk what kind of solution you think is out there
/r/seduction30/06/22 12:07 AM
1

Just from reading this post I get the vibe that your whole social life is based at your job? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if that's the case that could be part of the problem. Bartending can def be a cool job to meet women but the bartender I knew worked at a venue with a dancefloor/club vibe so after his shift he'd stay there the last 2 hours before it closed. Different atmosphere than a restaurant bar You also touched on insecurities with coworkers, try to do what it takes to get invited to th…
/r/seduction29/06/22 07:45 PM
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Speaking of rackets, with all respect, it sounds like you have your biggest rackets surrounding approaching women. Again, no disrespect, I just read a hundred and one excuses you laid out why you can't or won't talk to girls in public. You know the answer. Maybe you're not emotionally there. Maybe you haven't hit the bottom and experienced enough pain of an unsatisfied life to do something you think is un doable. The last girl I slept with I met in the park walking my dog just minding my own bus…
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:33 AM
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The only way to make a sale is to have a prospect and the only way to be good at sales is to have many prospects (and experience many rejections) Regardless the details, if you don't feel successful with women and you want to know what to do you need to increase the amount of women who enter your funnel Again, a sales reference, you have 0 prospects, no phone numbers and no leads whatsoever. The only thing to do is start knocking on doors and anything other than taking that raw action is avoidan…
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:22 AM
4

Texted too much After the date you don't reach out till next week to set another date (unless she contacts you first) You became a text friend always buzzing her phone and killed any mystique. You see, she gave you positive reinforcement when you finally backed off ie said you'll just be her friend then she hits you up immediately like "hey good idea!" After a first date if a girl is into you she'll usually text you after the date or within 3-4 days. If not, you really do not want to be pursuing…
/r/seduction29/06/22 02:21 AM
3

One thing I've noticed with girls with dogs they'll often refer to herself and her dog as "we" which can be misleading so I always ask "who's we?" In those situations But it's is totally fine to straight ask if they have a boyfriend. It may seem like that gives them an out to end the conversation but overall if they take that out they prob would've just rejected you later anyway
/r/seduction28/06/22 05:38 PM
1

Dude I get it What has helped me is realizing I was personalizing the rejection. Even when I know to expect a majority rejection, I still tend to make it about me when truly a rejection simply speaks for where the girl is at It's like if I sell a vacuum cleaner to 1 out of 10 people, and I approach 100 people I need to understand that that is what it takes to sell 10 vacuum cleaners and the rejections are a mandatory part of the process and it has nothing to do with me... it's just 90 people did…
/r/seduction28/06/22 02:57 PM
1

Heads up this guy is going around on posts spitting negativity. While this subject can be interpreted many ways, just saying negative white knight shit is not helpful
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:40 PM
2

All of your dates should imply sex (until you're exclusive) meaning there are logistics to go back to your place from the date You can maybe get away with a platonic date the first time like, idk, a museum or something but if a guy keeps setting dates that don't imply sex she's going to think he's just a friend and lose interest prob after the second date
/r/seduction26/06/22 06:33 PM
1

Uh you may think everything is great and you're in love but bottom line, you like her more than she likes you at this point. This post sounds like it was written by a woman so I bet you're acting needy. I'd wager she feels smothered by you and you need to back away and give her space and get back on your purpose in life and not make her the center of everything
/r/seduction26/06/22 06:29 PM
1

Dude whether what you did was right or wrong doesn't matter now Just got to wait to hear from her and see what she says. Maybe she'll mention her parents, maybe she'll just talk about the date. No way to know. You can message me if you want when she replies to you Just give her space right now and she'll respond when she's ready
/r/seduction26/06/22 03:20 AM
2

Who is recognizing you? Nearby employees or something? If this is the case I'd recommend socializing with all the regulars so they know your name and will welcome you when you stop by
/r/seduction26/06/22 03:00 AM
1

I saw you said you texted her about the weekend. Don't contact her again until she responds even if it takes 5 days or something. I'd say you're already on thin ice texting her first all the time. So just get busy doing other things and wait to hear from her. Show with your actions you can give her that space and she's free to come to you at her pace
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:56 AM
2

Dude you're fine but after the second date she should be initiating texts mostly. I wouldn't listen to contrary advice to text more. Yes, her texting slowly is not the best sign so all you need to do is match and mirror her. Honestly I'd pull back until she reaches out then set up the next date If you start thinking you need to initiate a text every day like the other guy says then she's def going to stop responding all together. Think, if she's taking 24 hours to respond why would you text her …
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:49 AM
1

No contact, could be 3 months till you may hear from him but anything you do, if he really is over you right now, will turn him off even more Keep in mind your suggestions are bordering on stalker behavior and for both of your sakes, don't contact him till you hear from him and even though you don't want to hear it you're going to be single until you move on
/r/seduction25/06/22 08:49 PM
9

I don't have a short term solution for you. If a girl still lives at home herself, she'll prob not think it too weird to go over to your family home. But just know to make getting your own place a top priority goal, it will greatly increase your conversation. I personally would not live with roommates, but if you wouldn't mind that, that is better than living at home
/r/seduction25/06/22 08:42 PM
5

You're not setting a date that's why. people are not on tinder to meet friends. You're asking her for drawings while she's getting ready to go meet up with another dude who said come over let's fuck
/r/seduction25/06/22 07:48 PM
1

Lunch date during work is friendzone territory. She's already grooming you You need to meet with this chick in the evening not related to work. If there's not an opportunity for sex (ie logistics to get to your place after the date) then don't agree to it Even if you don't sleep with her on the first date it needs to be implied that you can and will and there's no mistake in her mind that this is a friendly encounter
/r/seduction25/06/22 07:42 PM
4

Girls will stick around for a couple weeks if they don't cum with you but just like any human would, if she's not getting an orgasm she will stop coming around. Imagine having sex with a girl and she just stops as you're like 50% to orgasm, you'd prob stop hanging out with her too. There is a down voted comment which speaks truth, you don't want to focus on her cumming but rather you want to focus on fucking the shit out of her and she prob will. But if you're constantly like "did you cum? Did y…
/r/seduction25/06/22 07:24 PM
0

Also an influx women coming in giving nice guy advice
/r/seduction25/06/22 07:18 PM
0

Toxic projection you obv don't get approached
/r/seduction25/06/22 02:56 PM
2

Yes it's not an issue
/r/seduction24/06/22 06:07 PM
3

My name is George I'm unemployed and live with my parents
/r/seduction24/06/22 05:12 PM
1

It's ok to be an introverted type but keep in mind introversion and extroversion are only theories and do not biologically or scientifically define anyone. I had to approach attraction as a skill to learn because I was also quiet and shy. I need to break it down, and try things like learning a new sport. I've read plenty of books on the subject and watch videos everyday about relationships and other things. But the most important thing is I do talk to women in public. You can sit in your room al…
/r/seduction23/06/22 06:56 PM
6

You should tell me about it over dinner
/r/seduction22/06/22 09:44 PM
7

I get you dude. I really don't give a shit about talking to people generally But I do like talking to girls obviously. So I just make it as short as possible. It was Mike Mehlman on YouTube who opened the door for me to understand it's not about 15 minute great rapport conversations to pick up women You can basically just introduce yourself, exchange names and then ask her out and get the same results Further research as shown that first impressions are made with seconds, and in pursuasive inter…
/r/seduction22/06/22 09:09 PM
19

25 dates is more than most guys on here so it's got to be things you're doing on the date that are putting out undesirable vibes. Just from this post, I'd suggest maybe posting how some of your dates went like things you talked about, things you might've said, things she said etc Elaborate more on the rejections
/r/seduction22/06/22 06:27 PM
36

Are you telling me I have to brush my teeth and shower?
/r/seduction22/06/22 06:23 PM
2

Love a book recommendation
/r/seduction22/06/22 05:05 PM
3

Too many movies and tv shows
/r/seduction21/06/22 09:19 PM
1

Awesome job man. It's great you recognized you should've set a date in person. Because your intuition is right, her saying she's busy and blah blah is her setting up being flakey or not responding to you. So if that was me, before getting her # I would've probed a bit of she was free to hang out later tonight (same day) Many times women will be receptive in the moment with you but go cold after the interaction especially with no date set. Also upon getting her number it's good to immediately tex…
/r/seduction21/06/22 04:00 AM
1

The answer to what you're asking is creating a date in person whether you have an insta date, you see her later that same day or you set a date with her in person before you leave the interaction. Taking a number with no date set is a last resort and is a less than ideal situation. The things the other comment mentioned will not decrease the chance of ghosting. Things like having a stronger interaction, a longer conversation, more rapport are all arbitrary. They do not increase or decrease the c…
/r/seduction21/06/22 03:34 AM
1

Appearance is 55% of your first impression
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:53 PM
1

Idk about advice dude but I feel you If a girl doesn't text me I don't reach out either so things just fizzle. I'm jaded a bit so I never chase. I'll get a girls # and like if she doesn't text me first after the exchange I don't even reach out to her I'll say though there are times I got to realize that if I want things to continue it does take work. So it's always an evaluation of if I'm willing to put in the work to maintain things with a specific girl because even if they text me a lot at fir…
/r/seduction20/06/22 06:29 AM
7

Awesome. good job You never can judge/know which girl will contact you or ghost or anything else
/r/seduction20/06/22 06:15 AM
2

Told you earlier come get it right We can watch homeward bound I know you fuck with that movie
/r/seduction20/06/22 05:15 AM
21

There's no green light to approach If a guy sees anything about a girl he finds attractive he should approach or he runs the risk of starting to limit is action based on things like "well I couldn't get a clear view of her face" "she wasn't that hot" blah blah then he starts talking himself out of approaching
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:21 AM
2

I understand what you're saying. It seems like you got some experience but are still hitting some pain points. But that's good cause you're getting better through the experiences If a guy still feels like he is playing a "too cool for school" character, he's still probably validation seeking internally even if he's learned to tone it down outwardly. There's still a needy soul, let's say. So yeah, it's like you understand you need to be sexual, and other things but if a guy is still looking for a…
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:01 AM
24

To attract attention
/r/seduction20/06/22 01:54 AM
115

Ey bro that's good One thing that stuck with me years ago when I was learning to overcome anxiety was "anxiety and excitement are the same emotion except you're either expecting reward or pain" It just reminded me how you said you feel both excitement and anxiety I'd say it's all excitement. That's what I tell myself if I'm getting a bit nervous. I'm really just getting excited. Thanks for the hype post. It is fun approaching
/r/seduction20/06/22 01:50 AM
8

"Yeah it'd look better on my floor" then stop talking Also, those emojis bro... I'd drop that but do you
/r/seduction20/06/22 01:46 AM
5

Are you looking for compliments? We could walk my dog in the park and then I'd bring you to my place downtown and fuck you right There
/r/seduction19/06/22 11:02 PM
2

I mean anything is possible but what I'm trying to elucidate is it's not the social media that is the problem In your terms, it's accepting "yellow light" offers. It's overall going to be a bad habit especially if this guy is just talking to a couple girls a month or not even approaching girls really. Hell keep reading so far into these outlier possibilities that he's missing the point that when a girl is really down, she down. She'll give her number, she'll go home with you, she'll go on an ins…
/r/seduction19/06/22 07:52 PM
2

Don't matter, you can see her but you just ignore her. Seriously, if she's not trying to hang out with you for a date or anything like that then you don't have time for her friend zone parties. Dude it took me years of getting burned till I changed from the "gay friend" mentality with girls. I was the guy that would sleep over girls houses because their parents knew I wouldn't do shit I bet you're probably a bit more quiet then other people, maybe more reserved. That's good. Girls find that attr…
/r/seduction19/06/22 07:41 PM
2

Dude. Stop contacting her You're just going to keep hurting yourself over this chick Damn this story is so fucking sad but I did that same shit in high school She basically has you watch her purse as she is fucking another dude. I mean if that's who you want to be, then keep hanging out with them. But if you want to start making a change now, you can't stand for that shit. If you like a girl romantically then being "just friends" is not an option. But also you going on about how shy you are and …
/r/seduction19/06/22 06:51 PM
4

She doesn't mind having you as a new fan but she wasn't about to give you her actual # "A girl will crawl through broken glass" for a guy she likes, so giving you her number wouldn't be a problem if she thought anything more of you than a new social media follower Guys read way into social media because it creates another way to make excuses in their head. Bottom line. You asked for her number. She offers social media. I'm sorry, did you say Snapchat? No. She's already stringing you along. When …
/r/seduction19/06/22 06:31 PM
5

Anxiety is a needy behavior. Avoiding rejection is that neediness.You're perpetuating your cycle of neediness by not approaching. The only way to overcome this is to take action. It's not the success of a date or a lay that overcomes the needy behavior. But it is the act of accepting your rejections as a mandatory process of success.
/r/seduction19/06/22 08:46 AM
2

I laughed at the second sentence there. But I mean good job man. What do you think you could've done different?
/r/seduction19/06/22 08:36 AM
1

Well props for going out and taking action but... Do you even enjoy night clubs? Hard to tell by your post You touched on it, if you're not having fun you're not going to positively influence any women
/r/seduction19/06/22 07:19 AM
2

He might be bored or horny and testing the waters with you Some projection, when I back track it's because I haven't met a new girl in a while or something like that. So I'll hit up old contacts Realistically if he was having success with a current female he prob wouldn't be going backwards like that You could try being straight forward if you really want to just fuck. But if he's just jerking you around I'd go silent until he mans up and sets a date with you
/r/seduction19/06/22 05:10 AM
4

It's fine. You being a woman, your natural affectionate instinct is almost always appropriate and if he is half a man he'll be able to receive it well
/r/seduction19/06/22 05:03 AM
3

You dodged a bullet. Maybe you could've slept with her but she sounds like a headache down the road Do you think you could've talked her into staying? Now, I'm not saying to grovel at her feet but I always try to see if I can hail mary things even as they're burning to the ground as adverse experience
/r/seduction19/06/22 04:57 AM
1

No stop thinking of excuses
/r/seduction19/06/22 04:50 AM
1

It's up to the individual's discretion. Explaining the repercussions is one thing but I'm not here trying to change his entire worldview. Some guys flirt with taken women. Some don't. Some guys have that thorough integrity and some are more conniving.
/r/seduction19/06/22 04:05 AM
1

Yeah once after a run I was feeling the high and I was at a corner store buying some water I turn and the cute girl at the counter is looking at me and I just stare her down as I approached with a smirk. We had a good talk, laughed a bunch but I saw a ring on her finger so I let it go Speaking of, time to go for a run
/r/seduction19/06/22 01:43 AM
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Yes it's all up to how you feel about it. Some people believe in karma, some guys are more cutthroat so do whatever you feel is appropriate as long as she reciprocates But keep in mind this: reputation. If you're in a big city, and you'll never see this chick and her friends again, then whatever. But if this is like at a university, or a smaller town where word gets around, it is a pro move to cultivate a good reputation and avoid things like talking to other peoples' girlfriends and you create …
/r/seduction19/06/22 01:37 AM
1

I've only had one girl ever bring up social media. It's such a non issue. Yes, it can help in some ways but it is not a vital component if you're mainly meeting women in person.
/r/seduction19/06/22 01:32 AM
1

Dude that "hey goddess" line had me rolling Even in sales a 20% close rate is considered high. So even if you were at the top of your game, you'd need 8 rejections to every 2 successes. So, you being somewhere in the middle, is even less than that. Could be 19 rejections for every 1 success. You talked to like 4-5. By the law of averages alone, that approach will never work because even if you were elite, you still didn't contact enough prospects. Keep going at it
/r/seduction19/06/22 01:28 AM
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Go in, ignore her don't look at her and enjoy yourself Bro all you did was ask out a girl you thought was cute It will only be weird if you like eye fuck the shit out of her but it seems you know not to do that. You're fine
/r/seduction19/06/22 01:16 AM
3

Did she answer the accident facetime? How did that all go? Need a bit more clarity where you're at with the interactions with her
/r/seduction18/06/22 03:22 AM
1

Dude you're going on about cowardice but 90% of the dudes here could not approach a woman, let alone within 2 weeks of lurking this sub... Honestly, how straight forward you were is good. Some people get caught up in David Blaine Street magic pick up where they think they got to put on a show and impress everyone on the god damn block but in reality it's not much more than what you're doing Approach, show intent and then ask what she's doing so maybe you guys can hang out instantly, or get her #…
/r/seduction18/06/22 01:24 AM
2

Dating apps are good because they're essentially passive leads. So while you can't always be out meeting women, your profile will be filtering in girls 24/7 That being said I only meet women in person because I don't have social media or take pictures, things like that. Not my style but I do see the value like I described
/r/seduction18/06/22 01:15 AM
10

Start rapping biggie songs
/r/seduction17/06/22 07:15 PM
1

Just focus on having a good time. If you're not enjoying the process it will manifest in your approaches And talk to everyone you can to keep you in a social state (not just attractive women)
/r/seduction17/06/22 06:12 PM
1

Nah try sending on Reddit chat
/r/seduction17/06/22 05:16 PM
2

Dude I get you're trying to be funny but really you're just telling her you went home alone and didn't do shit It seems you're just enjoying the situation which is cool, I don't want to kill your vibe but I'd just straight ask her out because you're not going to influence her decision by trying to soften her up with a joke. She either will meet up with you or she won't at this point regardless what you text her. In other words she's already interested or she's not Also keep in mind you can call …
/r/seduction17/06/22 10:15 AM
1

Bro I've done the same thing years ago. Kissed a girl at the bar then went over and started acting like her boyfriend or something. I didn't know what I was doing. She basically told me to leave But the thing is it she has you on ig she could be messaging you if she wanted. Also take the hint she didn't give you her # Good job getting a make out but I'd let it go and take this experience as a lesson in when to back off
/r/seduction17/06/22 10:06 AM
2

Yeah bro good job taking action But the alcohol is going to hold you back in the long run. Keep going out at night if you enjoy it but consider talking to some women during the day when you're not drinking as you continue your 100 approach goal
/r/seduction17/06/22 10:00 AM
1

What's going on? Just know if you're thinking you're going to throw a hail mary it's prob not going to happen... But at the same time if you have nothing to lose then just lay it out there and burn the ships
/r/seduction17/06/22 09:55 AM
1

Well find out what night she's free then just suggest "how's x at 7:00?" Then she should confirm if that's good Now if she texts you throughout the week you can reply but if you're not hearing from her don't try to force communication
/r/seduction16/06/22 09:35 PM
2

The last option in your title Make sure the date is definite (date, time and place) and you'll see her there That's it
/r/seduction16/06/22 08:19 PM
2

What are you taking
/r/seduction16/06/22 05:37 PM
1

That feeling you got is just like dating in general If you can't lose them you'll never have them. When you're texting you got to be ok if you never hear from her again. You text what you want but knowing things like sarcasm can't be translated properly through text. So your friends apps are text heavy. Cool. He getting laid? I can text a girl paragraphs too... Actually, I bet most guys on here who aren't getting the results they want have paragraphs upon paragraphs of texting Yeah, online datin…
/r/seduction16/06/22 02:08 PM
2

Change her mood not her mind
/r/seduction16/06/22 01:56 AM
9

Good job man Rejection is required and rejection is what lays a foundation of non neediness. Once you cross that line where you know you can talk to any woman you're not going to be tripping out on just one girl YouTube search Mike Mehlman if you want a realistic and cutthroat insight into cold approach
/r/seduction15/06/22 05:19 PM
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Bro it happens Like the other comment implies, when you meet another girl you'll forget about this one But you'll still have the experience and wisdom you gained so you are even at this moment a better option for the next woman you meet and a better version of yourself than you were even yesterday So maybe you fucked up Well, you'll meet another girl, do a little better then fuck up again Then you'll meet another girl, do better and fuck up again Eventually you'll say you know what I'm the best …
/r/seduction15/06/22 05:48 AM
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Let's get deeper and say you're only as non needy as the amount of rejections you've taken today
/r/seduction15/06/22 05:47 AM
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Fake eye lashes, colored in eyebrows, fake tan, fake nails, excessive make up. I don't fuck with any of that hunger games capitol look Abnormal alcohol or drug use. Marijuana use. I quit drinking and smoking I just can't be around it at least in a relationship Male orbiters Don't like dogs
/r/seduction15/06/22 05:32 AM
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Women like sex more then men do And they want it animalistic beast mode from a guy who can deliver
/r/seduction15/06/22 03:16 AM
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Without getting to expensive, just always bring the conversion back to her So she tells you that story for example and you frame your questions "how did you feel" "did you ever think" "that must've been hard for you" "how did you overcome" etc As long as you can keep talking about "her" you'll eventually be able to pivot away into other topics And just to remind myself as well as anyone else, it's not the exact words we say but the positive emotions we cultivate and how she feels toward us. So I…
/r/seduction15/06/22 03:03 AM
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Dude Look at it from the outside. It sounds like she lives with him (you said she's looking for an apt and a car) Like yeah she probably gets some feel good emotions from flirting with you from time to time like eating ice cream a couple times a week But then she's got her real life right in her face every time she goes home, an ex she don't like, a life she not happy with, no car etc Like this is a recipe for flaky behavior but it's not even "playing games" she's got a lot going on, anyone woul…
/r/seduction15/06/22 02:46 AM
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It didn't need correction. I was raised by only women so I probably understand more than these nerds do. I didn't say anything brash or harsh so don't let incel down votes stigmatize the advice but I'm happy it helped you in some way. Historically young men were specifically taken away from his mother's care and sent out with other men to learn and grow. Now males will live with their mom into his 30s and 40s and then realize they fucked up and are doing anything to turn his life around or just …
/r/seduction15/06/22 12:45 AM
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We all started somewhere I get it General nutrition? A natty overloading on carbs is going to look watery especially over his abs "Fruits and veggies are super important" is a non statement. What does that even mean? Fructose? Fiber? Vegetables are ok. Fruits are donuts from trees. Eat a banana if you want to, whatever. 120 calories later and you're still hungry. Carbs in moderation are fine but if you think that carbs provide "cheap energy", well that is not even a statement of health. Yeah a c…
/r/seduction14/06/22 11:30 PM
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Because you're coming to take instead of offer
/r/seduction14/06/22 09:57 PM
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Move away from your female family members and limit contact until you got your life together how you want it
/r/seduction14/06/22 09:47 PM
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No, don't contact her for 6-8 days when you'll ask her when she's free for another date It sounds like you were the last to text and she's left you on read so that's already an undesirable position 2. You'd never contact a woman more than once a week anyway (unless she is contacting you first), so in this case you really want to tread lightly and not over pursue So give her space, maybe you'll hear from her which would be ideal. Again, if you don't hear from her then ask her for another date aft…
/r/seduction14/06/22 09:41 PM
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Eat low carb so you don't get skinny fat while gaining weight For example your breakfast was almost all carbs. Try eggs, meat and cheese for most of your meals. If you're randomly increasing your calories and it's a shit ton of carbs you're going to get puffy no matter how skinny you are Anyway just keep grinding in the gym and make sure your clothes fit nicely which can be hard when really skinny Without going into a whole workout routine, make sure you're doing lateral raises 2 - 3 times a wee…
/r/seduction14/06/22 09:26 PM
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Well your post is very broad but you can't care what others think and you can't filter what you want to say Being more toned down than others is fine but thinking you're inferior to others is not fine. Now you didn't mention inferiority but I'm just sharing concepts
/r/seduction13/06/22 10:56 PM
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Like someone else said, I was seeing a girl that wanted to "take it slow" We had sex after about a month, I never pursued her. Then all we'd do is go out for dinner and fuck or she'd come over and we'd fuck The thing is she told me early on she has commitment issues and then I found out she married young and was divorced all in her 20s Anyway I haven't heard from her for 2 weeks but I just let her contact me when she wants to hang out and have sex. I thought we could maybe be something but she g…
/r/seduction13/06/22 10:12 PM
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Well by the tone of the post itself you seem a bit of a goofball so if this was the same energy you had on the date there is def nothing sexual or polarizing Then there are little things, like clarifying it's a date, confirming the date is still on, arm over shoulder too soon, assuming you guys would take a picture together like you're bf and gf. Just way too platonic and smothering without any calibration Also, going to lunch or daytime event is also implying platonic interaction which a more s…
/r/seduction13/06/22 03:02 PM
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The thing is if you're not naturally enjoying yourself it will not work out It's like if you don't like bookstores then why would you try to pick up women at the bookstore The guys that pick up women at the club or night life enjoy the club or night life on a certain level. Or to take it a step further, if they are YouTube creators then it is their job to be there. But if it's not for you that's fine
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:13 PM
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Take it slow means don't pursue her. Let her contact you But honestly it's a bit of a red flag. It's a low key manipulation tactic. How much shit can she give you and you will be compliant. She will eventually start trying to jerk you around, maybe flake on you So you will end up setting boundaries when you guys aren't even exclusive At the end of the day I'd consider her a friend with benefits and don't chase her at all
/r/seduction13/06/22 03:53 AM
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Ok I get you Now this may sound brash but treat every girl you meet from now on like a friend with benefits You're getting too caught up on "I want a good woman to stick around and eventually have kids and get married et cetera" and you're treating certain women different It's fine you want that. But it's not fine to treat women differently because you want that Just take this action. Treat them all like you just want to have fun and have sex and drop everything else The women who are really int…
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:57 AM
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Good concepts. Success with women is directly proportional to capacity for rejection
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:51 AM
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Well I think your paradigm is all wrong by how you described it. Just talking to women about the weather is not "seduction" or "approaching" So now that you're comfortable being social, maybe you need to try the opposite end of the spectrum. Just be direct "hey I saw you and thought you were attractive" exchange names then just ask her out without any type of conversation. See how that goes and find the middle ground
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:46 AM
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No. These girls are not flaky based on your response time. They are flaky because they are flaky. Honestly it's good that you're not available 24/7. A girl will eventually take a guy for granted that is always available. Especially if she contacts him late at night and he always answers. But it is true a girl may want to see you one night, but then is not available the rest of the week. Again, this isn't based on things you're doing wrong. A big part of dating is "timing" Sometimes people are op…
/r/seduction13/06/22 12:57 AM
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Don't text. A girl will reach out when she wants to see you If you don't hear from her after 7 - 9 days then you can see if she's free This is not arbitrary or playing games. If the male is the one reaching out then no more than once a week. When she starts initiating, you can make plans more than once a week based on her contacting you. Also bro, I feel you. I've had times when I didn't feel like I was great in bed but you can only get better through experience
/r/seduction13/06/22 12:44 AM
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Well firstly it seems you're approaching indirect I promise instead of talking about her coffee, saying even like "hey excuse me ... You're very pretty" you'll get different results immediately But as far as the concept of one sided conversations, with initiating conversation you automatically assume the burden of the conversation. If you're feeling a bit nervous, imagine how she's feeling. Just because she's the girl that doesn't mean she has anything impressive to say And then this filters fur…
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:48 PM
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Uh you finger yourself as he jerks off That's about it. Just figure out where you're going to set your phone, and also you'll maybe end up moving the phone around with one hand to get different angles so keep a hand free
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:24 PM
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Either way she's keeping you on a string. I wouldn't contact her unless you're going to specifically be in her city. Don't travel an hour to her just for coffee If she keeps messaging you, invite her over again. Maybe she wanted you to escalate more romantically then just asking "do you want it?" Girls really want guys to build that comfort and feel like she's not being a slut What I mean is, it's possible she would sleep with you if you take it slow physically instead of just posing a yes/no qu…
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:18 PM
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Sounds like you answered your own question If you're not clear with your intent all you're doing is talking to strangers ie it's not seduction. Talking to strangers doesn't get you laid If you're trying to sell a car but you never mention the car to people, you're not selling a car
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:06 PM
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Yeah I fucked up twice. This was back when I was drinking. The second time I saw her I asked her out again and apologized for the first date (months before) I was drunk on the date and she walked out basically Anyway, she smelled booze on my breath the second time and called me out for it and walked away. The only reason we interacted again is because I'd see her at the dog park time to time and her dog really likes me and one day after ignoring her for months I talked to her again. I think that…
/r/seduction11/06/22 10:40 PM
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You did the right thing. You could maybe try to get her out by sending a straight forward text saying you wish to see her one on one but really that is if you feel like putting in the effort and then you'd also have to set a boundary about her calling you an asshole The other way to handle it would've been to ignore her and make friends with her friends and have her chase your attention amongst the group but that is a lot of effort and not worth it if you're not feeling it
/r/seduction11/06/22 05:12 AM
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Correct, I phrase it "act like a friend get treated like a friend"
/r/seduction11/06/22 05:01 AM
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No that is what a man with self respect does and it's awesome you had the right instincts You're obviously not interested in just being friends so you put your offer on the table and walk away. She's got your number she can call you when she misses you Either way, don't look back Maybe when she sees you with a new girl on your arm she'll have a change of heart
/r/seduction11/06/22 04:57 AM
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You cannot build comfort (increase attraction) over text She either likes you or not from the interaction. Any texting thereafter is either neutral toward attraction or can lower it but cannot increase it. Again, a high interest girl will text you first or at least respond to just your name. A medium or low interest girl won't. But the thing is, you texting more wouldn't have changed that. Her saying "thank you:)" is almost worse than nothing. She's already thinking "here we go this guy is going…
/r/seduction11/06/22 04:45 AM
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Well the thing is you don't need to be sending "nice to meet you and a compliment That's why they respond to you like a onlyfans subscriber From the beginning you're investing everything. Then if you start trying to neg they're going to think you have antisocial personality disorder If you're meeting these girls on the street, that's good. You just simply text your name right after you save her number. Do it right on the spot and don't even mention it This way they can reply and you've invested …
/r/seduction11/06/22 03:10 AM
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If you're handshaking women you're romantically interested in that is reflective of your problem. Of course we could use more details but you're obviously not presenting yourself as a sexual option. Men who are successful with women never clarify if it's a date. Whenever guys bring that up it, they're probably acting like the "gay male girlfriend" So benign and neutered that a girl doesn't even see you as a person capable of having sex. Either trying to sneak under the radar as a nice guy, or ac…
/r/seduction10/06/22 09:06 PM
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You hang out and have fun or don't hang out Trying to have some serious talk is exactly what you're trying to avoid. It's been a month, I don't think you're going to be hurting anyone But you're right. If you're going to go all dramatic with some speech then be prepared to not see her anymore after that. But I'd just keep things light and playful. There's no need to get heavy and reinforce needy behaviors. Let her bring it up later on when you're actually ready to move. Because you can't have it…
/r/seduction10/06/22 08:54 PM
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Well catering to drunk girls is clown behavior Aside from that a man is always masculine first, then fun, then deep. And he can bounce between fun and deep while the masculinity umbrella is always upheld And also it's important to remember that the most important thing are the EMOTIONS a girl FEELS toward us. So at first a guy may feel like he's following a ton of rules to be seductive, until he gets the wherewithal to understand how to conjure and cultivate positive emotions and not think he's …
/r/seduction09/06/22 07:52 PM
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Right, I don't say anything And yeah I've done that with friends too in the past but I've had shitty friends so I was conditioned into always checking in and things like that The thing is checking in like that does nothing. If she's going to flake, it's not like checking in is going to remind her not to flake. And vice versa, if she's going to be there, checking in is just redundant and now you just texted her more than you had to
/r/seduction08/06/22 02:11 PM
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Regular apartment. I didn't just move cities I moved to a cheaper state as well with no connections here. Started from scratch. That's how bad I wanted to get away. Only got one life.
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:15 AM
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"I don't want people feeling like I'm ignoring them" well that is a covert way of trying to control outcomes. You don't want them to feel a certain way. In other words, by your actions you are trying to influence them. Dude please know this is all to help you. I've been there. I had to uncover layers and layers of how I tried to manipulate outcomes or other people's perceptions before I could let it go. If you think I'm being nit picky than fine. If it helps take it, if not then leave it. And ag…
/r/seduction07/06/22 11:11 PM
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I wouldn't text or confirm if you've already made definite plans Confirming is a weak move although it is very logical to justify it I see why many guys think it's appropriate Also, it's good you're reaching out to improve. Since you maybe still see texting as a "game" that tells me you're still too attached and outcome dependant, and if you're waiting to text back maybe you're not as busy as you could be. And also, you should never have the feeling "you're getting to know someone" over text. Yo…
/r/seduction07/06/22 10:40 PM
2

