I don’t really know what to do right now. (A bit of a rant)

flibbidy_floob · 2022-05-15T02:23:53+00:00

I remember traveling internationally for the first time. It was quite eye-opening when I met women who could socialize without making everything into some kind of political statement. These were bright, fun, open-minded women who actually would give me a chance instead of just assuming I was some kind of patriarchal oppressor, or whatever the feminists are calling us these days. Not sure what country you're in but friend, trust me, there are still many places on earth where the women have not been taught such fear and hatred towards the opposite gender.

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2022-05-15T00:10:15+00:00

This is the hostile environment they have created for men at college. This will have to change if they want men to return to the university.

pg5565 · 2022-05-15T02:53:18+00:00

I can relate to this. Every girl I have spoken to has at some point have voiced their disgust of men. Personally it wore my self confidence down so much, I had to set boundaries. If they voiced hate towards men I would basically end the friendship. I have fewer friends now but, the ones I have don't hate what is a core part of my identity.

I know it is not easy to do in a class setting and universities like to turn a blind eye to it, even in male dominated domains. I am not sure what your situation is but, the ratios and attitudes you see in class are similar to those in the profession. If that is the case, you may need to do some soul searching. If this is just for a few courses and doesn't effect your profession, keep your head down, make some friends who don't think that way and can support you. There are still people at university who were raised to respect everyone around them.

Funny story: I once took a history of technology course, taught by a man, and every unit was dedicated to how technologies in history aided in the opression of women. Ever have to write an essay on how the stirrup was an oppressive piece of tech? 🤣🤣

vaaralinen · 2022-05-15T00:40:37+00:00

Well, there are many women who support MRM, and not every woman, even feminist, actually is man-hating (although it is the case with the most), just misinformated but open to reasoning, you could probably either enlighten those of women around who haven't completely lost their dignity and conscience (although it might be mentally straining) or find a female MRM supporter (which is extremely rare but at least they exist and that's a comfort), as for those who are completely brainwashed into misandry, limiting all contact with them is good if you can't stand up for yourself. Still, try starting small and at least reminding them they're sexist and anti-equality, without compromising and accepting excuses, you don't have to argue or explain, just stand firm, and don't do them any favours asked of you "because you're a strong man and must help the damsels", silently boycott such things at least. They already say they hate you, and you shouldn't respect them for that either. So will their hatred change anything? Or if you're considered a friend/good person tell them constantly that it's offensive to you. Try "allying" with more open-minded men if possible and stating your point to them, this should be safer. Maybe use some dating space but state that you will not tolerate women who do not respect men, even if it'll cause hate then at least it'll make a statement however small, and big things are built on small things which are people. Which all might be too easy for me to say as I am probably a braver person, so I apologize if that sounded more offensive than applicable.

And obviously try getting more support online, especially female (as it helps build confidence that there is still hope), maybe listen to honeybadger radio that has good women, if you haven't already

PandaFoo1 · 2022-05-15T00:59:07+00:00

Yeah I get how it feels. I used to be so immersed in feminist/social justice circles online & only recently have I really taken a step back & realised how toxic feminism as a movement & ideology is towards men & how that effected my own feelings about myself.

I’m still passionate about equal rights for everyone but it’s honestly sad how quickly people abandon their supposed beliefs and values when it comes to people they view as “privileged”. It feels like you’re constantly on thin ice & if you dare defend yourself or say how you honestly feel you’ll just be torn apart by the people who claim to care about everyone.

Hopefully I didn’t sound too doomerish or negative.

NutsLikeMelons · 2022-05-15T01:59:27+00:00

It sucks but all you can do is work on yourself and ignore the noise. Things I wish I had known more about at your age:

Sort out your career plan.

Get a financial planner.

Look into FIRE

Go to the gym and sort out your diet.

Understand that the power dynamics change with men and women when we hit 30-35.

Pussy is nice, but renting it is cheaper than buying it.

Make yourself a driven, fit, financially independent man and trust me you will be drowning in women before you know it. Sadly at your age and stage you have almost no value. Just the way it is - but it doesn’t last forever.

ExtraGreenBox · 2022-05-15T03:15:18+00:00

Welcome to the matriarchy! You’ll be told it’s a patriarchy.

Nachtlicht_ · 2022-05-15T12:55:22+00:00

It's good you're open about your feelings. I don't know which university is this but most typical people you meet on the street, men and women, would consider men hating feminists weirdos at least where I live and yet still I kind of know how you feel because of how globalized everything is (I struggled with this for like two years) - I suspect you're from some English speaking country. Even there, it's fairly impossible for most of them to feel that way, probably just a few are vocal and the rest simply seem to not give a ****, don't they. You see, it's not easy to be sensitive and rational woman too nowadays. I'd advice you to focus on your course and not subjugate to hateful communities, seek supportive people. "There will be a time when you'll know a wise man not by what he knows, but rather what he ignores" or smth like that.

YesYesYesVeryGood · 2022-05-15T13:09:19+00:00

41M here. if you want to socialize with women, go to clubs you are interested in. Focus on the activities. You and them will naturally gravitate to each other. I was in an anime club in college. Worked out fine.

Focus on your studies bro. Women will be around in college and after college. Job is way more important than getting laid. you can do both, but make sure your career is your priority.

A truth i realized is that women who "hate all men" say it for different reasons. Ironically, I noticed that as soon as they leave that environment, they are chasing men for dick.

2022-05-15T14:26:40+00:00

In a way you would do well to be thankful that the truth of how they feel is so openly expressed. You must be strong and understand they have opinions like all of us have assholes.

Don’t let it get you down.

