Is it even worth it anymore?

TheLolzBrah · 2021-12-15T02:29:42+00:00

For women in general its already pre determined by what they think of you. usually its a lose lose situation because if she isnt into you then she will act disgusted and say you are a creep. But work on your confidence and crack a joke or two. Worth trying at least. And if you cant tell the age just keep walking.

adikshin · 2021-12-15T16:18:49+00:00

Nope. Live and go your our own way, it's like life on easy mode :) it's very freeing! Would 10/10 recommend

riverview_man · 2021-12-15T14:03:42+00:00

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RagGnarRocky · 2021-12-15T18:49:07+00:00

For the age thing, if you have any doubt at all it's best to move past it. Also, don't put so much pressure on yourself. These stories you read/hear about are mostly sensationalist situations, and not even close to the norm. Generally if she's not interested, she'll ignore you, make a statement confirming disinterest, etc. You'll run into the occasional bitchy attitude sure lol but don't take it personally, you might be the 50th guy that day to approach her and she's not in the mood for it, just carry on with your day. It's never really about you, unless you're actually being a creep.

Chinny_YT · 2021-12-15T04:53:22+00:00

"Every man is dangerous unless he is attractive and rich"

Sudden_Example_2177 · 2021-12-15T02:27:21+00:00

People want to make excuses but you're absolutely right. I truly do believe that a large number of women just hate men. You see it all over social media. Why should men give women the benefit of the doubt?

Society never ever gives men the benefit of the doubt so why should we do it for women?

I also think that the problem will only get worse if people don't call it out. Women need to be called out, they need to be told that their expectations and actions are unreasonable and they need to be held accountable for their bad behavior. Otherwise, it'll just get worse.

People make excuse after excuse and women's behavior just gets worse and worse.

TheSnesLord · 2021-12-15T02:34:00+00:00

I'm not an ugly guy, but I'm no Brad Pitt or Dwayne Johnson. I'm just an average man in his mid 20s who is working on his purpose

"working on his purpose" is not enough. This is your first mistake in thinking that.

Young women now only go for men who are 9s and 10s and they don't do average.

I'm not trying to put you down or discourage you, but it's better to stay away from the dating game and instead work hard and make your money and status for yourself. Once you reach like 30 to 35, you'll have a better chance if you decide to try the dating game again. Remember, always work hard for yourself. The attractive women will arrive as an aftereffect.

Be the best version of yourself for yourself and not for female validation.

gettin_paid_to_poop · 2021-12-15T02:23:03+00:00

If thinking about approaching women is damaging your self esteem and mental health then IMO your priority should be to improve those things before you go back to approaching women.

Yes those things you mentioned do happen (false accusations etc) and you should do you best to reduce the risk of that happening but they are not as common as the internet makes them out to be.

There are many legitimate issues facing men today, but let us not get to the point where we are creating narratives in our heads. By that I mean you didn't ask those women and you still believed they would have rejected you. It is a downward spiral from there, to a very dark place mentally.

Take a break from thinking dating, do something for yourself and then try again. As long as you have some goals, either long term or short then it is worth it my friend. And if you don't have any goals currently you can set them, and I would recommend you do that.

intactUS_throwaway · 2021-12-15T04:20:29+00:00

Save yourself the heartache, the bills, and the potential criminal record and just don't go there. Like, ever. It's not worth it.

You'd be better off buying a homestead with your bros and dropping off the grid.

Algiz56 · 2021-12-15T10:03:37+00:00

Excuses. I see more and more how people use social situation for an excuse why they have done X and not done Y.

judasfire · 2021-12-16T11:02:09+00:00

Its not worth it at all , you will only get more low self-esteem and more social anxiety. Focus on yourself more and be happy , get some male friends , go out for drinks , play some PS5 , watch sports , women are just a false attraction these days , its risky and dangerous and will not lead to anything good in the big run , don't ever chase women , especially the ones who look suspicious , a good woman will appear someday unexpectedly , and if she doesn't , then its fine , by nature men shouldn't be dependent on anyone , men are hunters and builders , so build your life and birds start floaking by themselves

Optimal_Wendigo_4333 · 2021-12-16T12:48:17+00:00

And even if you approach them, and date them and settle down, what then? 80% of western women cheat and initiate divorce and are granted custody and alimony 90% of the time.

Chances are, any new marriage or relationship will fail.

Asian women are far better in terms of being feminine and non bitchy.

Adanu0 · 2021-12-19T10:41:50+00:00

It's worth it if you have a camera rolling in case she tries something.

