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Why are you commenting? If you don't want to be useful, why just sling jargon? You just here to feel like you belong to something? This is literally a question reddit
/r/askMRP15/10/18 05:13 PM
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I'm breaking it down in simplified terms in to the categories that are most relevant to older men in the dating scene. You're taking it personally as if I'm saying those are the ONLY differences between older women. Obviously I'm aware that NAWALLT (not all women are literally like that). They're broad generalizations. Intelligent people can understand that broad generalizations are just that, and can realize that I'm not saying there are literally two women and all women are literally clones of…
/r/seduction21/09/18 05:11 PM
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So, the people who post "Mint PS4 box" on eBay and literally ship an empty PS4 box after someone paid the price of an actual PS4 isn't a con artist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 05:07 PM
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I do believe there are inherent differences between men and women. If that's sexism, then I guess I'm sexist.
/r/seduction21/09/18 05:01 PM
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Everyone looks like a cool person on their social media.
/r/askTRP21/09/18 04:52 PM
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This is where the naivete I mentioned above comes in. Any con artist can argue that their victims thought they were getting fair value out of the exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 04:51 PM
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Good point, but maybe explain it to OP or at least give a link.
/r/askMRP21/09/18 04:50 PM
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There's basically two types of older women. Old, bitter cat ladies who rode the CC right in to the wall. Women who married young enough that they never had to "settle" (maybe married a high school sweatheart) but got divorced when their kids grew up and "the spark was gone". These are the ones you want to go after when you're older. They're looking for fun and don't want to play any games because they've already fulfilled their sexual strategy and are free to enjoy themselves.
/r/seduction21/09/18 04:45 PM
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What point? That taking advantage of someone for personal gain isn't manipulation? Come on...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 04:38 PM
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No one is denying that she is having sex with this man. ... for his money. That's the key here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 04:30 PM
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If he was the kind of guy who would kill someone for sleeping with his girl, he would be the kind of guy girls wouldn't want to cheat on. In other words, he would be a tough, no bullshit, alpha kid of guy, and she probably wouldn't think of him as so much of a beta that she's thinking about cheating on him. Besides, if she's so forward and direct about wanting to cheat with you, what makes you think you're the first/only guy she's cheated with? She's in full on AFBB mode. I wouldn't be surprised…
/r/askTRP21/09/18 04:28 PM
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Don't listen to the anger-phasers who constantly rationalize their approach anxiety / lack of success because "she just wants to fuck men for validation!" Everything anyone does can be construed as "using" because,, of course, no one does something they don't want to do for some reason. That's how it works. This mentality that a girl has to be in to you for completely selfless, altruistic reasons is in just incel logic. "She only fucks the hot guys for validation! Yeah, that's why they don't fuc…
/r/askTRP21/09/18 04:22 PM
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Do you want to do it? Yeah, that's why he asked if... Oh, nvm
/r/askTRP21/09/18 04:14 PM
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Are we reading the same thread? Plenty of people are defending her saying that's not what she's doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 04:10 PM
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/u/jackandjill22 might be coming off as a complete turd with his keyboard warrior level rhetoric, but he's not wrong. Taking advantage of someone who's naive and generous is textbook manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 04:05 PM
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You would need to live in SF Bay area/NYC/Seattle Nah, go to Houston or Durham NC. Cost of living will be much cheaper and you can make good money in those kind of areas. Most big tech companies set up big campuses in areas that have low cost of living and low cost of doing business like Texas and RTP.
/r/askTRP05/09/18 03:56 PM
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I highly recommend reading "Iron John: A Book About Men" by Robert Bly. You need to cut the apron strings, and that's a big subject in that book. Your an adult man, and your mom is just a woman. Not to get all Freudian on you, but her instincts are to hook men and secure male support and company, even in a non-sexual way. My mom tries this kind of shit every now and then, usually when my dad is out of town or they have an argument or whatever. She's even invited me to stay the night at her house…
/r/askTRP08/09/17 05:57 PM
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Will you ever lose lust for other women? Do you still watch porn and jerk off? Do you secretly worry that those other men are actually better than you? These are the questions you should be investigating. She's not yours, it's just your turn. How long your turn with her lasts will depend entirely on you.
/r/askMRP08/09/17 05:47 PM
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So, you came in here with a seemingly honest question, but you only accept answers that validate your preconceptions as "honest"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 05:24 PM
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I interpreted it as "easy to say when you're only looking at him on a screen instead of meeting him in real life".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 03:01 PM
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He isn't even accusing OP of lying. People often respond differently to situations than they expect they would. It's a fairly basic psychological truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 02:11 PM
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One of the common arguments made by BP here is that most of the success stories on TRP are fake or exaggerated...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 02:09 PM
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I think you under-estimate the power of cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:23 PM
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Firstly, why are you nagging her about her ex so that she has to give you "assurances"? Secondly, why are you stalking her ex's place? Thirdly, why aren't you spinning more plates anyway? As the great American philosopher Rosebudd once said "one ho is too close to none".
/r/TheRedPill03/03/17 05:09 AM
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I've done LSD too.
/r/askTRP03/03/17 05:05 AM
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The problem is that TRP is large community with a lot of different perspectives and interpretations. Employ some methodological individualism and read each poster/commenter as individuals engaging in a discussion instead of trying to piece together some kind of singular belief structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 04:55 AM
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So, let me get this straight. You're coming to asktrp for advice on how to not have sex with a girl who's coming over to your place to watch a movie? If this is a troll, 9/10
/r/askTRP13/02/17 06:09 PM
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Counter-anecdote: before me, my wife primarily dated much older guys. E.g, she was 16 dating a guy in his mid 30s, etc. Not as a big a gap as 18 vs 40s, but similarly taboo. Anyways, of the 3-4 older guys she dated, only one was a creepy, manipulative guy with mental health issues (diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder, and a perpetual semi-pedo). The other guys were nice sweethearts who she herself pursued. One of which actually researched age of consent laws before agreeing to date …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:05 PM
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Dear diary, Today TBP was a pretty cool guy/gal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:55 PM
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Attacks by strangers: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs9310.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:52 PM
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Men are the primary victims of violent crime overall. The idea that men aren't targeted by violent criminals is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:45 PM
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Don't be an aspie. Obviously I didn't mean they want any 18yo. They want hot 18yos because they're hotter than hot 40yos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:42 PM
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Of course you calibrate to your impression of them, why wouldn't you? It's not judgemental, it's normal.
/r/seduction13/02/17 04:39 PM
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I don't see how any of that means men who want young women want them because they're easily manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:36 PM
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90% of the time it's because 18 year olds are hot, and the women their age are either bitter divorcees, or ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:13 PM
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Don't over think it. AWALT even if they read TRP, and good game works even if they know it's game. Her calling you out is just a shit test like any shit test. It's just a meta-shit test. It's no different than girls who say things like "I bet you say that to all the girls", etc. Women have been trying to meta-game men's game forever. Just keep your cool, continue to A&A, be fun, etc.
/r/askTRP13/02/17 04:04 PM
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Yeah I mean how the fuck do you thrust lol. It's pretty weird. You mentioned in another comment that you go to the gym. Do you deadlift? If so, have you had your form checked? Thrusting should be like the last hip-lock of a deadlift. If you work those muscles and train your CNS for that motion, thrusting will feel more natural.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/17 06:01 PM
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You're not new here. You know half the purpose of this sub is to try to interpret female behavior based on experience and intuition, which is exactly what OC did. And I think it's a pretty solid interpretation. Your sarcasm about reading minds is pointless.
/r/seduction10/02/17 05:49 PM
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This is the wrong reason to do it. Reaction seeking behavior is beta af. Do it because you mean it. Or don't do it at all.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/02/17 05:38 PM
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If you never reward good behavior, you can't expect it to continue.
/r/askTRP10/02/17 05:23 PM
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Oh god. Height trolls, race trolls, acne trolls, penis size trolls. FFS, circumcision trolls? I don't even care of this gets flagged for circlejerking. I'm so tired of that shit.
/r/askTRP09/02/17 02:24 AM
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The real distinction comes down to why you're talking. Talking to fill an awkward silence; to impress people, name-drop or brag; to explain yourself or apologize unnecessarily; or because you're nervous or uncomfortable are all beta tells. Talking to amuse yourself, lead the group, or to otherwise communicate in a genuine, uninhibited way is alpha.
/r/askTRP08/02/17 03:24 PM
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TRP can definitely be a factor. The depression phase is a bitch and depression will definitely kill your libido.
/r/askTRP07/02/17 09:44 PM
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No fap is a cult. Sure, some guys waste their lives fapping constantly and need to stop, but most non-neckbeard-incels don't need to go full no fap. I tried it when I first came to these subs and started having the same problems as OP. Especially when you start hitting the depression phase of unplugging. Depression will kill your libido faster than anything.
/r/askTRP07/02/17 09:42 PM
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That's why married women are so good in bed. The thrill of the secret sexual getaway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:45 PM
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I think you're putting the cart before the horse. Asexual societies turn sex in to a gimmick.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:42 PM
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Talk to everyone instead. Talk to guys and make ONS buddies with them. That way when you talk to girls they'll just think you're a social guy and "just trying to get laid".
/r/seduction01/02/17 05:31 PM
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She's right to be pissed. Showing your buddies nudes of a girl you're banging is a huge violation of her privacy. And if you're willing to show this other girl's nudes, the girl who was there now has to wonder what you've told/shown your buddies about her. If you don't understand that women value privacy about their sex lives more than just about anything else, you don't know shit about women. If you show you're the kind of guy who can't keep it to himself, no chick will want to be your plate. B…
/r/askTRP30/01/17 09:16 PM
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Just pay for the room dude, you're over thinking this. It's not like you're taking her out to fancy dinners and waiting 5 dates before sex. She's already down for hooking up, just pay for the room. It's not a shit test and it doesn't make you BB or anything. In the long history of affairs, men have always paid for the room. She's not your sugar momma.
/r/askTRP16/12/16 03:43 PM
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some men still don't (or refuse to) get it. Again, we're back to OP. Your definition of "clear as day" and his are probably different. This is a huge part of the miscommunication between men and women. Men (in general) use direct language. Hell, I've even had women persist and pursue me knowing I'm married. In fact, I'm convinced that being a taken man is often seen as a challenge or even a turn on for (a lot of) women. Why should women expect men to just give up when she says she has a boyfrien…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 05:50 PM
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Although indirect doesn't necessarily mean it isn't clear. I'm sure that's what most women who use subtle hints tell themselves. "But I told him I'm busy twice when he's asked me out before and he's asking me out again, how am I not making it clear?!" You see, it's a very fuzzy line.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 05:35 PM
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The Game is a documentary and commentary (you might even call it an "expose" because Strauss set out to "infiltrate and report") on the people within the (old) PUA community. It's not an instruction manual. If you're looking for a guide to pickup there are much better alternatives. The sidebar and other posts around here are full of recommendations.
/r/seduction15/12/16 05:31 PM
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But isn't that "indirect" shit exactly what OP is talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 05:27 PM
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It really depends on your tone and demeanor. In general, for new guys, especially recovering Nice Guys, yeah, it's generally a good idea to avoid excessive apologizing.
/r/askTRP15/12/16 05:19 PM
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So, if it's so obvious when guys are like that, why do women act all oblivious when guys complain about the friendzone? Or do you think other women are really oblivious about a guy's interest when he does those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 05:16 PM
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Making innocent virgin women have fun and engage in teh sehks!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:18 PM
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Basically, a bottom bitch.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/16 05:13 PM
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Sheesh. I bet you're great at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 05:07 PM
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Thomas Sowell Marry me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 05:00 PM
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I'm sorry sweety I didn't mean to lose my cool and yell at you like that. Please don't leave me. I love you! I promise things will be different, I'm a new man! Hey come back here! No, don't call the cops baby! I didn't mean it I swear!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 04:57 PM
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Did I say there are no posts about shitty wives? I don't think I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 04:16 PM
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The 'positive' stories are mostly about how they gamed women, dominated them, got laid etc How are those not positive stories? why don't you post what you love about your wife? You mean like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 04:15 PM
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You often say redpill isn't about sharing the good stories about women in your lives. Who says that? There are plenty of positive stories on TRP and MRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:57 PM
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What do you want, a motivational speech or something? Sympathy for how hard it is? Some empty platitudes about how you can do eeet?
/r/askTRP13/12/16 02:55 PM
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Date: If she were independently wealthy and didn't expect me to be a surrogate father to her kids (in addition to the usual things I require, obv). I would also be OK with "dating" as long as it was clear that I'm just Mr Right Now while she dates around looking for Mr Right, or hell, I'd even be OK with just being her backdoor man while she's in a relationshit with a BB she's trying to lock down if she was hot enough and GGG about it. Marry: Never again. I'm currently married, but if I were sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 05:03 PM
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While I don't doubt that this is true in some, a lot, or maybe even most cases, I certainly don't think that means there aren't any genuine and sincere female anti-feminists. Janice Fiamengo, for example has a great video on being a female white knight. It's definitely worth watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 04:05 PM
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/r/raisedbynarcissists As everyone else is saying, just cut her out of your life. Plenty of people do it. Don't be guilt tripped by the "but she's your mom!" bullshit. She sounds like a downright toxic bitch.
/r/askTRP12/12/16 02:27 AM
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I'm probably a 6/10 at best (tall, but thin and with an average/nerdy face) and I've had same-night lays with women I just met in a bar that I went to alone. Online dating data is going to be heavily skewed towards physical attractiveness, obviously, and isn't going to tell you much about in-person success, where posture, tonality, mood, likeability, etc (i.e, Game) can make a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 01:41 AM
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If your bad breath is the thing you're worried about, maybe you should have mentioned that somewhere. I'm not "making fun" of you, but your defensiveness over an issue that wasn't even being discussed reveals a lot of deep seeded insecurities. If anything is going to impede your success with women, it's that level of defensiveness and insecurity.
/r/seduction11/12/16 03:22 PM
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For the sarcasm impared: I was being sarcastic because obviously there are no fixed rules in seduction and your twin brother would at least as good a wingman as anyone else. If this needs to be explained, maybe you should give up on life.
/r/seduction10/12/16 12:45 AM
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Don't say shit. In fact, if you play it off right, this could turn out to be perfect game. Good game involves little hints of vulnerability and romanticism. If anything, act extra cold and distant, keep her guessing. You have a wall around your heart that she needs to climb.
/r/askTRP10/12/16 12:43 AM
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email address I literally lol'd. This is golden. I haven't seen game this strong on this sub in years. Imma use this shit.
/r/askTRP10/12/16 12:38 AM
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Find an excuse to be alone in a room with her. Proceed with sex. Don't be weird. Easy.
/r/seduction10/12/16 12:20 AM
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No. Rule #367 of seddit: you can't use your twin brother as a wingman.
/r/seduction09/12/16 11:57 PM
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The gay men I know are some of the most naturally red pill men I've met. They get to see all the shady, catty, and manipulative behaviors of women because women treat them like other women so they let it out. Women act very differently around each other when men aren't around and gay men see it all.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/16 03:56 PM
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It's projection. They know what turns them on and they assume being that will turn men on. It's the same reason women play hard to get, because they know how much it excites them when a man is hard to get.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/16 03:53 PM
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see reality for what it is But that's the very thing in debate here, not whether or not the members of TRP angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 10:38 PM
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You're dodging my point over semantic technicalities. You very clearly claimed that TRP only believes what it does in a vacuum lacking social exposure, and that people "like you" who have "real life experience" would never agree with TRP. I'm saying that's a ridiculous strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 07:47 PM
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Guys don't come to RP because they're winning at life. This is not controversial. Which is why I began my original reply to you with "it's true". But you're trying to draw an equivocation between "winning at life" and being BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 07:34 PM
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You're listening to her words instead of her feels. She could be just trying to be humble, or skipping over some important aspect that maybe she's not even aware as the reason she's so enamored by him. The point is, he's doing something right or she wouldn't even be considering it. Honestly, just by the overall tone of her post, and her description of his attitude, it sounds like this dude has some key game.
/r/askTRP05/12/16 07:23 PM
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You claimed TRP is out of touch with "the real world" and that people like you who "have relationships and know other people" are all BP. This assumes your own preconceptions and world view as "obvious" to anyone who isn't some kind of reclusive loser. My point was that plenty of people, including myself, who have active social lives and successful relationships disagree with you, and that just because you want to shame and dismiss RPers for being socially inept based on your caricature doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 07:18 PM
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Sub teaching losers how to not be losers attracts a bunch of losers and is criticized for being full of losers... It would be like criticizing /r/Bodybuilding for being full of skinnyfat amateurs. Of course it is!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 06:10 PM
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It's true that a lot of the guys who are drawn to TRP are introverted outcasts with little to no social interaction or experience. And the first thing we tell them is to go out and learn how to be social like a normal human being. But that isn't an argument against TRP theory, and it is exactly the point of OP to point out that people like you who judge the members of TRP for being losers are missing the point of TRP. Yes, a lot of guys on TRP have little social experience, but many of us have h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 06:07 PM
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AWALT. All women will happily share a high value man if he has the game and the frame to pull it off.
/r/askTRP05/12/16 05:39 PM
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Exactly. That "partners in crime" mentality is a massive boost to both people's sense of connection and love. We don't talk about that kind of fluffy stuff around here much, but it's a goddamn good feeling when you're with a girl who happily and enthusiastically takes on the role of the trusted sidekick without any need for petty, bitchy oneupmanship which is the scourge of modern, western, "liberated" women. Nothing feels more natural than that moment when you realize your girl is on your team …
/r/askTRP05/12/16 05:30 PM
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Yes! This man fucking gets it. This is the kind of fun, free-spirited, low-key attitude that awaits you newbies when you get to the acceptance phase. The denial, anger, bargaining and depression are all part of the journey, but when you get to this point it will start to click together and you can start to enjoy women again for who and what they are without any bitterness or delusions. But you have to do whatever it takes to get there. Don't let yourselves wallow in anger too long, you're only s…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/16 05:18 PM
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RPW wouldn't give you good advice anyway. Just a bunch of clucking hens reinventing "The Rules" with RP lingo. I think /u/SkorchZang is spot on with his reply. The only thing I would add is that the best thing you can do is be happy and supportive of him. Be his cheerleader in his pursuits, make it a fun game you're both playing on these women. Think of it like sport fishing. He likes the chase and the thrill, but it's not about love. Keep in mind that his sexuality is not like yours, it's not i…
/r/askTRP05/12/16 05:02 PM
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I've been saying this for a while. Yes, a lot of people on r/TheRedPill are pathetic neckbeards looking to score bro points for circlejerking with excessive use of in-group lingo and chest-beating braggadocio. But that's just the internet in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 04:49 PM
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Wow, a non-circlejerky, good faith understanding of RP! I think you summed it up perfectly. Personally, this is one of the few areas where I diverge from most of TRP. I have no problem with promiscuity. My wife and I have an open marriage and we both fuck other people. I've never really understood the sort of visceral jealousy most men have about it. But I also understand that it is how most men feel about it, and they have every right to include chastity in their list of romantic preferences/re…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 03:58 PM
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Not being able to give him monthly duty sex while maintaining an exclusive lock-down on his dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 03:48 PM
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I thought we were all just grabbing pussy now...
/r/askTRP03/12/16 06:35 AM
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The same can be said about almost any online community. Of course the majority of the people on TRP are whiny neckbeards inflating their egos. It's the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:57 PM
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Those click-baity articles are reflective of the general cultural attitude. It also aligns with my personal experience. Do you have any good arguments for why you disagree other than bald assertions?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 07:46 PM
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Google "why men cheat" and "why women cheat". For men, you'll find the majority of articles have, at best, a general focus on men's propensity for promiscuity, or at worst, are articles targeted at women with a theme around how men lie, the "excuses" men make and have an overall dismissive or diminutive tone, etc. For the articles about women cheating, almost all of them are focused on the husband's failure to meet her "emotional needs" or the old trope that cheating means there's something wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 07:08 PM
3

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 06:45 PM
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Give them a bag of skittles.
/r/askTRP02/12/16 06:27 PM
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Only a fringe subculture uses the word cuckold in any context other than as a category on PornHub. Most people are BP and will not only excuse a woman for sleeping around and/or cheating, they will usually assume it's the man's fault somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 06:19 PM
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I guess I see what you're saying. But it wasn't always that way. So something changed...
/r/TheRedPill02/12/16 03:17 AM
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Explosions explosions 3 was way better! Fewer explosions, but they were much better! Anyone who disagrees is a cuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 11:45 PM
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Men betray their closest friends because "women are the bottleneck"?
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 09:27 PM
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Happened to me... I don't know how often it happens, but it does happen.
/r/askTRP01/12/16 05:58 PM
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Plausible deniability. She wanted to contact you but wanted a believable excuse, hoping you would take the hint and turn the conversation in to some fun banter or something. The "nevermind" thing is the equivalent to the old movie trope of a guy calling a girl he likes and then hanging up or pretending he called the wrong number as soon as she answers. If you want to bang her again, go for it. I don't agree that "don't shit where you eat" is always applicable, you have to judge for yourself. Wom…
/r/askTRP01/12/16 05:56 PM
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90+% of women who cheat are never caught. They're simply better at hiding it. Women who cheat do so with more planning and deliberation, while most men who cheat do it impulsively and carelessly. Source
/r/askTRP01/12/16 05:40 PM
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Why would it be creepy? What counts as creepy? Generally "creepy" is shaming language used by feminists and white knights. I'm not saying you're either one, but it might be worth while to investigate what it is about your unconscious belief structure that leads you to thinking of male sexuality in terms of "creepiness".
/r/askTRP01/12/16 05:35 PM
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It's a product of gynocentrism. Paul Elam talks about this in his Gynocentrism vs Values video. Elam gets a lot of flack around here for being a beta cuck or whatever, and perhaps that's true to a degree, but he definitely has a lot of good material on this kind of stuff.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 05:04 PM
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Why?
/r/askTRP01/12/16 04:59 PM
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He's an instructor with Real Social Dynamics. He has a panel van he drives around in and brings girls to for hot sexy times. It works.
/r/askTRP01/12/16 02:59 PM
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Just focus on her body and how it feels to touch her. Don't over-analyze it. Have fun.
/r/seduction01/12/16 02:55 PM
1

