Keep your laws out of our wallets?

TAPriceCTR · 2021-12-02T03:36:50+00:00

I sacrifice my time, body, health and safety to fill my bank account.

Wax_Man_ · 2021-12-02T05:15:43+00:00

Like the G.O.A.T. said: "if you can kill this motherfucker at least I can abandon him. It's my money, my choice."

MiKEY_SANZ · 2021-12-02T04:42:32+00:00

I agree with this 250%

Cking_wisdom · 2021-12-02T09:42:00+00:00

I still think men should have paper abortions. Sign away all rights and responsibilities for the unborn. Freedom to choose

IoSonCalaf · 2021-12-02T10:45:09+00:00

Your body, your choice? Well, your body, your problem.

kikiwikii · 2021-12-02T09:32:56+00:00

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Metroid545 · 2021-12-02T04:33:01+00:00

Rather than fighting fire with fire remind them conception is a dance for two. Plus you know they would lose their shit and suddenly men would have some involvement in their kids when money is out of the picture

okfornothing · 2021-12-02T01:59:02+00:00

Agreed. Yesteryear is in the past. There are plenty of jobs and opportunities for everyone.

AndemianAndem1 · 2021-12-02T10:54:34+00:00

No testicles, no opinion.

OctaviaPinfold · 2021-12-02T13:25:29+00:00

“keep your laws off of our bodies” works for men as well

sleepyJoeBidet · 2021-12-02T01:50:24+00:00

Well had as much chance of catching on as femanist compf

Starship_Captain01 · 2021-12-02T13:51:54+00:00

Basically, men should be asked for permission to use their sperm to make a baby. If you don't give it, then they shouldn't be able to come after you for child support, imo.

raptorboss231 · 2021-12-02T09:39:19+00:00

This would work except we'd be called sexist for it

Ready_Inevitable2718 · 2021-12-02T15:07:55+00:00

In my experience, any time you start with the premise that monetary wealth is comparable to fundamental rights such as owning your own person, you set yourself up for failure.

Alarming_Jicama2979 · 2021-12-02T02:42:26+00:00

Every aborted fetus has a silent father & grandparents who would love it…. Fight for your DNA.

B_P_G · 2021-12-02T08:00:23+00:00

It is definitely unfair that they can force you to pay for a child that you don't want while at the same time they can simply abort any child that they don't want.

SpolaInteNerTorky · 2021-12-02T06:38:57+00:00

I don’t get it? It’s not like woman don’t work eh?

Or is this an American thing?

CanniBal1320 · 2021-12-02T04:39:34+00:00

We cant fight hate with hate. We should be fighting hate with logic.

BrundleKitten · 2021-12-02T16:48:07+00:00

People have their greasy fingers all over our bank accounts and wallets all the time. There must be another way to frame this.

hello_howdy_ · 2021-12-02T19:53:40+00:00

I support it

Alarming_Draw · 2021-12-02T21:44:30+00:00

Thoughts? That you should go further-Men have NO say in a woman having his child or not-yet the moment she chooses to, he becomes an economic slave - for the REST OF HIS LIFE.

From that moment he MUST work half his time for money that goes straight to her. Regardless of whether she lied about using protection or sabotaging it.

Men being forced to work for a child they had no say in, no access to, and no influence over-thats SLAVERY. Yet women freak out about having ANY form of laws about abortion? Men have their bodies enslaved to pay for that kid no matter what!

antifeminist3 · 2021-12-05T16:08:47+00:00

Feminists: it's a woman's issue if it affects women.

Child support almost exclusively affects men. Using feminists own logic, men are entitled to have a say. Or get rid of child support. Choose, feminists.

LemonDropTop89 · 2021-12-02T19:39:59+00:00

I don’t think that’s a fair comparison? I’d be pissed as hell if I had to carry a child for 9 months that I didn’t want. That sounds horrible and inhumane lol.

Dr-Plague-Channel · 2021-12-02T02:48:53+00:00

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Lucy_Heartfilia_OO · 2021-12-02T18:51:28+00:00

You could always move your money into crypto, then nobody could touch it. Unfortunately it won't stop wage garnishments though

Stranger_Memer · 2021-12-05T17:08:03+00:00

Dude are you trying to argue against abortion rights

ApprehensiveMail8 · 2021-12-02T15:09:22+00:00

I'm fine with laws regulating my wallet.

How about "Keep your independent choices out of our wallets"?

matt_the_raisin · 2021-12-02T16:13:54+00:00

I agree but feel the phrasing might be a little week. I mean...taxes are lawfully sanctioned intrusions on you money so it doesn't hold in abstraction. I'd say something more like...no compelled investments or something...or "don't make me pay for semen I'm willfully giving up. What you do with that semen is up to you." "My jizz my biz" if you will.

Like...I think part of why people don't get it is because the reproductive element men provide has to be outside of them to do anything and we don't view ejaculate as...belonging to the man, where as the egg and womb belongs to the woman. The assumption is once it's out of you you don't have a right to what happens because you threw it away. Where for men you're giving it up for an expected intended outcome. So maybe..."my intent, my consent"

Or we could keep in money focused and just say "well keep your body away from my wallet" after all, the imposition on women is from the law broadly where as the imposition on men if from the law at the woman's discretion.

I mean the rights being discussed are not perfectly equivalent because of how pregnancy works so I'd frankly highlight that...yes though it's legal for women to go after men in this fashion it's different because my understanding is that women have to actively choose to go after men for this where as for women and abortions if it were illegal there's no where she can go to have one safely. All that says to me is that for women and abortion it was the state doing that to them. For men and forced Parenthood, women are doing it to men, the state is only lending a hand. So to put it bluntly, pointing the finger at the state or laws is not actually pointing at the perpetrator here.

Title	Keep your laws out of our wallets?
Author	Dr-Plague-Channel
Upvotes	327
Comments	100
Date	December 2, 2021 1:40 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/r6vdc0/keep_your_laws_out_of_our_wallets/
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