I moved to a college town where living down town is more affordable than a major city. Dating logistics were not my primary goal at the time, it was simply to live somewhere more affordable but now that I've experienced how beneficial it is I don't think I'd live in the suburbs again or a major city
/r/seduction07/06/22 10:22 PM
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Dick pics obv
/r/seduction02/06/22 08:24 PM
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Good Only one way to go from here. And think about if you should even be wasting time with those "friends" Anyone who gets a lot of dates has been stood up or ghosted at least once because it's just part of the process. Keep talking to women and you'll get better at sorting out the flakes
/r/seduction02/06/22 07:09 PM
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So first of all, assume you'll hear from her But if you don't, you're just straight forward: 1 "hey when are you free again?" 2 "are you free x day at x time?" Or you can be more specific to what you'd like to do "hey when are you free for dinner?" "When are you free to come over?" "What's your schedule like this weekend?" So you can say it however you'd like but all you're doing is asking her out again or at first getting her availability then setting up the date You can even be a little more s…
/r/seduction02/06/22 07:03 PM
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Reach out and talking is for in person dates so wait till next week and ask her out There's no texting games you just have too much free time Dude think about it, this girl is a perfect damn stranger and you're about to cut off your hand because you want to blow up her phone I'm not trying to dog you, just give you some perspective. If you had a good time, great. Let her live her life, you live yours then you have something to talk about when you see her next week When she starts initiating you …
/r/seduction02/06/22 02:23 PM
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No messages till you hear from her or ask her out again in a week Let her come to you. Or you'll ask her out again next week. That's it
/r/seduction01/06/22 10:20 PM
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Can't say if it's the main reason but it's prob at least 50% of the issue Try it next time and yes it'll take a lot of self control at first to wait a week till she hits you up but once you realize the pattern you'll know you'll be hearing from her when she wants to see you again. Sometimes it's 3 days, some times it's 6 days, sometimes 8 days... All you have to do is treat her right while you guys are in person and then let her miss you after she leaves
/r/seduction01/06/22 10:04 PM
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Yes, ask her out once a week until she starts hitting you up first then you can set dates when she contacts you If you start chasing her every 2-3 days she going to be gone. Let her come to you If she hits you up first in this next week everything will be a lot easier for you going forward so give her that space to think about you. Like I said if you had a good time and laid the pipe right she'll most likely hit you up in a few days
/r/seduction01/06/22 09:49 PM
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One week if you don't hear from her Give her space to reach out to you. If you guys had a good time she'll prob contact you around 3-4 days
/r/seduction01/06/22 09:41 PM
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You know how I know you're not busy enough
/r/seduction01/06/22 08:10 PM
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It's normal that's why you learn to be efficient and not caught up on one girl Getting your first few numbers is exciting. Then it becomes almost pointless Because you'll learn the best option is an insta date or scheduling a date right on the spot and getting a number is like last resort option instead of a primary goal
/r/seduction01/06/22 05:49 PM
1

Dog park
/r/seduction01/06/22 05:47 PM
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I'd ask her out When a woman reaches out you assume she wants to see you and you set up a date She's not going to ask you out but she'll say something like hm ... "Don't be a stranger" which would be a man's cue to reply with a date offer or inquiring of her schedule ie men take action If she agrees great. If she's ghosty then you stop contacting her The text you sent doesn't imply a response. So maybe she tested the waters a bit and you just gave a platonic response and that's it. Dead end
/r/seduction01/06/22 05:42 PM
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Whatever you would do. Dating is inviting a woman to join your life. If you start off with contrived things you don't normally do, the novelty will eventually wear off And one thing is the dates are to end in sex. I've had dates walking my dog, then go back to my place. Get dinner, back to my place. Hike, back to my place. Or just come over and spend 3 hours in my bed, listening to music Really you'd want a girl just getting used to coming over to your place after a month into month 2-3
/r/seduction31/05/22 10:40 PM
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Tell her to come over
/r/seduction31/05/22 06:39 PM
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Read the signs bro If you decide to reach out just consider that you'll never contact her again if she is ghosty or flakes Honestly you probably should burn the ships since you're essentially holding on to nothing This is not to be rude to you but if you want to get over neediness you got to be ok with never seeing girls again no matter how much you like them
/r/seduction31/05/22 06:28 PM
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Go with the teacup Yorkie one ...
/r/seduction31/05/22 01:40 PM
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Well here's the thing too, even when guys don't "mess up" a girl will still pull away after a couple weeks Then these guys who think they had it in the bag start posting "guys I think I didn't text her enough blah blah" Now I'm not making fun of these dudes But the point is whether she is blowing you up or you text only to set up dates, a girl will still pull away for a few days periodically and it can have nothing to do with a guy "messing up" Now if they start thinking oh she must want me to t…
/r/seduction30/05/22 11:06 PM
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Well since you're already in it try to set up a date but if she gives you the run around don't simp and unfollow all her social
/r/seduction30/05/22 10:47 PM
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No Don't do anything like that. Maybe your friend had success because like another comment said she already wanted to kiss him and he made a little game. But it's playing with fire because ultimately this is a "bribe for sex" mentality And I promise there will be a time when you try to do something cocky like "do this and I'll kiss you" and she'll just ghost you after the date Just focus on getting girls wanting to kiss you without playful "challenges" like you said
/r/seduction30/05/22 10:44 PM
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These dudes are homos. If they can't deal with a chick who has had sex before then good luck. As long as you're clean and don't have a kid, all women have pasts
/r/seduction30/05/22 09:35 PM
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Divorced with kids. Hate to see it I know Entrepreneurs in Cars has some YouTube content on dating for single dads Other than that it's all the same man. Just approach women you find attractive.
/r/seduction29/05/22 06:00 PM
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That's not even validating. The premise is wrong That is acting like a woman. You may say "well I'd like it if a girl texted me that" Yeah, exactly. Because it's a feminine thing to do. Why are you checking in on strangers? If it's a first date you don't even know this girl. Is not the fact you agreed to a date and you're going to be there at a certain time enough? It's covert needy bullshit, you want her to reassure you everything's ok. Here's your binky, it'll be ok. Mama's here You think you'…
/r/seduction29/05/22 04:08 PM
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Probably because being sweet and vulnerable sounds like you're describing what you want in a woman. Dude you can be honest and open as a man but understand that women want to be with someone who's got it "figured out" or at least has the resources to do so. It's fine if you've gone through some shit but you need to demonstrate you conquer and thrive in adversity. At the very least, you can act with bravery in the face of uncertainty. If you want a woman to act like a surrogate mommy they will sm…
/r/seduction29/05/22 03:51 PM
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Ok I will validate you a little bit and say I understand to a degree Listen, I don't like scary movies. So I don't watch scary movies. This does not affect how I interact with women. Another thing, extroversion and introversion are theories. They are not replicable biological mechanisms. You can research this. So ditch and forget you ever heard of those words. I can't take more time to go over this stuff, I like helping people but you're painting yourself into a corner and saying "I can change t…
/r/seduction29/05/22 08:54 AM
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Dude it's impossible to tell what "could've" happened but just as a general concept: making statements is more attractive than asking questions. To take it further, I've heard it put "making statements gets you laid" So instead of "not much, you?" You could've said "taking you home tonight" or even anything like "meeting attractive women - but then you showed up" Throw in a tease Again, this may not have changed anything but keep in mind if you're ever on the spot like that, opt for a statement …
/r/seduction29/05/22 08:43 AM
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Ok bare with me There is no true natural self. Your true self is whoever you want to be. There's not a ghost of your past haunting you. When you meet someone new, they don't know shit about you so you get to be whoever you want. When you want to make a change that means acting different. Some people call it fake it till you make it. But if I'm learning a new skill like throwing a ball with my off hand for example, I'm not faking anything. It's just unnatural at first. I'm simply trying something…
/r/seduction29/05/22 08:28 AM
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I feel you Seems like you're experiencing what I recognized in myself and call covert neediness You're overlaying your whole persona with "game" to avoid rejection. It's like you got passed the beginner stage but you're still low key obsessed with validation and acceptance Really think about embodying the take it or leave it attitude. Like it has to be real. You need to be able to say anything and act truly without that deep thought of "will this make her like me?" I'm not saying that there isn'…
/r/seduction29/05/22 08:18 AM
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Bottom line is you never insult It's tempting to continue doing what worked once but if you start shooting from the hip you're going to miss your target Remember it's not about how well you execute your little tricks and schemes but how she feels when she's with you. You got to start somewhere but always remember how you positively stoke her feelings are more important than your wit in regards to her interest in you
/r/seduction29/05/22 06:40 AM
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I don't like kissing in cars so I'd go to a cool spot, say I want to show you something, get out of the car then grab her and kiss her when she's thinking "I wonder what he wants to show me?"
/r/seduction29/05/22 03:10 AM
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Not if the department of education dictates the curriculum. Kids would be even fucking gayer
/r/seduction29/05/22 03:06 AM
1

Yeah you start talking about her Maybe she's wearing vans sneakers. "Nice vans. I've noticed girls that wear vans are not too high maintenance" Now she's talking about herself to you Go from there
/r/seduction29/05/22 03:02 AM
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This group dynamic is weird, I'd recommend choosing which one you actually liked better and just asking her out for a solo date if you really want to see her. The best option if you want to remain in group chat is just an open invite to meet you guys out like you can just take it or leave it but you can't get upset if they flake especially since you're choosing a group text which is going to hinder intimacy. Like if they flake or don't respond, just delete the group chat. Also, hanging out with …
/r/seduction28/05/22 06:44 PM
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The question is why would you assume or need to check a person you allow in your life is going to flake or cancel. Not to be naive, it does happen but doing little things to check if a date is still on schedule is low quality expectation. These little things seem like smooth moves but it's intermediate level covert neediness.
/r/seduction28/05/22 05:48 PM
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You already told her to "hit you up" That means she will either hit you up or never contact you again. Anything more on your part is neuroticism so stop texting her. Not trying to be Mr negative here but it's pretty much over unless she hits you up in a week or two
/r/seduction27/05/22 10:39 PM
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I would've stopped talking after "yes it's fine" she can kick rocks if she's going to keep face palming and complaining. But also you seem to type more words than her so be mindful
/r/seduction27/05/22 09:57 PM
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Mid 30s and I typically date women in 20s
/r/seduction27/05/22 09:52 PM
1

If you know you can't see them for reasons you mentioned I'd only respond once a day as to not be rude, like maybe after the gym in the evening go through your notifications or a time that makes sense to you. Just bouncing ideas. Cheers
/r/seduction27/05/22 06:04 AM
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If a girl complains you left then on read that is good. Not because you're being a jerk, but they're obviously thinking about you. So I'd say if you're having this kind of success with women contacting you a lot, you need to practice actually setting dates to see them in person instead of having these pointless snap chat exchanges that lead to no where
/r/seduction27/05/22 05:53 AM
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It's ok, we all get burned before we learn. I know it's very tempting to want to talk to a girl showing high interest like that. Always stick to logistics with texting. I swear, it can be even ONE kinda needy text to blow the whole thing out of the water. Or one misinterpreted comment or joke which is why I recommend never to try to be funny over text. You might be good 99 out of 100 times but eventually you will say something stupid and then she has to cancel the date all of a sudden. The way t…
/r/seduction27/05/22 04:59 AM
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I recommend everyone to live close to or in down town for reasons stated and also logistics of having girls drive to your place then you can walk to the venue or bar and back to your place after since she's already parked there. It just works itself out Generally all of my dates start with "park at my place and we'll walk"
/r/seduction27/05/22 03:47 AM
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If you want to drink then drink but like someone else said it will not translate to a skill increase. You might get lucky sure but don't try to be scientific about consuming alcohol. Just focus on having a good time whatever you decide to do
/r/seduction27/05/22 03:27 AM
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I didn't read that whole thing but if she's cute enough to sleep with I would say yes especially if you're looking for practice/experience On the flip side I'd never suggest sleeping with someone you don't find at all attractive because it will be tedious and unpleasant
/r/seduction27/05/22 03:22 AM
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I'm not going to suggest a response but keep in mind you don't always have to be an entertainer with shit tests. If a girl is totally out of line with a comment you can just stare at her blankly like that was the stupidest thing you've ever heard especially if she's flirting with the line of disrespect In other words don't fall into the dancing monkey trap
/r/seduction27/05/22 03:19 AM
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No. Men and women are not friends. People on here who like to say otherwise are typically still in highschool or maybe college (young) and they confuse intermingling social groups of males and females as friends.
/r/seduction26/05/22 11:31 PM
3

Meet girls in person. Set dates on the spot or get her number as a last resort. No need for social
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:25 AM
1

I love this summary
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:21 AM
2

Honestly dude if you gave her your number and she didn't contact you I'd just leave it alone. I'm sure she knows how to use a phone and if she wanted to she would've texted you that same day After seeing her again, if she really liked you she probably would've texted something like "hey I saw you earlier" Girls will do that You can try asking her out but don't cross the barrier into stalker vibes at her work place. If it was me I'd just ignore her and stop going to the restaurant for a couple we…
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:15 AM
2

Sometimes if girls can't think of something to say to fill the gap they will sigh or make some other type of emotional noise to entice you to respond. It's subconscious they're not thinking like "I'm going to sigh right now"
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:59 AM
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Can I move in
/r/seduction26/05/22 12:00 AM
1

You're taking the steps to be better. Everyone wants to learn new skills but nobody wants to read a book Be mindful when you try to share your new perspective with people in your life they will not understand, or worse, they will try to drag you back down to their level. Be prepared to leave people behind as you pursue a new way to live life
/r/seduction25/05/22 10:47 PM
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Yes correct unless the girl was ready to leave with you and you both could've left but it didn't sound like you were there It didn't seem like you were trying to impress the girl. Honestly this guy crossed social boundaries with or without a woman there.
/r/seduction25/05/22 10:36 PM
1

You're a boy she's a girl
/r/seduction25/05/22 03:42 PM
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Get off that shit it's poison. Quacks will prescribe you pills without even prescribing an exercise routine, or checking your blood levels and addressing your diet. I'm not saying diet and exercise fix everything but your concerns about "being on them the rest of your life" are right and I promise unless you're trying to kill yourself or hallucinating you don't need pills. Calling a chemical an "anti depressant" is pure marketing, it doesn't actually address depression. It alters brain function …
/r/seduction25/05/22 06:29 AM
1

It's not fair to treat innocent women as your surrogate mommy You think your perspective is noble but unfortunately don't see how sick and twisted your paradigm is It's fine to want to love a woman but you want to smother one
/r/seduction25/05/22 06:14 AM
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When I said "what you want" I meant relationship talk. Don't start talking about anything that implies a relationship. Just focus on having fun with her and creating positive emotions. Also, yeah when I say tighten up I meant don't chase her. I think you realized you chased her a bit but it seemed to work out. Again you got away with it now but it might not happen again. So keep your texting short and sweet, give her that space and let her come to you when she's ready. After a 3rd date a girl wo…
/r/seduction25/05/22 05:55 AM
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Don't verbalize anything about "what you want" it'll just create bad habits. But it's good you're screening for things. If she tries to bring things up like that you just say "I like living in the moment and enjoying new experiences with interesting people. Especially if they're physically attractive" Something to always bring it back to the moment and away from the future talk. This allows you to be mysterious and charming without putting out relationship vibes. Now she's curious. Also, 3 dates…
/r/seduction25/05/22 05:29 AM
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Dude I get it. You got a bag full of tricks and it ain't working. Maybe it works a little like you said. There's at least some truth... Keep in mind, despite all the little tactics and advice, the most important thing is ALWAYS how a girl FEELS with you and about you. I've been there, trying to follow arbitrary rules and getting arbitrary results. Take what you've learned but focus on the bigger picture of catering to her positive feelings and emotions which relate to you. You may feel you're "b…
/r/seduction25/05/22 05:13 AM
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Stop contacting her. Go silent till you hear from her. You'll know if she's really interested or not. If she's a challenging girl it might take around a week to hear from her. If you don't hear from her you'll get your answer Also why are you talking about what you want your "future gf" to be like. You should not be talking about the future in any way within 3 dates, maybe if you're joking like "I could see you in a bikini on the beach this summer" but even then it's thin ice. I just reread your…
/r/seduction25/05/22 04:56 AM
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If a chick isn't the one opening you, it's really a low probability play so just go with "hey when are you free?" Any attempt to be "cute, corny, witty, clever" is covert needy and you'll be wishing you were direct and straight forward when she ghosts your stand up comedy routine I'm assuming this is a number you got in person ...
/r/seduction24/05/22 11:56 PM
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Waste another 10 years not getting the results you want then maybe you'll decide it's really time to make a change instead of worrying about being judged. Even if it's you judging yourself, that's even better cause you can just look in the mirror and tell yourself to get off your retarded high horse. Your best thinking got you to where you are and obviously it's not working out
/r/seduction24/05/22 11:50 PM
1

Sounds like you mean you get tested and fail
/r/seduction24/05/22 11:47 PM
1

Recognizing that speaking fast and high pitched are feminine qualities and I simply did not want that to be a part of my life any more But it is true about inflection at the end of questions is typically a sign of insecurity, so I think maybe as you practice your overall tone will change
/r/seduction20/05/22 02:06 PM
1

You kids stop playing on my lawn
/r/seduction20/05/22 02:00 PM
1

She's a girl
/r/seduction20/05/22 01:57 PM
1

Depends, if she has double texted you in the past or she texts you frequently, I would leave that on read and she will prob follow up either on Friday or she'll just hit you up when she's free next This is def not "take away" territory Bro just keep in mind a girl will be hot sometimes and cold the others so if she doesn't meet up this week just leave her on read and let her come around
/r/seduction20/05/22 05:51 AM
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Keep applying what works and remove what doesn't And it's not faking if you're trying to make a change. All change feels fake at first Also, it's good if people respect you but you must also respect yourself. It's interesting because typically people do not respect you UNTIL you can respect yourself, so a question: do you respect yourself?
/r/seduction20/05/22 05:37 AM
1

"you were a tomboy growing up, huh?" "Let me guess, you're a librarian" Or you can use the term "dog mom" some way if she's walking her dog If she's reading a book "which Harry Potter book are you reading" Use this as a tease "would you describe yourself as high maintenance?" You got to get that in right as a joke but they'll usually start explaining why they're not high maintenance If she's wearing hoop earrings "ohh hoop earrings, I should be careful around you"
/r/seduction19/05/22 02:15 PM
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Don't set or suggest future dates on the current date, just enjoy each date like it's the last time you'll see each other and let her contact you in the future and that's when you set the next date, when she reaches out Don't text her after dates or anything like that until you hear from her
/r/seduction19/05/22 02:03 PM
2

You don't seem like a needy guy so it's prob fine if you're giving from your abundance
/r/seduction18/05/22 11:11 PM
0

Make sure you're not a stalker
/r/seduction18/05/22 05:14 PM
1

Yes since she texted you first it would be appropriate to set a second date. Tell her you'd like to check it that building you missed and set a time and a date to do it. Maybe plan to get dinner or drinks closer by your place afterward so you can potentially end up more intimate
/r/seduction18/05/22 04:29 PM
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Yeah you can ask them a question and turn it around "Yes I'm doing this. What is it you're thinking?" So then they are explaining themselves a little bit I think it's important for guys learning this to simply take action right or wrong because at least taking action is better than waiting around for other people to get things started So don't beat your self up over every "micro" incident as long as overall, you're establishing your frame and acting proactively And also think of frame as who you…
/r/seduction18/05/22 01:51 PM
19