Great post. It's been nice seeing these kinds of posts recently. It's like TRP circa fall of 2014 again. Stare into her left pupil while saying nothing. Instant sexual tension. Just curious, why the left eye?
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 01:30 PM
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rejections actually have a negative effect on your social proof Only if you are visibly deflated by it. If you just keep rolling, it'll do nothing to your social proof. Acting like it does just displays insecurity and a need for validation. It's the difference between the clumsy awkward guy who trips and acts all flustered and embarrassed vs the normal, confident guy who trips and keeps walking like it's normal, because it is, because everyone trips occasionally. Acting like every trip makes you…
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 01:22 PM
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🍆 makes me wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 11:17 PM
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Make a deal with your friends. Tell them they're allowed to fuck any girl you're with as long as they tell you about it, and they don't tell her you said it was ok. Promise them that you'll never be upset, you just want to know what kind of girl you're with. If/when she cheats on you, dump her over text immediately and laugh with your bros.
/r/askTRP29/11/16 10:28 PM
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--they can't recognize when the "click" has happened Me throughout my 20s. I've known chicks who would tell me years after I've known them that they had a huge crush on me back in the day or whatever. I was completely oblivious. Of course, the girls I was interested in, I would usually fuck it up by being too needy, or going too hard on the "good boyfriend material" aspect, trying to invite them out on romantic dates, etc. It was the girls I assumed were out of my league or just not interested t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 09:10 PM
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I think a lot of men overstate their willingness to "fuck bitches bro" when talking to other men, especially if there's any degree of macho peer pressure in the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:58 PM
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Nice Guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:55 PM
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The answer is don't be an aspie. Social interaction has nuances and subtleties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:52 PM
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A solid point. Can't argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:44 PM
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I didn't say "anyone can get laid". Of course it's a complicated subject. That's my point. People who want to simplify it down to just one thing are silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:08 PM
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No, I'm the "there are a lot of factors and complexity to it all" guy. If course looks matter, but they aren't the only thing, and probably not the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:07 PM
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I've been told I look like Jeff Goldblum, but I don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:05 PM
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That "only 10/10 Chads get laid" guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:24 PM
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TRP really underestimates the power of social status and the fact that it can be separate from financial status within the right circles. It didn't used to. If you read old Chateau Heartiste posts back when it was still run by Roissy, he talks a lot about this. I don't know when TRP was taken over by all the looks/money trolls, but it's kind of a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:23 PM
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Oh yeah, you're that guy...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:17 PM
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It's not negotiable, but you can generate attraction. The whole point of "you can't negotiate attraction" is that you can't use logic and discussion to fix a low sex relationship, or to convince girls to sleep with you. It doesn't mean there aren't things you can do to generate attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 05:55 PM
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The women I approach rarely seem bothered. Most are pretty receptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 05:50 PM
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Right, but that's my point. It seems like OP is trying to refute all this PUA/TRP stuff by saying guys don't need it because all you have to do is "try harder". But the very reason PUA/TRP exists is to try to guide men along that complicated path of developing charisma, charm, game, etc. And it's exactly the fact that it's complicated as you say that makes the OP seem so pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 05:00 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you. I guess I'm just not sure what the "debate" subject is here... Are you trying to refute some aspect of TRP? If so, which part? I ask because the next logical reply for me to make here would be something like: ok, so what are "social skills" and how do you get them? Which is what most PUA/TRP advice is about in the first place. It just seems like your point here is "get good with girls, then talk to a lot of them", but it's that first part a lot of guys struggle with…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 04:56 PM
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You're just substituting one vague concept for another. "Be charismatic" is just as elusive as "click with her". The question is how to build charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 04:49 PM
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Ah, the magical "just click with" thing. You see, for a lot of guys that little bit you so casually gloss over is exactly what they struggle with: making that "click" thing happen with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 04:09 PM
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Emotional reality / emotional reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:03 PM
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The lady doth protest too much.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/16 02:00 PM
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Government can replace most of the security/provider BB requirements of women, freeing them up to pursue mostly AF.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/16 01:59 PM
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random illiterate goons who cannot comprehend four lines of text Shitty attitude confirmed.
/r/askTRP29/11/16 12:41 AM
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You have a pretty shitty attitude, dude. The comments here are meant to help you, by pointing out that using this anonymous service is pretty lame. Go meet girls in real life and talk to them.
/r/askTRP28/11/16 10:54 PM
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Yep. I used to notice this too when I was younger and it always made me feel a bit uncomfortable. Then I started paying attention to other people in classes/meetings and noticed that most people are just blankly staring forward, or spacing out in general. Then I realized that I was one of the few people who would actively listen, nod, make eye contact, etc.
/r/askTRP28/11/16 10:24 PM
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I don't know anything about Danish people, or how successful or not they are with women, or if so, why. It's an oddly specific anecdote, and I only have your broad assertions regarding their behavior to go on. But being "feminist" isn't contrary to what I described above, and there's a difference between being a kind person, and being a fedora-tipping Nice Guy.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/16 08:40 PM
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The problem is that these rape cases get way too much media coverage. People start making up their minds based on sensationalized headlines before the facts come out. Real rape happens, but so do false allegations. Without the facts, we can't know either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 07:41 PM
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All that matters is whether or not she feels like she was raped. And her feelings are all that matter. Who cares a few slobs go to prison over it, at least her feelings got validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 07:34 PM
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This, and this.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/16 07:28 PM
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That's not what he said. He said it correlates with looking good. The "success" part goes beyond just looking good. If you look good, but act awkward, needy, pandering or Nicetm, it'll kill a woman's attraction.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/16 06:52 PM
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This is true to an extent, but there can be a lot of room for false negatives. For example, bad pictures can make you look much worse than you actually do. Also, your facial expression in the pic makes a huge difference. Studies have shown that even lighting can make the difference between whether you look "good" in your pic, e.g, pics taken at dusk get better response, etc.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/16 05:55 PM
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You probably act different around girls.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/16 05:50 PM
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I think you're falling for the common misconception that "frame" is just about being cold and unresponsive or something.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/16 05:48 PM
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Borderline
/r/askTRP28/11/16 04:37 PM
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The problem isn't education in general. The problem is that our education system is highly inefficient in educating people about relevant, useful subjects. The university structure was designed around aristocratic principles, not to efficiently provide people with practical skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:32 PM
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Higher education is mostly a waste. Check out economist Bryan Caplan's The Case Against Education.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:16 PM
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This is a standard economic signaling problem. The same could be said about higher education, for example. The more people get college degrees, the more a college degree becomes essential in the job market, and the less having a degree distinguishes an individual. A good analogy would be people standing up in a theater. If everyone is sitting down, standing up would give you a better view, but if everyone stands up...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:21 PM
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Right. And in reality, what they really mean, at least subconsciously, is that "all the taken ones must be good".
/r/TheRedPill26/11/16 03:27 PM
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Actually, I'll go one step further and say that being single, especially after 30, to be a pretty big DLV in the eyes of most women. They'll assume you "can't get women". I've had so many women chase me because I'm married. Several have even openly said so.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/16 03:08 PM
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That's why "fake it till you make it" is (or at least used to be) a big part of TRP Game. Abundance mentality, amused mastery, "just get it" are all forms of "faking" a high degree of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 05:20 PM
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As an anecdote, my best friend was a virgin well in to his late 20s, and the only way he could pull himself out of it was to start frequenting hookers, and to get over his oneitis with a girl who never reciprocated any interest after he found out how much of a manipulative slut she was, instead of the pure angel he thought she was. So yeah, a catch-22, but one that guys can pull out of after expanding the scope of their experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 05:19 PM
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This comment actually kind of surprises me. It seems like you understand at least the underlying reason for TRP. That whole "wake-up call" experience is what lead men to even form groups like TRP to discuss their experiences and realizations. Interesting to see it discussed like this from your "side".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 05:16 PM
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Some of it is instinct. I wouldn't say "instinct" so much as it's personality type. Extroverted types, especially feeling types, tend to have a more natural knack for this, but most research shows that personality is mostly dependent on early childhood experience and very little on genetics or "instinct".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 05:09 PM
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Once your wife is back on track and she desires you she want it in her puss pretty much 24/7. BJs to completion are pretty much a period thing and once a month otherwise maybe. Yeah, I was just about to say this. My wife used to not like giving BJs because it "hurts her jaw". Now she doesn't like giving BJs because she gets too turned on and ends up climbing on top of me to ride my dick. If I really just wanted a BJ, she would do it for me, but oral as foreplay is great, and once you know you ca…
/r/askMRP24/11/16 05:02 PM
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The other side of this is that abusive people often project their abusive behaviors on to their victims, so it's just as likely that she's the crazy abusive one. Also, every abusive relationship is a two-way street. Sane, well-adjusted people simply don't stay in relationships with abusive people, they just leave.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/16 03:41 PM
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Of course, higher levels of self-awareness and broader experiences do a lot to help us avoid applying irrational cognitive distortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:32 PM
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The human brain evolved as a heuristic generating machine. All sorts of cognitive processes involve filling in gaps. It's the same way our brains fill in visual gaps from blind spots in our vision. You aren't even aware you're doing it. Projection is just your brain filling in gaps about what you think the other person is thinking/feeling/plotting/etc. There are two basic ways we do this, either by assuming similarity (projection) or by assuming the worst ("othering").
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 02:40 PM
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Because most women are in denial about their natural hypergamy. Most mothers who teach their sons BP fantasy bullshit are really just trying to convince themselves that that's what they want. Intelligent, self-aware women realize their own nature and won't repress it or rationalize it away. Sounds like OP was lucky to be raised by one of these rare creatures.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/16 02:35 PM
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I think the "looks only" crowd falls in to two camps. Bitter incels, often of a non-black minority race, typically Indian or Asian, who blame their lack of success with women on their genes, and want to blame both women and attractive men for their failures. "Naturals" - Attractive men, who have a natural Chad aesthetic. These men usually had positive male role models in their childhood where they learned confidence and an overall masculine attitude and behavior patterns. They don't realize how …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 02:20 PM
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It's ironic, because I feel the same way about women projecting on to men. In reality though, projection is a natural cognitive heuristic. Everyone projects, and it can be hard to tell you're doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 02:12 PM
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DO NOT BRAG ABOUT IT Don't brag about sex at all, not just because your friends might turn on you, but because if she finds out you've been telling people how much of a slut she is, she probably will accuse you of raping her. I'm pretty sure that's what happened to the guy in the OP. He was calling her friends telling them that he'd banged her in the toilet. That's why she made up the rape story, to save face, because "I'm not a slut!" When you hook up with a girl, especially if it's something l…
/r/TheRedPill24/11/16 12:22 AM
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And I'm pretty sure even in this case she wouldn't have accused him of rape if he wasn't going around calling all her friends telling them about banging her. Honestly, that's pretty creepy.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/16 12:13 AM
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Who cares? It could be anything. The fact that she even has an ulterior motive should be enough.
/r/askTRP23/11/16 11:11 PM
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That's called gaslighting, and it's a serious red flag.
/r/askTRP23/11/16 10:58 PM
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Which laws have changed in the past 5 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 10:26 PM
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If you're unwilling to have an abortion in the event of an accidental pregnancy, perhaps you should refrain from having sex with men who haven't expressed their commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 09:14 PM
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Do you think there are things the state shouldn't take care of for people? Or should the state pay for anything people do that they can't afford?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 06:25 PM
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Either way, it's not a good reason to obligate men to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 06:01 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 05:38 PM
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If you can't afford $400, you definitely can't afford to be pregnant, let alone have a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 05:38 PM
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TRP will never become the dominant ideology. It's actually very fringe. Odds are you will never actually meet a TRPer in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 05:13 PM
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What do people like that do when their car needs repair? Or their cell phone breaks? $400 is pretty cheap in comparison to other comparatively less serious life issues. I'm sure most people have friends and family they can borrow some money from. Besides, what do people normally do when they get pregnant? Most poor people have no insurance or have fairly high deductibles, and you'll still need to see an OB and they'll do ultrasounds, blood tests, etc, not once, but multiple times throughout the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 05:03 PM
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Well, if you're expecting some kind of academic source, I don't think there is any. It's a belief that he holds, probably based on life experience, observation, and a priori reasoning. A lack of peer reviewed, published research is not enough to dismiss his point out of hand. Edit: my point was that what he describes does happen, and it's not nearly so rare as people here might like to believe. As for how often this particular mentality is the cause of single motherhood, we can't say for sure, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:45 PM
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I didn't say that. I think she represents the kind of mentality the previous commenter was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:32 PM
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This is a pretty contentious issue on MRP which is why I set up /r/RedPillNonMonogamy. It's not very active, but there are quite a few guys there and most posts get at least a few helpful responses. I've also put some relevant content on the sidebar if you want to check that out.
/r/askMRP21/11/16 01:44 PM
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Heh, thanks for the plug. Most guys here are not equipped to deal with the day to day of both spinning plates, leading an LTR and keeping it all together. Pimpin ain't easy. It can be a bit exhausting at times, but if you want to keep multiple women around, you can never let your exhaustion show. The moment you don't have the energy to deal with their emotional shitshows is the moment you'll lose it all.
/r/askMRP21/11/16 01:39 PM
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The distinction is that while women do have essentially endless sexual opportunity, the reality is that most men suck, not only in general, but also specifically in the sack. The hard part for women isn't finding dick, it's finding good dick, especially good dick that happens to be attached to attractive men who won't spread rumors about her being a slut. If you're attractive, have good game, and know how to lay pipe, you'd be surprised how many women will wait patiently at home for you while yo…
/r/askMRP21/11/16 01:36 PM
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There's no such thing as accidental motherhood. In <current year>, motherhood is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:06 PM
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My wife's sister. She's openly admitted it to her family (but not her husband).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:05 PM
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The abortion pill is $400 and readily available in most areas, or at least a road trip away. Hell of a lot cheaper than being pregnant for 9 months, let alone having a baby and raising it for 18-25 years. Edit: if you're going to downvote, at least explain what you disagree with and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:04 PM
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That's not how child support works. It's not a tax, so tax evasion tactics wouldn't work. Child support payments are decided on in advance and switching up your tax structure won't change that. Hell, even if you lose your job, you're still obligated to make your payments. I know men who's child support obligations exceed their income despite working multiple jobs. The court ordered payment schedule is not based on "taxable income" or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:02 PM
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It's a basic minimization tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:59 PM
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If it happened 5 years ago, what makes you think anything has changed to prevent it from happening again? How is "omg that's like sooo 5 years ago" an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:56 PM
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A man has no right to expect that a woman would have or not have an abortion. No one is saying the man should have a right to force her to have an abortion. But he should have the right to not be obligated to support her. Since she has the option to abort, if she chooses not to knowing that he won't support he, then she is choosing to be a single mother without his financial support. Under current law, she effectively has the right to force him to provide for her, despite the fact that she could…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:55 PM
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Men, like woman, can choose who they have sex with, choices have consequences. Right, and motherhood is a choice. While there is such a thing as accidental pregnancy, there is no such thing as accidental motherhood. There are plenty of options once a woman realizes she's pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:50 PM
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Ok, so you meant most men try to please women and you are contrary to that? Maybe I misinterpreted your last comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 04:28 PM
1

And how's that working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 03:48 PM
1

DiCarlo Yep, that's one of the most popular ones. There are a lot of simpler systems out there too.
/r/seduction19/11/16 08:14 PM
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Search for "PUA escalation ladder". There are a bunch of different systems, some more specific than others. Find one that sounds like something you'd be able to remember and follow. Also, Mystery Method has some nice specific systems to follow. Mystery is an aspie, so he's had to come up with highly specific, systematic ways of escalating kino, so it works great for analytical guys.
/r/seduction19/11/16 06:19 PM
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Girls do want to have fun... queue music
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 05:24 PM
1

Why men can't say no to women (part 2)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 04:26 PM
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Oh definitely, there is a right way to pull off that kind of "strong/quiet" game. Again, nuance and subtlety. What I meant was more like a lot of guys who think any kind of expressiveness is beta or that they need to be super serious all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 04:21 PM
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I think FB suggests friends if they've searched for you before. Those ONS's probably tried to look you up after hooking up with you.
/r/askTRP19/11/16 03:23 PM
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No. In fact, that's why we have an anger phase. Disillusioned hopeless romantics who either had their heart broken or did everything "right" (according to the Nice Guy fantasy) only to end up foreveralone. It's right there in the sidebar, men are the true romantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:57 AM
2

Median ≠ mean
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:48 AM
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Don't listen to that guy, I thought it was a good post. A bit "basic", but I think those basics get lost on here a lot, and sometimes we all need a bit of a reminder. I personally needed a bit of a refreshed on this myself, I've been in a bit of a slump the past month or so and I've definitely been over-thinking my interactions with women a bit too much. So, I for one, appreciate what you've wrote.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 05:16 PM
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WTF? This is one of the most positive and upbeat posts I've seen on here in a while. Where is the "anger" in this post? Seriously, this is the post that makes you give up on TRP?
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 05:13 PM
2

What did I take out of context?
/r/askTRP18/11/16 04:37 PM
2

Guys like this.
/r/askTRP18/11/16 01:52 PM
0

Don't be a bro-knight
/r/askTRP18/11/16 01:15 PM
2

I would say usually it could go either way depending on how the guy handles it. She leaves it ambiguous as much for her own sake as anything rise, because then she can rationalize it either way after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:01 PM
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A lot of angry, depressed and disillusioned guys on TRP. Guys who have been burned by failed relationships. It can be reality shattering experience.
/r/seduction17/11/16 10:59 PM
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Pretty sure you're the one who needs to brush up on the sidebar. https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/women-want-you-to-cheat/
/r/askTRP17/11/16 10:46 PM
5

Win/win
/r/askTRP17/11/16 10:44 PM
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Do it. Don't get caught. Jesus, what happened to TRP? Where did all these fedora-tipping white knights come from?
/r/askTRP17/11/16 10:30 PM
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What it means, your gf/wife isn't your mother. You even answered your own question. If you have to "work to maintain intimacy and interest" then it's not unconditional. Edit: This isn't a bad thing. It's just that a lot of naive guys believe in some kind of two-dimensional fantasy where the only thing women want is commitment and "love" and think they don't have to do things like stay attractive, do fun things with her, flirt with and Game her, etc, etc. These guys think "happily ever after" jus…
/r/seduction17/11/16 10:20 PM
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Well, there's also the fact that the way women show interest is subtle and always leaves a little wiggle room for plausible deniability. Socially inept guys either don't know what to look for, or even if they do pick up on what "might" be a sign of her interest, their own insecurities and/or fear of being "rude" or whatever will keep them from acting on all but the most blunt, unambiguous signs. Source: throughout my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:10 PM
5

Well, there's a lot of nuance, subtlety, context, etc, that gets glossed over. I see it all the time on TRP and MRP. For example, a lot of guys talk about being "a boss" and other guys interpret that to mean "boss her around" instead of just having a confident but casual "I'm a fuckin boss" demeanor. Another example is a lot of guys advise smiling less, and it's true that socially awkward Nice Guys walk around with a goofy, eager-to-please, toothy smile on their face, but it doesn't mean you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:00 PM
5

All the talk about "dad bod" is a great example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:53 PM
1

have my own life outside of her (martial arts) While having a hobby and physical activity is important, it's not what we usually mean when we say "have a life outside of her". Do you have a social life outside of her? Friends, etc? A bar you're a regular at? Anything like that?
/r/askMRP17/11/16 09:24 PM
1

I've been reading TRP for 3 years. If someone on TRP said something about pre-teen girls, they were way out of line. It's definitely not something TRP endorses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:01 PM
1

Right. So why not take the necessary actions to avoid the fight, and enjoy the consequence of not being seriously injured?
/r/askTRP17/11/16 08:58 PM
5

Always = "happened to me once and I'm still bitter about it."
/r/askTRP17/11/16 08:04 PM
1

Riiight. You do you boo.
/r/askTRP17/11/16 07:57 PM
1

It could mean you're ugly. It could mean you just have bad pictures (photo quality makes a huge difference). It could mean your profile is boring. It could mean your text game sucks. It could mean anything. Some of these things can be fixed. Personally, I get almost no luck online, but I get plenty of girls interested in me IRL. If you have game but aren't 8+ in looks, you'll be better off with live pickup.
/r/seduction17/11/16 07:54 PM
1

Yeah, saw that further down in the comments... I would definitely go to the police with this. Communicating a threat + conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder is serious shit.
/r/askTRP17/11/16 07:45 PM
0

You've obviously never been in a serious fight, especially with multiple attackers. He could easily end up in the hospital, with possibly lasting/chronic injuries, or worse. Not worth it, ever. OP was a shitty friend, but that's no reason to welcome serious injury.
/r/askTRP17/11/16 07:19 PM
1

I have already apologized to him. What did he say?
/r/askTRP17/11/16 07:14 PM
5

Work, pay, serve
/r/MarriedRedPill17/11/16 05:40 PM
4

The fact that you even have to ask is proof of your privilege. Facts and logic are male inventions anyway, you mansplaining shitlord!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 05:06 PM
1

including girls under 18. Where? I've never heard that on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:41 AM
2

What is "the culture" if not what the people in that culture do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:36 AM
3

The only reason to capitulate to her is because you're afraid of losing her. Don't be. You're living your life and she's living hers. You aren't keeping her, but you welcome her to stick around if she wants.
/r/askTRP17/11/16 11:23 AM
0

Then you can tell us why there's no place in RP for a LTR. That's not what I meant. Admittedly, it was late and I didn't do a good job of explaining myself. My point was that the original comment seems to morally pontificate the terms of another man's relationship status, implying that if he was a "Good" guy, he would be "loyal". But why should every LTR be monogamous? Then you can post that over at Rollo Tomassi's place; put his marriage on trial. Why would I do that? I'm married myself. We hav…
/r/askTRP17/11/16 11:17 AM
4

It really is that simple. People way over think this shit.
/r/askTRP17/11/16 04:22 AM
-4

GTFO. This isn't the place for your white knighting tradcon shit.
/r/askTRP17/11/16 04:21 AM
1

So... Still don't see how it's relevant here... Do you think TRP advocates this or something? Or is this just some random side point about how sexual abuse of minors is a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:20 AM
1

Well, you weren't very clear in your post. Edit: so, what does this have to do with TRP/PPD? It's not like anyone is advocating for pre-teen marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:32 AM
11

Yes.
/r/askTRP17/11/16 12:17 AM
1

I never said that was the reason for the recovery, but it is a counter-example to OP's thesis that she difference at marriage necessarily leads to a country suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:15 AM
1

Well, at least you got it off your chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:29 PM
2

Oh. Ok...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:14 PM
3

Why bring up something in reply to my comment that no one is even talking about? Yes, marrying off pre-teen girls is wrong. But it's not relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:08 PM
-1

History class.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:06 PM
2

I don't think that's what OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:04 PM
3

Oh. What does that have to do with TRP/PPD? Edit: the only time OP mentions an actual age, she says "under 25" so I don't think that's what she meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:01 PM
8

Post-WWII Germany disagrees. The age ratio was something like 18yo women marrying 40yo men. Today Germany is a world power with one of the strongest economies in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 10:09 PM
4

Even simpler: "which one?"
/r/askTRP16/11/16 02:43 PM
6

Why not just be polyamorous/open? If she's so tolerant about your cheating, why wouldn't she just accept you just being open about it?
/r/TheRedPill15/11/16 07:18 PM
1

That's not how bipolar works... Are you sure you aren't thinking of borderline personality disorder?
/r/askTRP15/11/16 07:09 PM
3

Pretty much don't be this guy.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/16 04:52 PM
1

He's given her gifts, she just wants more. The fact that this is happening around the same time the sex is drying up means she's losing attraction for him and is trying to "save the relationship" by getting something else out of it, i.e, resources. She can't manage her own money and instead of fixing that, she assumes she can just have some guy give her money.
/r/askTRP15/11/16 04:48 PM
0

Man up and be a good little BB? Fuck that. When you're AF, women will buy you things.
/r/askTRP15/11/16 04:36 PM
1

Oh, I definitely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 12:53 AM
4

I would never accuse someone of virtue-signaling just to dismiss them, because doing that would be bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 07:02 PM
1

I would say the point isn't to go out of your way to end it "bad", just end it, and don't feel compelled to sit around and explain your decision, because that would be entering her frame. Just end it, give vague reasons like "I just don't think this is working out" or whatever, and be done with it.
/r/askTRP14/11/16 03:41 PM
3

Just sounds like you're trying too hard to micromanage your image with one specific thing. If you want girls to talk about you in ways that get other girls to want you, just get really good in bed and manage your image in your social circle with your overall attitude. Don't over think this one specific thing.
/r/askTRP14/11/16 03:35 PM
4

Nothing wrong with seeing prostitutes, but don't ever tell anyone IRL about it. Also, I don't know about the laws in the UK, do some research, and be careful.
/r/askTRP14/11/16 03:29 PM
3

You think your SMV depends in any significant way on how you ended your last relationship? You're going to rely on one girls rumors about you to boost your SMV?
/r/askTRP14/11/16 03:27 PM
5

Can confirm 90% of this, except in my area, the burlesque scene is mostly the leftover 30-somethings from their highschool "goth" scene who never grew out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 03:21 PM
4

WTF? If you want to end things, just end them. Why do you care if she becomes a bitter alpha widow? Is this some kind of revenge fantasy?
/r/askTRP14/11/16 03:10 PM
1

Just curious, /u/EliteSpartanRanger , what would the implications be if the partners were married and already had kids? I.e., a married couple with 2 kids, wife wants a 3rd but husband doesn't, so wife stops taking her BC pills without telling him and gets pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:52 PM
1

Off topic, but I'm just curious... what is your flair supposed to mean? What is "the 215"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:50 PM
1

Can you explain this concept of white/black boxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:45 PM
4

Yep. Pretty much this.
/r/askMRP14/11/16 02:35 PM
1

WWWHHHYYYY?!?>!?!?!? I don't think I'm going to be able to sleep for at least a week now. Thanks for that...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 01:35 PM
1

Maybe we need more specifics. Maybe write up an FR of a specific interaction along with some more specific details about you and him, i.e., physical size and overall appearance.
/r/askTRP14/11/16 01:21 PM
1

I think you're just getting defensive over "blue pill". I'm not talking about your silly sub. I'm talking about this. And I didn't use the word "brainwashing", OP did, I even said "(although "brainwashing" isn't really the right word)".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 01:05 PM
2

You write like an aspie, or at least an INTP/J. I understand what you mean, I guess I just differ in what I enjoy in people.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/16 11:18 PM
10

A lot of the TRP vanguards and founders are married. Rollo is married. /u/archwinger is married. Ian Ironwood is married. Nothing inherently BP about marriage. The difference is in the vetting process, and the overall frame of the marriage. TRP cautions against marriage because of the legal issues, and the fact that most men just settle for marrying the first girl who's willing to touch his penis and hasn't left him yet. That's the basis of plate theory; to establish a genuine abundance with wom…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/16 02:29 PM
0

The point isn't that you need those things from people in order to be valuable, but that most people desire those things in order to be fulfilled. Sure, some people desire camaraderie more than others, it's a function of how introverted or extroverted you are. No one is saying you need camaraderie or companionship in order to feel valuable, but human beings are social creatures and most do crave some amount of connection with others. There's nothing wrong with this as long as you aren't sacrific…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/16 02:22 PM
18

This here. Once you reach the acceptance phase and you've integrated some basic game in to your natural interactions with women, they can be a lot of fun to be around. You just learn that they aren't usually going to provide you with the in-depth, intellectual, shop-talk kind of companionship you get from your bros, but instead are good for just having fun and letting loose. After all, girls just wanna have fun. And as long as you keep in mind what women are, and keep it lighthearted and casual,…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/16 02:15 PM
2

It's embarrassing because you got caught by your family not because you do it. Same as there's no shame in using the bathroom but you get embarrassed if someone walks in. Right, and if you were to accidentally walk in on your son using the bathroom, you wouldn't awkwardly try to pretend like you don't see him there, you would just say "oops, sorry" and close the door. The difference is that going to the bathroom isn't socially controversial, so there's no need to make it clear to him that it's o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 02:04 PM
1

It does still affect me subconsciously. It took a lot of work to (mostly) resolve it to the point that I can actually have comfortable conversations with women about sex without feeling super weird or using a lot of awkward euphemisms and "ya know"s. My wife and I have an open marriage now, so I had to do a lot of deep mental work to get to the point where I can hit on women without being too coy or passive, while also not over-compensating and being creepy or pushy. The PUA community did me a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:55 PM
1

