Crosspost "Are men unable to secure relationships with women due to their misogyny? A look at the data." from /r/PurplePillDebate:

It’s a commonly accepted idea on PPD and elsewhere that men are often single because their misogynistic behavior puts women off.

On the surface, this is an intuitively satisfying idea. One would expect that men who treat women poorly would have a difficult time forming stable relationships with them.

Although this is likely the case at least some of the time, I was curious to see if things like male virginity positively correlated to higher levels of sexism and misogyny in men, and if men who enjoyed sexual success had the opposite traits.

It’s common on Reddit to ascribe a lack of success with women to misogyny. I think we’ve all seen responses to a sexually frustrated and lonely man that suggest it’s his personality or misogynistic attitudes that are hindering him, and that he needs to change those behaviors to do better. The implication is that misogynistic men don’t do well with women. Is this true? Let’s look at some data. I’ll do my best to represent the data in good faith, but I expect the kind folks of PPD to hold me accountable.

First, we’ll look at a study from Spain:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6224861/pdf/main.pdf

In this study of ~2,700 teenagers (about 50/50 male female) sexism was found to be strongly positively correlated with romantic and sexual success in boys.

Sexually active boys displayed higher levels of all three types of sexism: hostile, benevolent, and ambivalent. It also revealed that the girls were more attracted to sexist boys, particularly of the benevolent type.

The boys in the study who had the least sexual experience were found to have the lowest levels of all three types of sexism. This suggests that it may be the lack of sexism, rather than the presence of it, that hinders men’s success with women.

This study does have some obvious issues. First, this is a study of teenagers and may not be representative of adult behaviors and preferences. Second, this was done in Spain only and may not be representative of other Western countries. A thought provoking study, but let’s look at more data.

In this study from the US:

https://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC4842162&blobtype=pdf

555 men (aged 18 to 25) were tested via surveys on levels of misogynistic attitudes and adherence to stereotypical masculine behavior.

The study found that misogynistic men had more consensual sex, more casual sex, significantly more partners, watched more porn, committed more sexual violence, and visited sex worker more often.

This is an interesting study. I’m going to go ahead and post this to get the discussion going. Later, I’ll add some studies that have shown no link between virginity and misogynistic attitudes and some that’s show that rapists tend to have more consensual sexual partners than other men and are rated as more attractive to women (Michelle Maronne, anyone?)

Thanks for your engagement.


Posted by Capable-Resolve-2001 | 26 August 2022 | Link