"For those that don't know me" Are there people that do know you?
/r/seduction18/05/22 01:45 PM
1

Well a woman should be doing about 80%-90% of the initiating so you're prob smothering her. If you're not hearing from her stop contact until you do Does she know she's your "girl friend"? Is she the one that brought up wanting to be exclusive with you?
/r/seduction17/05/22 03:40 PM
1

Hey dude, my schedule is exactly like yours. I can only fit in dates on the weekends or on a rest day from the gym I've had to flip the script and understand that I'm a busy and productive person and the time I choose to spend with a woman (or friends) is a gift to them "The most value gift you can give is the gift of your time" I'll admit I spend a lot of my free time out with my dog, so I typically date girls I meet with dogs so I can fit in a date by inviting them to take our dogs out at leas…
/r/seduction17/05/22 02:49 PM
1

You're just not unhappy enough with your life yet
/r/seduction17/05/22 02:02 PM
2

You may be able to swing this one around just keep it on the back burner
/r/seduction16/05/22 10:47 PM
5

Focus on your mission but there's no harm in talking to women if you're a little broke and they're showing interest. You'll just see you won't be able to really afford dinner dates or buying drinks after a couple weeks They body thing you just have to get started on today. That is the easiest to improve
/r/seduction16/05/22 10:46 PM
5

Long, invested conversations during initial contact do not prevent flaking
/r/seduction16/05/22 10:22 PM
4

Try again in a few weeks, let these current emotions fade out let her go on her business trip
/r/seduction16/05/22 10:19 PM
3

Incel
/r/seduction16/05/22 12:50 PM
2

bj
/r/seduction14/05/22 02:49 PM
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Dude it's done there's no playing it. The game is over, the stadium empty and the lights off You missed some subtleties, she declined your first Saturday offer and said she will text you then you immediately tried to set another date the next Saturday She said she would text you. And you smothered her. Then double texted begging to not be left hanging If a girl says she will text you (whether she will or not) you take it at face value and move on because you're busy. Take it or leave it attitude…
/r/seduction13/05/22 09:32 PM
0

Less competition for me, nice
/r/seduction13/05/22 09:26 PM
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Does "made sure she got back alright" translate into sent her a text after the date? That's part of the reason Also, so you were making out, did you escalate to more?
/r/seduction13/05/22 09:15 PM
2

Water, low calorie body armor, white claws YouTube "keeping your refrigerator stocked will get you many women"
/r/seduction13/05/22 09:12 PM
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How many of these attractive women have you asked out? It's kind of like seeing a professional athlete in his prime and thinking "he didn't need to do this stuff" when you were not there to see the years of practice, and hundreds of mistakes he made to get there Now I'm not saying these dudes are all seduction experts but what is the difference between a guy successful with women and someone writing this post on Reddit? The successful guy has been REJECTED dozens if not hundreds of times to get …
/r/seduction13/05/22 07:43 PM
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Whenever there is an essay of a post asking "what am I doing wrong" I don't even have to read it to know
/r/seduction13/05/22 07:32 PM
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Dude a date is light and playful 45 min to an hour screening which can potentially end in sex You can be a deep guy but that is a part of you you slowly reveal to a woman No man should be dumping their problems onto a woman. This is not to say guys don't have struggles but if you don't have that in check what are you doing on a date Bottom line, light and playful with a bit of sexuality You treated her like a therapist and she treated you like a client Read No More Mr Nice Guy and Way of the Sup…
/r/seduction13/05/22 07:13 PM
2

You're right dude maybe by your logic they should just lay in a ditch and die
/r/seduction13/05/22 07:08 PM
1

What the fuck am I reading
/r/seduction13/05/22 05:04 PM
1

Stop talking to everyone involved in this story. Cut all ties and give no explanation No one will ever say or do anything to you that you don't invite them to do
/r/seduction13/05/22 04:33 PM
1

You did not pick up a girl. You got a phone number. Let us know when you get her on a date...
/r/seduction13/05/22 04:28 PM
1

You could just straight ask him out. Don't take this wrong, but as a woman no one is going to be offended if you're a little forward. It's def a kind of unique situation but the fundamentals are the same. We only live once
/r/seduction13/05/22 02:52 PM
1

That's good You got to take that risk. Keep in mind women are extremely sexual and just as horny as men So if she's like "hey how's work" You can just reply like "just thinking about what I'm going to do to you later" and totally reframe the vibe The thing is you can't do that every text but if you keep a general baseline of sexuality in your texts she'll prob even get horny just clicking your name on her phone and vice versa She may test you the first time you do this like "you're cocky huh" or…
/r/seduction13/05/22 02:44 PM
2

Dude you either hang out and have fun or don't hang out You don't have to say things like "this is not more than a hook up" because no matter what you say she is going to feel how she feels. Don't say anything like that and enjoy the moment But if it's not fun for you then stop hanging out Most guys on here prob wish they got that much action you did
/r/seduction13/05/22 02:28 PM
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You're mind is on the right track It's called a "take away" You're taking away your offer. But yours is a little too butthurt sounding. She'll be repulsed and glad she flaked Just say "Well I'd love to see you but how about you contact me when you're more sure of your schedule" "Np id love to see you but maybe when you're not so busy" You can be shorter: "ok np some other time" But keep it to one line and don't imply any type of negative emotion And you never hit her up again. You'll either hear…
/r/seduction13/05/22 02:17 PM
4

Dress better, get to 15% body fat. Maybe you already do these things Also, if you think you don't have the most attractive face then meeting women in person will be your best bet because you have more to work with
/r/seduction13/05/22 02:09 PM
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That's fine you're allowed to get bored But what you can do is next time use your verbal game again to gently probe her concerns One time I was walking home with a girl and she stopped by her car outside my place and said something about she likes to wait to have sex and I just kinda led her to my door and said "come on I want to hear all about it" and I knew it was time to build comfort with my words. She came inside we talked and fooled around and escalated from there If you're willing to inve…
/r/seduction13/05/22 02:04 PM
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It's rescinding your offer (your time and attention) In this case she wanted to be friends and he said "I like you but I'm not interested in just friends" or whatever Or if a girl is being flaky for scheduling a date you say "I'd like to see you but how about you contact me when you're more sure of your schedule" You're essentially saying well my offer is on the table and I'm walking away now so you can let me know
/r/seduction13/05/22 01:31 AM
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No you cannot change anyone's mind you're just displaying value by making statements and not asking for validation in the form of questions Responding to a statement takes more investment than just answering a question To take it further, I generally leave question marks out of my texts so like When are you free Instead of When are you free? These are general concepts maybe I didn't properly answer your question
/r/seduction13/05/22 01:05 AM
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Getting a number is a last resort. It just adds unnecessary steps if you have the option to ask her in person Just say hi and be like "hey so what's your schedule like coming up?" She'll get the idea you're going to set up a date then see what works and you can get her number at you do this
/r/seduction13/05/22 01:02 AM
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Damn well the only way to find it is to ask her out the next time you see her. If you wait any longer it'll be incongruent Just be direct don't try to tiptoe, you already had a friendly convo, she knows you exist so you just make your move
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:48 PM
1

Just leave it because you already presented your offer: "get back to me" so you cannot go back on your word, she'll know you're full of shit Give it a couple weeks and see if she hits you up with a scheduling idea I know it's tempting, but you got to be able to walk away from the negotiating table. You're now walking away. She has your contact information. Let it be This is good experience in self control. You need to go through situations like this to see that a girl will contact you out the bl…
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:33 PM
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Leave her alone dude she's obviously not interested and you have a lot of work to do The last thing a girl wants is a guy confronting her why she's avoiding his texts. That is stalker behavior
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:26 PM
1

No you're not a crazy outlier Like the other comment said, who knows about the other guy. Maybe he's an orbiter type of guy and is always trying to please her and is always buzzing around. Anyway just do you and find a girl you like to spend time with. I only have a couple hours a week to date so I'm the same way. I like my down time, sometimes even getting ready for a date seems like work so that makes me appreciate an easy going woman even more
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:24 PM
1

Being bold is good But that language is smothering. A girl wants to have fun and it's your job to provide a light and playful experience for her Just ask her to hang out and have a good time. Be fun and flirty with her. That's it
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:21 PM
1

Good question but it always boggles my fucking mind why guys think they have to specify a date or not. You have a penis, she has a vagina. It's a date. She knows it's a date. The other people at the bar know it's a date. Everyone knows it's a date The second option you think is non needy is actually covert needy because you're still trying to skirt rejection. Trust me dude, I've been there. You're a little needy inside still and it's showing in your post. But that's ok, good for you for noticing…
/r/seduction12/05/22 09:41 PM
1

Honestly those dudes probably are low value human beings and hate their wage job which is why they seem sour all the time Just briefly ask the girl out hopefully when it is slow in the cafe so she's not distracted
/r/seduction12/05/22 09:33 PM
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No don't message. Consider it over with and move on. But what you can do is in 3-4, or even 6-8 months you can try to reengage. "Kinda random, how'd you like to catch up over dinner/drinks?" That is a hail mary play but the thing is she doesn't "hate you" she just thinks you're too nice probably. So in a few months these current emotions will fade away and you can try again but don't expect much. Low probability The point is the next few months will give you time to get clarity, meet new women a…
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:26 PM
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I've been seeing your posts and honestly you did pretty well for how you're learning She said friends and you said no I'd just work on more nuances in your texting. Less words, less punctuation But most importantly you're catering too much to her feelings "Understandable" "no hard feelings" You don't need to wrap things up in a nice guy package "Ok I'd love to see you again but I'm not interested in just being friends" Don't be afraid to put a little pressure on her. Make statements and avoid as…
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:05 PM
3

Women make rules for betas and break them for alphas If you're acting more reserved so will she If you're like highly sexual with her, she'll act the same It's all the conditions you create for her to "let go" and feel comfortable
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:52 PM
3

Dude even if it's not your style to try to fuck on the first date, every date with every girl should have the potential to end in the bedroom. Again, maybe she just wants to cuddle and kiss the first night but you're in your bed. Then next time it will go further. She'll be enticed until she is ready to have sex Even that last date, movie and then dinner. You could've just had her at your place and watched a movie and ordered dinner. Save a few bucks even So you did good by getting 5 dates with …
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:49 PM
1

That is great you're reading that book. Also check out Way of the Superior Man Anyway, she's jerking you around a bit. Maybe she's not even doing it on purpose. But you just take a step back and let her know "hey I'd really like to see you but let's try this another time when you're more sure of your schedule" and just walk away Long distance is almost never worth either persons time. Maybe if it's temporary If she really likes you she will find that time but also if you think you like her then …
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:41 PM
2

Why no sex 99% of the time girls are more horny than guys She's off to find intimacy elsewhere
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:34 PM
1

She likes you. Kiss her next time
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:29 PM
2

You're only in the friend zone if you're friends with women
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:21 PM
1

Don't respond to her "hi" until you're ready to ask her on a date Whenever you text her next it should be to set up logistics "when are you free this week" Maybe you can say something before asking her schedule like "you seem like a cool person" and then ask her schedule when she responds Since this chick is a co worker you don't want to bombard her with shit She's either going to be down or not for a date
/r/seduction12/05/22 01:54 PM
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Listen to comedy you like as you're getting ready. Get yourself laughing before you head out Just remember "light and playful" is the mood you want She's just looking for a good time with a fun guy And don't text her after the date
/r/seduction12/05/22 01:37 PM
1

So you're pregnant before marriage I'm sure guys are falling at your feet... Come back when you're divorced in 12 years looking for a date as a single mom
/r/seduction12/05/22 01:01 PM
2

That's what a girl would say who no one would do that to
/r/seduction12/05/22 12:54 PM
2

It's a numbers game just like taking to women. You spark conversations with everyone and see what sticks. Sometimes you meet some cool people right away, other times not so much Also, it's not weird to go out alone. But I will say from experience I enjoyed going out later in the night when everyone was a bit more buzzed and already vibing so I could just walk right into the action instead of going too early and getting psyched out if things were slow
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:27 AM
1

This is when you "take away" "Well I'd love to see you but why don't you contact me when you're more sure of your schedule" and you walk away and never look back Or you can leave it more open ended "I'd love to see you but maybe another time when you're more sure of your schedule" so you can leave the door open to contact her instead of telling her to contact you There is no guarantee you'll hear from her but she will either 1. Give you a definite time to meet up 2. Contact you maybe in a week o…
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:15 AM
3

Damn bro that's when you pull her in and start whispering in her ear and working your hands up and down her body. Grab her hair and ass at the same time and start making out with her. Then say you got to go, walk away and don't look back
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:09 AM
4

Guys don't bring up relationship talk. You scared her away
/r/seduction11/05/22 10:29 PM
1

Well yeah if you're not making a move then she's going to be daydreaming about the dudes at work
/r/seduction11/05/22 10:27 PM
2

Stop bringing up that kind of heavy talk and just have a good time That language is smothering. Leave it to the woman to bring up exclusivity and you just focus on driving the fun bus
/r/seduction11/05/22 10:22 PM
0

This is not how you set a date
/r/seduction11/05/22 10:20 PM
9

A girl gives you shit to see if you're a bitch or not The more experience you get, you take it as a compliment to a certain degree. Most guys will crumble and start apologizing and explaining when a girl gives them shit then comes on here to ask why she ghosted
/r/seduction11/05/22 08:25 PM
2

No Dude why would you try to keep a text convo going Only contact her if you're actually going to set a date that's probably why "the convo was dying" You were talking her on a ride that leads to no where Think of a place you'd like to invite her to and ask her when she is free to get together
/r/seduction11/05/22 08:06 PM
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Keep in mind also it could be a character defect like projection and black and white thinking. Before I really got into dating I'd nitpick and criticize every girl once they did something I saw as unattractive I had to see that it was me who had unrealistic expectations Also the more I learned about female nature the more I see the things they do as natural Read or listen to "Way of the Superior Man" and it covers how a man should interpret and process female energy like testing, and acting in c…
/r/seduction11/05/22 08:03 PM
1

That's fine, become the leader of that interaction with the other guy. I can't think of another way to describe it but "out-alpha" him, keep control of the conversation. Honestly it's good, you can take a little attention away from the girl to build some tension
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:45 PM
2

Jesus fucking Christ Don't text her anything let her reach out If you don't hear from her ask her out in a week
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:43 PM
1

That would be sweet but she lives in another state. She invited me to a concert (she'll be at with friends) in yet another state this summer. It's like yeah right. I can see another guy flying 1000s of miles to get like a side hug from this chick. She's def hot. Nah we met in a zoom meeting and now we just talk about once a month. I used to try to schedule calls with her till I realized she's a certified professional flake. So ignoring her had certainly got her reaching out to me more. What's fu…
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:48 PM
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Yeah bro, is not COVID, it's you. You're looking for justification of why a girl dumped you after 2 months... Probably because they realize you blame the world for your problems and you don't have anything to offer. 2 months is right around when a girl will decide to be exclusive and when you're getting to that point they realize they're better off single than with you The more you think "dating is bad right now" the longer you'll take to make a change. Absolute loser mentality.
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:35 PM
1

Go alone and make friends. Keep in mind most people you meet will prob only be friends for the night but who knows you might meet some people that you see more than once
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:05 PM
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They'll be harder to "pull into your frame". I literally just responded to another post about this. A guy asked out a chick and she said "I'll bring my friends and you bring yours". Boom, she will not easily agree to intimate encounters or play right into your frame. So, you will need to hold fast and probably use a "take away" offer but honestly she might just walk away too unless she's very high interest in you. These girls have a lot to occupy their time with so, again, unless she finds you v…
/r/seduction11/05/22 02:52 PM
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Nah op you're right. While it could be fine it is absolutely less optimal than getting her out one on one. If she is a girl that has a lot of guy friends, she's prob used to being around groups, being flaky, and teasing guys.
/r/seduction11/05/22 02:36 PM
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Because many guys are clingy and act like women. Don't take this personally just hear it out. If you were to say to yourself "well I'd like it if she texted me after the date" yes because it is a feminine thing to do. Think of a movie where a girl is daydreaming about her crush, writing in her diary, picking petals off a flower. That's fine for a woman to do. But now imagine a man doing that. It's anti magnetic. It's repulsive behavior. That is what texting sweet nothings or pleasantries is for …
/r/seduction11/05/22 02:49 AM
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You say "listen, I don't mind joking with you but I told you that story to share a part of my life with you. You can share anything with me and I will not judge you so I expect the same." If she obliges then good, drop it and then make her smile (aka don't hold a grudge) If she still gives you shit then "soft next" her. Break contact for a couple days till she comes around with a different attitude Always be ok with walking away from the relationship when it comes to setting healthy and appropri…
/r/seduction10/05/22 10:54 PM
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What the other guy said. Just like when you started at the gym you probably made a lot of mistakes. You have to go out and do the same with women. Start asking girls out on dates. Dating takes practice for most people If you'd like reading material to get a foundation of male female dynamic I'd suggest reading the rationale male, no more Mr nice guy and way of the superior man
/r/seduction10/05/22 10:45 PM
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It's impossible to say without knowing more but "I texted that evening" could be an indicator Don't text girls after the first date and if you guys actually had a good time she'll prob text you in 2-3 days when she doesn't hear from you Also some things to remember, don't bring up relationship talk, don't talk about your guys' potential future, don't try to set a second date on the first date. I'm not saying you're doing that but if you are then they are things to consider
/r/seduction10/05/22 10:37 PM
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I just made something up to get a point across but to address your concern I don't think anyone would actually take something so literally as if I'm talking about her ex but then again op thought it was a neg so who knows what people are thinking Being indirect is risky because you'll probably say something stupid sooner than later like "you have dramatic poses" do I was providing an example that would romantically escalate the conversation.
/r/seduction10/05/22 09:33 PM
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Idk in what soft ass world that is a neg but best of luck dude hope you get it done...
/r/seduction10/05/22 08:17 PM
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Ok bro don't get your hopes up. She's already softly declined your first offer and said she's busy both are gentle let downs. then she gave you her number which you will learn as you get more experience is basically nothing. So you've been rejected twice now. The only thing you can do is be as direct as possible and go to set up a date with this girl. If you try to be witty, funny or cute or whatever other needy behavior she'll just blow you off completely. Honestly I'd prob ask her out again in…
/r/seduction10/05/22 07:03 PM
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Bro just make a statement. You already said dramatic poses, she asked how so and so "talk about her": Well it just looks like you're deep in thought about the last guys heart you broke
/r/seduction10/05/22 05:41 PM
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Rejection breeds obsession Could just be your ego hurting
/r/seduction10/05/22 05:34 PM
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It doesn't matter. I got numbers I never even texted. Bottom line is a girl will or will not respond back 100% dependant on her "state". Maybe this week she's too busy and occupied, but in a month she is bored and open. You'll never know and I think having the mindset of "she'll forget you" is completely arbitrary if not toxic for the male. A way to resolve this is to ask her schedule in person. You will know by how she responds if she is actually open to a date or is going to potentially flake.…
/r/seduction10/05/22 05:19 PM
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Talk to her no longer than 10-15 min, focus on being fun... Get her laughing, ask her out on a date when the emotions are high then end the call after that because you're busy So don't worry about what you're going to talk about, it can just be anything because if you're good you can pivot the convo at any moment. I always ask girls about their day at work because they love to gossip and that gets then talking then when there's a good opening I pivot the conversion to something more "about them"…
/r/seduction10/05/22 02:31 PM
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Honestly I'd just keep her as a fwb and never take her out on a date or spend money on a chick that says things like that. It's one thing to see other guys while dating but it's a major red flag to have to talk about it. Keep her at arms length and let her hit you up when she misses you If you want to pursue it further you'll have to set this boundary whenever she brings up being exclusive with you if that's what you want. Other than that just keep rotating her
/r/seduction10/05/22 02:08 PM
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Text anywhere between 4 days and 2 weeks I've been there and there is no use trying to estimate the best time to text a girl. It's literally insane But I'll say this, my preferred time is late Sunday afternoon because most people are home and on the come down from the weekend Take this experience as a lesson to set dates in person or at the very least ask her what her schedule is as you get her number so you know roughly when to contact her
/r/seduction10/05/22 02:04 AM
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This is all so indirect that your only option is to be direct. Ask her out on a date. I'm not trying to be mean but getting friends to messages chicks for you or whatever is what girls do. Bro ask her out and skip all this other nonsense it's gay as hell
/r/seduction09/05/22 10:55 PM
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I'd literally ignore it and move on with the conversation
/r/seduction09/05/22 10:51 PM
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You got burned. That's how many guys get into self development And even better, cause you realize at least in some fashion that the way you've been approaching things is less than optimal You're going to be miserable until you're not. So choose how long that will be Two books you can read are No More Mr. Nice Guy, and way of the superior man. There are others but those two helped me get some perspective till I could dive into others
/r/seduction09/05/22 10:43 PM
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Bottom line if you want to get married and he doesn't, just walk away. Sex isn't everything but it's surprising you two have been together this long without it. Makes me wonder what his intentions are And please take no offense but the fact that you want to get married to ease abandonment issues is a huge red flag and I hope you find a way to work on yourself that doesn't require a relationship to fill the void because you sound like a ticking time bomb
/r/seduction09/05/22 10:01 PM
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Why do you not have her phone # if you've gone out
/r/seduction09/05/22 09:57 PM
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To further your concepts, she's not "fitting your mold" per se but actively choosing you. If you create the circumstances in which she is actively choosing you, she will do things that can be described as fitting your mold So your statement of "you must make her" is an incorrect perspective although you're heading in the right direction. You don't make her do anything. She chooses everything. This is what happens when you do things correctly in a male to female dynamic. She will choose to fit yo…
/r/seduction09/05/22 09:51 PM
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No
/r/seduction09/05/22 09:46 PM
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Dude, after the first date always wait for them to text you first. You can hit them up in a week but if you hadn't heard from them in that time it's prob over with It could be bad sex but I've had girls stick around after not so stellar performances so it could be something else, again, you texting too much maybe
/r/seduction09/05/22 09:00 PM
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Since you're posting on Reddit about it you prob are doing things to come off needy and she's just simply pulling back/going cold Ignore her, let her hit you up first
/r/seduction09/05/22 08:55 PM
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No dude ASKING for the kiss put her off. You didn't even "go for" a kiss so I can see that concept is twisted in your mind. That told her everything she needed to know plus maybe other vibes you may have gave off
/r/seduction09/05/22 06:10 PM
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Uh... How about would she agree to a date in real life? That will prob let you know if she's interested
/r/seduction09/05/22 06:07 PM
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Maybe for sports your prime years are 20s, but as a man they'll be your 30s. So spend this time now laying the foundation for your adult life, start building money, and I'd recommend to not get into a long term exclusive relationship but that doesn't mean you can't date women for long periods of time. Pick up is one thing but you'll want to be practicing keeping girls you like around. The more you interact with women, the more you'll see areas of your life you'd like to improve.
/r/seduction09/05/22 06:04 PM
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You prob don't have a group of men, or at least one male friend with whom you can talk about your problems. Everyone has obstacles, but as a man you want to discuss these things with other men and not be dumping things onto women.
/r/seduction09/05/22 05:59 PM
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Sex is overrated although important
/r/seduction07/05/22 10:49 PM
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Well here are two glaring problems "3 hour back and forth" "I initiated again" If you're not planning a date then stop talking to her. Cause if you want to be her texting buddy then she's going to treat you like second rate entertainment whenever she's got nothing else going on that moment
/r/seduction07/05/22 08:56 PM
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Be in the moment, no one is going to remember that you were even there when tomorrow comes so either enjoy yourself or leave
/r/seduction07/05/22 08:53 PM
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You want to think of your conversations as having an end point of meeting up. If you're just chatting aimlessly yes the woman will get bored whether it's and app or a girl you're seeing The point of electronic communication is for logistics. Maybe with online dating you have to sexually banter a bit but aside from that you're either making plans to meet up or not messaging at all
/r/seduction07/05/22 08:51 PM
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I get you. You can't let what others think dictate even one iota of your life. Maybe that is not exactly what you meant but translate it to fit better. I remember after highschool I had a group of friends I thought I'd hang with forever. We had a couple great summers. I don't speak with any of them 10 years later. In fact, I was in contact with one buddy from that time till last year. I moved away, started to get into things like dating and whatever else and any time I spent talking with him fel…
/r/seduction07/05/22 05:25 AM
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Making guy friends is very similar to meeting women. You'll talk, you relate but there's flakiness, ghosting and schedule conflicts just like anything else. You just got to go out and be social with everyone when you're at the bar or whatever else. I know you're maybe just looking for "wings" but a good friend doesn't come around often. And also, take this experience with your friends to know you will be "alone" a majority of your life. You will have goals and pursuits that the people around you…
/r/seduction07/05/22 05:15 AM
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Rejection is directly correlated with confidence. It might suck now but after you get shot down 20x you'll either quit or say fuck it and start to really make progress
/r/seduction07/05/22 04:52 AM
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Stop blowing up her phone, let her come to you If she doesn't hit you up in a couple weeks it's prob over if there was anything there to begin with
/r/seduction06/05/22 08:50 PM
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It's not the money it's who you become dude but keep settling in life if that's what you want. I spent many years doing that so no judgment. It took me a long time to understand you only live once. Best regards maybe there's some other threads that interest you
/r/seduction06/05/22 04:55 PM
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Not sure what you mean but I am on the course to be "super rich" through my endeavors so thank you for your support
/r/seduction06/05/22 04:41 PM
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Appreciate it. This fell into my lap so I'm just playing it out no strings attached but I would not tolerate the behavior you mentioned Thanks for looking out
/r/seduction06/05/22 04:39 PM
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Oh I see what you're getting at I have plenty of dating experience and wish to expand my skill set through various experiences with women I appreciate your concern
/r/seduction06/05/22 02:38 PM
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Mike Mehlman is my shit. He helped me a lot wish he still made pick up content I always hated the high energy people pleasing style of pick up. I refuse to be a dancing monkey to get a girl And honestly Mike Mehlman gave me the courage to tell girls "yeah I'm boring" cause he says that exact thing in one of his videos
/r/seduction06/05/22 02:20 PM
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I gave a very evasive answer She was like I don't like to share guys I have sex with So I said "what, you're not into threesomes?" Kinda just played a little hard to get and made her explain herself Eventually said as long as we're sleeping together it's not something you have to worry about to comfort her
/r/seduction06/05/22 02:07 PM
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Awesome dude. Sometimes it sucks in the moment but overall the experiences can't be replicated
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:56 PM
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Ask her to meet up and if she flakes you know she's a time-waster
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:55 PM
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Maybe this is relevant, one of my go-tos in gauging interest is by pausing and seeing if the woman fills in the conversion gap. I use this when I meet women, and on dates. Pause, look away and then live in the silent tension. "He who speaks first loses. Many times if the vibe is going well I'll do something like walk into a building first and very quickly slide into the door so it kinda closes on them behind me. Idk they always seem to laugh at that
/r/seduction05/05/22 06:48 PM
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A man can take or leave sex because he knows he can get it. You can take one guy, drop him in any city, and he'll be able to go out meet girls and probably be getting laid by the end of the week. Other guys are at a point they don't even know what it's like to have a female attracted to them. In this circle, you have to understand a lot of the advice is catered to completely inexperienced young guys who are just starting to get into dating. And again, with working out, some guys need to go and w…
/r/seduction05/05/22 06:21 PM
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PUA YouTube creates a false reality. They only post their successful interactions, they have the time to have way more interactions than most people since they are content creators (no 9-5 job), and also the new thing is to have an obvious camera man which they use to get girls excited to be in front of the camera. Also, many times they just get a number after they do a whole song and dance for footage but after you get a few #s you'll realize a number close is extremely flakey and pretty easy t…
/r/seduction04/05/22 11:00 PM
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Take the experience and learn this is why to not invest in a big eventful date off tinder Really, I'd recommend you focus on getting sexual over text for OLD and invite them to your place Worst case, you go to a cafe close to your place so the logistics for sex are still there Drinks and mini golf may sound good on paper I guess but ask yourself was there the potential to end the date with sex?
/r/seduction04/05/22 10:52 PM
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Kinda, had a chick tell me she won't have sex without a condom but... It happened after dinner. And every time we hung out after that
/r/seduction04/05/22 10:48 PM
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Dude that guy wishes he could approach women That's when you explain you enjoy supporting local business by frequenting the farmers market and yes there seems to be many beautiful women here. It's one of my favorite places to come. Which venue is yours, what kind of product do you sell? You make him your friend so he has to decide if he's going to keep acting like a fool in public Don't let losers try to drag you down into their pathetic world view
/r/seduction04/05/22 10:40 PM
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Well ok I guess it's good you're learning some terms like shit test But a woman is designed to test men she's interested in because she needs to screen out weak fucks But a couple don't even sounds like tests. You're just getting caught off guard like you said She says you want to feel my abs? So you can pounce and say "you'd like my hands on your body, huh?" Or "let's save this for the bedroom later" Escalate. Or she asks to have lunch, you can do that and kiss her after like a little date. It …
/r/seduction04/05/22 03:03 PM
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It's fine if you laughed it off The "deeper" side of a male should be kept beneath your masculine layer, and your fun layer. Honestly as long as you're not saying or doing things to turn her off she will be intrigued by this. And as long as you don't apologize for it. Keep in mind, everything is a test especially at first. She says you have your armor on, she's literally looking for a weakness to poke it ... But here's the thing you do not get caught up in being Mr Batman/terminator silent brood…
/r/seduction04/05/22 02:50 PM
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No, lipstick tastes horrible. It's like kissing a wax doll. Maybe some lip gloss or something like that to soften and moisturize
/r/seduction04/05/22 02:30 PM
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No make up I don't mess with chicks with fake lashes, filled in eye brows, eye shadow, fake nails and the contour/highlight overload. Maybe some mascara and foundation I guess but that's about it
/r/seduction04/05/22 01:59 PM
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Replace the words killer instinct with seduction. You cannot seduce a woman without seducing her Also, within your post, you cannot build rapport over text. I'm not saying you can't try to do it. But that it cannot be done. Everything is done in person and phones are for setting dates. So if you want to pull these girls, I'd practice with that. Ok so you don't want to have sex with them but you go through the motions as if you do. Maybe they'll be disappointed but like you said it's for you, not…
/r/seduction03/05/22 07:37 PM
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2 & 3 from your list Girls are out at night to have fun and possibly have sex. You stated that's not your intention so you are not that guy. Sounds like you should be meeting girls during the day for what you want but the thing is if you're trying to be their friend first, instead of a potential sexual partner then... Idk you could be doing the same with dudes Even if you want to "establish trust" first, you still approach with that killer sexual instinct.
/r/seduction03/05/22 07:03 PM
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Honestly just sounds like you're meeting flaky girls in the party scene. If you're out in venues or clubs I'd focus on getting those girls home with you that same night. Getting a # at a nightclub is like... I don't even know. A step above pointless. Extremely high flake rate as you've seen
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:49 PM
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There's no magic, you take in less calories. You'll be a little hungry some times. Anything else is looking for a short cut
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:07 PM
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Ok so keep in mind this chick has no more potential then a fwb even if she wasn't leaving the country. So cut and burn any type of emotional investment you may have. But of course, we still appreciate beautiful women and I assume she is such. So invite her to either your place, or a place closer enough you can walk to your place for sex after the date. You're not trying to romance this woman, aside from being a fun guy and potentially good sex partner. So unless the date you set can end in sex d…
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:02 PM
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Through your behavior you create the circumstance in which she is pursuing you Obviously she needs to have a certain level of interest in you. You cannot convert a woman with 0% attraction. Which is where "numbers game" comes in. You don't choose who is attracted to you but you can make the most opportunities to meet them
/r/seduction03/05/22 05:57 PM
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Needy needy needy I fear rejection needy needy
/r/seduction03/05/22 05:53 PM
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When a girl tells you she "isn't ready" that's the same as "it's not you it's me" You did things to turn her off, prob acted like a nice guy little brother with no penis, then she let you down softly and you said well we can be friends. I'll still hold your purse for you Dude even if she did give you another chance unless you take some drastic steps the same thing will happen again Stop talking to her completely, honestly that will get her attention the most if there is even an inkling of attrac…
/r/seduction03/05/22 05:46 PM
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Ok just remember this "a date is a romantic opportunity for sex to happen" All you have to do is be fun, and allow her to be comfortable with you and lead her to your place for sex or as far as she is willing to go. You already know her so don't fall into the trap thinking that you have to amaze her with your intellect or deep thoughts. You be fun, AND sexual. Get some ice cream and just say "too bad I can't eat this off your body right now" get that mood going and walk her back once you notice …
/r/seduction03/05/22 05:37 PM
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I wouldn't even platonic chat with her. Since you've already bumped into her or whatever just say "hey let's go out" and catch her off guard If she's like "huh, what?" Just say I thought you were cute we should go out this week The reason for this is your already crushing hard for some rando chick so the longer you try to play Mr smooth you're probably going to fuck up
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:00 PM
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I carry a football with me and just throw it at the girl and say "I thought you were open"
/r/seduction03/05/22 07:40 AM
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You have to understand it is a woman's nature to avoid conflict and you'll never get a straight answer. It's like getting upset that grey skies produce rain. It just is and there's no point in shaking your fist at the sky
/r/seduction03/05/22 07:21 AM
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Your bedroom Bro, anything you take her out to will seem like a date because it is. I mean go grab a coffee or smoothie and head back to your place If you're going to start catering to her to "keep it this way" you're going to fumble the damn ball because the way you got to this point is by treating her like a fwb so why would you change the formula now? She's obviously starting to like you more by you doing minimal effort
/r/seduction03/05/22 07:06 AM
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Oh god
/r/seduction03/05/22 07:02 AM
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The responses on tinder will be about the same as getting numbers on the street so you need to keep pushing volume to find girls that are actually willing to meet Just be direct and ask them out. Don't try to be all cute. In fact, be sexual and push for a coffee date by your place so you can try to pull them. Or better yet just have them come straight over if possible It sounds like you've just been unlucky with these examples
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:58 AM
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Take off your own damn bra
/r/seduction03/05/22 06:53 AM
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I'd say the biggest thing I've realized is to go out later like 11 or midnight when things are already popping and people are drunk. I've gone out earlier and it does kinda suck if the bar is dead
/r/seduction02/05/22 07:29 PM
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I'd def not go that far for a date but it's like if you have to then there's no choice Best case scenario is walking distance from your place
/r/seduction02/05/22 05:55 PM
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Honestly... This is so damn true. It's funny how when chicks think you could be a good long term guy they will hold out on sex. Or at least put up a couple more barriers. Anti-slut shields engaged After this last chick I met, I'd think like damn I could be getting the same action without even going to dinner and shit. It's like I'm adding steps for no reason. We alternate who pays but still... Dinner is def a gf/bf thing
/r/seduction02/05/22 02:34 PM
0