I suspect that still sends the message that it's something embarrassing or shameful. Maybe an "oops, sorry" and walk away, then talk to him about it later to let him know it's ok and that he can talk to you about it comfortably without judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:47 PM
1

Huh? Beta bux is what TRP is trying not to be. The beta bux is viewed as a chump. So it's not "all a mix".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:41 PM
1

Neither of those things are TRP ideas. Those are the beliefs of what TRP calls "beta bux".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:53 AM
8

Whatever you do, don't get defensive. He sounds like a petty narcissist. People like that thrive on people's negative reactions and any sign of weakness will only fuel him further. The funny thing about people like that is they're just as transparent to everyone else. I'm sure everyone sees how petty and insecure he comes off, even if just subconsciously. The fact that someone came to you and told you about him spreading rumors about you shows that they see through it too. If people took him ser…
/r/askTRP12/11/16 06:00 PM
2

Yeah, I actually came back here this morning to update my comment with something to this effect. Even the most well-intentioned mother isn't going to be able to really understand what their sons are experiencing. Women just don't understand how male brains work. I think Louis CK sums it up perfectly here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 04:06 PM
3

As /u/GroovyEFS already pointed out, I didn't post the OP. But it is "blue pill brainwashing" (although "brainwashing" isn't really the right word). The problem is you're thinking of "blue pill" as a "side", or as a specific belief system or something. But, the concept of the blue pill means exactly "parents & society in general". It's not like this is a matter of liberal vs conservative, where you have a fairly even split between two sides. The blue pill represents the widely accepted social no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 03:13 PM
4

This isn't a "pill" thing. It's not some kind of all-or-nothing us-vs-them thing. I'm just explaining what my experience was, and what I know was the experience of a lot of boys. I'm all in favor of sex ed. But there is also a large part of society that opposes it. And it's usually the prudish religious nuts, the same people who shame everything regarding sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 07:47 AM
3

Sure mothers can. I just think it's usually best coming from fathers. You have a weird idea of men...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 07:40 AM
4

Actually, I do think this is a very important subject. I really do wish I had more to contribute. It might be worthwhile to make a discussion post about this in your preferred RPW sub, and/or /r/redpillparenting or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:47 AM
1

I wish you luck in finding resources that can help you achieve that. I don't envy parents having to navigate that tightrope, hence why I don't have kids! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:42 AM
5

I wish I knew. I think sons need to see their fathers being affectionate towards their mothers. Not saying they should have sex in front of the boy, but don't get all stiff around him as if they're just some androgynous caretakers. And when they catch the boy playing with his penis, or looking at mommy's underwear catalog (idk, what do boys look at these days? I guess just the internet... I used to watch Skinnimax in scramblevision hoping to catch a discolored squiggly boob shrug) instead of fli…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:27 AM
2

I think both extremes can result in a lot of problems. I think a rational acceptance of the fact that the boy is going to experience a lot confusing feelings, and that that's ok, would be a good start. As I said in another comment, I don't have kids, and I don't plan on it. All I can do is tell you what I experienced, and what I know a lot of other guys also experienced as a boy, and I can tell you that it's caused a lot of psychological damage. It's a big part of where the "blue pill" mentality…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:20 AM
7

I would say that's a step in the right direction. I don't know, I don't have kids, and I'm not a child psychologist, so I don't know what the RightTM way to do it is. All I can say is what my experience was, and what the experience of a lot of boys was, and that it definitely did a lot of harm to men's mental health. My parents aren't bad people, they just had bad ideas. Who knows where they got them (although, obviously conservative religious ideas played a significant role). Edit: However, I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:13 AM
8

Then, yes, at a minimum they become "out of touch" with their sexuality. At worst, they begin to loath it, and feel extreme shame and resentment towards it. I remember feeling so deeply ashamed of my sexual thoughts that I seriously considered chopping off my own penis and testicles. At <14! And I was a minor case. There are a lot of boys raised with much harsher shame and oppression from parents and/or teachers/pastors/etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:08 AM
8

Well, I would say grow up and learn how to be comfortable with reality. For your kids' sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:04 AM
3

You're still operating under the premise that it's best to teach kids that sex is bad... You're trading the fear of direct punishment for the fear of indirect consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:03 AM
3

Is that a serious question?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:01 AM
11

I'm sure that's the case some times. And that in itself can cause lasting damage. But I also know there are a lot of very prudish, conservative, and sexually oppressive parents too. Either way, it's rare to see the opposite. Edit: also, why would those parents get squeamish? Could it be because they too suffer from a lot of weird social baggage regarding sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:54 AM
6

So, you're saying she plays petty mind games with you to validate herself and the expense of your own mental health?
/r/askTRP12/11/16 12:46 AM
25

It starts with erection suppression, something I very clearly remember experiencing as a kid. Boys caught looking at underwear models (or, more modernly, just looking up porn on the internet) are chastised instead of patiently taught about their sexuality and desires. Men are taught to not look at women sexually. And when they succeed in suppressing their sexual desires, they become the vilified Nice Guy, treating every women like their own mother, terrified of making so much as a hint of the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:37 AM
9

"Sure! I'll invite a few friends too, we'll have a party."
/r/askTRP11/11/16 11:58 PM
5

Her looking for a fight though is potentially a red flag. This can mean she is feeling guilty about something she did. Yep. This is usually the hamsters way of justifying her own bad behavior so she can retroactively tell herself that you were being a jerk or whatever. Either that, or she's just looking for a catalyst to break up. Or both.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 11:54 PM
30

She likes toying with you. It makes her feel special and powerful to evoke jealousy in men. Stop worrying about it. The fact that you're even posting about it here shows that she's gotten in your head. Put her out of your mind and meet more women.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 11:51 PM
3

True. Mutually celebate penpals is the best case scenario, but what you describe is usually more likely.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 09:25 PM
5

Exactly. LDR = mutually celibate penpals.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 08:36 PM
2

You shoulda coulda woulda dropped this attention whore a long time ago.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 08:35 PM
3

am I being paranoid No, you're just being pathetic. I feel like I've been saying this a lot recently but GO OUTSIDE AND MEET REAL WOMEN. What's with the sudden rash of incels asking about chicks they only know online and have never met? You have oneitis. Read the sidebar. We aren't going to help you dig yourself deeper in to this pit of obsessing over some chick online.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 08:06 PM
2

Some girl in another country that you text with? Whatever man, good luck with that I guess.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 08:00 PM
4

Dude, you're being played. Cut contact and go outside.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 07:23 PM
3

Go fap to erotica elsewhere.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 07:21 PM
1

Yeah, what are you getting out of this? Go outside and meet real women.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 07:08 PM
3

I just wear a bright pink rape whistle around my neck and clutch it along with my pearls every time someone looks at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 06:33 PM
6

texting... for ages Have you even fucked this girl?
/r/askTRP11/11/16 06:27 PM
1

Did you search the old /r/TRPgame sub? There's a lot of text/online game stuff there.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 02:40 PM
1

B-b-b-b-but.... touching girls is creepy!
/r/seduction11/11/16 06:40 AM
1

Assume I'm a psychopath and convince me why I should help you.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 06:38 AM
1

You don't even know fag. I called your mom a bitch soon I wuz born, nigga! I got fitty you ain't sheet. Edit: superfluous "as" removed.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 06:34 AM
16

Deadlifts. Seriously, my wife was very explicit in how much my fuck game has improved since I started doing deadlifts.
/r/askTRP11/11/16 06:23 AM
1

If people don't like the idea of "approaching" they're in the wrong sub.
/r/seduction10/11/16 10:45 PM
1

Yeah, that would have been important to mention in the OP. Have you looked in to narcissistic personality disorder?
/r/askTRP10/11/16 05:39 PM
1

BPDs are definitely capable of physical violence. But either way, it's not really relevant. There's a lot of overlap and comorbidities, and neither of us are qualified to make specific diagnoses, especially not over the internet based on a second-hand account. The point is, she is definitely highly disturbed.
/r/askTRP10/11/16 02:31 PM
1

I'm sorry you're getting so much flak over this. You're absolutely right. Keyboard warriors caught up in a two-dimensional romantic fantasy will always balk at anything that violates it.
/r/seduction10/11/16 01:56 PM
9

Well, kind of... Women get flirted with all the time, and most of them will passively enjoy the attention.
/r/seduction10/11/16 01:48 PM
1

Also, here are a few good videos on depression and loneliness: Depression, The Secret We Share Louis CK - Embrace Your Loneliness
/r/askTRP10/11/16 12:28 PM
1

Alright man, here's a few good Youtube channels: Actualized.org Family Tree Counseling - 50 Signs of Narcissistic Abuse Syndrome (Narcissistic abuse is very similar to BPD abuse, so anything you find on narcissism should be mostly applicable) Spartan Life Coach
/r/askTRP10/11/16 12:02 PM
8

So, you want an easy fix. I'm going to be honest, it's not going to happen. The best you can do is hire a hooker (which might be a good idea actually). But no matter what, you're going to have to face this head-on. It's going to be the hardest thing you've ever done in your life, but you can do it. Take it one day at a time. Go for walks outside (I don't care if it's cold out, bundle up and get outside!) Sign up for a gym and start lifting heavy weights. Google stronglifts 5x5. Don't beat yourse…
/r/askTRP10/11/16 12:33 AM
5

Ignoring it is fine, but if you want to have some fun with it, comment on something in the picture other than her. The classic PUA line is "bad lighting" which still works, but you can say something like "that towel isn't your color" or "how small is your bathroom?" or whatever else. Whatever you do, don't act like you've never seen cleavage before and get all "omg i lik boobies send moar!!" Edit: also, whatever you do, never send dick pics, even if she asks! It's a shit test. If she asks for na…
/r/seduction10/11/16 12:24 AM
28

I remember that so clearly. Finding excuses to not stand up so I could wait for my boner to go away. I actually started developing a sort of meditation technique to get rid of boners. The embarrassment and shame was real. I was so indoctrinated in the shame that I would even make sure that whenever I was standing my penis wasn't even "pointing" in a girl's direction because I didn't want to be threatening or whatever (threatening isn't even the right word, I don't even know what it was, just gen…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/16 12:15 AM
7

Listen man. Why are you here? What do you want us to say? You admit yourself that she's abusive, and that it's seriously impacted your health. Do you just want me to say "yeah, I'm sure she'll be back, and everything will be OK"? Go back and re-read your post and comments. She is toxic and she's slowly killing you.
/r/askTRP10/11/16 12:08 AM
8

No dude. This is all classic BPD. The threats, lying to police to get you in trouble, isolating you, and then the abandonment. I know this hurts, but she doesn't love you. She doesn't even recognize you as a person. You're just a phantom she uses to project her own distorted perceptions on. I'm on mobile right now, but as soon as I get home and on my computer, I'll hook you up with loads of good information and resources to help you through this.
/r/askTRP09/11/16 10:53 PM
11

Damn bro. You need to completely cut her out of your life, cold turkey, no contact. This sounds like textbook BPD (borderline personality disorder, look it up and learn about it). From now on, any contact she tries to make with you, you record, and ignore if possible. If shows up at your home or work, immediately start recording video with your phone. Women like this are experts at manipulating the legal system. In the mean, find yourself a good (preferably male) therapist who has experience dea…
/r/askTRP09/11/16 10:42 PM
18

Your wife sent you some hamster food article about how haaaarrrd it is to be a mother and you think the only way to handle it is to send her some different article that she probably won't read? This article is shit and it's completely irrelevant. Playing stupid tit for tat games with your ex-wife? Dude, grow a pair. If you want to reduce your child support, talk to your lawyer, don't negotiate it with her, of course she isn't going to just let you pay her less because you agreed to read some stu…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/16 10:29 PM
2

Get a hotel.
/r/askMRP09/11/16 08:58 PM
1

I'm objectively about a 6.5-7. Girls approach me because I make myself the life of the party. I'm befriending everyone, moving around, I carry myself with calm confidence, etc. I demonstrate self-amusing outcome independence, I'm not afraid to speak my mind openly and I carry a lot of energy in to my interactions with the people there. When a girl I'm attracted to enters the scene, she's already a part of my world. I playfully tease her like I would my little sister. I don't start "hitting" on h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 05:32 PM
2

Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 05:12 PM
7

So? That doesn't automatically obligate you to commit to her.
/r/askTRP09/11/16 03:19 PM
1

Why did I read this comment to the tune of Stayin Alive?
/r/TheRedPill09/11/16 03:06 PM
0

Meanwhile in /r/The_Donald The only woman so unsexy she can't even sell beer. Frankly I would need a LOT of beer to be attracted to her.
/r/seduction09/11/16 03:00 PM
4

I game everyone. It's more than just trying to get in a girl's pants, it's social calibration and finesse.
/r/seduction09/11/16 02:56 PM
2

Some women love way older men, just saying. You're right, but I'm picturing something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 02:26 PM
1

PMs are creepy because: Text lacks emotional context and people tend to assume the worst possible tone when reading text out of context The internet is by definition nerdy and nerdy guys expressing sexual intent is creepy A guy who PMs some random person on reddit as soon as they find out they're female, demonstrates low social value because they're so desperate for female attention that they'll hit up any random woman they don't even know hoping to get lucky In the real world, most women apprec…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 01:50 PM
5

There's a very clear difference. LMR is being coy, hesitant or unsure about letting things escalate physically over the course of a single interaction. And TRP doesn't tell men to "ignore" it, they tell men to calibrate, back down when they feel her tensing up or pulling back, and to act nonchalant about it, keep talking without acting weird or awkward, and try again after warming her up some more with lighthearted conversation. That's hardly "ignoring" LMR. As for "nexting", that's for things l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 01:40 PM
2

Again, can't disagree with you there. I just suspect that we would disagree on what those universal attributes are, at least based on our "pill" affiliations. Or are you one of those BPers who agrees with TRP on what women find attractive, but have some other objection to TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 01:28 PM
4

It was a serious struggle, but you have to struggle to pull out of it or you never will. Or, at least I knew I had to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 01:25 PM
1

The way people play games also reflects on how they solve problems in real life. An manipulative person might take the charismatic assassin class because both rely on tricks and persuasion. While I do think this is true a lot of the time, I also know the inverse to be true in some cases. For example, I had a friend who was skinny, meek, somewhat feminine and had a passive-aggressive streak, but he would always play hulking barbarians and had a very aggressive, brute-force play style. In a way, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 01:19 PM
1

I'm definitely a Johnny in MtG as well as most games. I dislike games where there are clear imbalances that favor linear, predictable ways of winning, and I don't like playing pre-designed decks no matter how consistently they win a match. With the said, in RPGs I usually play magic-based classes, not so much for the potential for massive damage, but more so because they tend to have the most complex game mechanics that allow for creative play. For example, if possible, I like to do things like …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 01:15 PM
3

I'm not here to brag or elicit your congratulations. It wasn't always that way for me, I've worked very hard to become who I am today. It took a lot of introspection, study, over-coming all kind of anxieties and it even induced periods of crippling depression. I'm just saying, Tinder doesn't disprove OP's point, it's not at all the same as real-life interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 01:02 PM
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Like everything else here on TRP, there is a degree of nuance that needs to be understood. I've definitely had similar experiences, some of the closest friends I've ever had I either actually got in to a fight with, or almost. That feeling after the fight where you can laugh it off afterwords, and build an even stronger bond because of it, is very real. But that doesn't mean we should all become reckless roughnecks running around picking fights with everyone. There is a time and a place where it…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/16 12:58 PM
2

I have virtually zero success online, but in person, I have women approaching me because I'm fun, carefree and social.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 12:34 PM
3

Can't CYV. Although, I'm willing to bet we would disagree on what kind of character and personality traits are attractive in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 12:32 PM
7

"Nice nose" "I used to have a shirt just like that in highschool!" "Eat any good books recently?" "I bet you swallow."
/r/seduction09/11/16 02:14 AM
1

Then you need to up your pimp game. If you can pull off a slick cad attitude, a lot of chicks won't care.
/r/askTRP08/11/16 11:08 PM
1

Just don't tell them you're in a relationship. If you're just looking for hookups anyway, it's not really relevant because you're not looking for a relationship anyway. If a girl asks direct questions about your relationship status, treat it like a shit test. Say something like "Yeah, I'm married to my work", or "I think my dog is in love with me, dies that count?" or just look exaggeratedly thoughtful and start counting on your fingers. But really, if a girl is asking about your relationship st…
/r/askTRP08/11/16 10:17 PM
8

A dowsing rod.
/r/seduction08/11/16 10:02 PM
2

It's just an automod that removes all posts that link to reddit. It's been that way for at least a year now. Just repost with the links edited out of replaced with archive.today links.
/r/askTRP08/11/16 09:57 PM
4

Which one of the 48 laws of power says "complain about how unfairly you're being treated and sling petty insults at everyone who disagrees with you"?
/r/TheRedPill08/11/16 08:32 PM
2

I agree. I don't understand why some RPers like him. But I don't think it's universal in TRP. I've openly criticized Trump on TRP and been upvoted. Edit: funny enough, someone posted on TRP saying they want Trump to win. The top comment spells out exactly why Trump isn't RP, and the OP got deleted: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5buynp/why_i_hope_trump_wins/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 05:49 PM
6

Hard to imagine a single issue causing you to switch to someone so radically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 04:56 PM
13

Gary Johnson. The only reasonable choice. I know he won't win. It's one part protest vote, and one part pragmatic because the more votes he gets, the more states the party will be awarded automatic ballot access.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 03:01 PM
6

Voting third party is a protest vote. The non-voters win almost every election, but it's never reported. If a third party gets double digits, that would news, and would send a powerful message. Not voting because your candidate "can't" win is exactly the reason they won't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 02:58 PM
2

Date multiple women at a time so you can spread your affection around to avoid giving each one too much.
/r/askTRP08/11/16 12:58 PM
2

I give OP 8/10 though, not bad.
/r/seduction08/11/16 12:53 PM
1

Have you ever listened to the Black Phillip Show with Patrice O'Neal? If not, I highly recommend it. In one episode he's talking about convincing his girlfriend to let him bring another girl home for a threesome. His gf agreed to it at first, but then flipped out when he told her he met a girl that's down for it. Patrice talks about how a man needs to be "patient with his logic" and guide her through it. This is an important aspect of game. Managing her emotions with your logical conversation in…
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/16 12:41 PM
1

Let's amend the astronaut example. You assume he drops out. But let's instead assume he doesn't drop out, but follows through. He does his best, but he's rejected as a candidate for whatever reason. So he settles for another job he doesn't like very much, works there for a while a changes jobs. He cycles through jobs looking for one he likes, but none of them are fulfilling. Following your reasoning, he didn't "really" want to be an astronaut, but instead secretly wanted to go from one unfulfill…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:52 PM
1

Just to be clear, I do have a wife. I'm talking about the men you reference in your OP. No, but in this case the option is open to RP men and they just chose not to take it. For someone who is hideous and can't get any woman, of course it's a different story. You can get women though. You just don't want to LTR any of them. And for some reason you refuse to take ownership over this decision. These guys aren't refusing to take "ownership", you're just getting to twist it around to imply they neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:49 PM
1

You seem to have a very black-and-white view. Did you watch The Secret and take it all at face value or something? Do you think that everything that happens in a person's life happened because it's what they truly wanted? Is it not possible that people often have to settle with less desirable choices in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:10 PM
1

Do you think your behavior has no bearing whatsoever on your success or failure? What's your usual approach to getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:02 PM
2

Because you hate women, obviously. Just admit it already, jeez!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 08:47 PM
3

If most men were abusive slobs, and women said they wish they could find a good guy to marry, but since they can't, they keep dating around, would you accuse them of not taking responsibility and secretly just wanting an excuse to be sluts because they obviously didn't really want to marry a good guy in the first place? Because that would be an apt analogy, not your hyperbole about gangbangs. They could not have kids. They could not LTR a woman who makes significantly less than them. They could …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 08:40 PM
2

From your OP: but it's impossible to find a good woman So, men can either settle for women who aren't good long term partners, or they secretly just wanted an excuse to sleep around? Being disillusioned from your dreams doesn't mean you never wanted them. This isn't a problem with men not owning their shit, it's an unfortunate reality that a lot of men must come to terms with. That's why the anger phase is so common. Men who were told all they have to do is be nice and provide security and comfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 07:51 PM
1

Do whatever you want to do. Why would you need our approval?
/r/askTRP07/11/16 07:15 PM
3

Pimpin' ain't easy.
/r/askTRP07/11/16 07:08 PM
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If a person has one preference, but then realizes it's not possible, and so begrudgingly chooses an alternative that has undesirable aspects, you can't just accuse them of "wanting" the alternative. If a boy dreams of becoming an astronaut, but ends up working at McDonald's after realizing it's not feasible, would you say he "wanted" to work at McDonald's? Wouldn't TRP agree with me on this anyways? Doesn't TRP believe that men really just want to bang loads of hot young women? No. That would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 06:43 PM
4

I was just curious where his perspective was coming from. If was an unattractive incel it would have bearing on his perspective, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 06:36 PM
3

Dismissing men who say they wanted a wife and family by asserting that they secretly just wanted the hookup culture anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 05:51 PM
1

Do you have sex with women with any amount of regularity?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 05:30 PM
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There's a lot of begging the question in your examples. You might as well be saying RPers aren't owning the fact that we're bad people by virtue of being RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 05:20 PM
1

?
/r/askTRP07/11/16 05:16 PM
1

Do you mind if I ask what you look like? Do you consider yourself more or less attractive than the guy in the video?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 05:11 PM
1

If votes are an indicator of how well someone communicated their point, go back and look at the votes in this thread. Your comments are at 0 or -1 (and no, I didn't downvote any of your comments), while the comments saying you communicated it poorly are at 4, 5 and 6. By your own logic, you failed to communicate clearly in at least this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 03:02 PM
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You're off your rocker. You're so invested in this idea that looks and height are everything that you can't even see the guy objectively. There's nothing middle eastern about this guy. He's practically male model material. You're assessment of his looks is so far off I can only conclude you're delusional in some kind "body dysmorphia by proxy" way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:37 PM
6

Exactly. He's a walking apology.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:21 PM
1

If you're an analytical guy, look up PUA escalation ladders. The DiCarlo ladder is a popular one, but personally I find a bit too complicated. There are a number of them out there. Find one that makes sense to you and that you think you could follow easily. The Mystery Method also has a lot of good info on escalation for analytical guys (Mystery is an aspie so he's had to develop a very structured, analytical system).
/r/askTRP07/11/16 01:14 PM
10

Don't play the monkey dance with toxic people. Ignore him, don't feed his ego by responding in kind to his shit. If he's more of a threat to your reputation or job, document everything he does until you have enough evidence to utterly destroy him and do it through the proper channels.
/r/askTRP07/11/16 12:50 PM
1

One of my top rated comments is "Meh." It doesn't mean shit. Your original comment in question was confusing, and when asked to clarify you got defensive and hostile instead of just explaining what you meant. shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 11:20 PM
1

For someone who doesn't care about their vote count, you sure do talk about it a lot...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:59 PM
0

Well, you didn't give much detail in your OP. I don't know what to tell you other than hotels, etc. Good luck figuring something out bro.
/r/seduction06/11/16 10:48 PM
9

Deadlifts = amazing ass. Bench press = perky tits.
/r/askTRP06/11/16 09:51 PM
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Get a job. Buy a car. Get your own place.
/r/seduction06/11/16 09:50 PM
1

Take the /r/100daysofrejection challenge.
/r/askTRP06/11/16 09:15 PM
1

Because women are fickle. If you want a better answer, make a better post.
/r/askTRP06/11/16 12:26 AM
4

It's a very personal experience for each person who goes through it. I'd recommend seeing a good therapist. Preferably a male therapist, one who focuses on men's issues. Here's a good video on how to find a red pill therapist (obviously you won't actually find a therapist who reads or completely agrees with TRP, but you can find one who's going to understand the kinds of issues men go through without being all caught up in feminist bullshit). In the mean time, as cliche as it sounds, just hang i…
/r/askTRP05/11/16 06:18 PM
1

I've been jerking off almost every day since I was 14 or so, never had any problems. In fact, if I don't, I get extremely horny and distracted all day, random boners while sitting at my desk, restlessness, blue balls, prostate pressure, etc. And I still fuck my wife on a near daily basis, and can still pick up other chicks and fuck them with vigor. If anything, I probably last longer because of it. But that's just me. I have an extremely high sex drive and I don't choke the shit out of my dick. …
/r/askTRP05/11/16 05:15 PM
-1

have a fun My goal for next week is now to find a way to work this phrase in to a conversation. "Let's go have a fun! :D"
/r/seduction05/11/16 05:03 PM
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While it's important to be positive, it's also important to keep one eye on reality to avoid being narcissistic. Sounds to me like OP has a pretty balanced and reasonable perspective.
/r/seduction05/11/16 04:59 PM
2

Bold vs reckless. For the most part, it's unlikely there will be serious consequences, but being mindful of potential consequences is healthy.
/r/askTRP05/11/16 04:51 PM
5

TRP was originally made by and for (quasi-)incels looking to get laid. It sprung out of the PUA/seduction community, and was seeded by successful seducers discussing ideas from their accumulated experience with women. When I first found TRP ~3 years ago, the tone was generally more sex positive, and most of the talk about sluts, AF/BB, etc, was more about understanding the nature of female sexuality for the purpose of being a part of it, instead of lamenting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 04:49 PM
4

