She's very far right. Laissez-faire capitalism with little if any restrictions, trad con social views, and a sprinkling (more of a dollop, really) of white ethno-statism. That's not even mentioning the nonsense she writes about the climate. I'd say she qualifies as bordering on alt right.
I used to be a pretty big fan, but then I found out she's a trump supporter, and I'm like "eeeeeehhhh, she's got a good heart, I can tell, but I'm doubting her opinions now I have to go back and rethink all the old videos of hers I watched to see if I was being bamboozled."
I’m sorry, but are you not aware Trump was/is trying to steal an election? Are you not aware that he proposed to use the military to stage a coup? Are you not aware that nothing comes closer to meeting the definition of fascism? Stop trying to blow smoke up my ass with this “you just think he is a fascist because you disagree with him” bullshit.
Trumpists are not fascist sympathizers for disagreeing with me, they are fascists sympathizers for supporting a fascist using fascist methods to stay in power. They are fascist, because they believe in and want fascism. This is not a euphemism or a hyperbole, if you want to use the military to overthrow an election, you are a fascist, full stop.
Yeah, I see the net results of all that was planned, not a whole lot tbh. The issue is that there's beena whole lot of stuff reported about Trump, and very little of it actually confirmed. Election propagandising is all. And I've no intention of going anywhere near your ass.
Put it this way. I'm a centrist nowadays, used to be very left-wing. I don't agree with you. From what you said earlier, that makes me a fascist. So you can sod right off with that mentality. Hyperbole and idpolitics have ruined political discussion.
Fwiw, there's been plenty of governments overthrown by their military, both left and right wing.
Are you fucking kidding me right now? Wtf do you still need to have confirmed? Is the fact that he file 50 lawsuits all based on completely made up lies about voter fraud to over rule the election not confirmed enough for you? Are public events with thousands of witnesses not confirmed enough for you? I’m just focusing on the most recent thing too (that and the fact that he is ignoring yet another Russian cyber attack), I’m not even going to get into the billion other reasons why Trump is trash.
I don’t agree with you. From what you said earlier, this make me fascist.
You don’t agree with me on what specifically? I’m being specific, you need to be as well. To recap, earlier I said being in favor of the guy who wants to overthrow a legitimate election so that guy can stay in power does make you in favor of fascism. Are you saying that’s you version of centrism? Are you saying you are specifically in favor of overthrowing a legitimate election so Trump can stay in power? If your answer is yes, then that is the thing that makes you a fascist. It is specifically the undermining of democracy part that makes it fascism. Not the part where you’re a fucking centrist.
Enough with this “you’re just going call me fascist for being a centrist” nonsense, it’s such an insult to the intelligence to obfuscate the issues like when the obfuscation is obviously a lie.
He can file all the lawsuits he wants. You said he planned a coup using the military, and then you freak out over some lawsuits? Get a grip. Can't you see the difference in those two scenarios..
Trumps a fascist and everyone who voted for him is a fascist because he arranged and executed a coup.
I could maybe get behind that one, not the supporters part of course, but about Trump.
Trumps a fascist and everyone who voted for him is a fascist because he filed some lawsuits.
Ermm, I think you need to go back on your medication.
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Right, sorry about that last comment, it was unnecessary. I'm not here to talk about politics, American politics is frankly insane and there's no way to reconcile differences. What I am here to do is talk about men's rights and advocacy, which is what I'm going back to doing, and I won't be replying to this thread any further. We are all in this world together, and the situation is bad enough without us dividing the resistance.
Why do I feel like you do not understand the situation in the least bit? You are reacting to the face value of my statements as if you don’t have any knowledge of your own at all to fill in the blanks? The law suits themselves are an attempted coup, not a military overthrow, but an attempt at stealing the election from the voters based on nonsense. He explored the option of a military coup and was shot down by his advisors. The means by which he stages a coup is irrelevant, do you understand? A coup is a fucking coup, he has failed, but that is still the kind of person he is. Failing at throwing a coup, does not make you no longer a fascist.