She's now wondering if you're gay and is thinking who else to flirt with that will make a move
/r/seduction02/05/22 02:21 PM
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I think it's too broad to cover in a Reddit post really but your main roles as a male on a first date are to be FUN and to LEAD the date Anything deeper comes after you and the girl see you two can have fun together But really it starts with you... Do you do fun things? What is fun to you? What do you like to do? Remember when dating women you're inviting them to join you in your world you've created for yourself
/r/seduction02/05/22 02:15 PM
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The bottom line is if she's interested you could just send "hey" and go from there I mean the only other way to go is just be even more forward and say "been thinking about your body" or something and go sexual But if you're thinking you're going to do the YouTube dating advice "send her an inside joke and be funny then ask her out" then best of luck to you Just trying to help. I think you're already investing too much energy into it.
/r/seduction02/05/22 02:53 AM
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Find out what days she has off and ask her out on one of those days Getting her Snapchat is whatever because everyone likes social media friends. So make your move so you can either go out with her or move on
/r/seduction02/05/22 02:25 AM
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Hey let's get together when are you free
/r/seduction02/05/22 02:22 AM
1

I ruined many dates with alcohol but I'm a problem drinker and had to quit all together
/r/seduction02/05/22 01:04 AM
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Had a girl tell me she was 16 after I asked if she'd like to go out and I just said oh nevermind and left. It happens man not a big deal
/r/seduction02/05/22 12:56 AM
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This became a point of contention on Friday night with my buddy. Two girls asked us to play pool and my buddy starts getting upset I'm not talking to them. One was a grenade, the other a landmine. Afterward he begins to lecture me on if you want a high lay count sometimes you got to bang ugly chicks. I'm telling him I could barely look at them let alone think about getting an erection. One had an ok body but I couldn't get over her face. Anyway the whole night was toxic. I've lowered my standard…
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:54 PM
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Yes it's a bit much honestly. You can see it's a case by case basis but I'd just avoid it. If a girl I only saw one or twice posted a pic of us on social I'd prob think she was a clinger
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:43 AM
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Had a milf approach me at the gym and blow me in the "meditation room" I'll admit she was prob some kind of freak but she did this on two occasions And yes a guy walked in as she was blowing me the first time and was like "oh sorry!" as I was holding up a yoga mat to kinda block the view There are more normal circumstances but that is def the claim to fame story haha
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:32 AM
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Why the down votes I had to read it twice
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:13 AM
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Don't take this the wrong way but if you're more passive and quiet (feminine) of course gay dudes will be attracted to that because they're acting like men attracted to that energy just how straight guys will like a shy girl
/r/seduction01/05/22 03:44 AM
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Sounds like you've asked her out but she's camping or whatever else on the weekends? Overall it seems like you're knee deep in friend zone because maybe aside from whatever touching you described everything else would be the same with a female coworker of hers as well See what could be happening is you want to make it more intimate but she has more restraint to not let things get out of hand with her boss so she keeps you at just the right distance to have fun and pass time at work If I'm wrong …
/r/seduction01/05/22 03:36 AM
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No tell them you're new in town and people will love to tell you all about it Honestly when I just moved out herea year ago it was so easy to have the conversations that sometimes I want to still tell people I "just moved out here" And honestly I went out with a buddy last night, I much prefer alone. It's easier for me to take action then keep falling into the trap of just talking to my friend and not meet new people
/r/seduction01/05/22 03:17 AM
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Talking about wanting a relationship on the first date Treating her like a girlfriend after the first date Texting things like good morning, good night, I had a great time, thinking about you, xoxo, I miss you before and too much during exclusivity Making her the center of his universe Thinking not being sexual will make her like him
/r/seduction01/05/22 01:51 AM
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Yes kiss her and when you walk away, don't look back, don't text her after the date, wait for her to text you I understand your thinking completely But I'd wait to start "not kissing" once you see her a few more times What I mean is I saw this girl a couple times on dates, we'd always kiss and hook up. Then once I knew I was just seeing her for 15-20 min so I didn't kiss her or anything. She texted me quick after she left to make sure things were ok Of course they are
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:46 PM
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Well since this is Reddit, and the user name is "anti social", it's probably you're acting weird and socially cut off which causes other people to stifle their own behavior in return when around you. You're uncomfortable and then so are other people Then when they are around people who act open and gregarious, this allows them to do the same. Free of judgment Your behavior gives or removes permission for other people to act in certain ways
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:23 PM
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Men don't "want" relationships. It's more, they allow them to happen You'll never get a relationship if you're always sniffing around like a dog looking for a crumb of food that fell off the table If you don't believe me, next time you go on a date talk about how much you want a relationship. Tell her what a nice guy you are
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:16 PM
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No it's not sustainable. You'll eventually want to be intimate and start looking for people in person What you can do is keep her as a contact, sext her when you're bored and maybe she'll fly out and you guys and spend a week together or whatever that's about it
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:50 AM
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Only people who think men and women are friends, and act in such a way, have to specify if it's a date or not
/r/seduction29/04/22 04:16 PM
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It's over dude Women are seduced through their minds and fantasies and whatever life you've created ain't doing it for her. You like her more than she likes you. She's the center of your world and resents you for that "Most women are in relationships that are like a chronic disease they learn to live with"
/r/seduction29/04/22 04:08 PM
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Ok wait till you see her next and ask her out in person If she does like you it's not going to vanish in a week esp having a class together
/r/seduction29/04/22 03:53 PM
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Curious, what "attraction and momentum" is there? If she's texting you first you can ask her out on text
/r/seduction29/04/22 03:47 PM
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It's none of your business until she wants to be exclusive with you This is not to "tell you what to do" rather but a mindset to have It's just none of your business. Any time spent thinking about it will only hurt you (you realize this as it may change your behaviors to needy) The freedom to come and go willingly is what a valuable man offers women he dates. That is what sets you apart. We love seeing women flutter about and their feminine energy flourish in our presence. Anything to stifle tha…
/r/seduction29/04/22 02:09 PM
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Well she's never going back to game night... Dude at least you realize where you can improve Whenever I read situations like this I just remember the character from Of Mice and Men who had a mouse in his pocket and loved it so much he petted it till it died Good job being aware. Less is more
/r/seduction29/04/22 02:00 PM
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Wait Did she take your phone and put her # in or what And also any girl that can't just use words to communicate she's not interested is not worth your time especially after some banter
/r/seduction29/04/22 02:49 AM
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She's out with the dude that actually set a date with her
/r/seduction28/04/22 11:20 PM
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That is not a low response rate Also "saying hi is the success" so you had 50 success There's no way to change someone's mind if they're not into you so thinking not getting the number is a failure is a bit contaminated You'll only get better and your exchange rate will fluctuate constantly Some days you'll get 7 #s, other days 1 or 0 if you only do 10-20 approaches Anyway keep going
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:32 PM
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No not really. Roll up your sleeves you'll be good This is assuming it's all pretty normal colors and they're not like snake skin wing tips with an embroidered shirt with like a dragon in the back If you want to go more casual get some white low top sneakers instead of dress shoes with no show socks and reveal some ankle
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:03 PM
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Well you'd never want to discuss a relationship on a first date. Guys think it shows intent or commitment or something. But really the girl subconsciously feels her life slipping away with that kind of talk from a male. She wants to be free to flutter in romance and that language implies locking her down like a butterfly under glass. And it seems like you have no other options to her. Like it's a lot of pressure for anyone. Anyway, stop contacting her all together because anything else you do wi…
/r/seduction28/04/22 06:40 PM
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I'm just going to address a small part of the post, but there is no "difference" if you're just hooking up or looking for a relationship at first. But anyway first you're masculine, second you're fun, third you're socially competent (ie you go a bit deeper into conversations with her) I've had a couple girls ask who I voted for or whatever. Since they're liberals and they already "know" the answer. No I'm not going to argue with her and discuss this I just smile and say "I'm not talking politics…
/r/seduction28/04/22 05:37 PM
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I typically date chicks with dogs so I usually invite them to take our dogs off leash somewhere like a river or trail in town Dog is life hack
/r/seduction28/04/22 05:06 PM
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If she's responding, over all it's good But you shouldn't be texting her unless you're planning to ask her out She's not responding fast because she wasn't on bumble to meet a pen pal So think of what you'd like to do with her and set up a time and a place to meet because your window is closing if you don't make a move If you're just getting into dating, only use the phone to set dates. You'll text girls right out of your life if you get all buddy buddy
/r/seduction28/04/22 02:54 AM
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Wear tight jeans and look pretty. Choose the male who presents the best option. Dump him if he simps. Initiate electronic communication if you like him. There's the data diversity
/r/seduction27/04/22 08:29 PM
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Match and mirror her actions Don't think too much about it If she likes you she'll send you some random message within a week or so saying like "I saw this thing and it reminded me of this" and you'll be like ??? Tell me about it dinner
/r/seduction27/04/22 08:12 PM
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Strung along Seems like you're in her frame Ideally a female is to enter a males world in romance not the other way around Start inviting her to your place only and if she's interested romantically she should have no problem coming over
/r/seduction27/04/22 06:55 PM
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I moved, changed my number and ghosted old friends Maybe I could've approached it different but at the time that is what I had to do. I can always make amends later
/r/seduction27/04/22 05:26 PM
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I can't answer that question for you but you're the one that literally posted your dilemmas are keeping you from "living life" so figure out what that means to you and no, it's not chasing tail. You'll be left out to dry after a while if your world is centered around women. It's already happening I've been where you are man, I started drinking every day, stopped eating right, blew all my money and I just wanted to get fucked up and try to talk to girls Get your life right and women will follow e…
/r/seduction27/04/22 05:00 PM
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Yeah stop all contact with her, even in the hobby class put your attention to the other people and just focus on what it'd be like to enjoy yourself without her being there. Just say hi and move on to do your thing. It's good you're going away for 2 weeks. Break up the routine. Familiarity destroys intrigue. So what you're doing is up-ending the dynamic and this may create openings to where she gets curious and begins to pursue you a bit because you're not hanging around with your hand in her po…
/r/seduction27/04/22 04:51 PM
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You're in a bad place dude this whole post read like a red flag A woman will not fix whatever your mental illness may or may not be and if you NEED women you'll never get one. Maybe you'll entertain a drunk girl here and there and think you're being successful I mean it's good you found something you enjoy but it really sounds like you're running with scissors
/r/seduction27/04/22 04:39 PM
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Yes if you have a void of loneliness you're in no place to be thinking about women. Relationships are not void fillers. They're adornments to a purposeful life
/r/seduction27/04/22 04:35 PM
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Sounds like you acted like a friend and got treated like a friend Were you thinking these hobbies were some sort of date? I'm not judging, just asking Anyway, the quickest way to get someones attention is to remove yours but it's not magic. If she's not interested it doesn't matter if you cut contact or not but it's the best move for both of you if you're catching feelings and she's ghosting you
/r/seduction27/04/22 04:20 PM
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You have to be aware if you can't take her or leave her at any given moment you've already lost her Sometimes I'll sit and pretend I'll never see her again. I'll ask myself "what if the last time we hung out was the last time I saw her?" And I get comfortable with the thought and imagine my life going forward "well, I have more free time, I'll hit up this other girl, I'm not worried about pleasing anybody, maybe she wasn't as perfect as I thought" etc. I do this just over the course of a few min…
/r/seduction27/04/22 04:13 PM
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Yes, give it a week let things blow over You're worked up about it and that's not a good way to enter the situation. You'll have a lot more clarity in a weeks time
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:12 AM
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You go out by yourself You approach chicks you see during the day None of that is weird. Take the city by storm. Be excited
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:07 AM
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You go out on your days off? Most busy people only have a couple free nights a week if that... I think you're thinking too hard about it Go out after work, meet chicks. Schedule dates on your time off I'm not really seeing a problem
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:05 AM
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Honestly it sounds kinda needy But all that matters is you get her on the date so if it's been working for you don't change it
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:02 AM
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Lmao read half a book on pick up Gold
/r/seduction27/04/22 02:49 AM
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Bro don't do what you don't want to do You should never feel any pressure in romantic encounters Then it's just weird transactions
/r/seduction27/04/22 02:43 AM
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A date is a romantic opportunity for sex to happen First dates don't always end in sex, but the second or third is normal to take it that way A date is not dinner. A date is not movies. A date is spending romantic time with someone you're sexually attracted to regardless the details If I have a girl come over and we listen to music, have sex and she cuddles to me afterwards that is a date. That's an awesome fucking date actually. Then she goes home and maybe next time I'm hungry so I ask her to …
/r/seduction27/04/22 02:32 AM
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No you do not let loose once you're in a relationship She'll just leave you in 4 months instead of 4 weeks What you've always done is wrong. I'm not trying to say you're purposely doing bad things. But you said it yourself. It doesn't work. It won't work in the beginning and it won't work in the end. Dude please take this as constructive advice but honestly your post reads like it was written by a woman. You're on the right track. You see a little of what works when you act in such a way that re…
/r/seduction27/04/22 02:06 AM
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Look up Mike Mehlman on YouTube to get a different perspective on rejections One binge through his material will open you up
/r/seduction27/04/22 12:52 AM
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No Ignore everything and get her # Got her number? Ignore all her social media. Simp boy down the block can be her friend You set dates
/r/seduction27/04/22 12:48 AM
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Meet me here at 7 If a girl goes to meet a guy who approached her and called her cute she knows it's a date. You don't have to specify
/r/seduction26/04/22 10:38 PM
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I am very sarcastic as well but that is because I was raised in a house hold that showed no affection and any emotional problems were minimized through sarcasm. I've had to learn how to tone it down and actually listen to people because not everyone was raised in such an environment and I have really hurt girls feelings before not in any seductive way. But the thing is you have a lot to work with since you can be "clever" already (it's harder to teach wit if the guy has no humor than to tone it …
/r/seduction26/04/22 10:25 PM
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The phone is for setting dates Maybe once you get a little more experience you can get a sexual response (meaning she texted you first) in there to build tension for the next date There's a lot to cover. But the first thing to do is stop texting girls after your dates. Let them reach out and if you don't hear from them, contact them in a week to set another date Start there
/r/seduction26/04/22 08:58 PM
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That's awesome man. Good to hear. That's then why she tested you because she wanted to make sure you ARE that confident guy. Women will only test guys they see fit to "be" with So just keep being that guy and take note. You just asked her to watch a movie. She is the one that brought up sex... Cause it was on her mind
/r/seduction26/04/22 03:47 PM
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Man it sounds like you had a girl in your car like any other guy would despite culture... But I'll concede, maybe my approach is a bit aggressive for an Arab woman. I really don't know. But yours was too passive for any woman. So hopefully through this experience you can find that edge to be a sexual, masculine leader. But no you weren't rude if that is your main concern I just want you be successful so hopefully something helps you. Best regards
/r/seduction26/04/22 03:30 PM
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No you prob could've had her in bed even if she didn't fuck but now she knows you can't deal with her shit She goes "you mean Netflix and chill?" You say "idk does Netflix have Disney movies?" She laughs and you take her inside
/r/seduction26/04/22 03:15 PM
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My $200 Motorola shit phone works just fine
/r/seduction26/04/22 02:21 PM
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Yes it's normal unless your girl has asked you to be exclusive Until SHE brings it up, and you agree, you're both single You see the problem is many guys go on 1 or 2 dates and start treating her like a girlfriend. That is not how things work and that is also why she disappears
/r/seduction26/04/22 02:13 PM
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Nashville Keep in mind Americans (girls) love accents like UK/Aus so you'll be fine in either city. Nashville is just 6x larger
/r/seduction26/04/22 02:07 PM
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You have to practice. It's a skill that needs to be constantly maintained if it's not natural for you. So you have to consciously make the effort at first. I honestly don't think I looked anyone in the eyes the first 15 years of my life. Now I have games with myself and coworkers, I'll tell myself I'm NOT looking away first as I talk to this guy. And sometimes it gets intense but I just laugh to myself afterward. And then I realized it's normal to fucking look at someone when you talk You can th…
/r/seduction26/04/22 01:57 PM
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Google "timeless casual mens fashion" You'll see a lot of staples of clothing and ways to dress that are always fashionable and you don't look like a psychopath from LA Also think of it like this "shoes and pants make the outfit" You can wear nice chino pants, white sneakers and a brown belt and throw on almost any color t shirt on top. You can just stick that look every day honestly. Switch out jeans or different color pants to change it up Get slim fit pants at least, or if you're big, get pan…
/r/seduction26/04/22 01:38 PM
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That's because people stuck in their routine lives would rather cut a successful person down at the knees than have to face their own short comings When you're 70 years old you're not going to be thinking "that person 45 years ago thought I was weird" or whatever age you are. At some point you have to internalize you only live once so do what it takes to eradicate regret with extreme prejudice Maybe I projected a bit but I hope you find some clarity
/r/seduction26/04/22 06:01 AM
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Keep doing you. You won't get cancelled. Don't let one fruit loop ruin your experiences. Dude half the women on the planet wish a dude would come up to them. Maybe they won't admit it, maybe the timing you approach just doesn't work out, but everyone wants to find love especially in a fantasy sort of way like "it just happened" Even in media they play up the trope of meeting people at the grocery store because it is an emotional and idealized sort of thing. But for you, it's reality and yeah of …
/r/seduction26/04/22 05:44 AM
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Maybe my approach was harsh, some guys need that. But believing first impressions are not your strength is a false belief. I was the same way. I literally read books on how to talk to people. I have to approach everything social as a skill I can learn and improve. And also, I used to think approach was like a sales pitch. Again, that's false. I understand you feel that way because so did I. You're not pitching anything to a woman when you approach. You're creating opportunities for two people wh…
/r/seduction26/04/22 05:29 AM
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In this situation I'd just soft close since you can't ask her out to meet you tonight Something like "Keep your lips ready" Ok maybe that sounds cheesy But what you're doing is being sexual, and implying she WILL see you. Like, you already know it's going down and she's going to be down. No question And it's only 4 words, not needy, and it just sets her up to keep fantasizing while not extending a conversation that leads to no where at this point in time Because she'll hit you up again when she'…
/r/seduction26/04/22 01:50 AM
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Ok so I "get" you But what would've you pushed for there? To get her number in 3 minutes instead of 2? Take longer? The reason you'd want to push is to insta date if she had no plans Because if she was really into you she'll reply after a 30 sec convo or a 5 minute convo So it's awesome you got in there but it sounded like instead of getting her # you let her go anyway so what does it matter? This is all to help and thanks for posting your experience. Correct any facts I maybe got incorrect of t…
/r/seduction26/04/22 01:19 AM
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Just push a coffee date don't waste your energy
/r/seduction25/04/22 11:20 PM
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Just own it "I mean I enjoy spending time with beautiful women" Seriously I've spent way too much effort trying to "not come off sexual" Well guess what. I am Trying to stifle that in any way does me zero good. Maybe you can relate.
/r/seduction25/04/22 10:52 PM
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Here's what I just read Blah blah blah I don't want to approach because it's scary You don't have to approach but don't sell yourself short by intellectually trying to rationalize it. Here's some corny self development talk: Rationalize = rational lies I know you asked a question where to meet people but I think you really know the answer is not what you want to hear
/r/seduction25/04/22 08:30 PM
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Seduction is always a mask We wear masks all day, so to think all of a sudden that in dating you're just going to be yourself will leave you hanging But that is not to say the mask doesn't get more refined and integrated with experience
/r/seduction25/04/22 08:11 PM
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Yes it's a linear progression of rejection to exchanging info You have no way of knowing who will reject you and who will be receptive and any attempt to avoid rejection is denying the process and also needy behavior
/r/seduction25/04/22 08:06 PM
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"I'm not looking for a relationship either. But I'm interested, so what did you think this date was?" Get them to talk it out and see what their reservations are so you can talk through the obstacle and minimize their concerns But ultimately you know in your head if they keep harping on friendship then politely offer to walk them to their car. So you have to feel each one out. That's if you want to invest that much energy To be honest it's hard to tell why this has happened to you more than once…
/r/seduction25/04/22 08:03 PM
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Listen This dude is obviously a novice and so are most people on here. I went conservative with my advice because I remember learning this stuff there were many times I fucked up by trying to be cute and witty with shit test responses. Everyone thinks they're James bond till they say something that gets him ghosted And anyway the harder a guy is trying to handle a shit test the more needy he's going to be even if it's covert so he's already on a losing trajectory
/r/seduction25/04/22 07:10 AM
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Nah, kiss her but here's the thing. You want to minimize or avoid dates completely that can't end in sex. This is not to say you will get laid every first date but honestly you'll see you are wasting a lot of time on "platonic" dates If you knew she had to go to work I mean spend 20 minutes with her and get out of there. Honestly, if you had spent 15 minutes with her and just got her so hot and bothered by kissing her like it was the last time you saw her she's probably be ready to go the next d…
/r/seduction25/04/22 05:47 AM
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Lol damn
/r/seduction25/04/22 05:42 AM
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What happened is she shit tested you, you then tried to flip it on her, and she very subtlety flipped it on you So you dug yourself deeper Don't get cocky and try to flip things on girls, you'll get outplayed So just deflect it in a neutral way Her: "You lower you standards" You: "I like who I like." It's still your frame and you didn't create friction
/r/seduction25/04/22 05:37 AM
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When a girl says "busy" just stop all forward movement. Every time. You have two options: Do not respond and hit her up in a couple months Or say something like "no problem contact me when you're free" and walk away forever But good job getting the date and being aware enough to not blow up her phone Keep the momentum going and get another date with a new girl. Best regards brother
/r/seduction24/04/22 01:56 AM
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The quality of your life is directly proportional to the amount of uncertainty you're comfortable with
/r/seduction24/04/22 01:49 AM
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If you have to ask you'll never know But it's good you're at least wrestling with the notion. Got to start somewhere Best regards
/r/seduction24/04/22 01:41 AM
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No you should've asked her out yesterday. Listen, no girl is on Tinder to make text friends. This is going to be a bold statement. Do not get offended. They're on there to get fucked by a guy who knows what he's doing Like you said brother, she's going out with a guy or she's going out with her friend to meet a guy at the club or whatever So keep in mind, next time you're talking to a girl on tinder you want to be her best option to have sex with. Even if you don't have sex on the first date fin…
/r/seduction24/04/22 01:27 AM
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Try a mental experiment Imagine yourself never having sex again in your life. Pretend it will really happen. No vaginas for you ever. Be ok with that. Internalize it. Because like you said if you can't walk away from it, you'll never get it. It's just an exercise to create a little distance from how horny you are. You can be aware but it can't control you. Paradoxically, it keeps you from getting laid And take action. Keep approaching. Maybe you fucked up all your last approaches but that's good…
/r/seduction24/04/22 01:01 AM
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More volume If you're facing less success that means you have to approach more women Think, if you're used to 10% success But now you're experiencing 2% How do you increase that? (Rhetorical)
/r/seduction24/04/22 12:55 AM
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Seduction takes effort. It's almost like having a second part time job. I have fallen into the trap of "if it happens, it happens. I'll wait till it's meant to be. I'd rather have one quality girl than date a lot" blah blah. Even though I made some progress, that passive mentality is more subtle fragments of my former bitch self still floating around. When I get lazy I can easily justify inaction because honestly that is how I approached women most of my life. I didn't. Inaction. Every once and …
/r/seduction23/04/22 06:00 PM
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I see it just describing female nature. Women come and go like cats and you can't chase them or hold them down. You let them come to you
/r/seduction23/04/22 05:21 PM
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Write down your goals with a pen and paper or you got nothing
/r/seduction23/04/22 08:33 AM
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Those are all her trying to be nice and make excuses The bottom line is you behaved in such a way that turned her off Your best bet is to just remove all your attention from her, talk to other girls maybe she'll get curious and contact you again Aside from that just move on
/r/seduction23/04/22 08:16 AM
