Women abandon their kids and it's all because society isn't feminist enough

imbignate · 2012-09-21T06:22:34+00:00

Mom doesn't want to be a mom: poor thing is oppressed and needs compassion.

Dad doesn't want to be a dad: throw that deadbeat in jail if he doesn't pay.

Both need feminism. Apparently.

Aaod · 2012-09-21T05:15:06+00:00

This article reejs of apologetics. Also, when the fuck has it ever been okay for a dad to abandon his kids? Deadbeat dads are pretty much reviled universally.

Lucaribro · 2012-09-21T07:22:07+00:00

Uuuuuugh. Valenti.

You should have posted a trigger warning.

chavelah · 2012-09-21T10:28:37+00:00

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C0CKPUNCHER · 2012-09-21T07:35:16+00:00

Wow, who would have ever thought kids were boring? It's not like this message has been broadcast to everyone for ever. When I was a kid I knew kids were boring. These stupid quoted individuals are super stupid. You have your whole life to plan for kids. It isn't a prison sentence, it's a job, a part time job at that. Don't get me wrong they are crazy making, but in no way are they life consuming, you still have spare time. The article annoys me so much I want to downvote it.

Also abandon kids for free. Leave wife for a lifetime of alimony and child support.

chaos122345 · 2012-09-21T19:54:50+00:00

On November 21, 2008, the last day that the safe haven law was in effect for children of all ages, a mother from Yolo County, California, drove over 1,200 miles to the Kimball County Hospital in Nebraska where she left her 14-year-old son.

Yolo county...

chavelah · 2012-09-21T14:50:52+00:00

Misleading thread title. The idea that people who don't want to raise kids shouldn't have kids is not a new one, nor is the idea that planned and wanted children are better parented than accidental children. But this story is not about mothers who abandon their children. It's about how motherhood is unrealistically portrayed in our popular culture, and parenting is put forth as a mandatory adult activity - and surprise surprise, thus leads to babies being born to women who don't really want to be mothers. I don't think either of those points are invalid.

However, I have no idea why Valenti thinks that trolling for dramatic quotes from anonymous parties on the Internet is an essential attribute of effective journalism. Postsecret is not a credible source. Jesus Christ.

AnthonyZarat · 2012-09-21T18:30:26+00:00

Women do terrible things ... and the author blames everyone and everything except for the women themselves. Typical feminist.

Here is what is really happening. Modern American women are the most entitled and selfish creatures ever to walk the Earth. That is why they drive 1200 miles to take advantage of the opportunity to legally abandon their 14 year old children.

littleelf · 2012-09-21T14:01:11+00:00

I especially like how her conclusions do not at all follow from her premise.

If policymakers and people who care about children want to reduce the number of abandoned kids, they need to address the systemic issues: poverty, maternity leave, access to resources, and health care.

With the possible exception of poverty, none of these have anything to do with the actual issue of whether or not the child is wanted, merely how many people besides the parents have to work to the benefit of the child.

ETA:

We need to encourage women to demand more help from their partners, if they have them.

Because women being bad parents is the fault of those lazy men.

There also needs to be some sort of acknowledgement that not everyone should parent

I completely agree. Jessica Valenti is one of those people who shouldn't have had kids.

By having more honest conversations about parenting, we can avoid the kind of secret depressions so many mothers seem to be harboring.

And continue to ignore the not at all secret depression most fathers have as a result of being railroaded by sexist 'family' courts.

CORNDOGCOMMANDO · 2012-09-21T19:58:08+00:00

Lol my mom abandoned me and my 2 siblings because she was lazy and hated responsibility. She loved the gov aid she got for us and kept getting it after us kids had to live on the streets. I'm glad welfare was reformed back in the 90s but the fact remains we as a society need to stop acting like women are special and wonderful.

I've seen more women do heartless cold blooded acts of vengeance and malice compared to men. There is always an excuse for women's actions, for my mom the go to excuse was my husband just died and that Shit worked on everyone. You abandoned your kids oh your husband died well you must be going through a tough time. 5 years after she was still using that excuse and social service didn't do Shit.

We have to accept that women use children for their own gain, if so many women have these mental problems that excuse them from everything them how about we start running mental text when they go in for those free services and when they want to have a baby.

Dranosh · 2012-09-21T15:46:10+00:00

Feminism has gone from wanting equal rights, of course without equal responsibilities like selective service, to wanting the "right" to kill their unborn child(ren), and to saying that motherhood itself is oppressive.

I'm going to show my fiancee this when she comes over, she loves children, I think she'll actually choke up when she reads these heartless, selfish bitches talking about dropping their innocent children off and driving off to probably go party or get laid or something.

2012-09-21T14:33:57+00:00

"Reductio ad absurdum."

chavelah · 2012-09-21T18:02:44+00:00

Mothers don't like being mothers?

Who. gives. a. fuck.

Seriously, it shouldn't be an issue. Deal with it, take care of your child and stop fucking whining.

This is ok though. Feminist keep spouting off that woman are just shouldering the burden of motherhood but facts change and its not the case anymore.

The spoiled youth of woman that are now recently becoming pregnant have been told that they are special, unique, independent, and the best at taking care of kids.

What do we end up with?

Mothers who suck at being mothers and feel bad for themselves. This pity manifests itself in being a poor mother, because guess what, it takes work to be a good mother and woman today think that because they are a woman, they are automatically a good mother.

The tide will turn as people witness that a job maligned by feminists can never be fully embraced by a woman if it holds no prestige. What do you end up with? A shitty mother and a shitty attitude. People will notice. As men take up the role of being a great father, we will realize that being a parent takes skill, not a gender.

Title	Women abandon their kids and it's all because society isn't feminist enough
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Date	September 21, 2012 5:01 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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