Jesus fucking Christ man. If you aren’t American and don’t follow America politics, either please go away and educate on what is going on, or don’t bother debating Americans on their own shit.
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She's very far right. Laissez-faire capitalism with little if any restrictions, trad con social views, and a sprinkling (more of a dollop, really) of white ethno-statism. That's not even mentioning the nonsense she writes about the climate. I'd say she qualifies as bordering on alt right.
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I used to be a pretty big fan, but then I found out she's a trump supporter, and I'm like "eeeeeehhhh, she's got a good heart, I can tell, but I'm doubting her opinions now I have to go back and rethink all the old videos of hers I watched to see if I was being bamboozled."
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I’m sorry, but are you not aware Trump was/is trying to steal an election? Are you not aware that he proposed to use the military to stage a coup? Are you not aware that nothing comes closer to meeting the definition of fascism? Stop trying to blow smoke up my ass with this “you just think he is a fascist because you disagree with him” bullshit.
Trumpists are not fascist sympathizers for disagreeing with me, they are fascists sympathizers for supporting a fascist using fascist methods to stay in power. They are fascist, because they believe in and want fascism. This is not a euphemism or a hyperbole, if you want to use the military to overthrow an election, you are a fascist, full stop.
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Yeah, I see the net results of all that was planned, not a whole lot tbh. The issue is that there's beena whole lot of stuff reported about Trump, and very little of it actually confirmed. Election propagandising is all. And I've no intention of going anywhere near your ass.
Put it this way. I'm a centrist nowadays, used to be very left-wing. I don't agree with you. From what you said earlier, that makes me a fascist. So you can sod right off with that mentality. Hyperbole and idpolitics have ruined political discussion.
Fwiw, there's been plenty of governments overthrown by their military, both left and right wing.
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Are you fucking kidding me right now? Wtf do you still need to have confirmed? Is the fact that he file 50 lawsuits all based on completely made up lies about voter fraud to over rule the election not confirmed enough for you? Are public events with thousands of witnesses not confirmed enough for you? I’m just focusing on the most recent thing too (that and the fact that he is ignoring yet another Russian cyber attack), I’m not even going to get into the billion other reasons why Trump is trash.
You don’t agree with me on what specifically? I’m being specific, you need to be as well. To recap, earlier I said being in favor of the guy who wants to overthrow a legitimate election so that guy can stay in power does make you in favor of fascism. Are you saying that’s you version of centrism? Are you saying you are specifically in favor of overthrowing a legitimate election so Trump can stay in power? If your answer is yes, then that is the thing that makes you a fascist. It is specifically the undermining of democracy part that makes it fascism. Not the part where you’re a fucking centrist.
Enough with this “you’re just going call me fascist for being a centrist” nonsense, it’s such an insult to the intelligence to obfuscate the issues like when the obfuscation is obviously a lie.
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He can file all the lawsuits he wants. You said he planned a coup using the military, and then you freak out over some lawsuits? Get a grip. Can't you see the difference in those two scenarios..
I could maybe get behind that one, not the supporters part of course, but about Trump.
Ermm, I think you need to go back on your medication.
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Right, sorry about that last comment, it was unnecessary.
I'm not here to talk about politics, American politics is frankly insane and there's no way to reconcile differences.
What I am here to do is talk about men's rights and advocacy, which is what I'm going back to doing, and I won't be replying to this thread any further. We are all in this world together, and the situation is bad enough without us dividing the resistance.
Have a good night, and a great Xmas.
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Why do I feel like you do not understand the situation in the least bit? You are reacting to the face value of my statements as if you don’t have any knowledge of your own at all to fill in the blanks? The law suits themselves are an attempted coup, not a military overthrow, but an attempt at stealing the election from the voters based on nonsense. He explored the option of a military coup and was shot down by his advisors. The means by which he stages a coup is irrelevant, do you understand? A coup is a fucking coup, he has failed, but that is still the kind of person he is. Failing at throwing a coup, does not make you no longer a fascist.
Jesus fucking Christ man. If you aren’t American and don’t follow America politics, either please go away and educate on what is going on, or don’t bother debating Americans on their own shit.
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