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🤢🤮
/r/seduction23/04/22 08:10 AM
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Huh? I really don't know what's going on. If you guys go home together what are you trying to do different No weird brush up on cheek is going to work. It may work once if she is really desiring you that night, but if there's another night she's not feeling you it will turn her off You're better off just enjoying yourself with your friends. If she wants you she'll find a way to get in your orbit. Make your move when she comes to you. Ideally you want it so she's willingly coming over to you look…
/r/seduction23/04/22 07:56 AM
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You seem self aware and introspective So think of it this way. Everyone more or less is confined to their daily lives, going about their usual business, entrapped by a routine. But most people out there would love, or are even waiting for, a fantasy to happen or at least a perceived supernatural event where destiny touches reality and they just happen to meet someone attractive and different to in essence rescue them from the stagnation of, let's say, riding a train home after work. Now not ever…
/r/seduction23/04/22 02:35 AM
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Wait till later on in the night when everybody's a little more buzzed Start throwing a football with a buddy but "accidently" nail her in the back of the head When you're helping her off the floor whisper in her ear "I like the way you move"
/r/seduction23/04/22 02:19 AM
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Go sexual Are you more of a fuck against a wall or face down on the bed type of girl? It's for a school project I'm doing
/r/seduction23/04/22 02:13 AM
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You can't bluff a woman so boldly They have been playing the game since they learned to speak with their fathers. It's their very nature When you bring up your "preselection" you bring it up in the past tense "Girls I've dated" "all the chicks I've talked to" "on other dates I've been on" You just show you've done this before If you try to rub anything overtly in a girls face she'll call your bluff so hard you'll be on here posting "guys I really messed up, what should I text her" I promise you
/r/seduction23/04/22 01:59 AM
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I think you're making excuses I do understand the reputation thing, I live in a small town too. So you never get angry, you never treat a girl like total shit, you want to be adding value every where you go. You want people excited too see you out in public or at least neutral. Create a reputation that works for you. So there's 2 clubs? Ok, get to know the staff by name, if you're with a girl and you have people greeting you at the club that's good shit Idk about this eye contact thing man. Just…
/r/seduction22/04/22 03:23 PM
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Nice gj pushing yourself
/r/seduction22/04/22 03:17 PM
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Yeah just stop talking to her. Maybe she'll text you out the blue when she sees you moved on
/r/seduction22/04/22 03:16 PM
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Honestly, I think how eager a woman breaks off some neck is more valuable then if she fucks or not at first Cause we can have sex but if she's not going to swallow the hard truth then idk...
/r/seduction22/04/22 02:40 PM
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She's prob upset you never asked her out on a date in 3 weeks You may have lost your chance but you either got to ask her out to a real life date with you or stop thinking about her
/r/seduction22/04/22 02:18 PM
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I tend to carry myself pretty well but I was walking past a cute chick at a department store the other day and I knocked like 5 watches off a display case as I passed by her. It was like straight out of a TV show or something. I just laughed at myself as I picked them up cause taking yourself too seriously is what's cringe
/r/seduction22/04/22 05:10 AM
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Idk it was a waffle house so anything is possible
/r/seduction22/04/22 02:26 AM
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I'll share a story, take it how you will I left my # on a napkin with the receipt I was by myself when I dined, and just told her a little bit of why I was there after a crazy night (I was hung over if not still drunk) I was the only person there at the time so her attention was pretty open She texted me within the next couple hours after I left
/r/seduction22/04/22 01:49 AM
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Yeah I can think of two dudes I've met like that and both had other guys around them lose their shit One was back in high school and I remember him telling me he lost a best friend cause the bf would lash out emotionally about how he would get all the chicks and everyone liked him Another dude I worked with and I heard another male co worker going off about "he's a terrible employee he's nothing but a pretty face" It's like whoa bro, did you really just throw in that last part?
/r/seduction21/04/22 11:42 PM
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Rip Don't contact her till she hits you back
/r/seduction21/04/22 11:35 PM
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I have a theory that I call the "hotel effect" When a woman comes into your place you want that feeling you get when you step into a nice hotel room Nicely furnished, maybe some plants and other trinkets, everything seems sterile and dusted, fresh scent, have a blue tooth speaker that you can immediately sync to your phone, curtains, hand towels, soap, no clutter etc Honestly with your fridge you can have just drinks like water, sports drinks, alcohol This is a little thing but I remember a girl…
/r/seduction21/04/22 08:00 PM
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Good job
/r/seduction21/04/22 07:01 PM
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Well he got you to think so much about him that you posted on Reddit
/r/seduction21/04/22 01:41 PM
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I mean if you can get her to laugh that is good But remember you're also trying to see if she's even an interesting person for you to invest So you can start off indirect, but I'd aim quickly to "break rapport' meaning like you can turn the conversion to a statement about her For example I was talking to a woman at the dog park just about our dogs and whatever. But instead of throwing the ball for her dog she drop kicked it So I "break rapport' and say "that's funny, I didn't expect you to kick …
/r/seduction21/04/22 03:46 AM
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Don't give her that out like "if you don't want to it's cool" because already I think you were kind of weak with the hug thing since you were like "only a hug?" I'm not dogging you, just analyzing. Just ask her when she's free like any other chick. Treat all women the same. Yeah sometimes it's hard but you're putting yourself in a losing position already. I think you're getting kinda worked up cause she's a hottie but good job landing the first date
/r/seduction20/04/22 10:45 PM
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Oneitis is mentally holding a girl hostage and stalking her with your thoughts and in fact those behaviors are manifesting on a spectrum in your life Ask yourself if that's the guy you want to be And the thing is with that mentality you'd never get her anyway. Lose lose situation
/r/seduction20/04/22 08:26 PM
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Here's the thing about 80/20 talking Sometimes there are times where you as the guy will seem like you're talking more. I'd fall into the trap like "omg I'm talking more than her right now I need to shut up" The thing is, right now because really, look back on the date overall and then go over the average of her talking versus you. Maybe you know this, but I'm just sharing something that would keep me from talking naturally and having organic conversations. I had to let go of trying to manifest …
/r/seduction20/04/22 03:59 PM
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Send a dicky through the work Google chat
/r/seduction20/04/22 02:34 PM
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It's not how much but how nuanced. Maybe that's not the right word But creating a free and non judgemental sexual essence with a girl will always set you apart Some girls you can be vulgar and say I want to be in the back of your throat right now Others you might say I want you with your legs wrapped around me Both are pretty escalated and essentially create the same vibe but it's just a difference of language from vulgar to softer At the very first you might just say something very light like "…
/r/seduction19/04/22 09:54 PM
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If you had two women texting you and one said "hey how are you" and the other said "I want you to push me up against the wall" which would you be thinking about? Maybe not the best parallel since a girl could just text an emoji and that's enough for us guys but you get the idea
/r/seduction19/04/22 03:20 PM
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She's not ignoring the device She's ignoring your what's up text It's good you kinda escalated with the you're kinda cute, but then you went into friendship mode and exchanged tattoo artist info or whatever These girls want a man to take it up a level After the cute text you could say I like your hair too, looks good for pulling. Then go to set up a date. Down to business I mean that's a random example but you went friendly with her and she isn't trying to make new friends Now you're another dud…
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:49 PM
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At least you recognize you texted too much If she liked you enough to give you her number, that's when you use your best wing man: her imagination For whatever reason she was attracted to you. Attraction is not a choice. She saw you, she liked you. You didn't have to say anything or do anything except set a time and a place to meet and show up. She was building you up in her mind. So next time just be straight up with the logistics. If she likes you she will show up.
/r/seduction18/04/22 10:03 PM
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Women become aroused through their mind so whatever you're doing isn't making her imagination tingle You must look good enough for her to let you hit it but your actions and behavior are drying her up
/r/seduction18/04/22 09:28 PM
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You tried to play it cool and froze to death Bro I did that last week, I said some shit "maybe we shouldn't hang out anymore" she gives me "nice knowing you 👋" and i lost my shit Smoked a whole black and mild (tobacco relapse) and called my boy on the phone like dude I fucked up I knew at that point I had to just leave it and not contact her She hit me up the next day though and I learned a lot, mostly I still got some bitch in me Also, that's not the first time trying to game chicks that alread…
/r/seduction18/04/22 08:10 PM
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I vaguely understand what you mean, I've gotten down on myself and then tried to justify it Whether you think you're good enough or not, you're right It's needy that you are acting needy It's not needy to improve social skills in specific regards to women Learning a new language is not needy But yes, "the true self always shines through" so if you're struggling inside with neediness and insecurity you need to address yourself first before you continue talking to women
/r/seduction18/04/22 07:39 PM
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Idk every time I get a chick back it's just animalistic once the door closes there's no "let me see if she lets me touch her tit" That is not to say there isn't some "let's take it slow" once we're in bed, of course I stop and calibrate but the initial flare is always there. Also I live in a studio apartment so the bed is right there. Works out great I mean when you're making out with a chick, it should feel like sex for both of you. Grab her hair, hand on neck gently, push her against a wall if…
/r/seduction18/04/22 05:59 PM
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Dude honestly, 96% of dudes wouldn't even be going out alone I mean the only thing I would've done different is not compliment them right off the bat, maybe not yell to them. Like if you were all together in line then you could've made the Easter joke. I think being loud and goofy is more the move later on when everyone is drunk, if that's your style Anyway, did you do it for yourself or for them? If it was a group of grandmas going to bingo who ignored you would you feel as down about it? Good …
/r/seduction18/04/22 05:28 PM
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You're always screening women But it's up to you if you want to sleep with as many as you can or only spend time with the ones you find genuinely cool I'd say just talk to all of them who are giving you attention, and only spend time with the ones who make it easy. You'll know because they make it easy to know their schedule, and they will agree to a date with enthusiasm If there's any "oh idk I'm busy" or "work is crazy" just leave it there But trust me, when you do decide to settle down with a…
/r/seduction17/04/22 06:41 AM
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Ok so drop the bullshit I'm not giving you shit but if you're not enjoying it then cut it out. Because at the end of the day, this should all be for you to become a better man with an awesome life. I promise, if you've had success with women so far, if you just take a step back and quit doing things you don't like, you'll prob get more success. Push pull can work, but being a self assured man with no dependence on outcome works better. I mean if a chick is feeling you, you can just say damn you'…
/r/seduction17/04/22 06:25 AM
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No I go out with a football and just drill them in the back of the head and say sorry me and my boy are practicing drills, would you like to go out?
/r/seduction17/04/22 02:27 AM
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Interesting, I also live in a college town and can't throw a rock without hitting a cute girl, I swear. So it's like I always go out looking good, grocery store, park with dog, walking trails, bars, restaurants they're everywhere I don't actually throw rocks at cute girls
/r/seduction17/04/22 02:20 AM
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Fucking hell Here's my first date set up from the last # I got Me: How about (location) at 5 Her: Ok sounds good! You could've had this chick out on two dates by now When a female contacts you, assume she wants to see you and you set a time and location to meet So at this point think of a cool place you'd like to go Then see when she is free again, and say "let's meet at (location) at (time)" I'd ditch any notion of "texting game" and start practicing setting dates with women I'm not trying to d…
/r/seduction17/04/22 01:57 AM
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Take a step back You're in too deep right now. Take some pressure off. Tell yourself you're not going to talk to women for a month or two You've probably gained a lot of skills through the experience but you lost yourself a bit. Start to just do things you enjoy for you. And I promise when you're just being your best self without having though about ladies for a bit, a great one will come around and you'll be able to fall back on the positive things you've learned through all those previous date…
/r/seduction15/04/22 08:40 PM
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All that bullshit speak of hers is what she thinks she wants cause she's dated losers all her life Like, it sounds good on paper but she had prob never dated someone who acts like a man in a relationship so she has never gotten to act like a real "lady" let's say You got to be able to handle her so she can be free to be feminine with you or she'll ditch you like the rest This is assuming she is mentally stable herself
/r/seduction15/04/22 07:50 PM
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No, because part of "working on myself" is realizing humans do human shit Or specifically, women do women things I can't get upset at feminine energy as I choose to interact with it I think women are beautiful, and having been dragged through the mud allows me to appreciate the really good ones worth my time It was never women that needed to change, it was always me
/r/seduction15/04/22 07:38 PM
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Awesome brother thanks for the update. You ever try to set dates at first instead of just getting the number?
/r/seduction15/04/22 07:35 PM
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I don't understand what you're saying but I appreciate your input. I do agree with hanging out more than 2-3x per week is a bit much until the relationship is exclusive And yes, relationships are developed in person not over electronic communication
/r/seduction15/04/22 07:25 PM
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Or when you're actually getting ready and you get that feeling "man I don't even want to be doing this right now" you'll get that fuck it attitude. Just remember it's all about having fun She already likes you enough to see you So just make sure you both are HAVING FUN If her feelings are high, she'll do the work to get closer and all you got to do is be man enough to grab her and go for the kiss and anything else you see fit for the evening Have fun. Listen to her. Address concerns. Have fun.
/r/seduction15/04/22 06:57 PM
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Give yourself permission to verbalize whatever thoughts come to your mind to say I deal with a huge intellectual block between my mind and mouth. So I actually will have a thought, not say it, then remember to ALLOW myself to say it, then say it The more I practice, the more feedback I get whether positive or negative and I can more confidently express myself thereafter One thing to realize is, 75% of positive interactions are how you make people FEEL not what you say. So as you get better at co…
/r/seduction15/04/22 04:45 PM
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She sounds like a walking red flag. She's prob dating simps cause real men kick her to the streets with that attitude.
/r/seduction15/04/22 04:21 PM
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When I felt the way you did I realized I had problems making conversation with anyone, not just women. I used to think small talk was stupid, or I was above it. If I can't talk to a stranger on the street about the weather, I def can't keep a conversation with a woman I'm approaching. So maybe consider your communication and openness on a whole. There are books to read also. Just cause people got mouths doesn't mean they know how to conversate. It's a learnable skill like any other.
/r/seduction15/04/22 04:18 PM
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No good morning or good nights Text him around lunch time or early afternoons so you can possibly set dates that night If it's like a few days later since you hung out, you can be forward and say "hey so when are you free again?" To skip texting banter
/r/seduction15/04/22 03:11 PM
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Bro she's basically asking you out without asking you out A woman will flutter around you like a butterfly but you got to make a move to set a date and a time or she'll think you're uninterested, gay or scared. "When are you free?" That's it brother Then pick one of the places she showed you and set a time to meet there
/r/seduction15/04/22 02:54 PM
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It's natural for a woman to pursue a man she finds suitable If this guy is worth his salt he'll understand that by you reaching out it means you'd like to see him and he'll set a date to meet up
/r/seduction15/04/22 02:47 PM
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Start talking to everyone the moment you step out your house to get your sociality going Say hi to people in the parking lot, greet the door men, talk to the guy next to you buying a drink at the bar just keep the momentum going The last thing you want to do is lose social energy and start to clam up
/r/seduction15/04/22 02:34 PM
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I wear beanies out a lot. Last chick I met, we were making out at my place, she goes "never seen you without your beanie" I reach to take it off and just say "I'm bald" and stared right at her She looks at me, grabs my face and starts making out harder Full shave btw I love it
/r/seduction15/04/22 02:20 PM
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You prob have a filter like I did You have permission to say anything you'd like With men and women both, it's not what you say but how you make them feel So maybe think about that. If you're feeling awkward, she will too. So instead of thinking about what to say, think about how to relax, how to enjoy yourself during the process.
/r/seduction14/04/22 10:30 PM
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Nothing It's my experience that the woman will probably check in before the date to confirm, if she doesn't hear from you If not you just show up to the spot anyway Sounds like you're a little afraid she'll forget you. Fear based behavior. If you had a date with your dream girl in 5 days, would you forget? If she texts you, just act normal. But don't act out of fear of being forgotten. Because I promise if you get all texty and she flakes, you're going to wish you just said nothing
/r/seduction14/04/22 10:17 PM
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I'm not sure exactly where you're going with this But I also do not try to convert low interest women. I was a dancing monkey one too many times So I think I get you
/r/seduction14/04/22 10:11 PM
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Yes it was a little butthurt I've done similar things man, I get it. Then I realized this is the life I chose by talking to women. So here is when you make some choices as a man. Yes some women may do this shit to you. But you either get offended and lash out. Or you realize simply this is behavior you do not tolerate in someone you wish to date. You can now create new boundaries with women you set in the future that may get flaky. Because maybe she would've hit you up the next day and apologize…
/r/seduction14/04/22 09:06 PM
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I'd let it go for now Just keep no communication and focus on your move and life At some points you must be giving out relationship vibes by bringing up your guys' future together or something like that instead of keeping everything casual, light and playful in the moment. Everything is about how she feels with you and for one reason or another she's feeling smothered and locked down at this point Even these conversations about her needing you to meet her half way or whatever is like shit a marr…
/r/seduction14/04/22 08:29 PM
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Hey man that is awesome And the fact you walked with the chick around the park is good too Also it's great you're recognizing "comms" One of the biggest things I look for is if I stop talking after a while is if she "fills the gap" So instead of ever feeling like you need to fill every void with chatter, let there be a couple pauses. Especially if you two are having a good talk. If she's willing to invest that little bit into the conversion, it is a good sign to close with her. And after you get…
/r/seduction14/04/22 04:59 PM
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Listen to The Psychology of Selling audiobook on YouTube. Goes over rejection pretty well
/r/seduction14/04/22 03:52 PM
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Check the username Give her space
/r/seduction14/04/22 01:48 PM
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When random women come on strong in person it's my experience they want to get together that day or night. Like they want to be with you in that specific window of time. So when she was at the bar, she wanted you, your attention and maybe if you pursued more you could've taken her home. But 5 days later, she's sober, not at the bar, her life is going on, she's got other friends yada yada and that care free feel good window has passed. So she blew you off. And didn't offer to reschedule. Just say…
/r/seduction14/04/22 01:30 PM
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Many people walk their dogs through the college campus nearby. But you need a dog
/r/seduction14/04/22 01:19 PM
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Hey dude that is awesome you had a good interaction And good job going direct. No clown texting Something that helps me is right when I get the # I text just my name without even telling the chick. Don't even make it a big deal. Don't mention it. Save number then just text your name. One, if she's really into you she might even text you later, or the next day just cause she's got your number already. Then it's very fluid to set the date. Two, it saves you from having to introduce yourself again …
/r/seduction14/04/22 04:16 AM
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You only have one life I used to have friends I thought I'd always chill with when I was 18-19 I talk to zero of them at this point. I did talk to one up till last year. But because I wanted to be better with life and women and he was happy just playing video games and getting high, I had to cut him out. For one, he'd give me shit about getting into things like pick up. Always trying to cut me down to his level. Stick with the winners Sometimes it's hard but remember, you are who you surround yo…
/r/seduction14/04/22 03:18 AM
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She's an active alcoholic So it's up to you if you want to be around that
/r/seduction14/04/22 12:25 AM
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Awesome Now you're a better person And you'll have newer problems like how to interact with chicks after the first couple dates
/r/seduction13/04/22 10:49 PM
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I've heard dominican girls are trouble but I don't believe it Edit: this was the text to send. I wasn't just making an observation
/r/seduction13/04/22 06:37 PM
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I see easy more blue than gray texts and a shit ton of emojis Looks like she played you for some validation. Why were you not talking about setting a date with her. "Lmk see your hair cut" "I'll show you in person, when are you free next?"
/r/seduction13/04/22 06:11 PM
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Yes and by your reply to the other comment, it seems to be more a mindset thing Do a thought experiment and think of the specific dudes who had those hot metal chicks. How are those guys personalities different from yours? Don't get caught up thinking I'm telling you to compare yourself. But it may shed light onto areas you can improve Because now it sounds like it's not 'i want hotter women' per se but it seems you may be looking to become a more attractive man in general and the women would be…
/r/seduction13/04/22 06:00 PM
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From sales: Become the client you wish to attract Just by what your said you have an unconventional style which is awesome. But maybe that only attracts certain kinds of hipster, rocker chicks or whatever. So if you really want to try something different think about changing your look a little bit to be more modern attractive to open up the spectrum of women who pursue you And also, you have to have the mindset that you're capable of dating these women even if you haven't dated the more attracti…
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:41 PM
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No In fact, men do not have female friends They would all bang you on the drop of a hat but they might be too soft and passive to make such a move so they hang around you and make you garden benches hoping you'll be the man and ask them out like a fairy tale movie scene This assuming you're decently attractive Best regards
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:30 PM
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Women, like men, check out bodies. So the first thing you can do is dress sexier. Make sure your clothes accent your body. Women check out asses, bulges, thighs, shoulders just like guys do to them. Tailor this to your environment. If you're out in Kentucky, you don't need to go skinny fitted everything, but make sure it looks good and it's not too baggy. Anyway... Carry yourself proudly. Work on strengthening your back will help you stand taller, and keep your shoulders back. Women are attracte…
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:20 PM
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I get you. I always was so tempted to go off about how "there is no game" But the thing is I realized I may be lucky. I've always gotten attention from girls. I just had to learn to not fuck it up. I never considered where I was starting from compared to some guys that are straight basement dweller mama boys who decide they want to make a change. They have no idea what it's like for a woman to be interested. Maybe they've never kissed a chick or even touched one, for real. I realized "be yoursel…
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:05 PM
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No it's just a movie You want to be having fun with a woman when you two are together. If you ain't fun she'll lose interest in any mysterious vibe you put off and be gone.
/r/seduction13/04/22 04:02 PM
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Well by the title, it's great you have that self awareness But it'd be creepy. That's like when I used to write girls poems cause I thought life was like the movies. That shit just turns you into code red stalker. I remember once leaving candy and a DVD I bought at a girls doorstep... She lived in a gated neighborhood. Lmfao fuck man. I forget how far I've come. Set your date and stop contacting her. You'll see her on date night.
/r/seduction13/04/22 03:55 PM
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Give her this one shot but if she does it again then you say something
/r/seduction13/04/22 02:56 PM
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Awesome to hear about the other date And there's nothing to lead with after 2 weeks. I get what you're saying but she either likes you enough to set a date with you or it's not going to happen. So a simple "What's your schedule like?" Or however you phrase it should be enough. Women make it easy if they want to see you. Don't think about it too much. Cause then you're needy investing, or you're going to try to impress her with some cringe text. I mean, she just moved also, she's got a lot of shi…
/r/seduction13/04/22 02:50 PM
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Ok seems it went well that first night. But it just seemed a little too much too fast after that. Unless she's hitting you up first, stick to one date per week. Because in her mind she went from single to now there's this dude texting me every 2 days. She's pulling back. Feeling confined. Yeah just give her a week or two, ultimately so hopefully she hits you up and the dynamic is her pursuing you again. If you don't hear from her after that time, it's prob not good honestly but you can still sen…
/r/seduction13/04/22 02:32 PM
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Well she shit tested you into a shit test You shouldn't have tried to put it on her because now you challenged her ego which she defended well. And you're in the same spot you started You could've said like "you think I'm weird now, wait till you see my Pokemon card collection" Honestly, you pass the test and imply she's going to hang out with you at some point But good job with the awareness. The more experiences like this you get you'll eventually say fuck it I don't give a shit then you'll mo…
/r/seduction13/04/22 01:25 PM
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Go ultra fuckboy "You look like trouble"
/r/seduction13/04/22 12:53 PM
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It's all context You seem to know basic concepts. So you know compliments from neediness get a guy no where. But at the same time, if a girl comes over for a date and you just look her up and down and say damn I find you so sexy, come here and just grab her and kiss her it's totally different. And about the "therapy session" thing, you're thinking too much about it. Let her talk. Let her talk, talk talk. But you listen and punctuate the conversion with genuine care for her and also flirty commen…
/r/seduction13/04/22 03:24 AM
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One thing is texting her first But also, dude you met her at a club. High chance you are not going to pull "long term" material there. She was in the moment, maybe looking for a good time and that's it. You may never know. Don't contact her anymore unless you hear from her It could not even be you. Maybe she's feeling kinda slutty for taking you home. Again, you may never know Maybe you'll hear from her but you should prob let her go
/r/seduction13/04/22 03:18 AM
