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I was in a weird mood when I made this. Truly feminine woman are mothers. Modern Feminism has portrayed motherhood as a negative. How the Hell can a civilization survive? The “Trad” wife is then demonized

Educational_Risk7196

January 18, 2023
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Title I was in a weird mood when I made this. Truly feminine woman are mothers. Modern Feminism has portrayed motherhood as a negative. How the Hell can a civilization survive? The “Trad” wife is then demonized
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Educational_Risk7196

Upvotes 69
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Date January 18, 2023 4:46 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/AntiFeminists
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/10fc2ci/i_was_in_a_weird_mood_when_i_made_this_truly/
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[–]bunt_klut2 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That font really pisses me off

[–]RodCherokee 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes it’s a neo wannabe Greek experiment.

[–]MagentaSteam 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The ‘E’ makes you want to E-vacuate?

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The E makes me want to Execute myself

[–]EasternToe3824 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Basically the "man up" for women and just as horrid as argument for anything.

[–]TribalMoose101 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Civilization cannot survive if people dont procreate. Though calling it feminine is innately a propaganda technique. One which i am not especially against.

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Civilization can't happen if dudes don't make families either. Yeah the whole carry the family name crap but other than that are guys told to have babies specifically.

[–]TribalMoose101 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Um, ye… guys are told to get married and have kids… the difference there between men and woman is that men dont have to sacrifice a lot of time in pregnancy and infant care, they are also not expected to sacrifice a lot of time in the care of the child at older ages. They are expected to bring in the cash

[–]sho3gazezzastroknott 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Aaaawwww cant call them that anymore.... Birth givers is the politically correct term given to cis women now remember?!!

[–]Itchy-Rough-551 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I thought it was "birthing people"?... side note: that term seems pretty ableist and discriminatory. What about women that can't give birth?

[–]Normal-Yogurtcloset5 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What about people who can’t give birth?

[–]sho3gazezzastroknott 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes, i stand corrected "birthing-people" i believe is the correct phrasing

"Birthing-people day".... yoowww

And i guess the women who cant bare children dont matter to these ignorant fuckers, i wouldn't be at all surprised if the idea of this is something that the morons who come up with this foolishness would probably find some form of twisted glee in.

[–]TheMorningJoe 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait… is that true? Lol

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So are men Nut Givers?

[–]Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women have the ability to give birth without being a conventional Trad wife. I'm pretty sure the majority of individuals in this Reddit didn't come from a Conventional Trad child hood. I know I didn't and I'm in my 40s.

Birthing people is so rude lol . I see all the dudes trying to be appropriately sarcastic.

[+]Lavarosen 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Modern feminism has not portrayed motherhood as a negative? I’ve only seen it where the younger generations are having less kids (men and women both) because of economic complications like housing, education, and jobs.

Feminine women do not have to be mothers, they can live as gorgeous women without children if they choose.

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

Nobody NEEDS to be a mom or dad. It should be a volunteering choice. So many kids are abused and misguided due to ppl popping out kids just for social status

[–]askntithies -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

Oh no the world isn't perfect! Let's stop having kids 👍

[–]cabsmom2020 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

That's not what they are saying. Some people shouldn't have kids. It should be up to the individual.

[–]askntithies -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

The issue with this fucking society is everyone is now making this choice for the same wishy washy altruistic reason. Keep going like this and watch the birth rates plummet to hell. There are a million excuses to not have kids – you will never not have trauma, you will never be rich enough – we don't live in a utopia.

[–]LardBall13 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I’ll allow the birth rates to drop.

[–]askntithies -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alright Rockefeller.

[–]cabsmom2020 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

WELL, do you want people to have kids to keep the population going? That's not a great reason to have kids. Do you hand any idea how many kids are abused or neglected?

[–]askntithies 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Do you have any idea how many kids are cheated out of a chance at life by parents who abort them out of inconvenience or fear of 'poverty'?

I was abused by my father growing up, it was hell, yet I still love that I'm alive and that will never be an excuse.

[–]cabsmom2020 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

NO, that will never be an excuse in YOUR opinion. I'm not talking about abortion so I won't address that. I'm talking about people who choose to be childless.

[–]askntithies -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

If only everyone thought like me then 👉💯

[–]MagentaSteam -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]askntithies -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No one needs to think like you. It's whoever has the baby's choice to keep or not. NOT yours.

[–]askntithies -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not yours either lol.

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

My guy you sound angry af for no reason

[–]askntithies -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't care.

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You really do. Sounds like you have women issues. Ever try talking to one? You'll see they're just like the average Joe and not child dispensers for you

[–]askntithies -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're going full blown feminism lingo at this point lol. Use that incel word I know you're dying to.

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would I say that? You need to get so facts right. Keep to your own and let the women do as they please 🤷‍♂️

[+]Jayden2099 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

We just reached 8 billion. I don't think a handful of younger people choosing to not have kids is going to have a devastating effect.