No, I think you just did a very poor job of explaining your point or how it's relevant. I re-read your comment several times, and I think I know what you're trying to say. Your sentences and overall structure feels cobbled together. It doesn't seem to clearly link one idea to another. The problem isn't a lack of knowledge with kinks, it's a lack of coherent structure in your writing. My point was that if "no one ever" gets what you're trying to say, maybe it's because you aren't communicating it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 04:11 PM
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You're transitioning from the bargaining phase ("if I can just get good with women and have lots of sex, maybe I'll feel better") to the depression stage ("it's not working, I still feel angry/bitter/resentful/empty/etc"). Going MGTOW is just another last ditch bargaining attempt, and an excuse to wallow in the impending depression. I mean, go for it, go MGTOW, but keep in mind that it's not a real solution, and if you stay in the depression too long, you might not be able to pull out of it. The…
/r/askTRP05/11/16 03:58 PM
4

Not all RPers are conservative. A lot of us don't care about N count and just like have sex with women and aren't unicorn hunting for virgin brides. In fact, I'd say it's a relatively recent trend in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:49 PM
4

Maybe the problem isn't them...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:46 PM
3

Thank you all for this thread.
/r/seduction05/11/16 03:44 PM
3

Well, I can't teach you everything about investing here on reddit. There's plenty of resources out there. All I'm saying is, if that book is telling you to only invest in zero risk investments, it's probably not a good book.
/r/askTRP05/11/16 03:40 PM
3

Don't get so drunk. I know, I have a tendency to do this too, and it can be hard to realize when you're getting to that place before it's too late, but obvious solution is obvious, even if easier said than done. Meditate. This has helped me a lot. But again, it's harder when drunk, but it will still help some. A good therapist who's trained in CBT/DBT can do wonders to untangle your emotional and behavioral baggage.
/r/askTRP05/11/16 03:30 PM
2

Only invest in things where the principle is safe This is a very conservative investment strategy, and it's unlikely you'll make any significant return on these lines of investment above the going rate of interest, which won't keep up with inflation, effectively losing money. Bonds, CDs, etc are very safe, and better than a savings account, but are still the financial equivalent of stuffing cash under your mattress. In general, risk = reward. It's best to diversify in a way that distributes your…
/r/askTRP05/11/16 03:22 PM
6

Personality disorders aren't alpha. Getting all butthurt and tossing around shallow insults at people disagreeing with you is insecure and petty. Trump is a pussy.
/r/TRPOffTopic05/11/16 02:04 AM
1

Post deleted because of embarrassment for obvious stupid question.
/r/askTRP05/11/16 02:01 AM
1

Degrees of the same. The problem is that the human mind is capable all levels of rationalization if not given strong boundaries. And those boundaries are best established in childhood. And statistically, parents enforce stronger boundaries on boys rather than girls. Now, imagine several generations of this effect, and you'll understand the current situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 01:27 AM
1

Right. Everyone has all kinds of various rationalizations for their casual abuse of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 09:17 PM
1

Well, yeah, to put it in simplistic terms. It's not that they're bad people, it's just one of those nuances of consciousness. Consciousness is inherently meta, and rationalization is unconscious meta-consciousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 04:45 PM
1

Sure, if you're lost in your own world and take other people for granted; not in an intentional way, but more like in an unintentionally, self-absorbed, oblivious way. Which is how most people are most of the time. It takes considerable conscious effort and intentional self-awareness to think "this person gave me their lighter, and if I keep it, they won't have one" instead of just "have lighter, light smoke, put lighter in pocket".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 04:36 PM
2

I don't even understand how it's possible to get accidentally pregnant. The same way people "accidentally" steal your lighter, or "accidentally" brake-check someone on the road and get rear-ended and cash the insurance check.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 04:25 PM
2

Firstly, the point about good emotions is more about not making her feel like a slut, or embarrassing her by bragging to your friends about banging her. Half of game is about deftly bypassing her ASD. Secondly, being the dismissive asshole type like in the video does generate good emotions in women. It's strong, reassuring and tingle generating. It's not about stereotypical "positive" emotions like happiness or whatever. It's about strong, compelling emotions that she likes to feel.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/16 04:19 PM
3

Personally, I think we should reduce the amount of government support for a lot of things. Indeed, knowing someone will financially support her obviously influences her decision to continue with the pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:48 PM
3

If I buy a car and can't afford the payments, can I force the dealership to financially support me? Making bad decisions you can't afford should not entitle you to force other people to pay for it. The day after pill is $60, the abortion pill is $350. She has every opportunity to choose not to become a mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:19 PM
1

Well, fair enough. But be warned, the odds are you will eventually cheat on her and it'll cause untold amounts of drama in your life.
/r/askTRP04/11/16 03:16 PM
3

We have to pay for a lot of stupid shit irresponsible people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:15 PM
3

It's not like she doesn't have a choice. She could have chosen to use a condom. She could have chosen to take the day after pill. She could have chosen to take the abortion pill if she waited too long to use the day after pill. She could have chosen to get an education so she could support herself instead of just assuming some guy would come along and financially support her. Jesus, it's 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:10 PM
3

It's not a kid yet, it's a blastocyst. It's her choice to continue the pregnancy or not, why should she be able to force him to financially support her choice to keep it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:04 PM
3

What about the inverse? Wealthy betas get manipulated by women in to getting them pregnant all the time, and no one bats an eye. Why impose strict codes of responsibility on men, but excuse women's bad choice because they "might" have been manipulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:02 PM
2

Teach women to use condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 02:56 PM
2

While there is such a thing as accidental pregnancy, there's no such thing as accidental motherhood. In the 9 months of pregnancy, women have plenty of options to choose not to go through with it. And even after birth, she has the choice to give the child out for adoption. The idea that the man must be held financially responsible assumes the woman had no choice in having and keeping the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 02:53 PM
5

This sub is not a homogenous herd, it's a community of men sharing ideas and experiences. You're confused because you're looking for concrete answers. But there aren't any. Read everything here with a critical mind, experiment with the ideas in your own life, and learn from your experiences.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/16 02:34 PM
1

It's a shit test. My wife flip-flopped on that same issue dozens of times in the 12 years I've been with her. Now we have a completely open relationship. Trust me, you just have to hold frame and be patient with your logic without backing down. She just needs to feel comfortable that it's what you really want and that you aren't doing it to hurt her or to find someone to leave her for. Her trying to jerk you around by changing her mind is a test of your willingness to let women make your decisio…
/r/askTRP04/11/16 12:38 PM
0

The other replies were direct responses to your question(s). You're just upset because no one else will play your stupid little "pop quiz" game and give you the satisfaction of revealing your clever little comeback.
/r/askTRP04/11/16 04:38 AM
2

The others are meek, timid, or don't know how to lead a conversation from "hi". That's the difference.
/r/askTRP04/11/16 04:31 AM
3

What question? Why are you being so evasive about this? Either you already have a discursive answer in mind you want to hear, or you're playing some silly game of "guess what I mean".
/r/askTRP03/11/16 10:04 PM
1

Early on in our relationship she was down for this. Actually, she didn't even want to take part in a threesome, but loved the idea of watching me fuck another girl. That was long ago though, sadly. And let me guess, you were all like "naw baby, I love you, I would never want to do that, you're the only girl I ever want to be with!" Now she says the jealousy will be too much for her Shit test failed.
/r/askTRP03/11/16 09:25 PM
1

For any reason or no reason at all. How should I know? In the end, it doesn't matter. Women are largely passive when it comes to dating, and usually don't even know what they want. Ultimately they just want you to make the decisions and make things happen.
/r/askTRP03/11/16 09:06 PM
3

Any smooth ways to bust through this one? No, move on. I don't know why you're being so defensive when people here are answering your question.
/r/askTRP03/11/16 08:56 PM
2

No. Take the lead. Tell her what you're doing this weekend and invite her along.
/r/askTRP03/11/16 08:12 PM
1

Girlschase.com has a 2 part series on it here http://www.girlschase.com/content/cbt-series-part-i-how-do-cognitive-therapy-yourself http://www.girlschase.com/content/cbt-series-part-ii-how-do-behavior-therapy-yourself
/r/seduction03/11/16 08:11 PM
1

Talk to her in/after class. In person is always better than text.
/r/askTRP03/11/16 06:45 PM
4

Attractive women are almost never truly single. They usually have a waiting list of men they're interested in. Sounds like you're at the top of her list. If you refuse, she'll cross you off and move on to the next guy. She's already looking to replace her current bf. "She's not yours, it's just your turn" cuts both ways.
/r/askTRP03/11/16 05:26 PM
7

Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 05:23 PM
1

Have you considered therapy? Cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) can do wonders for people with anxiety and self-esteem issues.
/r/seduction03/11/16 05:21 PM
3

Yeah, I kick myself for not figuring this out earlier. This is one of those parts of the blue pill that isn't talked about much around here. I was raised by a baby boomer father who preached the "work hard, play hard" mantra over and over.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/16 05:18 PM
1

I'm in my mid-30s and I've been working professional/technical jobs for about 12 years.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/16 05:11 PM
2

Threesomes. If she's as "down" as you say she is, talk to her about having threesomes. There's a lot of literature and videos in the TRP/PUA community on this if you're not sure how to go about it. Shy is fine. Just take her out to your social events and lead her around. If she trusts your leadership and feels comfortable just hanging off your arm, she'll be fine. Don't expect your girl to fulfill all your social needs, but invite her along with that "alpha comfort" that you'll handle the extrov…
/r/askTRP03/11/16 05:07 PM
11

I used to think being successful at work was about working hard and getting shit done. That's bullshit. It's all about how people feel about you. I let my last job completely burn me out, because I worked hard but didn't make an impression on anyone. People would bad mouth me behind my back and criticized my work. At my current job, I slack off most of the time, but I socialize, speak up in meetings, give coworkers an enthusiastic "good morning" (calibrating for the grumpy not-a-morning-person p…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/16 04:54 PM
1

It should teach them how to become more attractive, Which TRP does. how to become better people, This is vague and subjective. and how not to be overly selfish in the process, This is contrary to TRP. as an Omega male Well, first, fix this. If by omega you mean overweight and dumpy, obviously this should be fixed first. This is why TRP puts so much emphasis on lifting. caught being super selfish or hurting women Where does TRP ever advise men to hurt women? Mark Manson's advice is excellent, Ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:18 PM
6

But then you're still over-simplifying it by glossing over the whole "get the [right] parts" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 02:21 PM
3

This changes nothing. Good game works even if she knows it's game. Her indignation is just more shit tests. Don't DEER about it. Edit: commented before I finished reading. Sounds like you have the right idea. What is your question?
/r/askMRP03/11/16 02:17 PM
1

Until you try to plug an Intel processor into an AM3+ socketed motherboard...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 01:49 PM
3

In general if a girl offers to reschedule it's a good sign. If she wasn't interested she would just say she was busy without offering an alternative.
/r/seduction03/11/16 01:33 PM
1

Can you give an example of what you think TRP should teach to these guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 12:58 PM
1

Over the years, there have been a lot of highly-rated and/or stickied posts telling noobs to STFU and keep reading before thinking they know what they're talking about. This stuff does get addressed sometimes, but the unfortunate nature of reddit is that those things can get buried over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 12:45 PM
1

It's called humor.
/r/seduction03/11/16 06:05 AM
2

It's a perfect response.
/r/seduction03/11/16 04:52 AM
5

Experience, mostly. Until then, fake it till you make it. Meditation will help you keep a calm, non-eager, non-judgemental attitude when talking with women. A wry grin will get you much further than a toothy smile. When in doubt, STFU and hold eye contact, raise an eye brow, and non-verbally invite them to keep talking. Other than that, keep studying TRP/PUA and go talk to girls.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/16 03:44 AM
4

I actually agree with this. The problem with TRP is there is no clear progression, and new guys read it and think they can jump straight ahead to demanding blow jobs and calling random women sluts before they've developed any real sense of how to be smooth and cool ("game"). But that doesn't invalidate TRP itself. At best it means some of the advice is more "advanced" and needs to be interpreted with a critical mind to see the nuance of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 08:24 PM
10

It's the "natural" paradox. Guys who learned early due to positive role models and early behavioral reinforcement aren't as consciously aware of what they're doing right, but guys who had to "learn it from a book" are deemed to be "fake" and "manipulative". In fact, that's one of the main reasons we tell guys not to talk about TRP. When people find out you had to "learn" how to be a cool, confident and sexual man, it gets people thinking of what you were like before, and they assume you're still…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 08:21 PM
1

Your hot friends have solid NGAF game because of positive reinforcement. Good looks can prime the pump, but bad game will ruin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 08:15 PM
1

Game > looks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 08:13 PM
3

Ok, yeah, I see what you mean. As long as you aren't being butthurt about it.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 07:56 PM
2

I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you, just clarifying for other people reading it.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 07:55 PM
18

Yeah, but A) you don't have to be a greek god, and B) even if you are, being an awkward dork will cancel out any amount of hotness. Edit: also, hot chicks are nice to look at, but once you've banged a few you realize it's the 6s and 7s that are the best lays and usually have more interesting personalities.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 07:01 PM
4

Then mindfuck their groupthink. Why? You think you're going to "expose" them? Teach them a "lesson"? No, the point is to just go with it. You've figured out the inside joke, don't be that guy who goes around explaining it to everyone. The people who don't get it still won't get it when you explain, and the people who are in on it will deny your explanation. Just enjoy the ride.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 06:02 PM
7

I agree. Unfortunately we just have to wade through it. I've been an active member of the libertarian community for a long time and it's full of truthers/etc, and I challenge it every time I see it, but it's like playing wacko whack a mole. It never stops.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 05:21 PM
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That's why whenever I see these "good guy alpha" guys talk about virgin brides and whining about 'looks' or whatever, I cringe, because they're trapped in the matrix but want to think they've taken the red pill.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 05:08 PM
6

Fair enough. I didn't give him EC status, I'm just saying I kind of understand why he was given it.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 05:06 PM
3

Stop reading TRP. Go read old Roissy posts on Chateau Heartiste. Examples can be given, but the deeper mentality can't really be taught, it must be discovered. The Tao that can be explained is not the true Tao.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 05:05 PM
4

Yeah... NeoreactionSafe does get TRP, but he also has a bunch of other silly ideas. I get why he's endorsed, but I cringe at about 20% of what he says.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 05:02 PM
4

Amused mastery is a result. It's part of "fake it till you make it". The reality kicks in when you see the same shit over and over and you just don't care anymore.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 05:00 PM
5

Fuck you. Sincerely, White as fuck methodological individualist guy.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 04:53 PM
-2

It's infuriating how many fringe wackos TRP attracts. Yet another reason to never talk about TRP in public.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 04:51 PM
1

If they're just douchy dudebros, they aren't TRP. Or, at least they have a very simplistic caricature in their minds about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:32 PM
2

So, you just don't like that we have acronyms and abstract terminology?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:31 PM
2

I do explain it to them, that's what I said. Jesus... You just want to imagine some spergy neckbeard using a bunch of geeky acronyms and being shot down. You're not actually arguing against the ideas of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:24 PM
1

Well, sure, but if I just talked about being "a rational man", it would just be some vague platitude.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 04:21 PM
3

Don't play dumb with me. I literally just answered that question: I don't use those words because most people don't know what they mean, but I talk about the principles and ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:12 PM
15

Yes... but no. I mean, yes, that's the end goal. But, no, it's not that simple. You have to deeply internalize this stuff before you can pull it off in that natural way.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 04:11 PM
1

This is definitely the end goal, but I think a lot of guys need a bit of a jumpstart on this mentality. They need to see it IRL to be able to internalize it. I think this is where PUA routines have a lot of value, as long as guys can realize that the point of routines is to teach the underlying principles, and they don't get too reliant on hard-coded routines.
/r/askTRP02/11/16 04:07 PM
3

Kiss a girl. Tell her she's a bad kisser. Hold serious-face while waiting for reaction. When she looks surprised/offended/whatever, let out a tiny bit of a wry grin. Tell her you'll give her another try and go in for a long, deep, tongue-down-throat kiss. Then pull back, look in her eyes, pause, grin, and say "that's much better". Edit: never be serious. This all in a thick sarcastic tone. But it must come from an internal place of NGAF because you're just being playful, and if she doesn't like …
/r/askTRP02/11/16 03:59 PM
1

The point isn't too actually have to do with alpha game is a great example of using a different way to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:54 PM
7

I talk about those things all the time. I don't use those words because most people don't know what they mean, but I talk about the principles and ideas. Most people, especially most women, agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:52 PM
5

Those women still get all tingly at the idea of a confidently dismissive guy who isn't afraid of losing a girl.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 03:50 PM
8

Is it the acronyms you find creepy, or the ideas themselves? I talk about how sometimes women play hard to get and no one ever bats an eye. I don't call it LMR because they won't know that specific term.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:48 PM
1

Computer science?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:45 PM
8

Then WTF is your point? You're just biting the bullet to construct a tautology. "This specific group finds everything creepy, so they find TRP creepy, therefore TRP is creepy." Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:44 PM
10

Because why would they "go ewwy" when you say "the red pill" if they've never heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:41 PM
5

There's no way you've ever met 10 TRPers IRL. You might have seen douchy dudebros, and you assumed that's what TRP is like...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:38 PM
4

AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:36 PM
14

Also, you are literally choosing to filter out good women in order to get with the bad. If you think there are "good women" who aren't like that, you're in the wrong sub.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 02:42 PM
6

It's not really something you can just read or learn from videos. Sure you can read about what it is, but in order to pull it off you just have to internalize it through experience.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 02:40 PM
24

Yes! Do you have a working link to that secret society article? My bookmark is 404 and I'm on mobile. Someone sent me a PM: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/60027
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 02:38 PM
23

No, you can't just announce it. That would be like wearing a shirt that says "I'm cool". It has to be a congruent part of your attitude.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 02:35 PM
2

What social conditioning though? You said feminists are only vilfying men who want to treat women like cattle and revoke their right to vote. I'm saying virtually no man actually believes that, and that's not even what feminists are talking about anyway. There is no social conditioning like this, it simply doesn't exist aside from a few wackos here and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 01:53 PM
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A guy who has enough experience and enough social/emotional intelligence to understand how women really operate without having to be "told" by her. Guys like this are on the "inside", they're in on the game, they get it. Guys who don't get it are treated like outsiders and get told the same BP fantasy bullshit over and over.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 12:38 PM
7

They aren't vilifying all men, but those that want to uphold the notion that women are to be kept like cattle and that they shouldn't be allowed to vote. But that's a massive strawman. Virtually no one believes women should be property or not allowed to vote, and no feminists are even talking about that. If that's all feminism was about, we wouldn't have feminism any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:33 PM
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if she feels like she can connect with you/be a "wild girl" around you This is huge. It's one of the biggest things I noticed when I first started unplugging. When you successfully pull off the "this guy gets it" vibe, women will open up about all their little secrets and games, and will openly confirm TRP truths. This is why I laugh at BPers who claim only "some" women are like that, or whatever. Because I've seen women blatantly contradict themselves. They'll gladly confirm TRP to me, and then…
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 12:17 PM
5

If you're going to be seeing multiple girls at a time, you need to learn how to frame yourself as the kind of guy who does that normally. A couple of relevant links: Never promise monogamy by Mario Favela (formerly "Red Pill Game") Why monogamy doesn't work on Blackdragon Blog
/r/askTRP02/11/16 12:07 PM
10

/r/PurplePillDebate is the only place you're going to find any serious discussion.
/r/askTRP02/11/16 11:56 AM
2

In the words of Patrice O'Neal: women don't want to win, they want a winner.
/r/askMRP02/11/16 11:30 AM
1

Yep, NoFap is definitely a cult. Good luck with that bro...
/r/askTRP02/11/16 11:20 AM
2

I actually agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:33 AM
2

And not doing it can ruin others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 09:17 PM
2

Bring other girls home for threesomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 09:02 PM
1

Why are you turning down sex with your girlfriend?
/r/askTRP01/11/16 07:53 PM
1

Why does Jesus have to be alpha for you to do that?
/r/askTRP01/11/16 07:26 PM
1

Why would you think he was?
/r/askTRP01/11/16 06:11 PM
10

It's ok as long as it's a woman complaining about TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:28 PM
3

No.
/r/askTRP01/11/16 05:21 PM
2

No. You shouldn't be so eager to be publicly associated with TRP. But if you're just looking for like-minded men, look for other men's groups. In my area there's a No More Mr Nice Guy group (based on the Robert Glover book) on Meetup.com, for example.
/r/askTRP01/11/16 04:29 PM
1

Depends on what you mean by "treat her like a woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 12:55 PM
1

You and your friends aren't statistically significant. See the article I posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 04:48 AM
1

I think he's talking about her friends.
/r/seduction31/10/16 11:25 PM
3

Befriend the friends.
/r/seduction31/10/16 11:24 PM
3

Depends on the subject. If she's pulling this shit about things like how you spend your money or your time, don't play that game, it's just a part of her betafication agenda to lock you down. in most things No, fuck that. You have your life and she should have her life. You enjoy your time with her, but you don't let her inject herself in to "most" of your decisions. If it's something specific that affects her, then sure, her input is taken in to consideration. Otherwise, no, you're living your …
/r/askTRP31/10/16 07:50 PM
6

I personally don't believe in "soulmates" but if that's what you're looking for, all I can say is best of luck to you. OP was specifically asking about setting up a fuckbuddy situation, so that's what I responded to.
/r/seduction31/10/16 07:26 PM
16

And have tons of foreplay An important distinction should be made here though. Foreplay shouldn't be done just to satisfy her. They key is to genuinely love being naked together, fooling around, instead of doing it because you think it's what women want/need in order to get off. This attitude will change everything.
/r/seduction31/10/16 05:12 PM
1

There are more desperate men than desperate women. There are more men who will date below their SMV than women who will do the same. If course counter-examples exist, but I'm talking overall. Student loan debt isn't a negative in the SMV, I'm not talking about net worth. A hot white college student has much higher SMV than a perceived "hood rat".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:08 PM
11

This is why giving off an aire of being a discreet man is so important if you're looking for casual sex.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/16 05:01 PM
1

Just look at the stats. On tinder men swipe right several times more often than women. On OkCupid, men send the vast majority of first messages and reply to messages far more often than women. The fact that men have a broader set of women they find attractive enough to give it a shot than women in general is obvious. (I'm on mobile right now, but I can easily provide links if you need) Socioeconomic status is a big part of SMV for men, far moreso than it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 04:55 PM
42

Just text her again in a few days to hang out. She said she wants to be fuck buddies, so why are you worried about being a "fuckboy"? Is it because girls say they don't want to be with fuckboys? Stop listening to what women say they want. But either way, don't get too hung up on this one girl, you should be pursuing other girls too.
/r/seduction31/10/16 04:03 PM
1

I think most of the shaming in these cases come from other women. If you mean online, sure there are a lot of dumb kids who will troll unattractive women, but in real life, I rarely see it happen. In that one street harassment video about walking in NY, every single one of the men they highlight were low status black men. Of course, none of feminists clamoring over this will say it's about low SMV men, but the implications are clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 02:09 PM
1

I think this understates the problem. Sure people are turned off by the thought of extremely unattractive women being sexual, but there are two key differences: Women have a much more narrow range of men who are considered attractive enough to openly express their sexuality without being shamed. Women who can't get away with it are the exception, not the rule. On the flip side, men who can get away with it are the exception. While the idea of extremely unattractive women being sexual is kind of …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 12:42 PM
1

The only problem I see here is this: I have trouble touching girls Physical escalation is key. If you don't touch them, they won't touch you. There is plenty of information out there in the pickup community on escalation, I recommend you go check it out.
/r/askTRP31/10/16 12:36 PM
5

Most of the women I've been with have been naturally submissive and none of them have ever expressed anything remotely close to what you're describing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:00 PM
2

Is it just the fact of causing someone else pleasure that makes it submissive in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:41 PM
3

See, that is nonsense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:38 PM
1

So, is cunnilingus also submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:36 PM
5

You're just equivocating two different things. Submissiveness isn't about a particular act, it's an attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:25 PM
1

You must be new to the internet...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:22 PM
5

Speak for yourself bruh. Obviously I wasn't talking about you, I just said "most". I.e.: [A] CONSIDERABLE PORTION OF THE population, perhaps the major portion of the male population, has at least some homosexual experience between adolescence and old age. In addition, about 60 per cent of the pre-adolescent boys engage in homosexual activities, and there is an additional group of adult males who avoid overt contacts but who are quite aware of their potentialities for reacting to other males. htt…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:20 PM
1

There wasn't anything submissive about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 07:11 PM
3

Your "friend" should do whatever he wants. And if he's afraid of other people judging him for it, he should just keep it to himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:19 PM
12

Most straight men have had some form of homoerotic experience. I've sucked dick before when I was young, fooling around with my middle school best friend, but I generally don't feel any attraction to men. Homosexuality is an overall sexual orientation, you're either gay or you aren't, and it has nothing to do with actions. Nothing "makes" you gay, other than your overall sexual attraction. Edit: I know I'm not directly challenging OP's view, but I am challenging the premise of his view.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:13 PM
4

Ah. Well then. Good talk.
/r/askTRP30/10/16 02:05 AM
1

And of course, he deletes his post...
/r/askTRP29/10/16 10:06 PM
2

Why not what?
/r/askTRP29/10/16 09:03 PM
4

No. That's not even acceptable for an 18yo girl. Dude, she's a manipulative emotional mess. She knows exactly what she's doing when she sends you those vids. That isn't even AWALT, it's just a massive red flag.
/r/askTRP29/10/16 09:02 PM
1