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Good job, seriously Got to start somewhere A drill I used to do: while walking wherever I'd make brief eye contact with passerbys, smile, say hello without breaking stride or expecting a response
/r/seduction13/04/22 03:02 AM
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She's prob bringing up her ex to see how you feel about it I bet if you start flirting and help her "get over her ex" she'd prob be down to go further with you Seems like she's bringing it up to get "permission" from you to keep going
/r/seduction12/04/22 11:50 PM
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Well at the end you ask what's the right move. Like what do you mean by that? What are you looking for from whatever move you take? Also, I was doing a long distance thing just like you with someone I met on a mutual zoom meeting. She lived literally on the other side of the world. She started making plans to come and see me. Well I wasn't so into her that I'd want to host her at my place for a week so I ghosted. I didn't intend to, but as each day went by it just got easier to not contact her. …
/r/seduction12/04/22 11:30 PM
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I'm an alcoholic also Last year I was drinking before and during every date. The last few went horrible because I got wasted. One chick walked out on me. Another time I got whiskey dick on a potential same day lay. So I quit drinking and stopped pursuing women for a while. I just went on my first dates sober with a chick I met First one we walked our dogs and then just made out at the end Then she invited me to a bar with her friends. She didn't know I was sober. I got a root beer with a lemon i…
/r/seduction12/04/22 10:51 PM
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Hey bro Don't text. Let's look at this logically. She had demonstrated she is willing to text you first without hesitation in the past. So by you thinking you need to reach out, is simply the "illusion of action" What you really want is for things to be how they were, so you think taking more and more action will make it so. But it won't. Your instincts are correct. Sit back, do your thing, let it go for now. Like we said, she is able and willing to hit you up whenever she feels like it and we k…
/r/seduction12/04/22 02:21 PM
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Check the username
/r/seduction12/04/22 02:02 PM
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You're doing well analyzing things. Pretty on track I'd recommend you as a man not use any terms of endearment until you're exclusive. She can call you babe all she wants whenever she wants. You use her name or short version nick name. Unless during sex. If a woman is calling you every night, you need to set a time limit. So I mean, of course you want to talk to her but only set aside ~30 min at most. Don't let it get out of control. I've done that, like 3 hour talks. Maybe ONCE, that is ok. But…
/r/seduction12/04/22 02:23 AM
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If you push too much she'll prob just ditch you entirely Just enjoy the time you guys have, make it awesome and maybe down the road SHE might bring up hanging out more But you'll never be able to twist her arm if it's not her idea
/r/seduction11/04/22 10:09 PM
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Along the same lines, I find myself trying to game women who already like me They're in my bed and I'm still thinking like "how do I be mysterious, aloof" whatever. They will sense this, feel cheap and used and ghost you. That is a time to be open, laughing, and together. Not distant and gamey Because despite "seduction," if you want a women to stick around longer than a couple weeks, you'll have to share your self as well without any type of seduction mask That is why the initial work is so imp…
/r/seduction11/04/22 08:11 PM
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It's not even a power move You do not interact with people who treat you like that If she contacts you, simply asks if she'd like to come over again But you do not take her out, you don't meet her, you don't pick her up or anything until she comes over 2-3 times Then you can retry with her Other than that, no contact She's got to come to you if she wants anything
/r/seduction11/04/22 07:16 PM
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I don't think people don't feel nervous per se But here's some whimsical self development speak Confidence comes with competence If it's your first time playing a sport vs you've been doing it for a year or two just by nature you will be more confident And also you got to want it. If you say you want something but some butterflies get in your way then maybe you don't want it as bad as you think
/r/seduction11/04/22 04:48 PM
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I get you bud. I've been getting ready for dates and I've thought man I don't even want to be doing this right now So I only pursue women who've shown high interest in me initially. There are a couple things I do to screen, one being I set dates in person when I first meet them. This eliminates texting games, and most flakes as any girl who give some excuse I don't contact. And if they agree to a date in person, they're going to be way more fun and into you. And probably willing to escalate phys…
/r/seduction11/04/22 04:34 PM
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If a woman reaches out, you assume she wants to see you and you offer a date My date last night resulted from one text of hers Her: how was your meeting yesterday? Me: I'd love to tell you over dinner, how's your evening look Then we set a time and she came over. We didn't text anymore the whole day That's it If you're not going to ask her out then you prob shouldn't be texting her
/r/seduction11/04/22 04:24 PM
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I just skimmed, but a couple ideas I'd offer... First, if you're talking to someone you think is a bimbo as in, you're not interested, then stop. As an attractive man, you're always screening women if they're fit to share your time with. It's a paradigm shift from thinking you need to impress every attractive woman Also, there are some things I didn't like either. But what I've learned is, I'm really just practicing a skill in this case which is intentionally talking to women I find attractive. …
/r/seduction11/04/22 04:13 PM
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I get where you're coming from But until the dude gets over the chick, everything he does will be "in spite of" the one that got away He's doing everything for her But on the same token I didn't throw myself back into seduction and talking to women until I got burned when a chick ghosted me after a couple months
/r/seduction09/04/22 06:40 PM
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I've actually asked out a girl at a donut shop Just do it because the longer you wait the more it looks like you're planning it and building it up because you're scared But just know if she lets you down softly, you can't start treating her all weird in the future. Just go in get your breakfast and leave because her worst fear is being creeped on by a regular The girl turned me down and every time I went there after I just acted like I didn't even know her. In and out be polite but that's it
/r/seduction09/04/22 03:06 PM
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Yeah she probably wouldn't say that shit if she wasn't with her friends That's when you say I'm giving you more time to check out my ass
/r/seduction09/04/22 08:32 AM
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Whenever you decide to move out, consider looking for a place walking distance to where you'd like to go out Easier to pull and to set dates by having the woman park at your place because you can walk to the restaurants/bars
/r/seduction09/04/22 08:07 AM
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Bro just know I enjoy seeing your updates. Inspires me to get out there and try new things. What country you out of
/r/seduction09/04/22 03:09 AM
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Download and read Sex God Method version 2 by Daniel rose It's like 280 pages but they are super short, you can breeze through it in an hour or two
/r/seduction09/04/22 03:00 AM
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Hey brother I've done that too I'm the last person that would go to a large event alone which is funny because I love spending time alone So a couple things that have helped me, maybe will help you At first I stopped trying to talk to women if I went out alone. There was no way I could deal with the anxiety of being out alone and the pressure of talking to women all at first. I just had to get used to going out by myself to enjoy myself. One of the best nights I went out alone I just spent the n…
/r/seduction09/04/22 02:49 AM
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Well damn what a story
/r/seduction08/04/22 08:48 PM
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Good t shirt and nice jeans or chinos Casual shoes I am in gym clothes all day everyday it seems but I wouldn't wear gym shorts or joggers to the bar.
/r/seduction08/04/22 07:56 PM
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Hm yeah I can see that Chick is just short hand, I love women. But I'm not a natural. I have to study and break down all this shit. But I do it because I feel women deserve real, considerate men which I practice being every day. And ultimately I do it for my own life. Some guys don't need a manual to tell them how to be a man. I did and still go back and brush up. Sometimes I fuck up Best regards man, thanks for grabbing me by the shoulders and giving me a shake
/r/seduction08/04/22 02:31 PM
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Idk if I agree with going routes to see a chick intentionally but yes this was the worst part of the interactions yesterday I was just taking my dog to the park and was not trying to talk to any chicks at that moment. I go there almost daily. I had seen her twice in 3 days yesterday so I don't want to be all over her like that. I just went off to the side and played with my dog. Anyway, appreciate your reply. And I'm being way too outcome dependant about this.
/r/seduction08/04/22 02:04 PM
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You're all over the place and want the world dragged down with you Even if all you want is one girl, you'll never be able to keep one as you watch the world burn in your mind
/r/seduction08/04/22 01:35 PM
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Yeah I was trying something new cause I thought it was hot with this other chick But maybe I went too hard with the second text. Should've went for the date instead of 2 escalated texts
/r/seduction08/04/22 09:41 AM
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Right I think I'm over thinking it And I am going for the date on the next volley but I wanted to escalate off the random morning text and the replies are taking a while I'm being impatient. And stupid
/r/seduction08/04/22 09:39 AM
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Dude you're good, she's high interest so your gm text didn't blow it up. Just don't do it again until she's your gf and she's hitting you with texts in the morning Sometimes it's hard but don't treat someone you're dating as your girlfriend. It's really not fair to her. Plus you'll stifle her eventually. Let her choose you. You got this And when you end the date don't say any of that busy talk. Don't talk about the future like that Just say "text me" and let it ride Always leave that invitation …
/r/seduction07/04/22 10:43 PM
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Don't text good morning or anything like that. She's not your gf After this date, just hold back and let her text you Have you kissed her yet? I just say this because if you're already kissing her when you see her then she will def text you after she doesn't hear from you Now, this isn't playing games. Women "fall for you" when they're by themselves thinking about you. They need that time and that space. They talk to their friends about you. They write in their diaries if they got one. They remi…
/r/seduction07/04/22 10:31 PM
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What he's saying is there are certain parameters that are shared in any type of attractive life style You don't got to wear suits but your clothes fit well You don't got to be rich but are you're goal oriented You don't got to be a body builder but you're capable You don't need a penthouse but is your place clean, furnished and ready for sex You can tell men who regularly have women in their lives because their lives accommodate sexual interactions with women
/r/seduction07/04/22 05:41 PM
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Ask her out there's nothing else to do You meet You kissed You texted her or snap chat whatever You talked a bit Now you set the date
/r/seduction07/04/22 05:32 PM
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Women dictate exclusivity If she hasn't brought it up then you're not exclusive All you do is keep driving the fun bus and let her come and go as she pleases Anything on her phone ain't your business But this all applies to you too. Again, you're both single until she brings it up Anyway, sounds like things are going well so gj on dealing with that neediness before it consumed you
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:51 PM
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This is classic too much texting Yeah maybe the energy was high but that's why you should've set the date after a quick banter After she's like I'm great at shaking ass Then you say like I'll be the judge of that Then go in to set the date after she responds Anyway dude, once you're talking to another chick you'll forget all about this but I know for damn sure you won't make the same clown mistake again Positive vibes
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:36 PM
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This is like wanting to start a new hobby but all you do is watch YouTube content about it and live it out in your head You're either lying to yourself about what you want, or are just escaping reality by using dating apps and doing a little texting I kinda have been there but if you aren't going to actually set a date with a chick then get off the apps because you're just getting dopamine high
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:21 PM
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I always think of this meme "Girl smiles at you - Imagine life together" That's who I was
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:03 PM
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Brother, good job on getting kissy action Now people will hate on this: Don't ever text her after the date until the next week when you're going to ask her out again. UNLESS of course she hits you up first She ain't your gf. Don't worry, she made it home safe. Don't worry, if you guys kissed she didn't just forget about you. Don't worry, if she likes you she'll want to see you again. Guys come up with so many reasons to inject themselves into a chicks phone and will defend it to the death Bro, s…
/r/seduction07/04/22 01:44 PM
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Do you guys often blaze together? Sounds like maybe she came over to get high knowing you have weed, so she was just "dealing" with you. I'm not accusing her, I really don't know Anyway, I would've told her well I'm going to HIIT so you can come or I'll see you later Also, another approach which is a bit invested would've been simply to change her mood. Doesn't matter the details, just how she's feeling around you Idk the exact context of your relationship but she basically came over, had her wa…
/r/seduction07/04/22 01:31 PM
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From what you said it sounds like you didn't even talk to her other than getting her #, so honestly unless she thought you were like smoking hot, it's a high flake chance anyway If she's a cute college girl she probably already has plans this weekend. So that's why I'm recommending trying to get her when she's potentially done with her weekend events so you can schedule for next week
/r/seduction07/04/22 05:04 AM
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I'd text her Sunday early evening like 5 or 6, most people are not too busy then so hopefully you'll at least get a response if she's home on her phone
/r/seduction07/04/22 04:51 AM
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Did you text her your name right there? If not it's ok, but I'd recommend that in the future. You don't even got to tell the chick, just when you get her number casually text just your name and don't even mention it Two reasons: one, she has your number so she can hit you up if she wants which is best case Secondly, when you hit her up, you can skip her asking "who is this?" But anyway, think of a place you'd like to take her, or a couple places in one night Then text her "hey what's your schedu…
/r/seduction07/04/22 04:42 AM
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Dude If you're not going to ask her out, don't text her A little perspective as well, when I started with women I had nothing going on. So I was always on my phone, or basically sitting around waiting for a text back But successful people are actually busy. If a chick works full time, and goes to the gym she might not answer for a bit. Plus hot girls get dozens of messages from apps and texts all day. Maybe she's flirting with another dude as well. Maybe she's in school at different hours. Now, …
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:38 AM
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More info needed, what were you not fazed by? She had a kid? Just know with single moms, if you get serious you're going to be in the kids life. So you need to check yourself if you're really trying to do that She's like in a whole different kind of world than a single dude with no kids
/r/seduction07/04/22 03:28 AM
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First of all I get it, you didn't want to miss your chance but consider if that's how you really want to operate your life. Have you heard the concept of play to win vs. play to not lose? This sounded like a "play to not lose" event. You were going in to appease her. I'm just sharing ideas with you. I've done similar things. When I know I'm acting a little needy like that, I take a huge step back and tell myself "I'm going to do this for me and if I never see her again after that's fine. This is…
/r/seduction07/04/22 01:17 AM
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It's all about having fun regardless the girls age but younger 20s will be a bit flakier Unless you're purposely screening for a ltr the most important thing is how a woman of any age feels when she's with you But things kind of change, after a while looks were not the most important thing for me. I still need a pretty and fit chick but I enjoy a similar sense of humor and down to earth types so I consider that first, then looks
/r/seduction06/04/22 07:21 PM
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Yeah just give it some space Talking every day for two months is quite a lot "The quickest way to get someones attention is to remove yours" But this is no guarantee he'll come running back. It's just the healthiest thing to do for both of you If I don't hear from a girl I'll text in about a week or so because I usually prefer the woman to text me After some space you'll be able to get a clearer picture after you or him reach out again. If he hits you up you're good, if it's just more distance w…
/r/seduction06/04/22 04:10 PM
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Bingo thanks for reading
/r/seduction06/04/22 03:41 PM
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This guy fucks
/r/seduction06/04/22 03:33 PM
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Yes read no more Mr nice guy and way of the superior man. Both those books I believe are on YouTube But being a nice guy isn't just how you are with women. It's everything about you. Me personally, I had to look at everything from how I interact with strangers, other men, co workers, bosses, family members, neighbors. I made a decision I want to be an integral and productive man to my community. It started with wanting to get better with women. But I realized I needed to get better with myself, …
/r/seduction06/04/22 03:04 PM
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Hey bro that's awesome getting her to come out. Especially after the first no reply. I would've not texted her again so that's interesting you got her with a meme and she responded. How much time was between the two texts you sent? Also, not pushing her. Let her feel comfortable with you. What do you mean when you say "hit and run"? Thanks
/r/seduction06/04/22 02:41 PM
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That's good. She was into you and thought you been with a lot of chicks. But no one but you knows how the actual energy went. I've raw dogged a chick and thought it was all good and she blew me off. This was after 5 or 6 weeks of seeing each other. But I can tell you how shitty that last date went even though we had sex. So sex is not an indicator that everything is gravy. It's ultimately how you made her feel with you and after you leave. Every other detail falls away when it comes to how a gir…
/r/seduction06/04/22 01:18 PM
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Thanks for breaking things down. I'm naturally an anxious person so I over think everything. Obviously we don't know each other but I've come a long way. A night like this would've been impossible 3 years ago for me. Let alone getting her number and setting a date. I used to have to get a buzz before any date I'd go on. This was my first date since quitting drinking a few months ago. I took a break from meeting girls since it was a trigger. I don't agree about the getting in the back seat thing.…
/r/seduction06/04/22 12:45 PM
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Thanks for reply
/r/seduction06/04/22 09:09 AM
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You forgot to tell her to text you Always end with you saying "text/call me" I'm sorry but just because you had sex, you ain't her man yet. She's still making that decision. Let her pursue. Give her space. The last thing she wants is a dude who gets clingy after sex. Even if that's not you, you'll look that way If you don't hear from her text her a week later to set up the next date. People are talking about "you don't want her to feel used." But listen, if you treat her right, she should be thi…
/r/seduction06/04/22 04:48 AM
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I'm just going to be short She saw your text and ignored it. Don't think anything else happened. So stop thinking about her. Do not give any thought to people who treat you like that. Dude, when was the last time a girl you like texted you and you missed it? Never. If she was digging it, she would've responded. Let it go, learn from the experience But also, don't get mad. Men don't get angry. Women do things. That's ok. If you're choosing to interact with women then, again, just learn from each …
/r/seduction05/04/22 09:55 PM
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Ignore her You're not friends with her If she serves you, treat her like any other waitress Dude I've been in similar situations and you're already flirting with a borderline creep mindset. I'm not trying to call you names but you need to realize that you just asked her out and that's it. You don't know her. She doesn't know you. If you keep showing up and smiling at her and stuff you're going to become a mental burden for her. Have fun with your friends, do what you normally would. But get this…
/r/seduction05/04/22 09:43 PM
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You've already set an expectation: "tomorrow after school" So no more joking back and forth. If you run into her at school say hey, let's go here at this time Or text her that, whatever is more natural for you and her. Once she agrees to the date don't talk to her or text her till you see her on the date. If you keep joking around at this point she's going to know you're a clown and blow you off like any other guy You set a definite date and move on. Be decisive. You're not a game playing chump.
/r/seduction05/04/22 07:41 PM
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Just straight ask her out no context Any effort you're trying to put in is just mental procrastination. There's never going to be that perfect moment like a movie scene Just know if she turns you down you got to ignore her from then on It's normal to ask out cute girls. But it's not normal to think you're friends because you had one interaction Edit: not to bash another comment but never use language like "I see you around a lot" I'm not just talking shit. I've made this very mistake. You want t…
/r/seduction05/04/22 06:21 PM
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I'm not going to bash you because there is a lot of toxic content saying you can pull girls with bfs or whatever which I guess is true. But it shows you're a scumbag and if you have a small community, word will get around. Not everyone lives in a million person populated city You say "oh when you see him later make sure to tell him he's a lucky guy" You're confident, you're flirty and you are socially competent. You're not afraid to compliment your "competition" let's say, while still giving an …
/r/seduction05/04/22 05:51 PM
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I'm in my 30s and I date chicks from 20 to 45 That girl I mentioned about the texting was 24 I had an inside joke with another girl about me texting her "ttyl" and it became a little thing for us, she was 20 No one asked, but everyone should be aiming to set first dates in person. Really, all my best experiences are with women who I scheduled with in person. And you can tell the flakes when you ask what their schedule is like and they're "unsure" or "things are crazy right now". I just text my n…
/r/seduction05/04/22 05:44 PM
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Never text goodnight comes from when I was a needy boi and I texted this chick I was dating "gn" like I was her bf or something and I never heard from her again I basically never use emojis I should've left it out the post but if I ever do it's just that one face. It was explained to me when you use emojis the chick subconsciously pictures you making that face so you absolutely don't use goofy shit at the very least
/r/seduction05/04/22 05:16 PM
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No I meet every woman in person and exchange phone numbers I had one chick tell me "you're the only person I regular text other than my mom." Good. I text to set up dates and that's it unless they're becoming more exclusive with me I might get more affectionate I use old school emojis, basically only :p Minimal effort into anything on the phone. Everything is designed to meet in person. Then we can laugh at the dudes in her dms while she's in my bed If they like you, they will meet you
/r/seduction05/04/22 03:43 AM
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My experience was, yes I felt very calculated and robotic at first. I was trying new things, and trying to manipulate results. It reminds me of something like when I learned how to throw with my left hand. It felt weird, contrived. I got good results, but I also got not good results. One chick on a date even said "all you're doing is negging me." That's when I realized, I was treating women like formulas, I do something and expect a result. But it's not like that. What really I was wanting to do…
/r/seduction05/04/22 03:25 AM
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Yeah you're already setting this texting as a foundation of your interactions together. If it continues she will get bored of the texting rush and go cold I get what you're saying about rewarding her so I'd wait till the evening once you're done with your busy work then just reply with something like "I love seeing your texts" just something straight up but open ended But just focus on setting those dates man and seeing her in person You can't always be available to text
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:54 PM
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Thanks for your reply. I talked about it in another response just a sec ago But I've had it where one friend was over protective and talked the girl out of leaving with me Also, I've had it where the female friends just shit test the fuck out of me which is fine but I can't slip up Essentially I'm playing in her world and her frame But yes, there is the chance everything could go just right and I get her alone but it's at least 50/50 And I don't mean alone just to fuck her but I'm trying to get …
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:37 PM
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I am screening the girls I date for long term options. So potentially I'd like more than just to hook up with this chick but also group dates I know are walking into the odds stacked against me, such as: She's less likely to be affectionate in front of friends I'd have to win her friends over It's harder to get her to come over afterword or get her to leave her friends to kiss etc All it takes is one friend to second guess me and it's over Idk, I've had a few good group situations but plenty bad…
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:31 PM
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Well by the time you get to that point in the early dating stage, things are probably already too far gone. Ideally, the chick should be hitting you up excitedly and you just set a time to see her until she asks to be your gf. Yes, so your instincts are right. She was slowly losing interest and by texting her and asking her things like that it made things a little worse. The vibe was probably too much like a relationship when she was trying to be loose and have fun. I'd just stop contacting her …
/r/seduction04/04/22 09:45 PM
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If you feel you "need" a gf you'll never get one Not to sound whimsical or anything but it seems you have a lot of work to do on yourself. Stop and ask "would you date you?" and be honest. If the answer is no then why would you expect a chick to stick around? You got some work to do and it starts today Best regards
/r/seduction04/04/22 08:12 PM
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dog park
/r/seduction04/04/22 08:09 PM
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Ask her out? If she's out with you, you've already showed intent. I think there's a lot of emphasis on having to do flashy pick up things but the truth is 99% of guys don't ask women out in person anymore. So if you're talking to a girl and she's cute enough, invite her to dinner/drinks or maybe you got plans on the weekend like a hike. Set the date in person. If she's reluctant then just withdraw the offer and be glad you saved yourself having to deal with a flake. I may still exchange numbers …
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:10 PM
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Give it two weeks then send a text asking "when are you free for dinner" just very open ended. Don't expect a response it's really up to her if her feelings come back around so all you can do is give her that space If she turns that down then just let her go Really what you're looking for is her to contact you first during this time
/r/seduction04/04/22 04:25 PM
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Let her do 100% of the calling and texting and you just set the dates and pilot the fun bus. Seriously, just let her reach out and fall in love on her own. Take the fact you're reaching out for advice as a bit of a notice that you may be acting out of fear of losing her and this will show up in your actions But ask yourself, why wouldn't beautiful women like you? "When you get to the endzone, act like you've been there before"
/r/seduction30/03/22 06:57 PM
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It's like that Akon song "Noticing you noticing me" Just say hi would you like to dance? Gauge her vibe, maybe she won't dance but wants to talk
/r/seduction31/07/21 08:10 PM
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Awesome dude It's always about you having fun Going out alone with too many expectations will ruin your vibe You got that exposure, experience and you're a couple steps closer to where you want to be
/r/seduction31/07/21 05:51 PM
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Why do you feel you can't you ask her out or make your move?
/r/seduction31/07/21 12:47 PM
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Guys and girls are not friends, maybe one of them thinks they are Dude you'll hear guys say I have plenty of female friends They're either banging them, have banged them, want to bang them, would bang them, might get drunk enough and bang them, or she's ugly and is friendzoned That's not friends. They're orbiters
/r/seduction31/07/21 06:42 AM
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Lower your standards This sounds maybe negative in some way, but it's not A lot of guys have unrealistic standards. I'll just leave it there I've learned to be attracted to women who are not necessarily 9-10s, but are hot enough to mingle with and have sex. If you wait around for that 9 who has interest in you, you'll be waiting months or years between each date Also this allows you to learn about all different types of women, allows more time with high interest women which makes it easier, and …
