The modern unhappy independent women: A myth

wtknight · 2022-04-25T02:06:51+00:00

Removed. No rants.

SmarmyPapsmears · 2022-04-25T00:50:06+00:00

Completely anecdotal but the old cat ladies / spinsters I've seen always seem way more bitter towards life than the grandmothers.

DivineWakaloon · 2022-04-25T01:07:06+00:00

You find this not uncommon in trad cuck manosphere You Tubers. They compare "modern" women, to suddenly being unhappy because they can't be trad cuck wives.

These women riding the "carousel" don't want trad cuck husbands. When they say they can't "find no good men", they aren't saying they can't find virgin seeking trad cucks, they aren't looking for them. If they wanted them, they would be with them. But they don't.

They may want rich chad or whatever, but they're not lamenting some sort of return to slavery like it's 1904.

This is the standard pattern of trad cuck YoutTubers. They compare non-trad cuck women with somehow wanting trad cuck men. They don't. They never did. If anything, they took pains to get away from trad cuckery.

The only women still pretending to trad cuck are trad thots exploiting trad cucks in an echo chamber with what they want to hear to get patreon donations.

KikiYuyu · 2022-04-25T01:30:52+00:00

I think the thing is people are unhappy if they get the life that wasn't right for them. Doesn't matter which life it is. The incorrect assumption is that only one is the right one.

CatoftheBanals · 2022-04-25T01:49:53+00:00

My father was an addict and my mother was a flighty woman who didn’t care. They were married in the 1970s and I was born in that decade too.

The person who told me to get an education so I wouldn’t need no man? My very trad grandfather, born in the 1920s. “Don’t be like your mother.” As if I had to be told.

Many women ended up dependent on bad men, or destitute when the rug was pulled out. Women back then gobbled down Valium and Dexatrim and drank vodka to numb the pain and maintain the pre-baby weight. Life was not happier then.

Kaisha001 · 2022-04-25T01:57:51+00:00

The truth is, these women from the 50-60s are your mothers and grandmothers. They still exist. Talk to them.

I did. My grandmother used to roll her eyes at feminists and the nonsense they'd say.

Many of them are riddled with regret, trauma, divorce problems, a myriad of personality disorders and mental illnesses that they haven’t gotten diagnosed on.

Certainly not. Mental illness was quite rare amongst women, along with all the standard coping mechanisms (addiction, substance abuse, etc...). All of it has been increasing, both diagnoses and the coping mechanisms people use.

The big thing is women have an actual CHOICE now. They have a choice to be independent, and they also have a choice to be in a traditional domestic family.

They always had that choice. I have a great aunt that never married, worked, and lived an independent life.

Lateralanouncer · 2022-04-25T01:01:17+00:00

Red pill (rollo) made those conclusions based on the fact that single woman are more likely to be on antidepressants than married woman.

Also, Socially we are past the discussion that woman, unless wiverly mined, brought up in a Patriarchal household, religious and etc. Dont want to be housewives, it is now common knowledge that modern woman don't want to be wives, they want to be independent of men and families. and most don't want to raise our children. The real question is now what?. Want is our social end game.

baresquad · 2022-04-25T01:59:37+00:00

This is true as fuck. I don’t see lonely cat women anywhere in my life.

People love to project, especially relationship-oriented people. It’s like since they want relationships they think everybody else shares their definition of happiness

There’s tons and tons of 40+ year old some making 6 figures and happily single by choice. These are people that all of us know in our personal lives but somehow the trope has always seem to existed since women started gaining more independence, making more money, etc.

neolib-cowboy · 2022-04-25T01:13:59+00:00

Its not a myth its true tho imo its bc of a decline in ignorance. . People knoe too much about the world and everything nowadays and it makes them anxious and depressed.

cuckedalt · 2022-04-25T00:52:35+00:00

The big thing is women have an actual CHOICE now. They have a choice to be independent, and they also have a choice to be in a traditional domestic family.

Not at these prices. By and large it takes two salaries to raise a family now. The exceptions appear to be at the extremes...rich enough to afford the opportunity cost of not working, or poor to a degree such that it would cost more to work due to the expense of childcare etc

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Basketballjuice · 2022-04-25T01:42:36+00:00

^{what's the manosphere}

KekeSmall · 2022-04-25T01:54:10+00:00

We all were born alone and we all will most likely die alone. Even if a woman gets married, she’s more likely to outlive her husband, so she’ll still die alone. In my opinion it’s better to be alone, then stuck with someone who makes you feel alone.

InfernoFlameBlast · 2022-04-25T02:19:03+00:00

Man or woman, I don’t think most people want to be single most of their life. Being independent seems to be another term for choosing to remain single

I agree it’s possible to be happy and independent. But In general, I think most people will eventually crave companionship, crave intimacy, to be loved, to be supported, to be desired, to be understood by another, and to start a family…

Title	The modern unhappy independent women: A myth
Author	DaburuKiruDAYO
Upvotes	6
Comments	20
Date	April 25, 2022 12:47 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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