Your gf sends you videos of her crying?!
/r/askTRP29/10/16 08:34 PM
1

I don't think this is something that's going to be fixed with some advice from people on the internet. If you really want to fix this, I'd highly recommend seeing a therapist that specializes in CBT.
/r/askTRP29/10/16 08:20 PM
3

Well that's the thing. We aren't selling anything and we don't care about public image.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:13 PM
2

Check out my reply to the other guy who said basically the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:57 PM
3

Right, it's an extreme case to illustrate the point. It's a sliding scale. On a smaller scale, an example might be a highschool girl who hooks up with the most popular guy in her school and gossips about it to her friends. Or hooking up with the DJ at a popular club. It's the "obtaining the unobtainable" factor that's validating, not the sex itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:57 PM
1

I would say a lot of non-TRP aware men would actually find that pretty validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:07 PM
2

From my experience, the more a woman brags about being a "slut" or whatever, the less slutty she actually is, and is usually doing it to resolve deep seeded self-consciousness about being called a slut. True sluts are generally far more quiet about it, and tend to be more defensive about their sluttiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:29 PM
1

Depends. I've heard women brag about banging (minor) celebrities that they had no delusions of actually locking down in a relationship. The SMV disparity is key, the more astronomically out of her league he is, the more she'll get validation from casual sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:19 PM
1

Trolling is a art.
/r/seduction29/10/16 01:10 PM
2

What did the military teach your son about authority??? Military people are some of the most BP people I know, and are charged full of all kinds of simplistic notions about "honor" or whatever. Tone-deaf "PC bro" style white-knighting is very common in military guys.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/10/16 12:08 PM
1

You guys might want to consider a PR firm. No, because we don't care what the simple-minded masses think of us. The problem is, most people can't hold two ideas in their mind at the same time to form a complex thought. That's why if you say "rape is a horrible crime, but women can also do things to reduce their risk of being raped" a lot of people can't understand that and assume you're blaming women for being raped. LMR is a similarly complex thought that goes like this: "most women play hard t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:26 AM
1

I don't want to imagine that you guys actually have compassion for women Good idea. It would be a shame if you were to see us as people and have to start engaging some critical thinking instead of just dismissing us in bad faith as an overblown caricature.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:18 AM
2

I'm pretty sure that's a troll post. At best, it's a cringy, awkward attempt at implementing a very simplistic version of TRP. Either way, it's still not even close to: force her to have sex when she's hurting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:30 AM
1

You'll need to give more details. What's the rest of your relationship like? Do you lift? What's your social life like outside of her? Are you a good little puppy who is always available to her, or do you have a life? Do you have genuine, exercisable options with other women?
/r/askTRP28/10/16 11:32 PM
1

That isn't about personal relationship preferences though. Claiming to be sex positive while shaming male sexuality is blatant hypocrisy. Wanting a specific relationship arrangement isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 10:28 PM
1

Why would drop her? Are you thinking about marrying her or something? She's a plate. If you start dropping every page who does drugs occasionally, you'll run out of plates.
/r/askTRP28/10/16 08:41 PM
1

Also, the "don't listen to women" thing has a discursive context in TRP. It's usually followed by "watch what they do", where the point is women will often say they don't hook up, or want to date nice guys, etc, but will often end up hooking up and dating assholes anyway. "Don't listen to women" is never meant to say anything about ignoring them when they say something hurts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:38 PM
1

Well, I've never seen anything like that said on TRP in the 3 years I've been here. I would have to see the context and exact wording, but if your summary is correct, I can't imagine it was well received by the rest of the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:35 PM
6

It really depends on your frame. In my open marriage, my wife rarely wants to see other guys, she'd rather wait at home for me.
/r/askTRP28/10/16 08:25 PM
4

I know, right?! I mean, white isn't even a color! From now on, I'm calling them beige knights!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:08 PM
1

We sat on her bed with my arm around her. Could've been more confident though. Were you doing awkward hover hand? Also, next time, you have your arm around a chick, pause with solid/seductive eye contact for a second, then just before you go in for the kiss, lean in just a bit and put your other hand on her knee or thigh, and judge her response. If she tenses up or pulls back just grin, lean back and keep talking. Otherwise, go in for the kiss. What do you think would be a good idea for the meet…
/r/askTRP28/10/16 05:44 PM
4

anyone who says giving women orgasms is beta is a fucktard. I agree, when I read that I was genuinely shocked. In fact, as an extreme case, I've seen guys on TRP talk about how giving a girl orgasms is the best way to prevent a false rape charge. Sex God Method is often recommended. Whoever thinks giving women orgasms is beta doesn't understand TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:35 PM
3

Her boyfriend situation is none of your business, so don't worry about it. She's probably in the market for a replacement anyway. Attractive girls are rarely single and often start a new relationship before they break up, or at least have someone lined up. But keep this in mind on the other end too: if she's willing to start seeing you while taken, it means she's probably willing to do the same to you if/when she gets bored of being with you. Whatever you do, don't expect long-term monogamy from…
/r/seduction28/10/16 04:58 PM
1

Generally if she offers to reschedule then it's a good sign. If she was just like "I'm busy" that would be different. So I would say try again in a few days. What's the worst that can happen? If you already lost her, you have nothing to lose, especially since she isn't in your social circle. As for escalating, did you touch her at all before going in for the kiss? If not, you should work on kino escalation. The PUA scene has come up with a number of simple systems for smooth escalation, just Goo…
/r/askTRP28/10/16 04:24 PM
-1

Create a different reddit account and post on some of the other male fashion / rateme / fitness subs. Never associate anything identifying with your TRP account.
/r/askTRP28/10/16 04:12 PM
1

It's the Internet, there are always going to be in-group-signaling know-it-alls. But sometimes the "cliches" are relevant and maybe some noobs will be reading it for the first time, so I usually don't mind. Obviously guys who just post "AWALT" aren't helping anyone though.
/r/TRPOffTopic28/10/16 03:57 PM
1

Sitcoms never lie...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:06 PM
1

I would say it's a relatively small minority of RPers who are actual tradcons. Most RPers who do talk about traditional ideas of gender roles only do so as a point of comparison and don't actually want everything to go back to how it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:05 PM
2

Because of the nature of sexual activity, there are no circumstances where someone can be compelled to have sex. Actually, this isn't even specific to sex. Even with, say, a plumber, if you paid for services, and the plumber then refuses to render the service, you still don't have the right to compel them to provide the service, that would be indentured servitude. You do, however, have the right to just compensation, usually involving a refund of your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:54 PM
1

Just give in to the tingles, stop fighting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:03 AM
1

You seem pretty upset about this, so I'll just give you some time to cool down. This doesn't mean I don't love you! :*
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:52 AM
1

Oh, I thought we were circlejerking about how alfalfa we were...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:41 AM
13

IllimitableMan is really the only one who consistently writes about dark triad. It's mentioned rarely outside of his posts. I'd say he has a bit of an obsession with it, but really it's just meant as an illustration or an archetype much like Chad. Edit: Wait, I just read this part of your post: force her to have sex when she's hurting WTF? Where is that said anywhere in TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:36 AM
1

I've been to jail, AMA.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:33 AM
26

Women make up rules for betas and excuses for alphas.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/16 06:30 AM
5

Talk to them? Yes. Fuck them? Not unless you want to.
/r/seduction28/10/16 06:21 AM
-1

You've obviously never been in a serious fight. For you, it's just a hypothetical that you're just now being exposed to. For someone who's been in several serious fights, I can tell you nothing is more motivating to want to study martial arts. My most recent fight was just a few weeks ago, the inside of my lip and cheek are still healing, and I'm starting Krav Maga next week.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/16 06:07 AM
3

fun, entertainment, companionship, and emotional or intellectual connections That's what dogs are for.
/r/askTRP28/10/16 05:24 AM
3

They don't count, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:06 AM
3

Well, if a man wants a harem, why shouldn't he be allowed to want that? If the women are ok with it, they choose to stay in the relationship. If a woman had an ideal relationship of wanting multiple men all to herself, we wouldn't have a problem with that. Go check out /r/polyamory, there are any number of different relationship arrangements, and they're one of the most BP subs I read. These are consenting adults with preferences, and if their preferences are compatible, even if they're differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:01 AM
5

Everywhere I've worked in IT, people bring in their own stuff all the time. I've never heard of having to ask permission. At most, some places have a form you fill out to log it as your personal property. Who said you needed permission, and why do you think you need to get all Machiavelian to get it?
/r/askTRP27/10/16 09:12 PM
3

So, responding to all the stuff you added in your edits, none of these posts are talking about what you claim they are. One of them just talks about how he would like a "harem", but that isn't cheating. The swinger thread is just saying the man would be a "cuck" if his wife is getting a lot of action while he isn't, and in fact, a lot of the RPers in that thread bring up some important, nuanced points, i.e, the difference between hotwife vs cuckold, etc. Nothing here is saying men should wonton …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 09:00 PM
2

Well, seems like you edited in quite a bit since I replied...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:52 PM
2

Nothing about cheating in that thread as far as I can tell...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:23 PM
3

Did you actually read that article?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:37 PM
3

"I want my wife to be faithful, if she cheats then it's a dealbreaker but I want to be able to sleep with other women" I have literally never seen anyone on TRP or MRP say anything like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:12 PM
3

Human trafficking is a 3rd world problem, and not at all what's happening to prostitutes in 1st world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:10 PM
5

This is 80s propaganda. I've known plenty of hookers, visited a few myself, and have one friend who's a frequent "hobbyist", and I can tell you, it's nothing like that. They're all very willing and consciously making the choice to do what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:09 PM
1

I wasn't saying Johns are addicts, just saying, as far as the analogy goes, women are the "dealers" (sellers of a good or service) and Johns are the "users" (buyers of a good or service). And if you think "pimps" are a real thing, you've watched way too many 80s movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 07:06 PM
10

Yet another post where OP is relying on a simplistic caricature of TRP, and ends up explaining a basic TRP concept. This is all well explained in the TRP sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:43 PM
6

And yet, in the sex market, women are the dealers and men are the users/addicts. So why is it the inverse treatment for sex work vs drugs?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:34 PM
3

Blame men Johns.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:28 PM
4

You're thinking too logically. It's like women who are "sex-positive" but opposed to men who "just want sex". It's a deep cognitive dissonance. When viewed from the woman's perspective, all must be accepted and validated; when viewed from the male perspective, all must be controlled, restricted and even shamed if necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:27 PM
6

Choices and freedom for women; rules and conditions for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:24 PM
5

You write like you're seeking validation for being /r /iamverysmart. If you want to continue down the path of not seeking validation so much, lose the big words and the overly complicated/poetic sentence structure.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/16 01:06 PM
5

Fix your life first. Get a job, a car and your own place. Fix your social situation. Ditch your friends and make new ones if you have to. Until you fix this stuff, you will always be fighting an uphill battle. Is dating even necessary in 2016? No, like you said, hang out, have fun, hook up. But fix yourself first.
/r/askTRP27/10/16 01:13 AM
14

My money is on P's fucking a bad boy drug dealer on the side My money's on your wife is, at a minimum, doing drugs with her, and at worst, fucking him too. Regardless, your marriage is over. Call a lawyer immediately and tell him everything.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/16 10:44 PM
2

Well, I agree with you, so I'll give you an up vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:15 PM
3

I think maybe the problem is just hip to waist ratio. The fact her hips seem to be about as wide as her waist I think makes her seem fatter. I bet if she had just slightly wider hips, it would make her look better. But it's hard to tell from the pic. Edit: more downvotes, I wonder why this is so controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:31 PM
2

Hormone cycle probably influences this to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:52 PM
1

I agree, #2 is a bit of a butterface.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:54 PM
1

Yeah, I'd do her. It's that you? Edit: don't know why everyone else is saying gross or why I got downvoted for this. Maybe it's because I'm on mobile and can't see the pic well? Idk...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:53 PM
1

These rain checks never work out. They are fraud. Can confirm. My wife used to play this game all the time and it was extremely frustrating -- of course, I would always be "sympathetic" to her excuses, and never wanted to "pressure" her, so I swallowed my frustration along with my pride.
/r/askMRP26/10/16 12:52 PM
8

It really depends on the rest of the body. I personally prefer curvy women (as in actually curvy, not like what the fat women on OKCupid call themselves "curvy"), i.e.: This is good (NFSW) This is barely bangable (NSFW) This is disgusting (NSFW)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:42 PM
3

Good point. Officialdom has huge psychological implications.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/16 10:08 PM
3

Grabbing the pussy.
/r/seduction25/10/16 09:48 PM
3

Yeah. Awkward af.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 07:08 PM
1

Ok, find me a photograph of a woman with a full bush from the 1400s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 07:08 PM
3

Outercourse, kissing, necking, and mutual masturbation, are all safer forms of sex. Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:28 PM
4

As Christopher Hitchens once said, the three most overrated things in life are lobster, picnics and anal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:27 PM
4

American culture was also highly puritanical for much of its history. But oral sex was definitely enjoyed in earlier periods in other cultures. Who gives a shit what a bunch of up tight puritans thought was "deviant".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:26 PM
2

Preferred indifference.
/r/askTRP25/10/16 06:08 PM
1

shaving bald is 100% novel historically I think the Renaissance (NSFW) would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:07 PM
1

Well, the responses actually seem pretty split on the issue. I agree with you though that the men in this sub and in TRP do not represent a majority of society. Yay consensus! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 04:45 PM
2

Realistically, there's no such thing as "society" as some independent force. It's just people. It's not like men were suddenly brainwashed in to wanting something they didn't already want. The fact that not shaving wasn't as important in some periods of history doesn't mean it's not something that men would prefer. I think an important distinction here though, is that shaved legs isn't so important to most men as to be a deal-breaker, it's just at best a mild preference for most I would say. To …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 04:19 PM
5

You're putting the cart before the horse. Porn didn't invent men's preferences for shaving, it caters to it. The whole point of porn is fantasy fulfillment. If men preferred hairy women, porn would be full of hairy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:56 PM
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It goes in and out of fashion. Both ancient Greece and ancient Egypt engaged in body hair removal for women. But you're still missing my point. You made a comparison between women's body hair and men's. My point is that it's not comparable because men and women find different things attractive. Men are (generally) attracted to smooth, soft skin, while for women this is at best unimportant, and at most, for at least a lot of women, they prefer men to be hairy and have tougher skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:51 PM
5

How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:43 PM
2

Ahh, I lost track of the context of your last comment. I see what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:42 PM
0

Right, but you know what I mean. Obviously there are differences in what men and women find attractive in each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:39 PM
2

Do you consider your own body hair nasty as well? That's like asking guys if they find a woman's penis nasty, and when they say yes, asking "well, how come you don't find your own penis nasty?" Obviously its different when men have body hair for the same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:35 PM
2

I don't have any "advice" for them. I'm not saying they're wrong for wanting women to shave. I'm just saying, it's greatly overstated to say that men in general insist on it to the degree implied in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:33 PM
1

There's nothing red pill about this guy, he's just an internet blow-hard. Sure, TRP attracts a certain kind of blow-hard, but that's not what TRP is about.
/r/seduction25/10/16 03:19 PM
4

Badly, in some vague way, obviously. Not that OP is judging or anything...
/r/askTRP25/10/16 03:13 PM
3

Well, there you go. TRP/PPD is hardly "most men", in fact, that's kind of the point of TRP, is to get men to think differently than they typically do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 03:10 PM
3

I suppose that depends on where you hang out on Reddit. Plus the whole "vocal minority" thing. Guys who are more indifferent about it aren't going to be as likely to announce it. My experience in real life is that most men are mostly indifferent about it, maybe with a slight preference for shaved legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:58 PM
6

This fundamentally boils down to the old looks vs game dichotomy. In the club, game is going to be the deciding factor (assuming you aren't ugly), and on tinder, looks are going to be what gets you laid (assuming you don't fuck it up with anti-game).
/r/askTRP25/10/16 02:55 PM
2

Not entirely sure what your question is, but it seems like there are at least 2 questions buried in here. Should I trust what she says? Don't over-think it. It's what she's feeling right now. I'm sure she means it, but as the saying goes, it's a woman's prerogative to change her mind. In the meantime, just keep doing you and enjoying yourself, with her as long a she stays, or without her if/when she leaves (or you leave her if she starts fucking up). Should I move with her to NY? Sure, go for it…
/r/askTRP25/10/16 02:53 PM
1

Yes, there are definitely guys out there like that. And people memorize witty comebacks all the time, you don't need a literal script, you just have to have enough experience to have a general idea of what people typically say.
/r/seduction25/10/16 02:46 PM
2

I'm not sure which part of my comment you're responding to? The only part? It's one sentence with a single point, obviously I'm responding to that, right? the full brazilian is because of porn. It's just fashion. If your point is that porn has some influence on fashion, then sure. But it's hardly "porn conditioning". The removal of pubic hair goes at least as far back as ancient Greece. The style changes based on fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:29 PM
2

This is ridiculous. Women have been doing all kinds of things to their bodies to remove/mask imperfections and enhance other features since the dawn of time. Shaving legs and armpits is nothing compared to what, say, Victorian women did to themselves, such as intentionally consuming poisonous substances just to have fairer skin, etc. Edit: In fact, I'm convinced that women care more about these kind of things than most men do, but they project their insecurities about these things on men, or "th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:16 PM
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It's a very real problem. Victims of gaslighting often report the same kind of disbelief from the people around them, because the abuser is so good at managing their image and the opinions of others that no one wants to believe that they could be capable of the kind of abuse their victims report. There's no winning in this situation unless you can utterly destroy their reputation with hard evidence, which can be difficult to get. OP, the worst thing you can do is to go around DEERing (defend, ex…
/r/TheRedPill25/10/16 02:12 PM
2

Ok, I'll take you seriously enough to offer some actual advice. Get therapy. Seriously. If your story is true, your problem is likely that you're seriously depressed. Now, with that said, tits or GTFO.
/r/askTRP25/10/16 02:05 PM
1

It's all the same question too. If this is her, she's definitely just validation-trolling all over the place.
/r/askTRP25/10/16 01:52 PM
7

Impossible because they all date really nice guys. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 01:38 PM
1

That sounds like a good start. Definitely better than gut feelings based on rage and disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:52 AM
3

Go outside and meet women. When she's in town, text her, but don't sit around for a month waiting for some chick to come to you. Jesus.
/r/seduction24/10/16 10:46 PM
1

Cool story, but I think you forgot to ask a question.
/r/askTRP24/10/16 10:45 PM
3

Hate = love. The worst thing a woman can feel for you is indifference.
/r/askTRP24/10/16 10:34 PM
4

Firstly, if she's a model, she's surrounded by hot, interesting, artsy, etc guys. You could have done everything perfect and still lost her, so don't beat yourself up or get all over-analytical about it. Secondly, without actually seeing the texts, there's little we can really know about your situation. Maybe it wasn't what you think it was. Lastly, stop finger-fucking your phone so much. A couple of fun/funny/flirty texts before suggesting a meet up is fine, but don't sit around texting back an…
/r/seduction24/10/16 10:31 PM
3

The dictionary definition of "stoic" is very misleading when it comes to the actual philosophy of Stoicism. If you want to study the philosophy, forget any ideas you have about the word "stoic".
/r/askTRP24/10/16 09:33 PM
2

Definitely practice. There are a lot of subtleties that are hard to convey in text that you really need to see it happening in real time to understand. Don't let your lack of knowing every little thing about game become an excuse to not go out and meet women.
/r/askTRP24/10/16 09:08 PM
5

Great post. I think a similar situation applies to things like Robert Greene's rake archetype. The rake is overtly "loving" and showers women with compliments and validation, but he does it such an over-the-top way and with an aire of flippant disregard that women love it instead of reacting with disgust like they would if a needy beta did those things. The rake loves women, not necessarily her specifically, and he does it confidently as if he's had such success with women in general that his ro…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/16 09:05 PM
1

I've seen all forms of game promoted in TRP, but there are definitely common themes such as taking the lead, initiating ("kino", etc) which are common to all forms of game, not just TRP. Even Robert Greene talks about this and he wrote The Art of Seduction without any PUA/TRP influence, just his independent research, largely based on historical/classical works. If you read some of Heartiste's earlier writings on game, or the archives of /r/TRPgame, you'll see all the basic elements are there and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 05:04 PM
2

Unless there are glaring contradictions or obvious signs of deception, I take people's word in good faith online, especially when they're looking for advice or support. So, yes, I would take women's accounts seriously on such a sub. I'm not going to deny that there are a lot of shitty men out there. I think people are way too quick to assume everything on the internet is made up or inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 04:53 PM
4

It was actually very difficult for me to try to be dominant in bed, even despite knowing my wife wanted it. My natural inclination is to be soft and gentle with intimate touching and closeness. My fantasy is for a woman to be so in to me that she is very sexually forward and assertive. Of course, this was long before I discovered TRP. Now I do enjoy being dominant and assertive with sex, but I find a mutual solution is to do things like tell her, in my deep manly voice, to get on top of me and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 03:49 PM
2

Oh come on. Of course some accounts are false or exaggerated, but you can't really assume it's a significant portion of them. This is just subtle minimization.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 03:31 PM
1

Thanks.
/r/TRPOffTopic24/10/16 02:14 AM
1

NiceGuy™ ... an alpha who's kind This is the distinction I was thinking of, and wanted to make sure we both understood the difference. TRP doesn't deny that there are nicer and meaner people out there right? Nope, not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:07 PM
1

Whatever you call it, you can't claim that TRP only recognizes one highly specific kind of Game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:04 PM
1

bad puns and intentionally bad porn acting, fundamentalists rocking the time warp, or outliers gender flipping it all by choice You mean like the jester?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:29 PM
0

Nice Guy Alpha This sounds like a contradiction in terms to me. Perhaps you're using a different definition of either "Nice Guy" or "Alpha", or both. Would you mind expanding on what you mean by those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:27 PM
1

Right, just like you can decide to not eat junk food, but few people avoid junk food completely forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:21 PM
0

The thing about BPD (and PDs in general) is that they are just extreme versions of normal personality. PDs aren't neurophysiological in basis, they are otherwise healthy individuals who are psychologically stuck in a maladaptive cognitive-behavioral pattern. The only difference is that people with PDs display thoughts and behaviors that normal people can and do under stress, but it's pervasive and perpetual. So, in that sense, BPD is basically just the extreme end of female psychology, and any w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:18 PM
5

Your example of Bill Clinton is what TRP is trying to teach, not the "loud mouth buffoon" caricature you mention. Is it true that a lot of noobs to TRP get the wrong, simplistic idea? Sure, but it's the internet, that happens anywhere. But when these noobs post, they're usually quickly corrected by those of us who have been around a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:06 PM
2

almost any woman going to a bar... But it's not just women at bars. It's women I work with, women I know through other social circles, etc, etc. But not every woman Sure, as I've said in a previous post I fully acknowledge that there are introverted, nerdy, and/or just generally less "typical" women out there, but even those women will respond well to Game, you just have to calibrate it to their personality. Game isn't some static one-size-fits-all set of routines and tactics, it's a mentality o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 03:56 PM
3

Nope, there have only been a handful of women it doesn't work on, and they were definitely ball-busting bitches, not just from my perspective, but from anyone who knew them. Here are two of them that come to mind: My former boss at my last job. Never married, mid 40s, former marine. Constantly got in to shouting matches with other managers in meetings, especially other female managers. Everyone eventually came to hate her. She's been working for the same company for 30 years, but never held the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 03:31 PM
1

I don't disagree, but that misses the point. The point is to study the ins-and-outs of female attraction in general, with DT being a case-study. Again, as I said, TRP doesn't actually promote being DT (other than /u/IllimitableMan maybe, but even then it's hard to tell if he's actually promoting it or just fascinated by the theory).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 03:04 PM
3

So far, my experience is that good Game works on pretty much all women, except for broken, ball-busting women who will find any display of strength from men as a challenge because they're on a mission to destroy their ex/father/rapist/whatever vicariously by destroying any man who doesn't 100% supplicate to women (i.e., her).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 02:56 PM
3

No, this is a huge misconception. Dark triad is used as an example of the kinds of things women are attracted to, but the point isn't to actually become dark triad. It's just like the archetype of Chad; it's just an archetype to learn from.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 02:45 PM
1

pretend no one has ever implied they intend to rape women on TRP Where has this ever happened? Give me an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 02:13 PM
1

Really? Is this your example of TRP advocating "forcibly raping an unwilling woman"? A joke about looking at women dancing in the club?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 02:12 PM
1

I'm glad that works for you. Most guys who are new to this kind of stuff though usually have a hard time pulling that off, and most people are happier and feel better about themselves when they have friends. Since OP seems to worry that not having friends would be a problem, it probably is for him.
/r/seduction22/10/16 10:54 PM
1

Yes, definitely go out, have fun, and meet people. But start with meeting cool people you can be friends with. If you can't "pick up" friends, how are you going to pick up chicks?
/r/seduction22/10/16 10:06 PM
2

don't do it because you want to look good in front of a girl. That's not what I said. I just said not having friends is unattractive, and also unhealthy, so it should be what OP fixes before worrying about trying to get laid.
/r/seduction22/10/16 09:55 PM
1