The plus side is you are now aware. You can now be very careful. Unlike the older generation who were fooled and had to learn the hard way at much cost. Many of us were feminist supporters. Men of your generation will see right through the BS.

I think we need to redefine male bonding in this era. Know that probably no one really has your back but if anyone does it’s your bro.

I think because we cannot enjoy the feminine side of women anymore we men must develop our own feminine side and offer comfort to other men (none of this is even remotely sexual).

We must accept our own vulnerability and support each other. We have to stop laughing if a man claims a women sexually harassed him. Jokes like “I wish my HS teacher molested me at age 14”. It’s funny but not anymore. We need to be more understanding and supportive of other men.

I think these sorts of things will guide you and shape you. We need to be more united and understanding.

Narco-wolf · 2022-05-15T18:42:59+00:00

Bro I’m in college too and I can attest to what you are going through. However I would tell you to try and come out of your shell and focus on putting yourself in a better position. They hate men but that’s exactly why we need to keep our heads up and stand tall. Even if these women hate men I would say try to talk to some so at least you get experience handling these type of girls. Don’t get so down on yourself, they’re getting harder to find but there are ladies out there that are pleasant. Stay encouraged man!

ShitFauxBrains · 2022-05-15T21:36:13+00:00

i’m not a guy and there are women in this sub. try to find some peace in the fact that it’s not all women. it’s popular now with girls in the high school/ college age. but not everyone feels that way. it’s rare. but they exist. i have a few female friends who don’t think like this either.

shit-zen-giggles · 2022-05-15T06:41:19+00:00

Many women at my college say “I hate all men”.

Hate ultimately hurts the carrier the most. Don't let their verbal abuse get to you. I grew up with an abusive mother, I know how difficult it is. You need to constantly remind yourself that they are sick and diluded and that nothing they say really relates to reality.

I’m just a pussy I guess.

No. You're making a very sensible choice to limit the effect negative, toxic people have on you. That's not 'being a pussy' that's simply being smart.

Keep your head down, get your degree and get out of there as soon as possible.

Potato-with-guns · 2022-05-15T05:08:55+00:00

Keep your head down in college because that shit is way too expensive to just give up halfway through and way too important to never do. Feminist teachers will take any opportunity to drop grades if they realize you are an MRA. Unless someone is going to be physically hurt never stand up for someone in public because you don't want eyes on you. If you have problems with discrimination for being a man consult a title IX organization, specifically a male-oriented one, and file a complaint.

Flashy_Glove6208 · 2022-05-15T06:19:44+00:00

Focus on yourself and your studies.

Cut off interaction with these crazy people.

Find a male space to interact in your leisure time, like a male only gym, a martial arts gym or a male sports team.

You need to find and surround yourself with male masculine brothers and build your male support circle outside of college.

lookathismonkey · 2022-05-15T07:43:28+00:00

I wont give up on my life goals, but I am never getting in a relationship.

Locuralacura · 2022-05-15T03:44:08+00:00

Lean into it. Next time you feel like a pussy, raise your hand at the end of class and stand up and just shout, "I hate men. Men are horrible. Men should die."

Leave it with no further explanation and the womenists will see how ridiculous they sound.

DurianOne7313 · 2022-05-15T13:46:14+00:00

Go through the motions and get your degree. Then the world will open up. College is some fantasy land for leftists. It gets better once you don't have forced interactions with IDIOTS.

Puzzleheaded_Hyena_3 · 2022-05-15T17:32:57+00:00

Relax you just said you’re in a 80% female schools. Your experiencing a hellish thing called a echo chamber, and not even a positive one but a negative one. Ignore that shit and move forward

Lurker_IV · 2022-05-15T18:14:55+00:00

Just look them in the eye and say,

"You do look exactly like a very hateful person. When I think of hate I think of you."

Alarming_Draw · 2022-05-15T19:16:07+00:00

The irony is its the most man hating women who say shit like "all men are evil" who respond the most positively to men who treat them like shit.

So dont worry if they dont respond great to you-you are a good guy, but are surrounded by vile man hating toxic women. Its a GOOD sign that they show little interest in you. It shows you are not the type of psycho they would all flock to. It means you ill eventually end up dating and finding a GOOD, BALANCED, normal woman, not some damaged crazy douche bag.

WisconsinRiver · 2022-05-15T19:56:45+00:00

The key to happiness is within. This true love stuff is bull shit. Start with making yourself someone you love first. Stop it with seeking so much external validation. It's fleeting and meaningless if you aren't happy with yourself first.

Strange-Union5078 · 2022-05-15T06:08:00+00:00

Don’t be afraid to use the cafeteria or go to classes. They don’t have any ill feelings towards you. It’s mostly an overused joke - there are some women that do actually hate men but 95% of them who say that are just repeating it from Twitter bc they think it’s cute

AdForeign6097 · 2022-05-15T07:29:27+00:00

Maybe stop acting like broad based political statements about our socio economic hierarchy are actually sleeper insults directed at you. If you lose your victim mentality about being confronted with the realities of this hierarchy you will most likely become happier as you will understand why these things are said, and at the very least will understand the world better.

bubbybyrd · 2022-05-15T21:16:24+00:00

This really screams incel. The world is bigger than your university and the 18-20 year old students that your talking about.

You sound so hopeless and dramatic (only chance is to be gay), as if there isn't other options or life outside of your current situation.

Nihilistnigg · 2022-05-15T21:37:06+00:00

Who says you "have" to be gay? You can just be by yourself you know.

Title	I don’t really know what to do right now. (A bit of a rant)
Author	ArticRex
Upvotes	80
Comments	65
Date	May 15, 2022 12:04 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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