mdarli0 · 2021-12-15T02:21:00+00:00

I think there is a little to much thought going into this, do you think subconsciously your intentions might play a part in this? Do you view yourself as creepy? And your deep down desires light hearted or more on the pervy side? The scenario for me is you see a girl, she's cute, so you tell her and be direct, "hey I think your attractive and was wondering if I could take you out sometime" yes is yes and no is no, it's simple, where as the other side of this is " damn im trying to get freaky with this girl but I'm not shure if she's down and or of age, where your own mind is at and where your real intentions lie will determine how easy or hard your talk goes, you worry about coming of threatening, do you view yourself as threatening? What specifically is threatening in your imaginary approach to a girl and how can you change it? I've noticed in alot of my encounters with pretty much anyone new that you talk to is you have the ability to set the tone, if your tone is awkward,insecure, and creepy that is likely how you will be perceived where as if your more calm, direct, a little easy going, the conversation tends to follow, one of the things I do when I'm talking to a cute girl and it gets awkward is I just point out random things, "damn would you look at that tree over there? It's a nice tree" or "you know this bench I'm sitting on kinda feels like a bench" idk but it's light a little quirky and has a bit of humor but above all else it gets me out of my head and thinking about benches and trees and that's the point, vibes or what ever the kids call it are very real and it's important to pick up on what's being put out and adapt

riverview_man · 2021-12-15T02:45:19+00:00

Just stay away from woman. I've been married 15 years and it's coming to an end soon. It's nothing but pain. Watch porn and jerk off and be happy in your life. I know I'm sounding pessimistic but falling in love sucks because it will most likely end in your heart being torn out. Add kids to it and it's a thousand times worse

DaTechNegro · 2021-12-15T18:45:44+00:00

Yeah i don't cold approach anymore not worth the effort. I used apps but granted I am a somewhat taller, extremely muscular black guy with tattoos and a really good career. I'm in my 30's and cant beat them off with a stick now. Dude try to date or hook up casually hit the gym and work on yourself. Then 30 will hit and you'll have all the leverage and you'll be able to make the rules.

iwannafootmassage · 2021-12-15T20:56:47+00:00

Hey from a woman who is following this page out of curiosity, something I would suggest is to introduce yourself to women after you get a slight vibe that they might be interested as well. This could be something like eye contact or a reciprocated smile if you wanna try that to gage interest.

If you want to approach a woman and can’t gage her interest before hand, starting a convo with a compliment (ex. I really like your style/shirt, etc.) or asking an innocent question like “Hey do you know where I can find BLANK?” if you are in a store might be an effective way to gage interest.

In the past, when I’ve been approached by guys (that I don’t find myself immediately attracted to based on looks) who just flat out introduce themselves, it is kind of awkward bc it’s clear that their only intention in the convo is to try to get your number, so we will respond to that by letting you know we are not interested and trying to end the convo.

You have a far better chance of getting women interested if you are a bit more coy and make them think that you aren’t just trying to get their number. Starting an innocent convo (as suggested above) gives them a chance to see you for who you are (and see more of your personality as well) rather than just see you as a guy that immediately expects a convo from them, and you can see how it goes from there.

I understand it can be stressful and confusing to know when/how to approach women, but I think playing hard to get a bit overrated from men’s perspective. I think you would be surprised how much more willing women are to come to you if you play into the coy dynamic. If she doesn’t carry on the convo after you start one, it is best to carry on with your day. She will appreciate it, and you will grow more attractive in her eyes based on your self-awareness and respect that these situations can also be uncomfortable for women. Plus, you can’t even get rejected if you come at it in a more indirect way bc you aren’t stating your interest upfront.

applewind19 · 2021-12-15T03:11:50+00:00

aren't you just making an excuse for the fact that >maybe< you were angry at yourself for not having the courage to approach these girls and your projected your anger towards them, thinking they would be the ones angry at you? if that's the case, therapy can help

Yoramus · 2021-12-15T13:52:20+00:00

Being creepy is not a crime, nor is talking to a woman you find attractive.

You are making excuses, and you know it.

Speak with a lawyer. They will clarify the law to you. Once you know what you are allowed to do just train yourself and know your audience better. Even if you're accused of being a creep, just continue, until you find that you can understand clues and you can find some success in your courting.

Women like to be courted even if society depicts men as monsters. You need, and you can, overcome the idiotic societal barrier and speak to them.

In earlier times women were kind enough to let you know they liked you, even if they liked you only a little bit. You got romantic notes in school, smiles, etc.. so you had something to grasp on to gradually enter a relationship ( to the satisfaction of both ).

Now it's like living outside of town. Where if you are just a walker you will find dangerous highways, streets without sidewalks, etc... And you feel the only way to get somewhere is by car and you have no car.

You need an optimistic outlook. If you look closely you will find you can rent a moped and start moving. It's not over yet

Warder766312 · 2021-12-15T20:46:28+00:00

I’d personally say work on yourself first before going after women. Generally women are in their prime “marketability” due to appearance from teens to maybe mid 30s. Men’s “marketability” is more tied to our wealth and resources. Women have nice clothes, make up and surgery in extreme case ax Men have wealth, resources and status. Later in life, in your 30’s or 40’s you could still get those type of women if you increased your personal value.

Dating in the early years takes money. It’s better if you can save it or invest it into something.

riverview_man · 2021-12-15T04:20:55+00:00

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Castor997 · 2021-12-15T12:41:35+00:00

We have the same age and I must to say it's not worthy to engage in a relationship anymore. It's better to pay a prostitute for sexual favors than flirting with a random woman running the risk of getting falsely accused.

StudentOfTheTruth0 · 2021-12-15T20:29:07+00:00

Just forget it. MGTOW. My 2 cents.

Title	Is it even worth it anymore?
Author	riverview_man
Upvotes	53
Comments	99
Date	December 14, 2021 10:52 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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