I didn't say you have to go out with your friends to get pick up chicks. But having friends increases your self-confidence and social skills in general. Being the kind of guy who can make friends is always going to help your game. Besides, what are you going to tell chicks if the topic of friends comes up in conversation? Also, as I said, not having any friends will likely lead to you being clingy and needy with girls in general. Having a social life outside of girls is both healthy and attracti…
/r/seduction22/10/16 09:48 PM
2

The first link just says women like men more if they have attractive sons. If you don't have sons, or if the girl doesn't see them, then it can't influence her attraction anyway. The second link doesn't say that specific genes are universally more attractive, just the genes which indicate a different set of MHC genes than her is more attractive. Besides, these studies usually find statistically significant, but ultimately small differences in attraction, hardly a make or break difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 05:49 PM
2

TRP will never become popular enough to even put a dent in the general population on average. at great expense Being better than the next 4 random guys (20% is only 1 in 5) isn't really all that hard unless you're severely disadvantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 05:27 PM
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No, there are a lot of benefits of having friends. But in the context of seduction, the main one is that no woman wants to date a guy with no friends.
/r/seduction22/10/16 04:51 PM
1

Well, firstly, women can't tell your "genetics", they can only guess based on your appearance and behavior. Why I said most men don't "try", I meant most men don't lift, dress well, learn game, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 04:44 PM
1

Pretty much.
/r/askTRP22/10/16 04:35 PM
1

But if he's not an average beta? Right, but that's not what I was talking about. Not all alpha's have money. I agree, but again, not what I was talking about.
/r/askTRP22/10/16 04:34 PM
1

That's what women want out of betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 04:21 PM
1

You think the average beta is taking girls to Starbucks and getting laid regularly?
/r/askTRP22/10/16 04:04 PM
1

So, you think the average beta is taking girls to dates at McDonald's and getting laid most of the time?
/r/askTRP22/10/16 02:59 PM
1

At least you would if did turn him down that much, so that's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 02:55 PM
2

I'm just here for the cake.
/r/askTRP22/10/16 02:46 PM
1

Thank YOU
/r/askTRP22/10/16 02:32 PM
3

It's called "the red pill" for a reason: you've been lied to and you have to discover the truth on your own. All of your questions are answered in the sidebar. I know it looks like a lot of reading, but that's because there aren't any simple, straightforward answers to your questions. But here are a few specific things to get you started: The Truth Of What Women Want But Will Never Admit, Even To Themselves What Women Want In A Man - 5 Factors That Hook Women Like Crack Why women fall for asshol…
/r/askTRP22/10/16 02:17 PM
1

They're probably hot, rich or have high social status. Or they are successful with "left over" women who are either unattractive, crazy or dumb.
/r/askTRP22/10/16 02:08 PM
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Make friends first. A) A guy with no friends looks like a social loser. B) You'll get needy af if you do get a girl because you have no other social outlet. Edit: Sheesh... Obviously those aren't the only reasons to make friends, they are just 2 relevant reasons, among many. OP should have a social life for his own benefit before worrying about picking up chicks. It's both healthy and attractive.
/r/seduction22/10/16 01:29 PM
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Just be civil, don't be butthurt or avoidant. Also, lose the friend. Unless he specifically asked you if he could date your ex, he's not your friend. However, if the host got all bitchy about bringing a +1, that's pretty shitty. Don't host a party and not expect people to want to bring their SOs. Either way though, if you want to go to the party, just go and be civil, have fun. If you don't want to, don't. It's that simple.
/r/askTRP22/10/16 01:06 PM
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Fuck that. Changing your life around to avoid your ex is retarded.
/r/askTRP22/10/16 01:02 PM
1

Or hire him him a hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 12:59 PM
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Yes. Most of them are INTP/INTJs, are on the autism spectrum, and/or have higher than normal testosterone levels. My wife is pretty sigma, and I have at least one other female friend who probably counts as a sigma. Edit: I'm a bit drunk right now, but reply to this comment and I'll try to answer in more detail tomorrow. Edit 2: Also, ADHD, introverted BPD and/or ODD helps a lot.
/r/askTRP22/10/16 06:12 AM
1

You're right. Just give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:10 AM
1

You poor thing. Life is soo hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 06:09 AM
1

You're trying to make this a black-and-white thing where that's not what I'm saying. Obviously people are more advantaged than others in certain areas. I feel like you're just here to play the why don't you--yes, but... game.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:59 PM
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Maybe not choose in the sense that you just wake up one day and decide to be. But it is something I think most people can work towards. Some people are more damaged than others, and I think therapy can be a huge help in these areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:55 PM
2

At least you're honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:49 PM
1

You're the one who brought up famous actors... shrug My point is, awkward looking guys who are charismatic, fun, charming, etc, get laid all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:42 PM
1

Steve Buscemi I know women who are in love with that guy. Radek Stepanek Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:26 PM
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I know but there is a sizable minority on the internet that holds anything not just as heuristics, but as literal laws. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:23 PM
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I don't really know what your point is... I mean, I kind of agree with most of what you said, but I suspect you meant it to be some kind of reductio ad absurdum? So many rhetorical(?) questions, but no context.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:21 PM
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People on here can be really autistic when reading TRPers. I.e., AWALT obviously doesn't mean every single woman is exactly the same. Just like how it's not literally that 80% of women exclusively have sex with some fixed 20% of men. It's meant to demonstrate a broad principle about statistical curves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:11 PM
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80% of men don't try. Ergo, most men who even bother to put in effort can be in the 20%. That's only 1 in 5, it's not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:09 PM
1

How much do you think the average beta pays on dates to get laid?
/r/askTRP21/10/16 08:59 PM
1

I just meant in general for guys who aren't getting matches, not you specifically.
/r/askTRP21/10/16 05:28 PM
1

Probably just need better pictures. If you aren't fat and have good fashion, quality of pics makes all the difference.
/r/askTRP21/10/16 04:37 PM
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I know what you meant, but convincing my body that that's what I'm doing would result in sad-trombone-penis and a strong desire to flee.
/r/askTRP21/10/16 04:27 PM
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I've seen hookers and they give me alot of shame and hurt my confidence Damn man, I can see how that would be very demoralizing. Pretty shitty hookers who would shame their own clientele. Was this before or after you fixed your appearance?
/r/askTRP21/10/16 04:07 PM
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why wouldn't she just have a conversation instead of ... Because AWALT. Women are naturally passive-aggressive and expect you to "get the hint" because they don't want to (or can't) take the responsibility for directly influencing the outcome, they will only "nudge" indirectly and expect you (the man) to take any blame and/or credit for how you handled it.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/16 04:03 PM
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Fuck that. The thought of breeding with some rando chick scares the shit out of me.
/r/askTRP21/10/16 03:49 PM
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It's a difficult shift in perspective, and hard to keep in mind in the moment. If after a few months or so you still can't break that mentality in practice, start seeing hookers a couple times a month or so. Don't feel embarrassed about it. I have a good friend who was a virgin until he was 28 or so and he had the pussy on such a high pedestal that he would ruin every chance he got by being over-eager while simultaneously self-sabotaging like you describe. Then he started seeing hookers on a sem…
/r/askTRP21/10/16 03:40 PM
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I think it depends entirely on her reasons for remaining a virgin. Just like how I think being promiscuous doesn't necessarily mean a woman is broken. Both are just indicators, shortcuts for assessing a woman's inner framework. Are most sluts broken inside and suffer from deep-seeded attachment issues? Probably, and every man would be wise to tread carefully when dealing with ("former") sluts, but some women just have higher sex drives and a moral framework that doesn't include chastity as a vir…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/16 03:27 PM
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/16 03:19 PM
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I want to go back and finish my schooling, but my pride prevents me from asking that from her. Should I put my pride aside and do it anyway? Yes. Your girl sounds like one of the rare exceptions to AWALT* (it's probably the autism) and the fact that she does things like help you eat better shows that she doesn't have much of a betaization agenda for you (edit: yet..?). Besides, there's nothing inherently beta about asking for help, especially when it's to help you become a better person. Tell he…
/r/askTRP21/10/16 03:10 PM
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I think it's just you, bro. Judging by your post/comment history, it seems you already have attachment issues and you're just looking to pin it on "pickup culture".
/r/seduction21/10/16 02:54 PM
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That's not what I said. I said it's not not about polygamy. It's not really about either because it's not about marriage, but the idea of polygamy isn't really contrary to TRP either. In fact, if you search for polygamy on the main TRP sub, you'll see quite a few posts discussing it, some for, some against, but I think in general, TRP treats the idea of polygamy fairly neutrally, with the attitude that if that's what some guys want, they should be free to pursue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 02:51 PM
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On top of all that, scarcity mentality plays a big role in this too. When a guy has little sexual experience, each potential sexual encounter feels so rare that you become terrified of "ruining it", or that if you don't pull it off just right, she won't continue to be sexually available in the future and you'll have missed your rare opportunity. The solution of course is abundance and experience. OP, next time, tell yourself you're going to just bust your nut in 3 minutes or less and expect to l…
/r/askTRP21/10/16 02:44 PM
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There are actually quite a few covert TRPers in that sub and occasionally manage to phrase a very RP response in just enough BP lingo to bypass the Hamster Red Guard and get upvoted. It's worth reading just for that.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/16 02:30 PM
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No, I mean I disagree with the idea that TRP isn't about polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 01:57 PM
2

Bury that creepy bitch under the prison!!!11 am I doing it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 01:33 AM
2

My wife makes effectively no money and does all the housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 01:22 AM
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TRP isn't really about polygamous individuals though. I beg to differ... I mean, if you want to get specific, TRP isn't really about marriage, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 01:19 AM
1

If I was going to jail for 2 months as a convicted child molester, I would probably do everything in my power to flee the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 10:46 PM
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I don't know about your roomie, but I think I might be gay for you. ;*
/r/askTRP20/10/16 09:59 PM
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Why years? Because it just "feels right" in some visceral sense that it should be years? How do we go about determining what the appropriate level of punishment is for a crime? Btw, before I get jumped for "justifying" anything or whatever, I don't know what the appropriate sentence length should be. I just find it hard to accept that we can just intuitively decide as laypeople whether or not a sentence is long "enough". Edit: ...especially since, as others have point out, he's still getting a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 09:00 PM
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I think it's mostly an exaggerated trope that men just pat boys on the back for being molested. I don't know any father who wouldn't be furious if it ever happened to their son. That isn't some kind of female superiority conspiracy Right, because that's not what gynocentrism means. It means: "Gynocentrism at its most basic, is the mandate that women and children be kept safe and provided for at the expense of men." [1] thinking women are too weak to be real criminals I never understood how it ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 08:53 PM
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I don't think people really appreciate what it's like being in jail, or how long 2 months is. Most people complain about how far away the weekend is on Wednesday. I get that people are outraged by this, but the answer isn't to "bury him under the prison!!" Seriously, what do you think is an appropriate jail sentence, and why do you think it would be more appropriate than 2 months?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 08:32 PM
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That is also part of rape culture. No, it's part of gynocentrism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 08:27 PM
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Look, I'm not saying genetics plays no role in personality development, but the scientific research demonstrates time and again that it's largely a matter of early life experience. People can and do learn how to overcome shyness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 12:40 PM
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I demand we create flairs for every color, including my favorite color: clear!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 11:16 PM
1

Wait, they have the internet in other countries now??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 11:12 PM
1

Did you read the link? And what do you mean by "miscall personality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 11:07 PM
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You're being a spergy neckbeard. Obviously he didn't mean it was a law of physics like gravity. It's an inherent part of human nature.
/r/TheRedPill19/10/16 11:01 PM
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Ask any gay man about the difference between being gay and acting like a faggot. Seriously, I think you'll find it highly educational.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:04 PM
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Kind of hard to watch what anonymous people on the internet do... I mean, you might be right, but when on the internet I give people the benefit of the doubt when they're describing their own experiences. In the real world, I expect AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:01 PM
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Well, most of the women I know agree with the general ideas of TRP, and will freely admit it to guys who "just get it" and are non-judgemental about it (ie, guys with game), especially if you give off a strong badboy player vibe who's had lots of experience with women. This includes my wife, my mother, a close female friend of mine (who actually introduced me to TRP), most of the women I've dated since discovering TRP, and many women I've just talked to at bars or within my social circle. In fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 08:10 PM
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Is any amount of being sexually "forward" not rape to you? Clearly no one on TRP is advocating for forcibly raping an unwilling woman, so I can only assume you're referring to posts that question the ever broadening definition of rape to essentially any form of contact that wasn't explicitly requested by the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 07:02 PM
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I think learning game does make you a better person. Game is just the ability to smoothly navigate the emotional/interpersonal aspect of a social interaction. Everyone has ideas about how to behave in certain social situations. For example, ask anyone for advice on how to do well in an interview and they'll gladly give you a list of specific behaviors and mentalities: firm handshake, smile, eye contact, ask questions to show genuine interest, dress nice, bring a few copies of your resume to show…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:55 PM
1

I mostly see it from self-described incels and/or "black pill" types.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:56 PM
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Oh, I get it, because all us terps do is bragplain about how much more alpha we are than each other... 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:52 PM
1

A lot of women who have a common set of personality traits which are distinctly uncommon in the general population of women. The majority of women have no interest in spending a lot of time online debating thorny, politically incorrect ideas. In fact, I would say most women would be repulsed by, or at least make negative assumptions about, people who do. At least, that's my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:48 PM
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Why can't just ignore everyone doesn't ignore everyone not ignoring everyone who is not ignoring everyone ignoring everyone? Nvm, ignore me. :p
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:43 PM
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But that's my point, they aren't primary sources regarding women other than them. Or are you suggesting AWALT, where "like that" is all women are like the specific women on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:31 PM
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Your argument seems to rest on the assumption that the experiences of women trump the experiences of men. When women say they aren't like that and therefore "women in general" aren't like that, they're to be believed at face value. But when men say their experience of the women in their like are like that, they're to be dismissed as biased or whatever. My position is a compromise: some women aren't like that, and they're usually more introverted, intellectual and internet-savvy, hence why they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:27 PM
1

Well, all personality disorders are just extreme ends of normal human behavior. I have a theory that BPD is mostly just the extreme end of feminine behavior, mixed with immaturity and a tumultuous, traumatic childhood. It's a form of CPTSD, and the extreme emotional outbursts are essentially a kind of emotional flashback.
/r/askTRP19/10/16 04:19 PM
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Firstly, I assume you're referring to my post about the women on PPD being outliers... I didn't make that point just to have an excuse to dismiss their arguments. I think it's a reasonable thing to point out that women on PPD who use themselves as counter-examples to TRP's claims are probably not the typical women men are meeting and dating in real life. In other words, when women here tell me they aren't "like that" I believe them. Is that so bad? Also, the rest of your comment is just more of …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:14 PM
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Disproportional, extreme emotional reactivity is a huge red flag either way.
/r/askTRP19/10/16 04:06 PM
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Haha! I guess that's a good thing. But I definitely did go through my anger "all women are sluts and I hate them for lying to me and not letting me be a part of it" phase. I try to be a voice of reason in TRP and help guys get to the acceptance phase as fast as possible. The acceptance phase is where it's at.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:03 PM
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So, if TRP is the cliche American movie in your analogy, what would be the equivalent of the guy learning French from a book?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:00 PM
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I meant "feminism, etc" because I wasn't sure exactly what I wanted to say there. But yeah, I mostly agree that feminism isn't the grand conspiracy a lot of RPers claim. The problem is much broader than that, and also much more unconsciously subversive. I think a lot of men and women who don't even identify as feminists harbor a lot of ideas that are destructive to masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:55 PM
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I don't disagree with that. In fact, I think it's a core principle of TRP that there are men with a more natural alpha-esque personality. I'm just disputing the idea that it's genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:30 PM
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Well, I don't think many RPers think TRP has a monopoly on its ideas, in fact it's often discussed on here and in TRP that the ideas aren't new and in fact are very old. The difference is that TRP makes the proposition that the knowledge has been either suppressed or merely lost due to feminism, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:26 PM
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Plenty of people, especially BPers think it's just something you're born with. For example, just look at the comment right next to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 01:51 PM
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Personality traits are largely a matter of early childhood, not genes. And most personality development happens earlier than 6 years old, so those kids you're talking about were already developing the personality traits from their environment and upbringing long before you saw them in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 01:49 PM
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I had almost this exact conversation in another thread. It's almost just a thinly veiled excuse to point and laugh at guys who "have to" learn it from a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 12:40 PM
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It's not a matter of caring what people think, it's a matter of whether or not it's a subject worth discussing on PPD. If we don't allow incels to whine, why should we allow self-proclaimed "naturals" to brag? Personally I don't really care if we allow it or not, I just wanted to point out the parallels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 12:37 PM
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Funny thing is, it's usually the "naturals" who are more likely to do the 180 because they don't understand what it was about them that attracted her in the first place and they'll eventually start caving in to her betafication agenda thinking that's what they're supposed to do to keep her happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 12:28 PM
2

Ok. Definitely not arguing in good faith. You're just here to prove some simplistic point to make yourself feel superior. Have fun with that "dad".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 01:45 AM
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So, you're just here to say it's not made clear enough in TRP? Go x-post your OP to TRP (sans BP vs RP circlejerking). Seriously. If bet if you remove the snark and make it an informative post, you'll get very positive feedback. But I doubt that's the whole of your point here. I suspect this is basically just concern trolling, where you're trying to imply that everyone in TRP are just a bunch of try-hard fake alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 10:44 PM
2

Dominant people don't try to act dominant or look dominant. Domineering people are the people who need to show that they are dominant and try to convince others to follow them. If you say "I want a captain first mate relationship" you are probably more domineering than dominant. A dominant person could be in a captain first mate relationship, but they probably wouldn't even know it. Other people just like to follow their lead naturally. This is just more of the "natural" vs "try-hard" nonsense. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 10:25 PM
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In that comment you said Domineering is what happens when you try to hard or get hung up on petty bullshit that true confidence would allow you to cruise right over. I, and I'm sure I speak for most of TRP, completely agree with this, and it's a subject that's discussed frequently on TRP. So again, the fact that you bring this up here as a criticism of TRP, indicates to me that you either don't actually read TRP, or you skim through intentionally looking for cringy FRs from noobs, or it's your r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:56 PM
1

So what? You made the same incorrect assumption in another comment? What is that supposed to prove?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:21 PM
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Why would I make it up? I'm telling you, I've seen it discussed often, and when newbies come in asking how to control their girlfriend, or how to force her to submit, they're always told the same thing: being controlling is for losers. Now it's your turn, smartass. Find me a source where TRP tells men to be domineering.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:12 PM
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Don't blame your dick, it's just a fatty organ. Grow up and take responsibility for your life.
/r/askTRP18/10/16 08:56 PM
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Source: 3 years studying TRP. This isn't Wikipedia. Go read for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:55 PM
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The difference between being dominant and being domineering is discussed extensively in TRP. And your cheap caricature of TRP's views on this demonstrate that you clearly don't read TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:29 PM
4

Sounds like BPD. I would advise running like hell.
/r/askTRP18/10/16 08:25 PM
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I suppose what I'm asking is if my situation is way too fucked for me to continue pursuing 18 year old? Do you like drama? Because this is how you get drama.
/r/askTRP18/10/16 08:23 PM
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This was exactly me 2 years ago. So many guys need to hear this. Thanks OP.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/16 02:46 PM
2

After reading NMMNG, check out Way of the Superior Man. It's a great book about masculinity in general, and it's written specifically in a way that can be applied by women. He even very clearly says in the intro that his book can apply in non-hetero relationships, and says he wish he could have titled the book "Way of the Superior Masculine Energy" but his publisher said it would be too wordy. :P It's one of my favorite TRP-related books and I think it can really apply in your situation.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/10/16 12:44 PM
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This is some of the most level-headed analysis I've seen from TRP. It's nice to see that the nuance of this kind of stuff isn't completely gone. I get so tired of all the simple-minded know-it-alls on TRP bandying about tired cliches.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:55 PM
1

Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:38 PM
1

It really depends on your and her attitude about it. If she's doing it as a submissive act for your pleasure, then it's definitely alpha. If she's doing it with any kind of spiteful or demeaning attitude toward you, it's a cuckold relationship, and beta af. Being the high demand guy who can turn his girl out is great. I'm pretty much in this situation myself. Check out Rosebudd's book American Pimp. For a quick-ish overview of the book and it's application to non-pimp game, Jeffy from RSD has a …
/r/askTRP17/10/16 04:07 PM
1

Which genes specifically are omega genes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:13 AM
1

Why do you think omega traits are inherently genetic? What if a guy who has good genes was just raised by a shitty single mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:41 PM
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What you guys think about bald Indians? I think bald Indians bragplain too much.
/r/askTRP16/10/16 05:56 PM
1

Yep. And that's the essence of good game, and the reason TRP puts do much emphasis on outcome independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 04:58 PM
1

I hope you're stocked up on tampons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:26 PM
1

I have a hard time believing you know actual RPers in real life. Are you sure they aren't just guys trying to act macho that you assume read TRP? I've never met another RPer in real life. On Youtube, when I search for "the red pill" I mostly find videos about the MRA documentary with Paul Elam, which isn't the same thing as TRP. Elam didn't even make the documentary, it was made by a feminist woman. I don't know if she is confused about the term, or just independently came up with the idea of us…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:23 PM
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I'm in the "the world is the way it is, accept it and find a way to live a relatively happy life within it" camp of the RP. I understand the anger a lot of guys express, but I am hopeful that most of the guys on TRP will eventually move past the anger phase and learn to enjoy women again. I think women can bring a lot of value to a man's life, as long as he doesn't fall in to a hopeless-romantic fantasy and lose sight of reality. As for you "examples" of manipulation... You show her love one day…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:15 PM
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So, it seems you're implying that I argue in bad faith, and you're intentionally doing it to me to be spiteful or something? When I have argued in bad faith? I'm TRP now because I say I am!!!!!!!!1111 WTF is this even supposed to be about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:56 PM
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The jargon isn't vague, and it certainly isn't intentionally crafted to be evasive. What would be the point in that? TRP isn't evangelical, it's just a space for men to discuss and learn, so there's no need to be ambiguous to avoid criticism. Perhaps what you're seeing is that there is a lot of discussion within the TRP community about things like which aspects of AWALT are universal, and which are only warnings about potential problems; or which aspects of the Chad archetype should be learned f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:48 PM
1

Sounds cringy and creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:41 PM
2

If they notice that you are just faking everything they think of you will crumble and there won't be any respect left because they start to wonder what is wrong with you that you don't have social skills of your own and have to sloppily copy what others are doing. Imagine you meet this nice respectable woman that could be the perfect mother for your kids, but then she slips up and kicks a puppy and spits on the ground right next to you. You were attracted to her because she seemed to be such a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:39 PM
1

Can you give me an example of which parts of TRP would be the proverbial "punch trees" in your analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:35 PM
1

How many have you seen?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:34 PM
1

TRP doesn't teach shit. Ok, now you're definitely arguing in bad faith. Clearly TRP does teach something, even if you personally disagree with that it teaches. If those guys screaming how alpha they are An obvious over-blown caricature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:32 PM
1

I think you just confirmed my point. You're talking about guys who are obviously "trying". What TRP is trying to teach men is how to develop and internalize a mentality that results in a natural shift in behavior toward a smooth, effortless charm. But you're still picturing try-hard, over-blown and ultimately unsuccessful attempts to be this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:22 PM
1

Right, but my point is that a lot of BP people think it's creepy, full stop, and don't realize that with practice and a proper understanding of the nuance and subtlety, it's actually very charming and attractive. In other words, it would be like mocking people in /r/bodybuilding for being "fake swole" on the grounds that most of the guys there are probably skinny-fat nerds "trying" to be fit. Of course everyone starts somewhere, but dismissing and even shaming people for trying to improve on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:19 PM
2

Elliot Roger was anti-PUA, and I doubt he ever even heard of TRP. He was as BP as you could get. I get so tired of people blaming us for Elliot Roger...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:11 PM
1