Kids are not for everyone and it is incredibly selfish to bring another life into this world if you aren't 100% prepared.

[–]askntithies -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nobody is 100% prepared. Your parents weren't, and neither were mine. But fuck it I guess, this generation is truly the most bizarre one to date.

[+]Jayden2099 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s really odd how you seem to be pushing people into having having children…

Children aren’t for everyone and that’s ok

[–]askntithies -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Clearly.

[–]cabsmom2020 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I have a child, but if I didn't, I'd still be just as feminine.

[–]Jukingku22 -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its less about being mother and more about being motherly

[–]DutchOnionKnight 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Agreeableness is by definition a part of femininity... Feminist are many thing, but agreeable they aren't.

[+]Fausty79 -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No, the definition of femininity is “qualities or attributes regarded as characteristics of women or girls”

Agreeable may be in your idea of femininity, but it certainly isn’t in everyone’s

Clearly you haven’t raised a daughter, there is nothing agreeable about them from about age 12 on up

[–]DutchOnionKnight -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I said agreeableness is a part of femeninity But sure, your daughter in puberty is the average woman.

[+]Fausty79 -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreeableness is not a feminine quality, it’s you idea of what a woman should be. Agreeableness is just as much a masculine quality in my book. I think men should be agreeable, I find that many are.

[–]MagentaSteam 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Don’t let this dude get to ya, he’s off his nut lol. Me and mom had a high chance of dying together because I was premature—He’s in his own little world. Making an stupid conclusion because you don’t agree with him. Kinda like… a toxic feminist. :o

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There are posts I can understand here but this was a flop. Men shouldn't tell women what do do and women shouldn't be telling men what to do period

[–]MagentaSteam 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes indeedy. We’re always going to have flops because there are people who think this is a great opportunity to promote their trad beliefs(in the worst possible way) and stoop to the level of feminist subs. But we also have a lot of people in this sub to call out people’s crap. It’s one of the things that reeled me into r/antifeminists in the first place.

[–]Frird2008 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The system cannot survive off of tradition, so the elites use feminism as a vehicle to perpetuate the continual existence of the system.

[–]Njaulv 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

No. This is bullshit. Women have no obligation to be mothers or are not less feminine for not being mothers. Fuck this conformist trad bullshit.

[–]Lifeisblue444 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree. I'm an antifeminist myself but this is bullshit. What abouts women who can't give birth!? Are they less feminine now too because they don't have children? What about men who can't get women pregnant are those men less masculine now too because they don't have kids?

Having children doesn't make a person regardless of gender any more or less feminine or masculine. This is just a dumb fucking post that just fuels the other side more by being sexist as fuck. People have a right to live their lives as they please. If men don't wanna be fathers they have that right to not be and will still be just as manly as ever, same goes for any woman she's still just as womanly and feminine if she doesn't want kids.

What an honest to god shit post to both men and women. Shit like this is why I'm most likely gonna unsub.

[–]mcove97 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree with everything on each sub but you can always stick around. The feminist sub isn't much a treat either tbh

[–]MagentaSteam 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I’m not getting it. What’s motherhood gotta do with being truly feminine? If that’s the trad way of thinking, I think it’d better to state that. But then again, looking at OP’s history, it’s probably a fetish of his lol.

[–]askntithies 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Women are less feminine for not being mothers the same way men are less masculine for not being fathers.

Let's not forget the very terms (masculine/feminine) that you're using are intertwined with marriage and procreation.

[+]Lavarosen 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

We get it, you have a breeding kink, your comments are so fucking weird in thinking everyone needs to have children. Some people would rather ensure their kids are loved, heathy and cared for rather than just ensure they have kids. Stop forcing gender roles onto people.

[–]askntithies 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Chronically online creature calls the natural disposition to have children a "breeding kink". Jesus Christ.

[+]Lavarosen 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for dehumanizing me, I bet you wonder why you make people uncomfortable.

A breeding kink is the excitement or enthusiasm to impregnate or get impregnating, and overall means having sex that has a high chances of ending in pregnancy. It’s not negative, but it’s a kink. The natural disposition you speak of is nearly gone in the human race because of our high population and societal expectations for us to succeed in other areas of life. It’s normal to have kids, it’s normal to not have kids.

[–]askntithies 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you for dehumanizing me

Stopped reading, go outside idc.

[+]Lavarosen 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Embrace your kink honey, no one will judge you 😚

[–]Njaulv 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are not intertwined with marriage and procreation. Man and Woman are originally biological terms. Adult male and Adult female. masculine and feminine are based on that. There is nothing less feminine about a woman that wants to not be a mother or masculine about a man that wants to not be a father.