/r/seduction31/07/21 06:26 AM
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Interesting insight She was 12 years older than me so yeah I think she just wanted to get fucked at the end of the day which is not what I'm looking for But I did black out at the end so I may have been a dick at some point
/r/seduction29/07/21 02:58 AM
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Thanks man. I've done the insta date thing at the park but typically when a girl has a blanket out with some belongings, she's pretty posted. I just sit with them in that case. Yeah, the drinking is bad and I know it's linked to my deep rooted insecurities. Definitely got to work on it cause I've made so much progress that it's become a bottle neck opposed to an aide at this point.
/r/seduction29/07/21 01:53 AM
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While I see your username a lot and typically value your input, no I did not fail. I can see what you mean but the thing is I don't care about what happened and I'm proud of my progress. A year ago I would've been devastated. But now I know there's always another one and I'm on the right path of success. Just need to tighten things up. Thanks for reading
/r/seduction29/07/21 01:19 AM
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Dude you nailed it Exactly where I'm fucking up and why I wrote the post
/r/seduction20/07/21 12:44 AM
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I like women who ask me out, so skip the text banter and just say hey would you like to meet me at this place for coffee/drinks whatever Just cut right through the bullshit like a hot knife with a great ass
/r/seduction19/07/21 02:41 AM
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... the college? I live in a college town. They're everywhere. I'll admit I meet a lot of girls at the park with my dog but I could only imagine if I actually went to the university. Take a walk through down town Go to the park Yes, the bars if you want that drunk chick vibe
/r/seduction19/07/21 02:22 AM
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No Your interactions are always man to woman I've had female "friends" at work and all it did was make me get less focused on my goals and act weak Even if they're ugly and you act like a goofball with them they'll think you're a bitch Just keep focusing on your path to becoming an attractive man and you will learn through your mistakes all you need to know about yourself and women
/r/seduction14/07/21 03:27 AM
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Damn bro I need some of your big dick energy I've been a bit in my head from a couple bad dates last week
/r/seduction12/07/21 02:39 AM
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Bro you handled it well. Also, going to a bar is not a shitty date. But I think maybe you realized, take a day and scope out places you'd like to go for a date so you know exactly how to get there and the distances. Gj A little side note, after she asked you if you wanted to kiss cause she's sick I would've just went in hard instead of ask but she likes you it's all good brother
/r/seduction12/07/21 02:35 AM
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Your place should always be clean and ready for guests The state of your living space reflects your inner state If you do that last minute mad rush to clean up your spot before a date that says a lot about you
/r/seduction11/07/21 10:11 PM
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I asked a waitress out at a place I go almost every day She turned me down I just treated her like any other waitress after that. Smile and say hi, place my order. that's it like nothing happened I mean we're not friends If she wanted to bring it up again she could've She no longer works there
/r/seduction11/07/21 09:49 PM
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Just leave her on read. You're not being a dick There's nothing to say after she says "tonight's not a good time" That way you can still hit her up another time without double texting or looking too needy Cause either way if she's going to hit you up she'll still do it without you saying "lmk"
/r/seduction11/07/21 09:41 PM
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I've never had luck with saying "lmk when you're free" I have removed that from my verbiage because of the lack of success Cause then if they don't hit you up you look weak hitting them up again
/r/seduction11/07/21 09:33 PM
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It's when two people meet in public and one of them traditionally goes on Craigslist and posts about the interaction and that they'd like to meet again in hopes the other person sees it and contacts them You can go to Craigslist and there's actually a section dedicated to these listings
/r/seduction11/07/21 09:07 PM
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I'd replace "luck" with timing Yes, we take the lead, but to ignore the fact that initially we work off the womans' availability or current willingness I'd think is ignorant Yeah, if she can't meet up we move on But who knows, a month later her schedule could be completely different and she's more open to going out but you're not around anymore Can't take this stuff personal I ran into a girl who flaked on me a couple months ago yesterday. She was with a dude shorter than me and looked like he's…
/r/seduction11/07/21 08:00 PM
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You do not seduce in anyway over the phone Logistics only assuming you met her in person If you know her schedule then just suggest a place, date and time and ask her if that works If not then a brief hey what's up I'm curious your schedule this week to get together for (suggest activity i.e. drink, walk, coffee), give me a call back and I'll set it up. Talk to you soon
/r/seduction11/07/21 07:44 PM
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Change happens when circumstances become unbearable Seems you're not quite there yet Because you're right, no one is coming to save you
/r/seduction11/07/21 07:34 PM
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Be yourself
/r/seduction11/07/21 07:29 PM
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I mean I see a couple split ends but it's whatever. Want to make out?
/r/seduction11/07/21 03:36 AM
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You're assuming it's random Plus I admitted maybe she won't kiss you Also that's not the point I know for a fact you'd remember a guy who tried to kiss you in a calibrated way over a guy who said your hair looks nice and asked for your number
/r/seduction11/07/21 03:29 AM
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How have your date been ending? Asking her to come over? Walking to the car and going for the kiss? Another simple tip is to always go for the kiss. Even if you fucked up escalating on the date there'll be no guessing if you try to kiss her.
/r/seduction11/07/21 03:07 AM
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A simple tip is to never ask about a next date on the current date
/r/seduction11/07/21 02:17 AM
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I once had a girl post a "missed connections" type thread on the local Facebook city classifieds about me. My coworker showed it to me cause your boy don't have social I was interested but she wasn't my type But like damn
/r/seduction11/07/21 01:35 AM
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Honestly... Not bad
/r/seduction11/07/21 12:52 AM
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Listen. I know exactly what you mean about the creep thing. But you have to cut yourself some slack and realize you're a guy on a self development journey. Dude I see a chick every fucking day at the gym that blew me off and gives me those creep vibes. One chick at the park did today too. At first it really got to me. But on the other hand it gives me invaluable feedback on how to improve. With all due respect, fuck them. Because all I can do is my best. I just literally ignore them and have lea…
/r/seduction11/07/21 12:35 AM
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Yeah Also, I feel you. It's exhausting for sure. I realized the coaches on youtube have all the time in the world to approach women and deal with it cause it's their job, and typically they travel a lot or live in a huge city. I live in a smallish town and just today at the park I encountered two girls who've blown me off or I fucked up with. This happens a lot actually. So I took a big step back to recalibrate my approach and started focusing on myself with confidence that improving myself will…
/r/seduction11/07/21 12:00 AM
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Maybe trite but if you're in a girl's field of view and she fixes her hair it's at least 50/50 Another thing is taking out their phone. They get a little self conscious and boom the phone comes out I only go after interested women based on body language but even so it's not a guarantee
/r/seduction10/07/21 10:46 PM
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It's projection Most people settle in life When you go after what you want even friends and family will try to drag you down into their practical and cookie cutter world view In life, you're alone You create your own path all the while people are nipping at your heels to conform When you break the mold, others are subconsciously challenged to do so themselves and they'll unwittingly try to save face by bashing you
/r/seduction10/07/21 10:33 PM
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In addition to other comments, once you talk to a hot chick that is weird, boring or bat shit crazy you'll lose much of the intimidation Also reflect on Is it that they're super hot Or are you feeling you're not hot enough To help get to the bottom of the insecurity
/r/seduction10/07/21 09:58 PM
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It's the rule you use to know you should ditch her
/r/seduction10/07/21 09:20 PM
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That's good shit bro I've gone out a couple times alone but if my goal is to only meet women while doing so I get bored quick When I've gone out just to have a good time I've had better experiences with nothing different than the mentality
/r/seduction10/07/21 09:18 PM
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Exactly Experience compounds
/r/seduction10/07/21 09:01 PM
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Corey Wayne
/r/seduction10/07/21 07:26 PM
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My texts are very short and to the point and I don't use emojis or crack jokes over text But I use a lot of abbreviations and minimal punctuation Things like Lmk Np Hmu If it's just one sentence you're sending, don't use a period. I rarely ever use question marks even if it's a question. Nothing long enough that needs commas. No exclamation points You want your texts to look like you put in the least amount of effort to get your point across as opposed to a formatted essay. But always spell ever…
/r/seduction10/07/21 06:58 PM
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I would not cuddle and watch a show. That's boyfriend/girlfriend stuff, not casual dating. When you take a girl home she KNOWS what the deal is. And she's probably thinking about it too. Just giving up and cuddling is a kinda like a passive weak vibe. If she's not down after you've tried to escalate a few more times it's time to respectfully end the date. This is not to say you kick out girls because they don't fuck. But it's obvious it's what you're looking for and if you're taking girls home t…
/r/seduction10/07/21 06:43 PM
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Act like a friend, get treated like a friend. From the start, never treat her as a friend. For the girls that you already know as friends, the quickest way to get someone's attention is to remove yours. If you start just focusing on chilling with the bros there and almost ignoring the girls I promise their interest will grow. If they notice you're acting different they may start shit testing you but this is good. They're chasing your attention.
/r/seduction10/07/21 06:06 PM
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College town
/r/seduction10/07/21 01:10 PM
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Looks like two girls texting each other Not trying to diss you. But tighten it up.
/r/seduction10/07/21 01:03 PM
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No, say hi to everyone, pussy Also my uh buddy wants to know if your profile pic is really you
/r/seduction10/07/21 02:30 AM
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Bro get out there I'm rooting for you Theory only goes so far till it becomes infotainment and procrastination
/r/seduction10/07/21 01:44 AM
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It's called breaking rapport The easiest way is to make an observational statement about the other person Just yesterday I was talking to a girl about what she does, and it was an athletic type of job I noticed she typically wears running type clothes and I said "yeah, I could tell you were the athletic type by the way you're dressed" So it went from interview to now I put her on the spot a little and that changes the whole dynamic. Cause it went from back and forth questions to a statement abou…
/r/seduction10/07/21 12:21 AM
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Gj bro Get after it
/r/seduction09/07/21 04:05 AM
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I just moved to a new city and started over too Get your day to day in order Your place is furnished, your job is steady, you know your way around a bit. You need to be competent and convey competence. Then you need to think about your social life. Why do you think most women you meet are taken? I mean, if you meet a 20 yo she's probably not taken. You're going to need to be used to doing things alone. Grocery shopping, coffee shops, walks in the park, gym. In the new city you'll be alone at fir…
/r/seduction09/07/21 03:59 AM
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Bro I see your username name here a lot you got to get out there. Hmu if you got some questions. Too much research and theory without action will contaminate you.
/r/seduction09/07/21 03:47 AM
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Good points and I can tell you've "been there" You're right, I was focusing on her successes and losing sight of my personal killer instinct This was the reply I was looking for, thanks
/r/seduction09/07/21 03:41 AM
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I think this is different than beta bucks but I do feel you and I realize I'm projecting my insecurity onto the situation She already likes me and I don't got to change anything
/r/seduction09/07/21 03:35 AM
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Homie I got you but this is organic I see her at a mutual spot a lot and she gravitates around me, sits by me, faces me, mirrors me. Don't want to let this one slide But you're right I'm caring way too much
/r/seduction09/07/21 02:36 AM
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Thank you internet
/r/seduction09/07/21 02:04 AM
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Go to the park with a blanket and a book
/r/seduction09/07/21 01:43 AM
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Dude her interest was really high and I don't think she hates you so you prob still got a shot Give it a week, then ask her out for someone simple that you like. About the setting dates thing, never do it on the current date. After you kiss her or whatever happens just give her a look and say something ambiguous like "I had fun" or "see you soon" or even "call/text me" to invite her to contact first Thing of a good tv show.. there's always something that leaves you wanting more
/r/seduction09/07/21 01:27 AM
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Yes give space Never ask about a second date on the first one. It will be perceived as clingy and smothering She def had high interest but she needs space for that attraction to grow again
/r/seduction08/07/21 11:19 PM
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This is subtle but when asking "Are you free" vs "when are you free" You are forcing them into yes or no compliance and if they are at all unsure they will give you a no. "Are you free to go out" is almost the same question as "do you like me?" in their minds Asking "when are you free" allows them to contemplate what would be more convenient for them, gives them room to think and does not demand yes or no compliance Also, "when are you free" displays subtle confidence because you're assuming att…
/r/seduction08/07/21 08:54 PM
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Awesome dude Just don't become her texting pen pal and you're good
/r/seduction08/07/21 06:35 PM
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Dude that is some value you can share with her I'd be real and tell her I'm going on vacation but I'll hit you up when I'm back I'd send her maybe one cool picture of your vacation spot while you're away but don't keep chatting with her Then hit her up when you're back in town
/r/seduction08/07/21 06:33 PM
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Yes you'll reap it eventually But it seems like you're at least trying introspection Dude I highly recommend researching Carl Jung's work on anima, and all his other topics, to get a better grasp on your projections
/r/seduction08/07/21 04:16 PM
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Just be yourself bro
/r/seduction08/07/21 04:07 PM
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Is this for real? Vibrating at remarkably complimentary frequencies? Tell him that's the gayest thing you've ever heard
/r/seduction08/07/21 01:04 PM
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Cold approach is all about the initial interactions You want to romantically push the interactions as far as you can Maybe post about how the interaction went and ask for feedback. I think it'll help you more
/r/seduction07/07/21 04:13 PM
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Maybe cliche, but quitting porn and masturbation helped me get my anxieties under control Cause even if you bust fast, you're ready to go again in like 15 minutes And just like anything, the more exposure you get the less fearful you'll be And also understanding that good sex for women is 70% a mental thing for them unlike men in a general sense
/r/seduction06/07/21 06:49 PM
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Self development > my dog > women Talking to women is def something I'm practicing right now so it's high up
/r/seduction06/07/21 06:44 PM
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"Celebrities don't date their fans" Treat them like a celeb Get treated like a fan
/r/seduction06/07/21 06:41 PM
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"ok see you at 10" Just go While the whole thing is def weird, asking something like "do you want me to go or not" is not optimal But you're still good dude. It's really up to you if you want to make that drive. I think this is your second post about this chick, so just go and get your answers about her
/r/seduction06/07/21 06:37 PM
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You want to make a move cause your ego thinks you fucked up. I've literally done the same thing. Any move you make to "fix it" will make it worse. You have to accept she may never come back around. She might. But you have to get your mindset right. I had a girl come back after 3 mo no contact. Like you I replied "dry" I felt bad, then I hit her up the next day basically to apologize and she blew me off again. I learned...
/r/seduction06/07/21 03:20 AM
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Yeah she testing the waters if you are going to chase her and ask her out Leave it hanging till she hits you up again
/r/seduction06/07/21 02:13 AM
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Now that's a shit test
/r/seduction06/07/21 01:12 AM
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Like others said women won't just tell you no Consider waiting 10 days or so then asking her to the park
/r/seduction05/07/21 09:42 PM
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Yes. Seduction is merely human interaction. And concepts of value translate to men, women and yourself.
/r/seduction05/07/21 09:29 PM
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Once a week. If it's getting hot and heavy, take a week off. There's a subconscious "availability trap" You guys can be hanging out every weekend, doing everything right, then she pulls away She may realize, damn what was this dude doing with his free time before he met me? This is all subconscious You fell into the trap. She can hit you up and you're always down. Always move slower than her. Even if she's hitting you up, you got to take a step back Always. Slower. Than. Her.
/r/seduction05/07/21 08:55 PM
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I don't look at her if I'm not going to approach
/r/seduction05/07/21 04:59 PM
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I get it's a shit test But is a disrespectful one Pass it and continue screening her
/r/seduction04/07/21 10:04 PM
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Yes
/r/seduction04/07/21 07:23 PM
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After some back and forth with the escalation like you did I would've brought it up with her because there was some concern she was dealing with in her mind that needed to be addressed. Whatever it was, she didn't feel relieved of it.
/r/seduction04/07/21 10:39 AM
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Fucking up with women Having bad dates and knowing I can't go back in time and fix it Getting blown off or ghosted and realizing there is nothing I can say to change her mind Getting rejected by someone I see everyday and just forgetting about it instead of feeling weird or awkward cause then it is weird and awkward Understanding mistakes happen and I'd rather have someone not like me than to not respect me And no matter how hard I have tried - realizing I have ZERO control over what others thin…
/r/seduction04/07/21 10:03 AM
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I brought food
/r/seduction04/07/21 09:14 AM
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I usually open with showing girls my onlyfans account
/r/seduction04/07/21 03:59 AM
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Bro it's another day that ends with y Get after it
/r/seduction04/07/21 03:57 AM
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Good There comes a time when you just got to go out there and not need the validation from here which is what I'm giving you Be your best self
/r/seduction04/07/21 03:55 AM
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If you don't fucking kiss her I'm flying there and doing it for you Holla at your boy
/r/seduction04/07/21 03:41 AM
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Take it slow at the gym Just literally introduce yourself and ask her name Feel the vibe from there but if it's negative you can bail and you're just a social guy who introduced himself If it's positive then do your thing
/r/seduction03/07/21 09:46 PM
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Feels good to mingle with high interest women Though you have to screen out the stage 5 clingers Cause they will blur the lines But like you said it's good to hold out for the ones worth your time Any guy ought be able to walk away from any girl at any time
/r/seduction03/07/21 06:24 PM
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Glad you knew what I meant cause autocorrect fucked me Yeah dude I meet a lot of single girls with dogs cause I have one. I always treat their dogs like my own - super confident, hug and pet them even kiss their heads. If the dog approves of you there's a high chance she'll be at least somewhat attracted. Dogs are good at screening negative energy and the owners know that Also you'll see over time, if there's never a dude walking the dog she's probably single
/r/seduction03/07/21 05:09 PM
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Bro the dog makes it easy Just say hi what's his name and go for petting the dog. Good confident energy and eye contact and you're good If the dog likes you, you already got some points Then you got to show intent to her, so after petting the dog for a sec, stand back up and let her know she's cute
/r/seduction03/07/21 04:54 PM
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It's not about fat Shoulder to waist ratio is proven to be visually attractive to women
/r/seduction02/07/21 07:51 PM
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I think a lot of guys gravitate toward Todd cause he plays the introvert shy guy. Then he makes infotainment videos so guys spend time binge watching But honestly when I watch his infield I just see things that I'd never do. Not to say he's wrong but rather everyone is different and I don't resonate with his vibes I mean the one thing to take away from Todd is if he can talk to women anyone can
/r/seduction02/07/21 04:44 PM
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That's great man. There's no other way to have gotten that experience and sharpen you I remember when I first got numbers my hands would shake and I'd damn near forget how to use my phone to create a contact Now it's habit
/r/seduction02/07/21 04:15 PM
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For long term success it'd be wise to be the type of guy whose apartment is always clean. Not for them. For you.
/r/seduction30/06/21 11:38 PM
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You're good bro not hating Just meant the texting. If you lose contact with her don't hit her up that same night unless you made definite plans to meet up later Also like others have said she could've just been an attention seeker
/r/seduction30/06/21 11:09 PM
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She liked you when you were just doing your thing She didn't like you when your thing became her If you're out with the boys, get her number and continue being out with the boys You get her number to hit her up at a later date when you're not so busy doing your thing
/r/seduction30/06/21 09:13 PM
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Stop texting and live life You'll have things to talk about
/r/seduction30/06/21 09:08 PM
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This post is on the right track. Don't agree with everything but no one asked. Many guys tend to fall into the "alpha" trap when they start their journey. They are thinking they need to become someone different than to cultivate their own identity. They think they can manipulate attraction like pulling strings. They are thinking about push pull, or teasing or being stoic. They're learning "techniques" which are easy to market and sell by gurus. Really what is missing is understanding of female n…
/r/seduction30/06/21 08:17 PM
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Thanks man. I'll call her a 10. Learned a lot about myself through the interaction. Still some self doubt to get over Reminds me of a meme where a guy and girl are banging and he's thinking "I wonder if she likes me"
/r/seduction30/06/21 12:06 PM
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Thanks for positive vibes
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:37 AM
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You're limiting yourself If your instinctual brain signals she's attractive in someway just do it. Personality can make a 6-7 bump up to an 8 for both men and women. Looks are important but these chicks should be someone you genuinely want to spend time with and they won't all be 9s physically To answer your question, yes I initiate every girl that sparks my mind to be cute in any way even if they're not my "type" You just learn so much more about women talking to different kinds
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:36 AM
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Get fucked around enough times till you get some discretion. It's all experience to your personal journey. Sometimes you got to get burned to learn not to touch the fire. It's not inherently a bad thing.
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:27 AM
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Don't overthink it. Tell her she's cute then bounce off of her reaction and take back the lead
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:21 AM
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"The one asking the questions controls the conversation" Ultimately you want to get her talking more than you though but it always is the man's job to initiate and lead Sometimes, it may seem like you're talking more than her but when the conversation is averaged out, it ought be her talking more than you
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:19 AM
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Yeah. But for advice to your post, cold approaching is ALL ABOUT THE INITIAL INTERACTION You will not text attraction into her after the fact So focus on improving your initial interactions. Treat them like 5 minute dates Just having a platonic conversation and then getting her number is not enough. That's what I used to do and yeah you get flaked on a lot Essentially you want them wanting more of you and those few minutes are all you got
/r/seduction28/06/21 01:28 AM
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This Took me a long time to realize guys with high body counts are banging out 5s and 6s most of the time
/r/seduction28/06/21 12:29 AM
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For one, yeah I do and it's a problem. But I meant how you're so open about talking to ugly girls and banging out 5s. Most guys try to play things up like they only fuck with 9s I meant everything as a compliment
/r/seduction27/06/21 11:16 PM
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Holy shit I wish to be as casual as you are about this stuff Dude I laughed so hard at this but in a good way But like others have said, she had something you wanted and she knew it. Typically all modern women have inflated egos especially if they're doing online dating
/r/seduction27/06/21 11:10 PM
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Interesting comment. I don't agree in playing games but when a man is inexperienced it seems like that because what they are truly learning is female nature and how to interact in such an environment. Many guys want to blow up a girl they meet like they're best friends cause they had a good conversation. Then they don't understand why she backs away. Then he reads some article or watches a video telling him to not text her till 3 hours later or something. It feels weird, like a game. In reality …
/r/seduction27/06/21 10:44 PM
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This is not an insult... You care way too much. Again, I'm not just giving you shit. I was/am the same. It comes through in your actions and words. You cannot hide your true self. How am I getting through it? Getting played like you did over and over again until I learned and the change becomes internal and authentic. Then you will encounter the next learning curve. You will become jaded and a bit of a dick to women and probably fuck things up that way too. Over correction. And after more experi…
/r/seduction27/06/21 03:14 AM
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Would've left the text on delivered but I mean you did fine Don't hit her up again
/r/seduction27/06/21 03:07 AM
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I think you're doing great Maybe to save time you can tell them they're cute right away I used to do the "conversation first" thing but there were times I wasted like 20 minutes of my life because it was a rejection anyway. They know if they like you or not in the first few seconds. No point in hiding your intent. Then you get to have a more flirty conversation if you've already told her she's cute. Also I think letting them know they can reject you is unnecessary. They will anyway. But do your …
/r/seduction27/06/21 02:25 AM
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If a girl says maybe you tell her "let's do it another time when you're more sure of your schedule" She'll either make the date or just say ok but either way you get your certain answer You don't sit around for maybe Not texting was ok, it was better than like begging or something
/r/seduction27/06/21 02:18 AM
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Confident body language and eye contact, then lean in and yell "you're cute" into her ear
/r/seduction27/06/21 01:51 AM
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Maybe you're putting "the approach" on a pedestal like it's something more than it is I had someone break it down for me that it is nothing more than being social. You're just introducing yourself to another human and having an interaction... You just happen to be sexually attracted to this human
/r/seduction27/06/21 01:48 AM
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I get what you're saying. Maybe if I knew her better but honestly we're basically strangers so I don't think there's enough emotional connection to reach out and try to swing things around Chalking it up to experience and just trying to take away positives Thanks for the good vibes
/r/seduction27/06/21 01:39 AM