Omega males should remain omega males and be content with what they can get. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:08 PM
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Right, and a major purpose of TRP is to try to teach men to develop the inner mentalities that result in that more natural feeling. But sometimes you have to start off in that cringy area, be exposed to failure, until you start to refine and internalize the subtleties of it all. It's like a scrawny nerd going to the gym. He's always going to look awkward and cringy trying to do deadlifts, but that's no reason for him to not do it. Eventually he'll start to refine his form and develop the CNS coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 02:06 PM
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Lesbian relationships are also several times more likely to be physically abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:27 PM
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It's literally not even talking about PMS.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:23 PM
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Of course that is not proof all women only fuck the 20 guys in the world who are Chads, trap and manipulate their geeky beta husbands, and make false rape accusations for attention either. Cuz I know where you're going with this. Nope, that's not where I was going with this because that's an obvious caricature of TRP and I think you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:28 PM
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I've addressed the "terpers are outliers too!" argument a dozen times in this thread already.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:37 PM
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Every man puts in effort. Women just sit back and judge. And if the effort is apparent, it's dismissed as fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:30 PM
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Right. Those "natural" guys were blessed with positive role models and experiences that shaped the subtleties of their behavior. But when men who didn't have those kind of influences as children/adolescents get together to try to correct their maladaptive attitudes and behaviors, they're shamed for being "fake" or "manipulative".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:28 PM
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I completely agree. And the point is that there are subtle nuances and tells that make the difference between what's naturally charismatic, and what's awkward and creepy, and those nuances are hard to explain in text.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:23 PM
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Yep, that's a big part of it. Another thing I think that really influences this is the notion that some people are just "naturally" charismatic and confident and that anyone "trying" to develop that is being "fake", or worse, are trying to "trick" women in to fucking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:16 PM
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Also, you have to acknowledge that there are a lot people who act extremely incredulous that any woman can be "like that", or at a minimum get really defensive if a guy even implies that not all women are wonderful people. I'm not even talking about TRP's idea of AWALT, I mean even normal guys looking for advice on /r/relationships are met with a bunch of women and white knights rushing in to rationalize and excuse the woman's behavior or generally just engaging in a bunch of "I'm not like that!…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:56 PM
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Oh, I'm sure. But it's the Internet. There are always going to be narrow-minded know-it-alls, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:48 PM
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I do agree that there are a lot of guys on TRP who also misunderstand what TRP is trying to convey. I cringe when I see guys posting on TRP bragging about how tough they are or whatever. But that only further illustrates my point that analytical text descriptions of it often give a wrong impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:26 PM
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I think there are just a lot of men who were raised with maladaptive beliefs about women, sexuality and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:24 PM
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I'm just here to debate because I enjoy debate, not because I'm butthurt about disapproval or anything. Your argument is basically that anyone who has to "try" to convince you is evidence in itself that they're wrong. It's a "denial is a river in Egypt" kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:21 PM
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Of course it's true that most men on TRP are here because they need help. My point is that people dismiss TRP as inherently creepy, without recognizing that what TRP teaches is attractive when done well. People often like to say it's the actual behavior that's creepy, and I'm saying it's only creepy when poorly executed with the wrong attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:16 PM
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Ok, I see. I do agree that some of the more extreme experiences described by RPers are probably outlier experiences. But it's a matter of bell curves. Some of the worst experiences are at one end of the bell curve, but I also think that most of the women here are just on the other end of the bell curve, and that a lot of the women here too quickly dismiss the experiences of men because they don't identify with it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:13 PM
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But see, this is exactly the kind of bad-faith assumption I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:42 PM
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Exactly. "You're talking about it on the internet, and only nerds talk about things on the internet, therefore you're just an awkward nerd trying not to be an awkward nerd."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:40 PM
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Circlejerkiness aside, I agree that anyone who has to announce that they're alpha probably isn't. But that's not the point. TRP doesn't teach men to go around proclaiming their alpha status as a substitute for learning real self-confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:38 PM
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I never claimed RPers aren't outliers, but I don't see how it's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:35 PM
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What is creepy is subjective to the person. Sure, but subjective doesn't mean there aren't general trends and ranges of behavior that people in general will find creepier than not. Subjective doesn't mean random. The point TRP is trying to teach is that there are certain modes of behavior that are generally more attractive than others, and my point is that when those behaviors and attitudes are spelled out in a logical way, people in general, especially people reading in bad faith, will think so…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:33 PM
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Well, what is your point exactly? You answered your own question: I think quite a few (not all!) people on here are a hell of a lot more self-aware than most people I encounter on a daily basis. Like...how does my behaviour and what I bring to the table affect my results? A lot of people I've encountered IRL clearly haven't applied a critical lens to themselves in years, maybe ever. Which was basically my point. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:28 PM
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Ok, but I don't see how what you've said addresses my point in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:26 PM
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Yeah, it was pretty cringy, hence the "WTF"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:19 PM
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Creepy is not a subjective term, it's a feeling that is dependent on the person. I don't think you know what subjective means... But if I think it is creepy, then it's creepy. If someone else thinks it's creepy, it's creepy. So, if I said I thought you were creepy, does that make it so?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:18 PM
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WTF did I just watch?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:02 PM
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Ahh, right. Yeah, because it makes what would normally be perceived as lighthearted confidence when encountered in real life seem like a "cheap trick".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:54 PM
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A) Women who use Reddit aren't "normal" in other ways. Well, I think it's pretty clear that having a preference or interest in engaging in intellectual debate on the internet is likely to be indicative of, or at least correlate to, broader differences in general interests, preferences, behavior, etc. B) The women on PPD are outliers any more than the men are. I didn't say men here aren't outliers as well, but I don't see how that's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:51 PM
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:47 PM
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Well, my point wasn't that physical attractiveness is the linchpin, but it certainly is relevant. But yeah, in general, attractive people can be creepy, and unattractive people can be charming, and with the right attitude and behavior, can still pull off the kind of stunts that Russell Brand gets away with, although maybe not to the same degree or in such a public way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:41 PM
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Sure, it's not a secret nerd clubhouse, but I think you're also overestimating the popularity. According to this thread Reddit has about 44 million user accounts. Even just compared to the population of the US (318m), that's only 14%. But of course, even though the US might represent the majority of Reddit users, it's certainly not all of them. And I don't think it would be unreasonable to assume that the majority of Reddit users are male. And that's not even considering the fact that A) a signi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:38 PM
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AWALT is a generalization about tendencies. I'm not suggesting that the women here are immune to AF/BB or other TRP ideas. Like most things in human psychology, there are bell curves, and I think the women on PPD tend to be further out on the fringes of these bell curves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:35 PM
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I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:28 PM
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I think the most common reason women do most of the breaking up is simply because A) men tend to be more committed in relationships, and B) women have more (perceived) options than men, so there's less of a fear of ending up alone if their current relationship ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:25 PM
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I've been reading threads for almost 3 years, and I disagree with RPers on a regular basis, so I'm definitely not just siding with "team red".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:11 PM
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all women, every day, 24/7. That's not at all what TRP says. You're constructing an obvious strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:07 PM
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just like every other woman So, you're saying... AWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:06 PM
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Oh, I definitely agree that there's more to it than looks, but A) you didn't see OP's pic, and B) when you have women literally running away from you, it's not for a simple lack of game. In fact, OP would probably have better luck if he wore mascara and black nail polish. That works because it makes you fascinatingly unique and "out there". OP just looks meek, scared, twerpy and a bit like Brock Turner with an even skinnier neck.
/r/seduction15/10/16 03:04 PM
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As I said: what TRP describes is generally true for most of the women in the SMP that most men encounter The fact that there may or may not be "good" women out there, sitting at home, typing away on reddit/etc, doesn't change the fact that most men in the dating market are going to be exposed more often to the social butterfly, attention seeking kind of women. As far as AF/BB, I think it is generally true of women, even if "a lot" of women have the self-awareness/-control to not act on it. My po…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 02:58 PM
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What did you text? Seems like this would be relevant...
/r/askTRP15/10/16 12:44 AM
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Not your diary. You know what to do, you just want to feel like someone "understands".
/r/askTRP15/10/16 12:43 AM
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As they say in PUA, GFTOW (go fuck ten other women/men/whatever)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:40 AM
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Do you want the validation that getting your mistress to fuck your wife is cool? I do! I do! :P On a side note, my wife just told me she's thinking about hiring me a hooker for a threesome for my bday. I have to admit, it feels fucking awesome. XD
/r/askMRP15/10/16 12:26 AM
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Do you really think Trump is spending hours own money? Sure he spent some of his own money at first to get started, but the vast majority of his campaign is funded by donations, just like every other campaign. And I'm not saying this because I like Trump, in fact I think he's a dangerous sociopath, but pointing out that he's "rich" is ignorant. They're all relatively rich, and they didn't get rich by spending their own money, they got rich by convincing other people to give, invest and spend the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:17 AM
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That 50% probably isn't ok with banging a married guy anyway. If you're hot enough, your game is tight, and you have a caddish vibe, you'll actually attract more women with the ring due to pre-selection and bad-boy status. It all depends on your frame and the style of game you're running. If you've read The Art of Seduction, the kind of game I'm talking about the "rake". Edit: it also depends on age. If he's over 30, being married makes him look successful. Unmarried men past 30 look like losers…
/r/askTRP14/10/16 08:38 PM
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Ok dude. I'm going to be blunt, so take this as serious constructive feedback. You look like gay. But there's hope! Firstly, fix your hair. Grow it a bit longer and find a good gay barber/stylist. Tell him you want to look good for the ladies. Create a throwaway account and post a few pics to /r/malefashionadvice. Secondly, even though your pic is just neck-up, I can tell you are scrawny as fuck. Get a gym membership and Google "stronglifts 5x5". You're never going to get anywhere as a doe-eyed,…
/r/seduction14/10/16 05:49 PM
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Firstly, join us over at /r/RedPillNonMonogamy. :) Secondly, as another comment said, go ahead and wear the ring. Let girls think you're cheating. There's a special thrill for girls to think they're sneaking around with a committed, high-demand man, and they might have a chance of stealing you away (oh the validation!) It's all a game anyway, the game of emotions. There is no reality other than how she feels.
/r/askTRP14/10/16 05:38 PM
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There's a huge misconception about the dark triad around here. TRP teach that women are attracted to dark triad type behavior, but the point isn't too actually become a narcissistic psychopath. It's just to learn what kind of behaviors and attitudes women find attractive. Women fall for narcissists and psychopaths because they are gullible and confuse it with confidence and inner strength. The secret is to have that confidence and inner strength without actually being a narcissistic psychopath.
/r/askTRP14/10/16 05:30 PM
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What do you look like?
/r/seduction14/10/16 05:26 PM
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/r/RedPillNonMonogamy
/r/askMRP14/10/16 12:36 PM
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I think that's a very interesting analogy. In fact, in writing my last comment, I was thinking about going in to my theory about how women tend to think about sex like junk food.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:44 AM
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Why wouldn't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 12:28 AM
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/r/raisedbynarcissists
/r/askTRP13/10/16 11:51 PM
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I'm in my mid 30s and I still jerk off every morning, have sex with my wife at least 4-5 times a week, and sex with other women as often as I can, including swinger clubs. I hope it never goes away, and I worry about it at lot. I have started noticing that I don't get morning wood as often as I used to and it kind of scares me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 11:05 PM
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Can't a person do all those things and also read about other people's experiences and what they've learned?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:30 PM
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"Never bother learning anything from anyone, just lurch headlong in to every situation and hope you figure it out! And if you don't, just accept defeat because learning things is for losers!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:02 PM
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WTF? Where did OP even imply anything to the contrary?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:01 PM
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People confuse "the blue pill" with r/TBP or people on PPD who disagree with TRP. The problem here is that when we refer to "the blue pill", we're talking about a general lack of awareness to the deeper underlying realities, not to some specific alternative to "the red pill". The blue pill is just the sum of dating, sexuality and gender related ideas found in mainstream media and culture, usually with a generic feminist bent. It's what most RPers used to believe unconsciously and unquestioningly…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:13 PM
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I think OP's point is that we constantly hear all this whining from women/SJWs/whatever about "street harassment", "cat-calling", or more generally just complaints about men approaching and hitting on women, or not "taking a hint". A common mild example is women who tell men they aren't interested in that they're "busy" any time the guy invites her out, and the guy doesn't get it that "busy" means "busy forever, as far as you're concerned", but instead he interprets it as "busy right now, try ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:50 PM
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Firstly, high demand girls, especially in college are always going to jump from one "boyfriend" (i.e, guy she's banging for a few weeks/months) to another. You're never going to be relevant 100% of the time with her. Outcome independence and abundance mentality are key here. Secondly, be one of those "fuckboys", just make sure you keep a discreet and abundant frame. Girls love fucking fuckboys, as long as they are sure he'll be discreet and can feel her hamster enough plausible deniability and r…
/r/askTRP13/10/16 05:17 PM
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How about some context? I googled PNL and as far as I can tell it's some of of French rap band.
/r/askTRP13/10/16 05:12 PM
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Set your frame that you don't "do serious", and if she's not ok with that, LSNFTE (long soft next for temporary exclusivity). Basically, chicks go through this hamster cycle. They'll sleep around with hot players, then after a while they'll feel guilty for being a slut, and decide they're supposed to lock some guy down for a short-term monogamous "relationship" so they can feel better about themselves (I call this the "sex diet") until they get restless again and/or the guy they're with starts t…
/r/askTRP13/10/16 05:08 PM
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The average woman desires trump men in a purely sexual manner to a much lower extent than the average man desires miss universe women in a purely sexual manner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:35 PM
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I highly recommend TAOS. It's goes much deeper in to the underlying theories and psychology of it, and it's rooted in a lot of real research, both modern and historical. It's also a great compliment to Models because Greene isn't coming from a PUA background, his theories and writing is completely independent of all that, but it's great to see how he comes to a lot of the same conclusions in different ways.
/r/askTRP12/10/16 08:16 PM
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I think you'll be surprised how un-fragile she really is once you start establishing a strong frame. Her fragility is one part shit test, and one part feeling a lack of strength and security from you. Remember, her emotional and mental strength comes from feeling your mental and emotional strength.
/r/askMRP12/10/16 08:12 PM
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I was thinking about this post today and I suddenly remembered a great youtube video that does a good job of (somewhat sarcastically and humorously) explaining female mind games and how if you lose the dominance game, it will ruin the relationship for both of you. He specifically talks about fetch-n-get games, etc, and even does a pretty good job of explaining the difference between shit tests and comfort tests (he doesn't use those terms).
/r/askMRP12/10/16 03:37 PM
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Think of it this way. You're on the internet venting to thousands of random strangers about how your wife vents to her one friend. If you need an entire online community to vent and seek support, why shouldn't she have one friend she can do the same with? What you should really be thinking about is her behavior toward you as you go through this process of unplugging and fixing your shit.
/r/askMRP12/10/16 03:27 PM
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A cogent and well reasoned rebuttal. I shall have to go and carefully reconsider my views. Thanks you good sir for taking the time to educate me.
/r/askTRP12/10/16 03:24 PM
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While Machiavelli was writing about the politics of men, it's a special class of men who do this. Most men are oblivious to the subtleties of political maneuvering in social settings. Most men tend to use straight-talk almost exclusively, while the female social matrix is deeply Machiavellian by nature. I'm pretty sure more men have experienced ghosting and sudden, unexpected breakups than women, and women tend to use the silent treatment in relationships far more often than men. From my experie…
/r/askTRP12/10/16 03:06 PM
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Take a second to seriously consider what I'm about to ask you... How would you handle this situation if you had a hot girlfriend who blew you on the regular? If you would still want to help this girl through her problems, cool then do it... while continuing to meet other women. Otherwise, if you wouldn't be so inclined to help this girl if you had a hot girlfriend, then you should consider the possibility that you're subconsciously trying to friend your way in to her pants and are just rationali…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:05 PM
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Dude, she's allowed to go to her friend for help and advice. This isn't a "privacy" issue, because it's a part of her life too, and people talk to friends about what's troubling them in their life. I have a friend that I tell everything to, and I trust him to keep it between us. My wife has expressed concern that I would tell my friend about our problems, and I just said "babe, I tell him everything, he's my best friend and we talk about everything, and at the end of the day, he knows relationsh…
/r/askMRP12/10/16 01:50 PM
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To paraphrase Robert Greene, women invented seduction, but men turned it in to an art. Read The Art of Seduction, it talks quite a bit about this.
/r/askTRP12/10/16 01:39 PM
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Ok, fair enough. But I still think it would be better for him to learn how to handle shit tests than to just avoid any situation where he might get shit tested. Especially when it's such a simple shit test like "fetch me some water, servant boy."
/r/askMRP12/10/16 01:24 PM
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I don't know man, I agree with you to a point, but it doesn't have to be black and white. You don't have to be doing shit every waking hour to be masculine. Everyone deserves some downtime. Just because a guy spends some time in the evening to relax doesn't make him a "a video gamer who won't turn it off and do something real."
/r/askMRP12/10/16 12:50 PM
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Fuck that! This is all walking on eggshells out of fear that your wife might revoke your man card. I agree with Archwinger to a point, but everyone has a right to downtime, and you shouldn't have to hide from your wife to get it.
/r/askMRP12/10/16 12:39 PM
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Check out this video on how to find a red pill therapist
/r/askTRP12/10/16 12:19 PM
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All of them.
/r/askTRP11/10/16 10:53 PM
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Maybe being too much of a "friend" and not escalating the sexual vibe enough?
/r/seduction11/10/16 09:37 PM
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Sounds crazy. Block her number.
/r/askTRP11/10/16 08:02 PM
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Get therapy. Being /r/raisedbynarcissists will do serious damage do you, and it probably runs much deeper than you even realize.
/r/askTRP11/10/16 12:20 PM
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without making them a big deal. You mean without her making a big deal out of it if you say no? Let her make a big deal out of it. Are you scared of her emotions?
/r/askMRP11/10/16 12:14 PM
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Honestly, I'm with you OP, I don't get it either. But a lot of guys get a visceral reaction to the idea of a girl fucking other guys. To each their own, if that's the relationships they want, they have every right to set the conditions. If they find girls who are OK with it, more power to them I guess.
/r/askTRP10/10/16 08:50 PM
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Idk man, I think the problem might be your negative, defeatist attitude. You didn't "know" shit about whether it was going to work out, you just assumed. But whatever man, you asked for my opinion.
/r/seduction10/10/16 08:46 PM
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Ok, well, here are a few things. Firstly, why give up just because she said she was busy? Women will throw up obstacles, either because they're nervous, or don't want to be too "easy" or whatever, and it's your job as a man to find a solution. I would have at least tried to text back something like "don't be shy, let's hang out" or "I promise I don't bite... hard." Better than just giving up. Secondly, when you're gong for the number, come up with something specific and fun you want to do with h…
/r/seduction10/10/16 07:24 PM
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If you're going to let one flaky girl make you want to give up on women entirely, then yeah, you probably should just go ahead and get castrated and move in to a monastery. Jeez dude...
/r/seduction10/10/16 06:35 PM
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I think you handled it just fine. There are appropriate times for righteous, explosive anger, but this wasn't one of them. Also, never "yell", if you do have to emphasize your anger with your voice, talk slower and deeper.
/r/askTRP10/10/16 06:05 PM
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That's quite a list of assumptions about me, most of which are incorrect. Trump displays all the classic signs of NPD. The reason I say that is because I had a narcissist in my life who imploded and caused a serious shit show in my life that tore apart multiple close friendships and relationships, drove my best friend to accidental suicide via Xanax/alcohol overdose, and almost destroyed my marriage. I've been to multiple therapists over the past few years and I still sometimes start shaking unc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 04:27 PM
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I don't understand the obsession with Trump either. I think he's an empty-headed blowhard who probably has severe NPD. Nothing about him is alpha. Resorting to shallow personal attacks anytime someone disagrees with you, and then whining about how "unfairly" you're treated is not alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:50 PM
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I firmly believe that polyamory is a sexual orientation just like being gay or straight. I'm a naturally polyamorous person myself. Your story is similar to mine. My wife and I were both cheating on each other and caught each other (actually, she caught me first and just never said anything about it until I started to suspect her). Long story short we did pretty much what you did, we figured we just weren't capable of monogamy and agreed to an open marriage. A lot of people on TRP will tell you …
/r/askTRP10/10/16 03:31 PM
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It's more likely she's trying to sell herself a good girl image. Hook up with her, date her, whatever, just don't expect a loyal, long-term relationship.
/r/askTRP10/10/16 02:54 PM
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I would say it's probably not worth it. What I would recommend would be to start contributing to open source programs. Find an open source project that interests you and spend a few months helping them fix bugs, implement features, etc. Use your real name on your github/sourceforge account. That'll both give you real-world experience, and can be a sort of "portfolio" you can include in a resume when applying for entry-level developer jobs. It'll be a hell of a lot cheaper and quicker than going …
/r/askTRP10/10/16 12:02 PM
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That might be a bit more focused on academics, but even then, most companies will value skill and experience.
/r/askTRP10/10/16 01:11 AM
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If you don't see why the second picture is more attractive to women, I think that shows how little you know about what women find attractive. The first picture shows him as meek, approval-seeking (that over-eager smile), and awkwardly infantile. The second picture he's more confident and masculine. His posture is better. The way his hands and arms are positioned make him look like he's about to take charge of something. And even his arms looks bigger and stronger in the second. Anyway, I don't m…
/r/seduction09/10/16 08:41 PM
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Seriously, take a look at this picture. Take a second and ask yourself how attractive this guy is to women. Now look at this picture. See the difference? They're both Keanu Reeves. The difference is hair, facial hair, clothing, style, posture, etc. Those things all make a big difference in how people perceive you.
/r/seduction09/10/16 07:58 PM
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I don't know, I'm just hypothesizing. But you seem to be trying to come up with reasons to not seek out more thorough feedback. Seriously, don't worry about what I think about your one, admittedly bad, photo. Get someone to take a few decent pictures of you in good lighting, and post them in places like /r/malefashionadvice, /r/rateme, etc, and get real feedback from people who don't know you and have no reason to be nice to you.
/r/seduction09/10/16 07:55 PM
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Ok. Well, you came here for advice, and I gave you my honest opinion.
/r/seduction09/10/16 07:45 PM
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Compare these two statements: I believe in Zeus, the God of thunder I don't believe in the Easter Bunny By your standards, both of these statements require "faith". Obviously, that's ridiculous.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/16 07:36 PM
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The big problem with Tinder is that I can't set my profile as "married" or "open relationship". Sure, I can say something about that in the free-form text in my description, but there's no way within the structure of the app to narrow the field for people who are ok with open or poly relationships, so the vast majority of the people who swipe right on my profile are either going to A) not read my bio text and just swipe right and then lose interest (or even become incensed) when I tell them I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 04:18 PM
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But how much of their scientific research is based in faith, which by definition is the belief in something without evidence, or even in spite of evidence to the contrary. The answer of course is that none of their actual published research is rooted in "faith".
/r/TheRedPill09/10/16 04:11 PM
1

Yeah, I'm on tinder too, but it's mostly the same problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 04:06 PM
4

The appeal to faith is a common fallacy. I prefer to not have any beliefs that are not rooted in solid reasoning and evidence, and I strive to eliminate any such beliefs in my own thinking. Not all beliefs are based in "faith", which by definition is a subset of beliefs which a person chooses to believe without evidence. Beliefs which are rooted in evidence are not based on faith.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/16 04:02 PM
6

What assumption am I making with the statement "I have no reason to believe in a god"?
/r/TheRedPill09/10/16 02:31 PM
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This is a classic false dichotomy. In reality, atheism does not require any faith. I don't have to "believe in nothing", I just have to say "I have no reason to believe in a god". Of course, you'll say that I have to have some belief about, say, the origin of the universe; but of course that's bullshit. I don't have any "belief" about the origin of the universe, because I don't know how the universe began. Scientific study has yielded a number of possible explanations, each with their own underl…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/16 02:14 PM
2

It really depends. Firstly, women can think you look "good" without thinking you look "sexy". It's the same way women will go on and on about how they want a "nice" guy but they still keep finding and dating assholes. Personally I think your hair just looks like a jew-fro.
/r/seduction09/10/16 01:51 PM
2

I work in IT as a senior Linux administrator and I make over 90k/yr with no college degree. Most places only care about experience. The trick of course, is how to get those first few years of experience without a degree. My first tech job was as a hardware stress tester for 2 years. Since it involved enterprise scale server hardware, networking, OS installation, etc, it gave me enough resume fodder to move on to a real IT job.
/r/askTRP09/10/16 01:49 PM
2

Recording in public isn't illegal, and a lot of US states have single-party consent laws, meaning only one person in the conversation needs to consent to recording for it to be legal.
/r/seduction09/10/16 01:43 PM
1

Go post some pics in /r/malefashionadvice, /r/Rateme, etc. You'll get real feedback that way.
/r/seduction09/10/16 01:38 PM
5

Are you autistic? Or do you really believe that TRP and PPD are the only places you can spend your time?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:29 AM
2

Outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 01:08 AM
2

What does this have to do with TRP?
/r/askTRP09/10/16 01:03 AM
2

To be able to plausibly deny something...? What kind of question is this?
/r/askTRP08/10/16 10:19 PM
0

This is a dog/mammal distinction. It's not that I'm surprised that queers have non-normal sex lives. The point of this discussion is that most people who have non-normal sex lives tend to be liberal SWJ types.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 10:17 PM
3

Again, that's great for swingers, but most swingers aren't open or poly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 08:49 PM
2

Maybe I'll look a bit deeper. Either way, I think we're getting a bit off topic. I think my point stands. There are far more SJW types in the poly community than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:24 PM
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And yes, my wife and I do go to the local swing club, but most swingers aren't open or poly, they're just swingers. Edit: some swingers are also hotwife/cuckold couples, but that's not the same thing. Edit 2: and I don't use "cuckold" negatively, it's the name of a genuine fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:20 PM
2

FetLife is Facebook for BDSM/fetish, it's not a dating site. I have a FetLife account, but you can't look for matches or anything on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:19 PM
2

What are the alternatives? PoF doesn't allow married people, and I don't think Match.com has any good options for poly/open/swinger people. There's Adult Friend Finder, but that's even more geared toward hookups than OKC. Edit: OKC is pretty much the go-to site for all alternative lifestyle dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:05 PM
1

This has been discussed extensively on here before. Check the search bar --->
/r/askTRP08/10/16 06:50 PM
0

90+% of the "poly" women I find on OKCupid use multiple polysyllabic words to describe their "gender identity". E.g., while writing this, I went to my OKC account, set my search filters to "non-monogamous" and clicked on the very first match. Here is her(?) "details": "Pansexual, Straight, Gay, Bisexual, Homoflexible, Genderfluid, Woman, Man, Single, 5’ 8”, Thin". And they all live in the next town over where there's a notoriously liberal university. It's not just confirmation bias, because I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 05:43 PM
3

Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 05:32 PM
2

You sound like you have given up :p. Good for the rest of us :D. WTF? Where did you even get that from what I said. I just said men have to work to get anywhere in life. I'm glad to do it, and I bust my ass and I don't complain. You're the one whining about it. Yeah, thats what i love to do :D. sarcasm. Seriously, how many 30s, 40s and 50s single women have you met? I havent met a single freaking women who dont get into that discussion in the first meeting. First fucking meeting, they have to kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 09:28 PM
1

And 40-20% whinning loosers who think they have figured out trp and mgtow :D Firstly, there are plenty of guys on the who really do have some shit figured out. Secondly, TRP is not MGTOW, so I don't know why you're equating the two. Stop demeaning others for your own benefit. Um... Perhaps you should go back and re-read our conversation. I'm pretty sure 90% of put-downs weren't coming from me. Also one lIttle advice, saying what women like and agreeing to their views might get you some up votes …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 09:24 PM
1

Its stupid low IQed brains like yours, i am worried about. ... And more importantly, higher iq-ed men are seen as lower smv. This is also genocide or eugenics on intelligence. I don't normally talk about my IQ, but since you think it's a deciding factor here, I'll just say I'm a member of the High IQ Society, and I've been offered an honorary membership in Mensa after I wrote them with a correction on one of Mensa Press' self-scoring IQ tests. If you think high IQ is what's keeping you from gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 09:09 PM
2

Dude can you read english or do i have to sit you down and teach you shit like you are a little kid? Reading and understanding is a two-way street. I understood your comment just fine. I just happen to disagree with it in particular ways. You seem to have difficulty understanding that it's even possible for people to have different ideas without assuming that everyone who doesn't agree with you is an illiterate child; which is frankly a fairly childish perspective, TBH. Now what i meant was, an …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:41 PM
2

I know, I'm just responding to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:02 PM
2

Swole-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 05:04 PM
3

The content on r/TRP is about 60-80% whining losers who don't know shit about "the red pill".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 05:01 PM
2

Go read some of the stories in /r/swoleacceptance. It's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:34 PM
5

Dear journal, today TBP was a pretty cool dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:24 PM
5

the betas on TRP who hate on chad. So true. Chad gets a bad rep in both TRP and TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:22 PM
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I've never seen mainstream/BP/feminists campaigning that bodybuilders set an "unrealistic body image for men". Sure, there's plenty of swole-shaming, but that's not the same thing. Edit: also, I do want to say that I really enjoyed the rest of your comment. It's not often I see such level-headed commentary here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:18 PM
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It seems like you're implying that TRP is sexually egalitarian in the way that liberals are economically egalitarian. This couldn't be further from the truth. Nothing about TRP says anything like "men should have more equal opportunity for sex with women" or whatever. Sure there are some whiners on TRP, but they're either noobs or they just don't get it. TRP is all about a laissez-faire SM, and successfully competing within it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 02:26 PM
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Being a kissless virgin at 23 is kind of a big deal. If he doesn't bust a nut soon, he'll start to get "weird". I have a friend who was a virgin at until 26 and he definitely started getting weird about women and sex and the thirst only gets stronger and more obvious. Then he started seeing hookers and everything started changing with his attitude. Now he's a relaxed, charming guy. He's had 4 or 5 girlfriends and is currently in a 2 year relationship with a pretty cool HB6 who is a freak in bed.…
/r/askTRP07/10/16 12:53 PM
4

Exactly. I mean, it must take a very special kind of victim mentality to equate increasing your own value with lowering your standards. "These two opposite things are actually the same thing!" WTF?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 12:13 PM
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Idk, bro. Definitely sounds like whining to me. I've fucked my fair share of fatties too. But the world is the way it is and you can either accept it and work within it, or you can make yourself miserable whining about it. Edit: also, stop talking to women about your job or salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 12:02 PM
3

Mine too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 11:26 PM
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TRP noobs, incels, "blackpill", etc whine about women's standards. Guys who have been implementing TRP for a while usually don't. Sometimes you'll see posts lamenting women's hypocrisy though. I've seen screenshots of girls on tinder talking about how they only date tall men, and when the guy even hints that he doesn't like fat women she flips out. Wish I could find that post again, it was pretty hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 10:09 PM
5

Yeah, sounds like bro-science mumbo jumbo.
/r/seduction06/10/16 07:57 PM
1

Do it.
/r/askTRP06/10/16 05:12 PM
2

Wtf?
/r/askTRP06/10/16 05:11 PM
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Damn dude. I wish I had some good advice, I really do. Best I can do is upvote you hoping someone else can help. I've been suicidal before with major depression, but never chronic pain. I know how it feels to be suicidal. All I can say is don't do it. I know you're tired of "bright future" bullshit, but you need to hold on and get help. Next time you're feeling that urge, call a hotline. I know it sounds cheesy, but I've done it several times, and it really can help. Have you looked for groups i…
/r/askTRP06/10/16 05:10 PM
5

Congratulations, you're guy #573 to passively "give her your number" this week.
/r/seduction06/10/16 04:48 PM
1

I'm not going to get tied up in a debate about semantics. The point is, human psychology is a tad more complex than some common English dictionary definitions. Not all manipulation is explicitly intentional. A lot of the time it's just a learned defense mechanism or some other cognitive pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 04:35 PM
1

defence mechanisms are psychological strategies brought into play by the unconscious mind[4] to manipulate, deny, or distort reality in order to defend against feelings of anxiety and unacceptable impulses and to maintain one's self-schema.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 04:20 PM
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"I'm only kidding! Jeez...what is your problem? You don't have to be SO sensitive!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 12:48 PM
1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_mechanisms
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 12:27 PM
3

I don't think it's necessarily "purposeful" in the sense that it's some evil, cunning strategy. There's a spectrum of manipulation ranging from conscious and premeditated, to unconscious and reflexive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 12:19 AM
1

How many women are willing to be his plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 12:13 AM
1

Yep. She either has that mode, or she doesn't, and there's only one way to find out.
/r/askMRP05/10/16 10:21 PM
1

It's working out pretty good for me. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 10:12 PM
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I guess I just don't understand the point of this thread. Arguing over what "counts" as a "relationship" or "monogamy" seems kind of pointless if you aren't going to just stick with basic, general definitions. Distinctions without a difference; a rose by any other name; etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 08:22 PM
1

Do you believe words have meanings?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:13 PM
2

Haha. Nope, not at all, just wanted to make sure. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:31 PM
1

Are you genuinely confused, or just passive-aggressively feigning confusion to make some vague "point"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:33 PM
1

Read my edits. I'm just saying, it's been my experience that that's how "a lot" of women see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:21 PM
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Having regular sex with a guy she's not in a committed relationship runs counter to the social narrative that women are supposed to "hold out" for a "relationship". Edit: basically "only easy sluts sleep around with players". Edit 2: don't ask me, I don't know why. I don't make up these silly social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:12 PM
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Sounds like you're at dread level 4. Here's what you need to do: Read the entire post on the 12 stages of dread Ask yourself how important this is to you. Ask yourself again. Seriously, if you really need to push this further, you're going to have be absolutely resolute about this and prepared for the rocky road ahead. Set specific goals for your sex life. Make a list of the specific things you need in your sex life to feel fulfilled in it. Ready? Set your sights on dread level 12. Yes 12. Did y…
/r/askMRP05/10/16 04:54 PM
3

Inb4 "I'm a good girl with self-respect, I would never date a guy who wasn't committed to me! I'm not a slut!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:35 PM
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Just be straightforward with him. If he's a mentally well adjusted guy, he'll appreciate your openness and honesty. Guys get really confused and frustrated with women who play the subtle hints game. Just be clear and concise. You're going to have to put your "anti-slut defense" (ASD) aside and spell it out for him. Tell him you want to keep seeing him and hooking up with him, but you don't want to be exclusive.
/r/seduction05/10/16 12:16 PM
1

Such as...?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 09:05 PM
1

I'm pretty RP in every other way. I just happen to also be polyamorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 08:39 PM
1

I run /r/RedPillNonMonogamy. We both fuck other people and sometimes go to swinger clubs. I'm not in to humiliation, so no, I don't have a cuckold fetish. Edit: and no, I don't do chores, she does all the cooking and cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:24 PM
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I'd bet $100 that if you gave him the green light to fuck other women, his sex drive would miraculously spring back to life, just not for you.
/r/askTRP04/10/16 12:41 PM
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See, it's exactly this kind of shit-testing attitude in women that TRP is warning men about. Whenever a man questions you, you resort to manipulative attempts to shame or devalue him. The old "revoke the man card" trick isn't going to work around here, sweetie.
/r/askTRP04/10/16 12:34 PM
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Wow. I haven't even seen your pics, but this reply betrays a very narcissistic and delusional attitude. I suspected this attitude reading your post and other comments, but this one here solidified it. I would find your attitude a massive turnoff. Honestly, and I'm not even saying this to be cruel, but you should leave your husband, he deserves better than you. Edit: Saw pics, definitely just fat.
/r/askTRP04/10/16 12:33 PM
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Dude, this is normal, there's nothing wrong with this. TRP will sometimes give you the impression that you need to be emotionally cold and detached, but in reality it's these feelings of closeness and intimacy that drive most men to want women in the first place. Nothing wrong with having good memories of the women you've built a connection with. The difference here is that you just need to remember that you can build that same connection with other women, and don't let those feelings and memori…
/r/askTRP04/10/16 12:14 PM
1

The woman is mostly silent until one guy cracks a joke, and her laugh sounds like "breaking the tension" laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:03 PM
1

Do you not recognize that when someone's laughing they think what they just heard or said was funny? I didn't watch the video, and I'm not necessarily defending OP here, but the idea that laughing is only ever a response to humor is just wrong. People laugh for a lot of reasons including trying to hide the fact that they're upset or angry, or scared. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED7_y4jETo0
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 08:04 PM
2

Liberty Definitely don't go to Liberty if you care about science at all.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 07:32 PM
1

Right, but the question was about women. I wasn't claiming women cheat more than men, just that most would cheat if they knew they could get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:49 PM
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A pretty solid analysis. One thing to point out though is that whether a girl falls in group C or D will vary significantly based on the level of thirst among the guys in the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 05:05 PM
3

Oh yeah, I almost forgot I'm supposed to hate women... eyeroll.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:22 PM
2

We have an open marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:18 PM
2

Of course, you would probably know it within about 10 minutes of talking with me as you notice a sudden need to remove your clothing. ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:39 PM
3

I have long hair, I've had homosexual experiences that I don't regret or feel weird about, I'm tall and thin, wear glasses. You would never guess I was a terper if you met me in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:18 PM
3

These aren't just "some nutcases", these are the people pushing for and drafting legislation. This is the "official" affirmative consent campaign. The California SB-967 bill might not specifically call for "verbal" consent, but in practice, lack of clear verbal consent leaves any man in the difficult position of proving to a panel, court or judge that the woman's body language or facial expression was unambiguously "affirmative, conscious, and voluntary agreement" (quoted from the bill). So, in …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 02:06 PM
1

It might not be "most", but it's hard to tell because there is very little research on it, mostly because there's no funding or even any real interest in studying it. At best we can say that it's highly under-reported, and when it is reported, it's almost never believed or taken seriously. Child sexual abuse by women is a serious issue whether or not it's "most". The sexual misconduct of men is almost universally considered a high priority issue, but the mere subject of the sexual misconduct of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 01:49 PM
2

Yeah, I'm not sure what you point is or why you're posting this here...?
/r/TheRedPill02/10/16 12:33 PM
3

Did they actually say vocal or did they just say ''yes means yes''? Affirmative consent/''yes means yes'' is generally inclusive of physical reciprocity as an affirmation. Actually, proponents of "affirmative consent" really are saying you need explicit "VERBAL" consent at every step of the sexual encounter. http://sgvnowproject.weebly.com/the-affirmative-consent-standard--rape--sexual-assault-education.html This is linked to from the affirmativeconsent.com web site. http://affirmativeconsent.co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:53 AM
0

You forgot the 4th option: tell her, she forgives you and secretly finds you more attractive because of pre-selection.
/r/askTRP02/10/16 11:33 AM
0

This is exactly why you should never promise monogamy.
/r/askTRP02/10/16 11:18 AM
1

Statistically, most would.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 10:49 AM
2

Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 03:17 AM
3

Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 01:03 AM
0

Look up AMOGing, there's a ton written about this.
/r/seduction01/10/16 08:08 PM
6

If my boss playfully slapped my ass when we passed in the halls I would look for a new job too. But for some reason my wife loves it when I do that. Strange, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 07:58 PM
4

So, how many orgasms do I owe you for your pain and suffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 06:32 PM
6

Only 18% of women never give birth. That means that 82% do. http://www.marketingcharts.com/traditional/18-of-us-women-do-not-give-birth-13378/ That's for women who are already over 40, but the number of women who will not have children will increase dramatically over the next few generations. A higher percentage of younger women than ever before are reporting no desire to have children, and the birth rates of women 18-30 is much lower than before. There is no reason to believe this trend will re…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 06:10 PM
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Why is the pain of childbirth the go to rationalization for everything women demand or feel entitled to? Almost half of women will never give birth, and those that do only do it on average of 2 times in their life. And most of those women will not have a natural birth. So no, just because women are the ones who give birth in general does not mean all women are entitled to a lifetime of special treatment and perks. TL;DR: Get over your ovaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 05:48 PM
2

Dude, I think she's actually being pretty overt here, which is good because she could have been much more covert about all of this. She's trying to communicate to you that she's developing a wandering eye and that you need to do something about this. No, talking about it won't help. You need to start seriously upping your game. Have you been running through the 12 stages of dread? If not, you should be working up to at least dread level 8. If she's still not responding, plow straight in to level…
/r/askMRP01/10/16 05:16 PM
1

Not sure who downvoted this comment, but if it was you OP, you need to "recontextualize" why you came here in the first place. This comment is what you asked for, and his advice is correct. If you're just going to downvote and ignore the advice you came here for, you need to "recontextualize" your attitude.
/r/askTRP01/10/16 04:51 PM
0

Alright, but should I say something like No, stop right there. Move on. You have oneitis. She's not in to you. At this point, the harder you try, the worse her repulsion for you will get.
/r/askTRP01/10/16 04:47 PM
1

She's playing games with you for validation. She wants to watch men jump through hoops for her and put up with her bullshit because it makes her feel valuable. Women like this will drain your soul if you let them. Move the fuck on.
/r/askTRP01/10/16 04:44 PM
1

Rapper = attractive. Millionaire computer geek = ATM.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/16 04:40 PM
1

Why not?
/r/askTRP01/10/16 04:20 PM
2

I've also read that when a couple decides to try to have a baby, if they're unsuccessful after 6mo-1yr of trying the woman is much more likely to cheat. I read this a while ago and don't have the link handy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 04:03 PM
3

Hey Rollo. I hope I'm not too late. My wife is high-functioning, "quiet" BPD (borderline personality disorder). We've been together for about 12 years, married 5. You've said you majored in behavioral psychology with an emphasis on personality studies. I don't know much about the technical distinctions between various sub-fields of psychology or if "personality studies" includes personality disorders, but I do know there are a lot of men struggling through relationships with personality disorder…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/09/16 10:23 PM
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Requisite Bill Burr reference "Now she's a babysitter worth a quarter of a billion dollars!"
/r/TheRedPill30/09/16 08:50 PM
5

Here's some evidence that testosterone has measurable effects on female attraction: http://www.scottsdalehealthcenter.com/does-testosterone-attract-women.html http://www.livescience.com/28812-women-prefer-smell-of-manly-guys.html
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 03:22 PM
1

Look, I'm not saying his story is typical. But not everything falls neatly in to such narrowly specific terms like that. His situation is probably on the low end of the probabilistic bell curve, but it's not nearly as conclusively impossible as you seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 02:37 PM
1

If you need to believe that in order to confirm your beliefs, feel free, I won't stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 02:26 PM
1

He has a round, mostly featureless face, it's half bald, wears glasses, and is about average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 02:06 PM
1

You missed my point. My point is that TRP isn't creating angry misogynists, women are. They come to us already angry and bitter, we didn't make them that way. Also, IllimitableMan is my second least favorite EC, after GLO. I personally don't like posts like that either and I consider that stuff to be pretty radical. But I also understand where he's coming from. I've personally known more than a few men get royally screwed over by single moms, and most of the single moms I know are irresponsible,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 02:02 PM
1

One of my closest friends was a virgin at 28. He was a fat, dumpy, pessimistic sad sack. Me and another good friend of ours tried on numerous occasions to get him laid. We even hired a hooker once and it didn't work out (don't ask me how, I still don't fully understand). Now, 10 years later, he's had about 4 girlfriends, and is currently in a LTR with a cute 7 who's down for just about any kinky thing he wants, even goes to BDSM parties with him and lets him play with other girls (no actual pene…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 11:21 AM
8

She was probably in estrus and open to some strange, but as her hormones leveled off, she isn't feeling that any more and is back to seeking the security and comfort of being with her BF.
/r/askTRP30/09/16 11:04 AM
3

I wouldn't be opposed to it based on having AIS alone. I'm generally a sexually experimental person anyway, and I have had homoerotic experiences in the past that I don't regret or feel weird about, so, merely the fact that they technically had male genes wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me. But honestly, I'm much more curious about the other effects of this. Being as they are genetically male, how does this affect other biological features? I skimmed through the wiki article, but didn't find answe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:48 AM
1

Where do you think these men come from? They find TRP because they've been shat on by women in a culture that encourages and excuses it. And then they come here, vent a little, read other mens' stories, and we offer them practical advice on how to get over it, how to adjust their lofty fantasies to more realistic levels so they can get back out there. It sounds to me like you're intentionally only seeing one side of the equation, simplifying it and exaggerating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:12 AM
1

Literally everything disorder I don't think you know what any of those words mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:48 AM
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If you really think the OP needs to know specifically about TRP, PM him a link to a relevant Rational Male article or something. If it rings true to him, he'll dig around a bit more and probably find his way here. If he PMs you back telling you how much it makes sense or whatever, maybe point him to this sub. But for most guys, even if they're starting to see the holes in the matrix, they probably still aren't ready for the whole hog and might get turned off by the harsh language and the anger p…
/r/TheRedPill29/09/16 10:13 PM
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Well, I'm sure you've already seen all the arguments against the claim that TRP/manosphere hates women, so I doubt I'll be the one to change your mind on that. But even then, the pickup community isn't a part of the manosphere. A few PUAs are, but go read /r/seduction. Most of the time if someone mentions TRP in seddit they get pounced on and down voted. Seriously, if all you know about pickup is from sensational news stories and vague preconceptions, you really should take a second look at the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 07:38 PM
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Ok, my bad. I got to one of those mid-page ads and thought that was the end of the article. Anyway, it definitely seems pretty rapy. And if they were teaching students to have sex with unconscious women, then they're definitely pretty damaged people and should NOT be teaching pickup. No other pickup coach I know of would ever teach that. That's not the point of pickup. If you're just going to rape unconscious women, why bother spending months or years, or possibly thousands of dollars on seminar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:32 PM
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His actual material includes shoving girl's heads into his crotch Yeah, and if you watch actual video of him doing this kind of stuff, the girls are laughing and smiling and going along with it, because it's a party atmosphere and he's doing it in a fun, silly way. Of course it sounds bad when you just portray it as some creepy guy going around forcing random women's heads in his crotch. But when you see it in context it's just a silly, playful thing to do with women who you're already hanging o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 04:27 PM
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I've never heard of those two. I'm willing to bet that if I dug around it would be just another media hype. But either way, even if it's true that these two guys are genuine dirtbags, I would still argue that they're the exception. As for Julien, I've followed his work for some time now. He's made some over the top, trollish jokes on Twitter, but if you look at his actual material, it doesn't teach anything like what the media portrays. For example, just check out this 5 minute video with some c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 01:58 PM
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NAPUAALT. The PUA community is large and diverse. Of course it's going to attract some losers and psychopaths just looking for any tactic to justify taking advantage of women, but having studied PUA for several years now, I can tell you I've never seen any instructor who doesn't take consent very seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:38 PM
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I disagree. I mean, sure incels will have to want to take up a serious desire to change, but I think if they did, something like CBT or DBT could do a lot of good. I think incel-dom could be treated as a personality disorder, and indeed, a lot of them probably do have some kind of PD such as schizotypal, or possibly even "covert narcissism". PDs generally respond pretty well to DBT/CBT, provided of course the patient takes the therapy seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:12 PM
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I completely agree. In fact, a lot of PUA coaches (modern PUAs, not the cheesy stereotypes you read about in The Game) recommend CBT to fix guys broken belief system about women and dating (and even themselves). For example, this series on GirlsChase.com. I'm pretty sure even Mark Manson (author of Models) recommends CBT for beginners.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:05 PM
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How do you figure? I'm pretty sure most of the mods are blue-ish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:00 PM
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That's right, newbie. I run /r/RedPillNonMonogamy. And last Friday I fucked 3 different women in the same night at the swingers club.
/r/MarriedRedPill29/09/16 11:12 AM
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Ok, tell me. What exactly were you planning to accomplish by posting this? Do you just like to find any excuse to chime in with in-group signaling jargon?
/r/MarriedRedPill29/09/16 10:51 AM
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Criticizes post on wit. Uses equal sign to mathematically prove point.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/16 12:42 AM
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Once your girl gives you that talk, there's no going back. She wants commitment and no matter how long you try and avoid it and keep stringing her along, she won't act the same until she gets what she wants. Nope, you're completely wrong. If your plate starts giving you the commitment talk, and doesn't fall back in line when you brush it off, the correct solution is to completely ignore her for at least 4 months. If you play it right, she'll be back.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/16 12:39 AM
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Bosses don't want yes men and grovelers This highly depends on the boss. I've worked for plenty of petty, narcissistic bosses who most definitely wanted grovelers and yes-men. Granted, if you find yourself working for such a boss, you're better off just finding a new job, but still, the point is, these kind of bosses definitely exist.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/16 12:37 AM
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"Nice tie, boss! I had one just like that in high school! I bet you get all the chicks with that tie! Hahaha..."
/r/TheRedPill29/09/16 12:29 AM
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You suck at reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:10 AM
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Well, I suck at following my own advice. I'm married myself (open marriage).
/r/askTRP28/09/16 11:00 PM
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Also, check out this video on you'll never have to approach again. I don't recommend taking everything he says literally, but the overall attitude he talks about works wonders.
/r/askTRP28/09/16 10:51 PM
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The sour grapes effect is real. You just have to remember, women can most definitely add a lot of value to your life. The trick is to handle your women with deep understanding of their red pill nature and don't set yourself up with unreasonable expectations. Don't expect to find The One. Don't expect eternal loyalty. And never get married. Other than that, women can bring a lot of fun, intimacy and growth to your life. And at the first sign of drama, you soft next and meet more, if they come bac…
/r/askTRP28/09/16 10:49 PM
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I think you're putting too much pressure on yourself. That whole "must approach immediately" thing isn't true, for example. That's just what old school PUAs would do to challenge themselves. Anyway, here's a few tips: start off with just trying to make friendly acquaintances with random people, men and women. Standing in line somewhere? Find an excuse to strike up a casual conversation with someone in line with you, etc. make it fun, be silly, pull little corny pranks, etc. Tell random people yo…
/r/askTRP28/09/16 10:41 PM
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My wife has dated guys in their 30s when she was 16-18.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 09:06 PM
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I found this video a while ago when I was looking around at the same thing. A lot of good advice here. https://youtu.be/XzwNpc892KE
/r/askTRP28/09/16 09:04 PM
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Oh look, it's Chad "Woke-af" Thundercock himself here to give us the real deal!
/r/askTRP28/09/16 05:31 PM
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Ok. In that case, no, I don't think anyone in TRP is just trying to make fun of older women just to be mean. It's discussed because it's a relevant factor of male attraction. Sometimes people on TRP do laugh at women for partying and wasting away their youth and then complaining that they can't find a decent guy in their 30s. But they aren't being made fun of just because they're older, it's because they were dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:23 PM
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Ok, so you think we talk about it to be intentionally mean or something? Is that what you're trying to get at?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:10 PM
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Better filmmaking technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:06 PM
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If men are more attracted to youth, that necessarily means they're less attracted to older women. This means they have less sexual value to men. I think the logic is pretty straightforward. As for it being "obsessed over" I think maybe you just don't like seeing. It's not obsessed over any more than other relevant topics of discussion. Are you sure you aren't just complaining that you wish we wouldn't keep reminding you about this particular subject because it makes you feel uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:48 PM
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What do you mean about "trying to prove a narrative"? You just acknowledged that age is an important factor in male attraction. Why wouldn't it be something that's discussed a lot on TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:35 PM
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So, you're asking why a sub dedicated to male sexuality often discusses the factors of male attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:22 PM
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This isn't a TRP thing, it's just a basic psychology thing: Studies show older men prefer youth and beauty first for mate selection and women choose men who offer resources and stability. http://www.yourtango.com/experts/carmelia-ray/older-men-dating-younger-women-whats-it-all-about
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:12 PM
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Why was she handing out her number? I bet it's more likely he was giving off a provider vibe and she's just looking for fun. Not looking for "a relationship" is usually code for "you seem like a nice guy, and I'm sure I'll want a nice guy like you one day when I'm ready to settle down, but right now I'm young and just want to have fun, so sorry."
/r/seduction28/09/16 04:58 AM
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Bullshit. Men are the primary victims of all forms of violence from both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:49 AM
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