[+]Aromatic_Ad5473 -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The words masculine and feminine are not “intertwined with marriage and procreation”

What a terrifically stupid thing to say

[–]askntithies 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't explain how I'm wrong

[+]Aromatic_Ad5473 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

FFS google is free

The adjective masculine is borrowed partly from French ‘masculin’ and partly from Latin ‘masculinus’. The word was first used in English, in the late 14th century, with the grammatical meaning. In the 15th century it started to be used to refer to male people and animals, while its use to mean manly or virile dates from the mid 16th century.

feminine (adj.) mid-14c., "of the female sex," from Old French femenin (12c.) "feminine, female; with feminine qualities, effeminate," from Latin femininus "feminine" (in the grammatical sense at first), from femina "woman, female,"

[–]askntithies -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Still doesn't explain how I'm wrong, just gives me the etymology of both words to sound intelligent

I like how your second definition mentions feminine qualities though, one of which is caringness, which has to do with women being childbearers. Slowly proving my point here. One masculine quality is being a leader, which also comes from men being leaders of the family unit. Want me to continue or are you gonna take the L?

[+]Aromatic_Ad5473 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Explain to me how you’re right?

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Femcand masc are however a person defines themselves. You need to butt out

[–]askntithies -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, they are not. This is a progressive view and is based in gender ideology.

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

This post doesn't take into account that pregnancy and birth are super risky and can endanger the mothers life, plus babies are expensive!

[–]askntithies 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Pregnancy is not risky statistically speaking, stop spreading misinformation.

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Shut your mouth. You've probally never expirenced it. Pregnancy is STILL dangerous and women and babies die. Your body can get torn apart. Don't speak on issues you don't know about, child

[–]askntithies 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Lmfao, have you been pregnant pal?

94% of all maternal deaths occur in low and lower middle-income countries.

Meaning just 6% occur in the Western world with access to healthcare (probably even lower). Pregnancy has never been safer.

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Honey keep your nose out of lady buisness. I can see you won't be having any with that attitude

[–]askntithies 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No uterus no opinion is that right, feminist?

[–]Former_Ocelot5593 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

When did I say feminist? If it's not your pregnancy and youre not paying the fees then you have no right to judge

[–]askntithies 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm pointing out that you sound exactly like a feminist, read slower.

[–]justmemeingaround 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I was born to a 22 Year old mother, never met a stronger woman, despite the fact she was only 5'0"

[–]Langland88 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oddly enough, I feel like the shorter women often have the biggest personalities especially when it comes to motherhood. That's not to say there aren't tall women with this personality but I have known plenty of shorter women who are strong and very loving mothers.

[–]justmemeingaround 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

My mom had made some life choices that forced her to adopt a strong defence (also could've just been the Portuguese blood lol) so when she raised me she always made a point to make sure I never made the same mistakes she made, no matter how overbearing I found her lol

But she did a good job, 23 years old and I've never been brought home by the cops

Miss her all the time tho :(

[+]azurix 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Visually this sucks.

And the reason why is the same reason guys don’t want kids either. Choice.

With more information now people that are educated are not interested in the downsides of kids. You get an heir to what? I’ll probably leave them nothing. I can barely get by on my own with rising prices everywhere. Lack of socioeconomic help. If you have any younger individuals in your life you know schools aren’t the best. There’s so many reasons to be apprehensive or just say no. I’d rather enjoy my life for myself. Plus adopting is always an option too. After 3 generations we won’t matter and our names won’t be spoken. We’ll be in a grave or urn at best.

On top of that. How many guys can offer a trad husband lifestyle? Can you offer to be the sole breadwinner with a house and college funds and more?

[–]Lifeisblue444 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly! This sub has become bullshit! Ok yea fuck women for not being mothers and all that. But how the do these dumbasses expect to even be good fathers as well? It's not just mothers, it's also a responsibility of fathers.

This post is completely bullshit. What about MGTOW? Most people just don't want kids. It's not even a feminist thing either. Truth is...it's hard as shit just living for yourself these days. It's shit like this that's just inconsiderate as fuck to everyone.

[+]azurix 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s cringey if anything.

It’s honestly so interesting that dating has become a war zone with how hateful both sides are acting like one side is constantly to blame. It’s issues that has been building for years. It comes with the progress we’ve made as a society and it sucks that it it’s affect certain aspects but there’s definitely more to enjoy out of it too. It’s just making sure you enjoy more than being bitter and weird online.

[–]Jukingku22 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its less about being mother and more about being motherly

[+]Fausty79 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When did feminism demonize motherhood? What are you people smoking over here? Telling a girl she doesn’t have to have kids to have value is not portraying motherhood (which frankly isn’t all it’s cracked up to be) as negative, it is just stating that you are more than just a womb.

[–]couchgodd -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Im just glad they make themselves known so you can avoid them.

[–]xingerbux 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Test tube 🧪, “in the year 2525 “ :(

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