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Dude if you still got feelings like that for the ex just stay away or you'll get burned again Also congrats on the date despite how lazy you said you're being
/r/seduction26/06/21 10:14 PM
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Humor is a masculine trait which demonstrates social intelligence. But one can take it too far. The drunk guy at a party might be funny but he probably isn't getting laid You want to be witty and charming like a James Bond character, not over the top like a comedian or a clown
/r/seduction26/06/21 09:47 PM
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What do you mean? Genuinely curious. When she said that I got the vibe she's used to stringing men along or always getting her way or both
/r/seduction26/06/21 09:11 PM
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Awesome brother Glad you had a good night and learned stuff about yourself
/r/seduction26/06/21 08:43 PM
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Appreciate the input, I did do many things wrong but I'm surprised the feedback about people not caring about being late. I understand it can seem trivial but it is important to me. If she were getting ready for me then great, but on the same token I had to get ready as well, clean my whole apartment and take my dog out in the two hours from work to the date and I was 10 minutes early plus I walked in the rain to get there, granted a 5 minute walk. While I do feel like a jerk, I know I'm still l…
/r/seduction26/06/21 06:34 PM
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Appreciate you big time If I'm honest, I've been hurt too many times which created the dick that I am but I'm learning I need to tone it down
/r/seduction26/06/21 03:42 PM
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Our knees were touching, her body language was toward me, I touched her arm once or twice
/r/seduction26/06/21 03:39 PM
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Thanks for not just flaming me, I'll edit the post with more info
/r/seduction26/06/21 01:51 PM
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Realize you need practice Also, a quote: "Men with impossible standards have the lowest self esteem" Was true about myself. I had to drop my ego and I'm a lot happier overall. Also when you talk to girls a little bit less your type you don't care if you fuck up so it's easier to practice and get used to generally interacting with women And who knows you might meet someone you never knew you would've liked
/r/seduction26/06/21 12:21 AM
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Sry bro I thought this was another thread Hit her up Sunday afternoon and see when she's free next week
/r/seduction24/06/21 01:53 AM
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Hit her up Wednesday and get her availability to set a date over the weekend or the next week
/r/seduction24/06/21 01:46 AM
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Play her out in a park so you can go for a walk afterward and make it a whole date
/r/seduction22/06/21 09:18 AM
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To clarify, the daytime dates have been leading to sex afterward? I've felt the same, that girls are more likely to turn down an evening date. I meet a lot of girls around 20 in a college town, and they just don't seem so down for evening dates, at least at first.
/r/seduction22/06/21 02:53 AM
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There will come a point where you say fuck it and just start telling girls they're cute because you're sick of the game Then you know you've made it
/r/seduction22/06/21 02:31 AM
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Word. Yeah let it go dead then just hit her up for her availability next week to set the date. Good luck with everything
/r/seduction21/06/21 09:48 PM
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Curious, did you already set a specific time and place for coffee?
/r/seduction21/06/21 09:38 PM
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Same boat If these are cold approaches, you ought focus on a more engaging and investing initial interaction for her Texting is the worse for building attraction, unless it's from tinder or whatever which is totally different. Cold approach is ALL about the first interaction. I'd focus your energies on that. Then text for logistics Again, don't get it twisted, when people talk about text game, it's usually from dating apps. Took me a while to notice that Edit: to add more about the interactions,…
/r/seduction21/06/21 09:26 PM
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Please don't take this the wrong way But it's the woman who chooses exclusivity with the man If you're putting out serious relationship vibes, she is probably feeling smothered and trapped, thus backing away. "It's not working out" is a nice way of saying that It's ok to want that, but as a man, you do not bring it up. Your job is to be an awesome guy for her to pursue and decide for herself that she wants to be exclusive with you She WILL bring it up as long as you're doing your part Your attit…
/r/seduction21/06/21 09:21 PM
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Acknowledge you're projecting a fantasy onto her Do a pro/con list to get some clarity And know she'd respect you for being able to walk away
/r/seduction21/06/21 09:14 PM
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...as I'm smoking a cigarette while trying to quit...
/r/seduction21/06/21 09:11 PM
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Bro if you're feeling that weird about it, try somewhere different I think you're putting too much thought into it probably creating anxiety
/r/seduction21/06/21 09:09 PM
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"I'm usually pretty busy, but you seem interesting. What's your number?"
/r/seduction21/06/21 08:30 PM
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Bro good job, don't listen to people saying don't talk to girls you meet in public. But one thing I noticed, don't text too much. Focus on setting up the first date now that you got her to respond Don't text her good morning, good night or anything like that
/r/seduction21/06/21 08:23 PM
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Yeah it's good to evaluate everything and what you could improve but, from experience, the best thing you can do is just let the time pass and think about it with a fresh state of mind in a couple weeks. A lot of emotions are swirling right now, not a recipe for success. You're the man. You're awesome. Hot women come and go. Just think about how you can be great today. Best regards
/r/seduction21/06/21 01:59 PM
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Yeah I'd wait two weeks on that one. When you said you're free any night she is, you conveyed your time is not valuable. I've done that same thing thinking I was making it easy for her. But it's not a good move. You put all the power into her hands and she blew you off, which happened to me. It looks weak. Wait a couple weeks, let all this settle in both your minds. She's not going to forget you. Also this gives her space to possibly contact you. Don't get caught up on that though. Just go about…
/r/seduction21/06/21 01:01 PM
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Def not a couple days Wait between a week and two, hit them up on a Sunday early evening Forget about things like "while you're still fresh in their minds" it'll only drive you crazy trying to predict things you'll never know anyway If she liked you she will still like you. Life will be easier to think of it that way, plus it's true
/r/seduction21/06/21 12:36 PM
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I think the thing is many people simply date within their social circles while guys into game are constantly building things from the ground up with women A perfect combo would obviously be both but I've realized I don't have a social circle which is a huge area of improvement for my life. So when I fuck up with a girl it's very impactful maybe how you're experiencing, because I put in so much damn work
/r/seduction21/06/21 12:24 PM
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Think you're pushing the ceiling up with the crown of your head. Vacuum in your stomach slightly to support your core. Pretend you're taking up as much width as possible with your shoulders and lats. Head to ceiling, tummy tight, shoulders wide Also work out so this occurs more naturally because if you have tight pecs, weak traps and rhomboids, weak core, stretched lats (all a result from slumping) it'll never work
/r/seduction21/06/21 12:11 PM
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First ditch porn Then ask what would be different if you had sex say one time and it was shitty... You're technically not a virgin but I bet you'd still have the same anxieties. So it's not the virgin thing I think. Sounds like you're putting sex on a pedestal and creating a limiting belief around it
/r/seduction21/06/21 04:01 AM
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Like nothing happened. Your life is too awesome to notice she was gone. Your only job is to be a cool guy she'd like to spend time with Then tell her to hit you up if you saw her in person If she's texting you or whatever, set up a date Let her initiate that first interaction
/r/seduction21/06/21 03:44 AM
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This is true But also, you cannot fuck up when she comes around to apologize by being a dick I know this first hand Feels bad
/r/seduction21/06/21 03:38 AM
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Halo effect They assume only good things about him And obviously he's doing enough to not fuck things up to get the lay
/r/seduction21/06/21 03:35 AM
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I'd go with setting up the date in person (unless you're on a date). Play it off like you're busy, hopefully you are, check your calendar on your phone and plug in a date with her. If she flakes, she would've flaked anyway. The more steps between the # and setting the date, the more opportunity to get flakey or make a texting mistake Also keep in mind 1 date out of 10 numbers is GOOD. Anything more is exceptional. That's why no matter how much advice people give, they always conclude with it's a…
/r/seduction21/06/21 03:29 AM
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Don't beat yourself up, just cut contact, delete number
/r/seduction21/06/21 02:41 AM
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You have to be genuinely interested in them as a human. Yes they are a hot girl you'd like to sleep with, but they are also person with a life, feelings, thoughts. This is not soft simp shit. You have to be interested or it's fake. "Being interesting is being interested" Read How to Win Friends and Influence People. If you're going with straight pick up agenda, it will always be fake and awkward and possibly creepy cause you're trying to "take away" from the interaction instead of add any sort o…
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:42 PM
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Yeah you did well, especially leaving her place. Always leave if she goes off the deep end with shit like that But if she never stops the bullshit your whole relationship will have these weird tests over and over Every girl tests but secure ones will test less the more they trust you
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:30 PM
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Shit test shit test shit test shit test shit test
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:23 PM
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Gj but yeah never approach from behind, make a wide arch to get in her field of view of you can
/r/seduction15/06/21 09:14 PM
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The last # I got started texting me the day after and I fucked it up by trying to game too much then ask for date too soon. I'm not good at text game so at the very least I'm just slowing everything down. I got another number that I am probably going to call. She didn't seem like the super flirty texty type. Honestly I might just start calling all of them and skip texting at first. Fucking annoying lol
/r/seduction17/05/21 12:54 PM
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You're completely right. I get the number and dip when especially in this case I could've escalated more. Granted, I was on lunch break, but I know I could've touched her at least once and stuff like that. Thanks for confirming what I was thinking. I still haven't hit her up, I was sure she would've texted me first but not yet. I'll hit her up maybe tomorrow
/r/seduction17/05/21 12:30 PM
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Take her to gym then find a place for smoothies afterward you're good bro You want to bring her into your "world"
/r/seduction14/05/21 02:08 AM
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Appreciate you, but statistically 100% of my blow outs/ghosts have involved texting too much even when I thought i was spacing it out well enough (2-4 hours between texts). My success have come from literally not texting at all except for that first initiation, and waiting on her to reach out. Since I told her to text me and she was so adamant about getting my number I'm going to wait till the weekend is over unless I hear from her first. Texting has its place but for me so far it's overall been…
/r/seduction13/05/21 08:12 PM
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User name checks out I'd take his advice
/r/seduction13/05/21 07:04 PM
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Yoga classes in my area are $9 per Honestly walk through the park I've gotten 3 numbers in the past week from just that but I also have my dog with me
/r/seduction13/05/21 06:46 PM
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You failed when you gave it to the other guy then she came back around to rub it in your face by saying you should've kept dj'ing Women are relentless by nature and they do this not on purpose You have to give zero fucks I would've put on Baby by justin bieber and told the party that she requested it in a playful manner "hey guys Jessica really wanted me to play this song!" Now she's on the spot and everyone probably has a good laugh
/r/seduction11/05/21 04:50 AM
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There was a post yesterday explaining how guys with the lowest self esteem have the highest standards for casual sex partners Def made me reflect
/r/seduction10/05/21 11:47 PM
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I'd use it as an opportunity to address her concerns. You frame it like she's the one acting odd because in reality she is... "Hm you know what's funny about you? I can see you don't mind me touching you but at the same time you seem a little unsure of yourself. Have you typically had bad first dates or what?" You want her to express her concerns, so you can verbally address and relate to them. She may be thinking of negative experiences she's had so you need to get that out in the open, relate …
/r/seduction10/05/21 11:28 PM
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I get you. Approaching has shown me how thirsty I am and how much I need to work on other parts of my life in addition to dating. Just trying to approach with a shitty social life will end up in girls leaving even if you get results sometimes.
/r/seduction10/05/21 11:07 PM
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Think of Mike Tyson's quote "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" I've learned more in going out and getting rejected than I have watching 50 videos on youtube Honestly I've gotten 7 -8 numbers and had one date which is decent success rate. I still have one girl in my phone I haven't hit up and if I was more patient I could've gotten the girl I mentioned out too since she was showing very high interest You got to get out there and make your moves. Watching YouTube won't get …
/r/seduction10/05/21 06:57 PM
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Yeah I'm a beginner in "information overload" So many coaches say different things. Despite my improvement I see I still come off thirsty... because I am. I really think I need to just slow everything down after getting a number. This last chick that blew me off started texting me the day after we exchanged numbers. So I followed Corey Wayne's advice and tried to set a date since she reached out first. Well she blew me off and I am just considering her blown out. I knew I should've ignored her t…
/r/seduction10/05/21 01:31 AM
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You are so right about the paradox of game Those who look hungry never get fed Such a damn delicate balance in approaching yet remaining non needy Women are like cats. Any sudden movement scares them off and who knows when they'll be back
/r/seduction10/05/21 12:53 AM
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Simple, I like it
/r/seduction10/05/21 12:51 AM
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Appreciate this, very insightful. Honestly labeling it "social approach" even seems to take off more of the pressure. Removing the implication of desired outcome
/r/seduction09/05/21 06:56 PM
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Talk to everyone you meet and don't judge what you talk about. If you're talking about the weather than be enthusiastic about it The more conversations you have the sharper you'll be Practice "carrying the burden" as in if you start the convo then you need to keep it going. Don't expect the other person to randomly start leading the interaction, rarely happens. Don't just leave the interaction if there is one pause, will create a bad habit
/r/seduction09/05/21 11:03 AM
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This post is like what pick up youtubers don't tell you Their lay count is mostly 5s and 6s Makes so much god damn sense I talk to only the hottest girls I see and they're like trying to catch a butterfly bare handed after getting their number I hate fat chicks though. My dick literally doesn't work for them
/r/seduction09/05/21 09:43 AM
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Same. I typed out a long post but I'll just go with "Those who look hungry never get fed" I've made so much progress with women in a short time but it's like now I'm making mistakes on a subliminal level and the women can sense it. I can get numbers all day which was exciting at first but I actually want to bang these chicks too. And paradoxically that's my problem... The thirst, the hunger. It's seeping out in microscopic ways.
/r/seduction09/05/21 09:23 AM
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I think you know best how to close the gap What I'm envisioning is tell her you want to show her something in your phone so get up and walk over and briefly put one hand on her shoulder as you hold your phone out with the other hand just like you were showing something to your buddy Hopefully that made sense
/r/seduction09/05/21 04:50 AM
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Bro she's probably waiting for you to advance. Keep it subtle and keep us updated
/r/seduction09/05/21 04:28 AM
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A bad reaction is she looks at your hand in disgust or obviously if she pulls away or flinches or acknowledges it in any way. Just think what you would do if someone you didn't like touched you. Don't over think it
/r/seduction09/05/21 04:15 AM
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A question, have you broken the "touch barrier" ? I'd say that's the next move Next time you guys crack a joke or she's up close find a congruent way to touch her shoulder or forearm and gauge the reaction
/r/seduction09/05/21 03:52 AM
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Usually they tell me to fuck off and I throw up the deuces
/r/seduction09/05/21 03:46 AM
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Thanks for the comment. I think I forget that girls shit test automatically by nature and I take it as a personal attack. I can see I'm being a bitch by dissing the fuck out of them to save face
/r/seduction09/05/21 03:34 AM
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They do all the same things you do when you like someone but they have longer hair to fiddle with Glance when you're not looking, turn toward you, adjust their clothing, touch their hair etc
/r/seduction08/05/21 08:41 PM
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For one thing I would've went with the I ran from Connecticut thing because that was pretty funny lol Yeah she seemed into you, if a girl is chatting you up without you doing much effort safe to say she is attracted Honestly when a girl is that into you you could probably just say hey I got to run but I'd like to see you again let's exchange numbers Get her number then text her about 20 minutes later with "save my # (Your Name)" You can customize this a bit The reason you text your number to her…
/r/seduction08/05/21 08:07 PM
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Good shit Try indirect openers Less initial compliance needed from the girl Since you're not from that area try talking about "how the people are different than back home" and they'll want to know why I'm rambling
/r/seduction08/05/21 07:27 PM
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Yes it's easier if you're physically attractive But I will say it doesn't do anything if you can't talk a good game. Verbal and theory are so important
/r/seduction08/05/21 07:23 PM
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Fuck that go out more than you stay in Unless you have a dog
/r/seduction08/05/21 08:13 AM
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What town you in
/r/seduction08/05/21 08:12 AM
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FUCK WINGS
/r/seduction08/05/21 08:11 AM
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Bro wings are fucking pussies mine straight up lost me a chick gl tomorrow
/r/seduction08/05/21 08:07 AM
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FR I'm drunk taking up the rest room
/r/seduction08/05/21 06:20 AM
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None of that matters She needs to know you can walk away at any moment She will jerk you around and try to keep you on a string Especially when weed is involved, she wants to get high so she will hit you up as a "friend" since you also smoke If you want more you need to stay focused and not tolerate friend zone bullshit My buddies and I used to call them "weed whores" they come around to smoke and leave you hanging Remain focused if you like her Edit: read this comment 3 times
/r/seduction08/05/21 04:53 AM
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Bro that means she sees you as an option to bang out but you will have to pass multiple shit tests and deal with her "concerns" You're on the cusp of friend zone with her so you will either succeed or she will jerk you around and just use you for weed later on If she gives you some friend zone talk, politely escort her out of your place as you explain you are not interested in just friends With all due respect, she needs to know you're not a push over beta
/r/seduction08/05/21 04:07 AM
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Also agree but I would never ever recommend the movies as a first date but I get your point brother
/r/seduction08/05/21 04:02 AM
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Gj bro there's always going to be a rejection rate around 40 - 60% half the battle is approaching Just what I noticed in your story is maybe focus on creating frames instead of "making them laugh" I've done the laugh thing and many times you just come off as a random funny guy (clown) that is easy to forget
/r/seduction08/05/21 02:42 AM
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Hotel or her place
/r/seduction07/05/21 05:48 AM
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You chat them both up but have to give zero fucks about the friend being an audience when you want to close the hottie Use the friend to tease her a bit "I bet you have to watch out for her when she's partying huh" or whatever But keep in mind you want a good impression on both so the friend encourages the cutie to hit you up Also try to pull your girl away if you can not always possible
/r/seduction07/05/21 05:12 AM
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Day by day brother Sleep, work, work out, eat, make money I lived with my parents till I was 32 Tom Cruise is 5'8 I moved to a college town out in a low population state to make things more affordable with $6k in my account. I got my own place down town, got a job in 2 weeks, paid for a year gym membership and I'm there 6 days a week. You got to make moves Here's a quote that helped me "It would be better if your roommates were a crack head and a prostitute than living at home" Think about it Cu…
/r/seduction07/05/21 04:46 AM
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Ok so I just read blah blah blah blah blah What are you going to do about it tomorrow? No excuses dude
/r/seduction07/05/21 04:25 AM
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Bro I think your problem lies within that last sentence. I wouldn't worry about eye contact if you think you're "no good" to begin with What's going on?
/r/seduction07/05/21 04:10 AM
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Initiate in person since you see her often. That card game thing is awesome for social proof, especially if you're one of the leaders of the group. How's your eye contact? How's your posture? Be sure that's on point. If you're popular amongst that group she may already feel some attraction toward you. Just be straight forward and introduce yourself. Flirt/banter for a minute. For getting numbers I have great success with "hey (name) I'd like to see you/talk to you again let's exchange numbers" N…
/r/seduction07/05/21 03:33 AM
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The gym is definitely unique... I just posted a couple days ago about getting blown out. I see her there almost every night and now just ignore her. All I can do is plant the seed. On the other hand I had a milf open me, take me to the "meditation" room and blow me right then and there. At the very least make sure you're one of the best looking dudes there.
/r/seduction07/05/21 02:58 AM
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Aside from specific red flags or whatever, a relationship is ALWAYS based on the woman's attraction level toward you. Unless you lose interest first... Somewhere along the line her attraction level dropped to where other options seemed more appealing Never contact her again, keep doing you and maybe she'll be back. The question now is what is your next step going forward? To empathize, yes, it does hurt
/r/seduction07/05/21 02:42 AM
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"But I got anxious so didn't a make move said bye and left" You have no room for anxiety with women. They can sense it in your eyes, body, anything. Also, you cannot wait for a future time to make a move, generally speaking. If you seem interested but don't do anything she will remember and if this continues the more and more she will think you're weak or at best, disinterested. Women are hard wired to sense insecurity in men. You may get away with it sometimes at first if she really likes you b…
/r/seduction07/05/21 01:26 AM
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Yes, dog. Also, that's what I was thinking. Thanks
/r/seduction06/05/21 07:52 PM
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Yeah there's definitely a dark side to "seduction" I think moreso in the early stages. I feel like I'm leaving a path of destruction in my wake especially since I live in a small town I see a lot of the girls around again and just have to ignore them. Some coaches talk about letting women come to you, which I understand, but sometimes that could be like one a month or less which is terrible for experience. Also I realize I'm totally skipping "building comfort" in some interactions like a "we bot…
/r/seduction06/05/21 04:16 PM
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What do you mean taking breaks
/r/seduction06/05/21 04:51 AM
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Bro thank you this helps
/r/seduction06/05/21 04:46 AM
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Time to take action Trust me, after one small victory like getting a number you will recognize you can be successful again and again Keep in mind you will get rejected at least 50% of the time If girls have already been into you in your life then you have what it takes so look back on that for confidence and just take the time to develop your skills
/r/seduction06/05/21 03:39 AM
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Bro I pushed so hard on my last date for the kiss now she's ghost. I literally just walked away from the date when she refused second kiss attempt as we were dancing. Recently I lost a girl by being too needy then by being too much of an asshole. I'm in the nice guy turned asshole loop but I've realized needy is still needy despite sheep or wolf clothing. Deleted all my numbers and starting again without outcome in mind. Getting blown off by the first girl really fucked me up. Then ditching the …
/r/seduction06/05/21 03:20 AM
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Keep in mind the concept of "time wasters." They're a little bored so they text but have no intention of ever meeting. Just deleted one. If a girl is excited to meet you she will make the time and effort. She will invest in the texts a bit more. Also, your goofy scenario thing is way better than interview questions but it's not the means to the close. Keep doing your thing and watch some playingwithfire text game videos on youtube
/r/seduction05/05/21 11:25 PM
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Bro thanks. Like I said, I've been there but I don't brag about it. You're right about the instant compassion thing.
/r/seduction05/05/21 09:40 PM
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I think the biggest lie is you don't have to be physically attractive to the woman. All the success I have I can tell the girl initially finds me attractive. Attraction is not a choice and you can't game it into a woman. You can definitely talk them out of it though.
/r/seduction05/05/21 09:14 PM
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Stacy your parents just died in a car wreck. Just kidding but I would be here for you if they did.
/r/seduction05/05/21 09:10 PM
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Thanks for your insight.
/r/seduction05/05/21 09:06 PM
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Thanks
/r/seduction05/05/21 07:57 PM
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Just a question for future reference thanks
/r/seduction05/05/21 07:57 PM
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Thanks
/r/seduction05/05/21 07:56 PM
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When you popped out the window and said your line how did the rest of that interaction play out? She walked to your car or you parked then approached etc Thanks
/r/seduction05/05/21 06:36 PM
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No you need to practice those things. One exercise I've done to help with eye contact is when ever you're walking past ANYONE just look at them smile and say "hello!" and keep going. Very low pressure and after you get some people to smile back and say hello you'll realize the world is not such a scary place Practice your body language while walking, with cashiers, bank tellers, any low pressure situation where you are expected to just stand there. You HAVE to put in work on the basics you menti…
/r/seduction05/05/21 06:14 PM
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+1 experience Note what you could've done better or if that approach was even worth it (other than just for fuck's sake)
/r/seduction05/05/21 03:54 PM
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Yeah exactly lol
/r/seduction05/05/21 11:36 AM
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You don't call girls dude?
/r/seduction05/05/21 11:31 AM
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Thanks for feedback. My mentality was just get it done and be quick cause it was the gym. Honestly I felt I've gotten indicators of interest from her before so I was relying heavily on my physical appearance here. It was basically a "am I hot enough" toss up which is why I think she even gave me the time. The reason why I was challenging her and being aloof is because in my mind I was trying to treat her like I would any other girl despite her looks. The only other time I've talked to a girl in …
/r/seduction05/05/21 11:05 AM
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At the grocery if they're browsing tea or coffee just say you're looking for something new and ask what kind they drink Or just be direct and say great ass baby let's dance Remember, you always have two options: direct or indirect. So decide on that first then that should help you be more focused. Then the safest option is simply, "Hey I'm _______, I wanted to say hi."
/r/seduction05/05/21 05:58 AM
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That's the plan I mean I don't talk to her anyway so there was nothing to lose. Fortunately I look good so yeah maybe she'll open me one day. Curious, why would you say that's a big no? Btw I see you on this sub all the time you look fun and out going
/r/seduction05/05/21 05:32 AM
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