Most men envy how successful men (HVM) don't fake their personality

Purple-Heiss · 2022-11-17T07:12:36+00:00

So my question for men: Why would you hate a percentage of men that did nothing to hurt you?

I wouldn't hate a man who is successful with women if he's a good person. The most "negative" thing I could feel towards such a dude would be healthy envy and I wouldn't mind being friends with him.

However, you have to be very naive to think all men who are successful with women are good people. Many of them treat other men awful, many of them treat everyone awful and many of them have sex with other men's girlfriends and wives; what's more, I bet many of them see it as a sport to get involved with partnered women. These dudes I do hate because they definitely hurt a lot.

FutureBannedAccount2 · 2022-11-17T05:05:40+00:00

So my question for men: Why would you hate a percentage of men that did nothing to hurt you?

I don’t

hungry_frenchy · 2022-11-17T08:40:05+00:00

Why would you hate a percentage of men that did nothing to hurt you?

I am not hating women for rejecting me and not hating men who are successful.

Yes there are times in which I wish it would be easier with women. But there is absolutely no hate involved.

Creation_Soul · 2022-11-17T07:01:03+00:00

I don't get this point. Isn't it common knowledge that people usually envy other people who are naturally more successful than them, due to luck, talent, ability etc?

in my country there is an ongoing debate/frustration/envy about people working in IT on "why do they earn so much money, when they don't produce anything useful and they just sit on their buts all day and just type on a computer". There may be some hyperbole in my description, but the gist is there.

urukshai3 · 2022-11-17T11:53:24+00:00

_So my question for men: Why would you hate a percentage of men that did nothing to hurt you?

I do not see any hate there besides some basic jealously, and often men who are jealously are the least masculine and most bluepilled men, who are not there to fight for their own position and win, but rather try to put others down.

I remember some lady put pepper on a miss universe' makeup... that is hate on jealousy. I do not see such things among men at all. They rather fight each other to dead or show how better they are at their skills than playing those stupid sneaky games.

Women have a baseline of attraction so they put each other down because a woman who is a 8 is not so different from one that is a 10 for a man. Both are attractive enough for a relationship and love.

Men, men who compete and win, rather focus on improving themselves and finding their niche and later women stick around to leech them.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-11-17T14:20:41+00:00

A lot of it comes down to jealousy. The angry bitter dudes feel like someone else is getting what they want and deserve (cause I’m a nice guy!) and they aren’t getting laid and other dudes are and that’s not fair!

SilentFroggy · 2022-11-17T04:16:09+00:00

I don’t really understand your post.

I don’t know if I would say we hate them, but it hurts because it feels as we lost and are worthless.

Mydragonurdungeon · 2022-11-17T04:18:04+00:00

The fuck?

No. What has happened is that they have fully embraced that other personality. The other men still have reservations.

Think about this logically. You know how you still feel like a kid sometimes?

So do they.

They simply are so used to pretending otherwise it is their default.

It's like government agents. They still have those childish thoughts and impulses.

They simply are so used to pretending they are James bond they default to that.

Sutanrei · 2022-11-17T08:02:16+00:00

That's not true about HVM as far as how they treat women and even if it was there is a thousand other things men would be jealous about unrelated to that.

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AdditionalPrice7336 · 2022-11-17T06:53:58+00:00

"_So my question for men: Why would you hate a percentage of men that did nothing to hurt you?"

Envy is a sin.

lurker7128 · 2022-11-17T19:25:56+00:00

As a middle of the road guy (23 M, 5’11”, $65k) , I’d say I envy them in the way I envy the extremely wealthy. I dont hold it against the individual HVM, in the same way I don’t hold it against individual rich people. It’s more a general discontent on how steep the inequality has become over the years.

There’s no point in advocating equality here in the same way trying to tax the rich or whatever doesn’t work either. You know the rat race is probably futile, but you’re going to run it anyways because what else are you going to do with your life?

NFthrowaway8302021 · 2022-11-18T06:26:27+00:00

Interesting take but I don't agree with it.

My view is most people are bad. Most men are bad. And most women are bad. And generally, most men who are good with women are bad, because most women are bad... Like attracts like. So a guy who is a good person probably has fewer partners because, if he is looking for his match, then there aren't a lot of good women.

Title	Most men envy how successful men (HVM) don't fake their personality
Author	Chemical_Major_1403
Upvotes	5
Comments	14
Date	November 16, 2022 8:31 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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