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What are your thoughts on this kind of double-standards and why is this an acceptable one? (starts at 1 minute)

punapearebane

January 22, 2023
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Title What are your thoughts on this kind of double-standards and why is this an acceptable one? (starts at 1 minute)
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Date January 22, 2023 8:08 PM UTC
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What are your thoughts on this kind of double-standard and why is this an okay double-standard?

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January 22, 2023
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[–]Mrs_DrgreeNow Accepting Simp Applications[M] [score hidden] 3 years ago stickied comment (3 children) | Copy Link

No link dropping

[–]AcanthocephalaNew947Willing to tell you its your face not your personality. 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

To be fair in real life I wouldn’t see either one as normal I’d think it was extremely odd to say to a young boy but I digress.

Male sexuality is seen as predatory and a threat and female sexuality isn’t, to some it’s seen as a positive even when it is predatory, look at how female teachers molestinf their students is treated, look at the shit little boys wear “future heartbreaker” as if that’s a positive. It’s proclaiming this young man’s sexuality will be desired by women when he’s an adult! And that’s a good thing!

The more you dig into it the stranger it gets honestly, but yeah to put it simply male sexuality is a threat and women’s isn’t.

[–]punapearebane[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, Ive thought about this. And its so strange how different sexuality can be. And it makes me wonder what else is derived from this difference. Maybe everything shouldnt be made “equal” since our sexualities are so different by design.

Like is it similar to opening a door to a woman? Would be weird and emasculating for a man?

[–]-angels-fan-Pitbull loving male feminist 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Male sexuality is predatory and female sexuality is not.

Simple as that.

[–]punapearebane[S] -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

That is actually so well put. But why is that? Because males have always had to “prey” or otherwise “attract” females?

[–]-angels-fan-Pitbull loving male feminist 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

We're no different than any other primates on a biological level.

Men complete and women choose the best mate. This happens all across the animal kingdom.

Sure, we have an added layer of complexity that is culture and our higher brain being able to override our lizard brain, but at our core, we are just animals performing our biological imperative.

[–]punapearebane[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds fair. I guess women are not “actively” sexual like men. But rather “passively”? Waiting? And that is why women are less dangerous?

[–]-angels-fan-Pitbull loving male feminist 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women's sexuality is responsive.

They typically aren't turned on until something happens to them to turn them on.

[–]Mean_Veterinarian688 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

not true. i have friends who have been molested by women. ive been groped by women

[–]punapearebane[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes ofcourse. There are female predators as well. I’m just wondering why this double-standard then stands.

Edit : Also I am sorry this happened to you.

[–]Mean_Veterinarian688 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

i didnt watch the video but differences are men hate unwanted advances but are less threatened (unless theyre armed) by the women so are less likely to be intimidated or even have it get to the point where the woman gets what she wants

[–]punapearebane[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Everyone hates unwanted advances. It’s unwanted. But yes, i suppose a woman in general is less threatening.

[–]Mean_Veterinarian688 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yes i didnt mean only men i was just outlining the situation for men

[–]punapearebane[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, a woman might feel her life is in danger 😀. The sexualities are just so different in their core.

[–]BPTforever 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's the way it is portrayed by modern society. The same act would be considered reprehensible or positive depending if has been done by either a man or a woman. It's a prejudice and it's bigoted, and shouldn't be tolerated in a civilized society that consider itself to be driven by justice and fairness.

[–]-angels-fan-Pitbull loving male feminist 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, I agree.

But this is the reason we are where we are.

[–]forever5y -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Too many men act inappropriately when it comes to sexual behavior. Society views the protection of children so highly that it has a zero tolerance to anything suspicious. It's like joking about having a bomb in the airport. The risk it too high so they can't take any chances. On the other hand, it is rare for a woman to act this way, so the behavior is viewed differently.

Yes it sucks, but you can't ignore the numbers.

[–]KaminaxgurrenPurple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, not interested in being held in suspicion just because of my gender. While I feel for people, especially women, ultimately I have decided that while I won't just completely refuse to speak to people who would see me as suspicious or dangerous because I am a man, I will refuse to engage in any conversation that involves me explicitly or implicitly falsely identifying myself or my gender as anything inherently negative.

[–]punapearebane[S] -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Fair point. I wonder if there are other double standards as well derived from this reason. It seems society trusts women a bit more. At least their sexuality part.

[–]blebbyroo 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Most women aren’t blinded by lust it doesn’t make us act in unreasonable ways (for the majority)

[–]punapearebane[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And yet we trust men to take powerful positions more. Well this far at least. It sounds like it carries a big risk factor with it. You never know. Like Epstein or Weinstein.

[–]blebbyroo 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don’t think we do trust men in powerful positions. The older ones like Epstein were partly so powerful because the world still heavily favoured men when they were coming up.

Men have an easier time reaching power without having to do child birth or rearing, but I don’t think anyone really trusts powerful men or women for that matter

[–]punapearebane[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha fair point. Nobody trusts powerful people.

[–]forever5y 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Another example of this is how many women would feel comfortable leaving their infant daughter at a daycare center run by middle aged men. They would rather trust a woman regardless of how irresponsible she might be or look than a room of middle aged men.

[–]punapearebane[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And it sounds totally reasonable. Not all men but the risk is just too high to take the chance.

[–]forever5y 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The fact is that our brains are designed to make choice with incomplete information. They do that extremely well but it means we fill in the gap with averages and assumptions. Based on the facts that we know. It creates bias and discrimination and unfair treatment of the individual. As intelligent people we are challenged with trying to weigh the risk of bucking the trends or going with the averages to keep our self sane and safe. Yes in a perfect world we should trust the intentions of others, but there are too many people who will take advantage of the desire to trust the individual and use it to harm.

Where is the balance, that is a question for everyone individually. Is it fair, NO. But we should never stop trying to find a better balance.

[–]punapearebane[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree. Very nice explanation btw.

[–]forever5y 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you

[–]obviousredflagNo Pill -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

It's not a double standard if it's not applied to the same group of people. Men and women are not the same group of people.

[–]punapearebane[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

But arent there a lot of double standards pointed out that women can do and its acceptable and men cant?

[–]obviousredflagNo Pill 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A standard might be wrong for one gender. But having different standards for different genders is not a problem in and of itself. Does't make it a double standard. It makes it a specific standard.

[–]anonymous-platypus1 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The kid thing should not be acceptable. And I feel like as more women are found to be predators and creeps it’s not going to be socially acceptable to say things like that. It’s also because men would see an older woman coming onto them as flattering: he can just have sex with her and leave.

[–]-angels-fan-Pitbull loving male feminist -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The group in question is "humans".

[–]obviousredflagNo Pill 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's like saying: Why is there a double standard with Citrus fruit? Lemons are praised for their sourness, but when an orange is sour, everyone rejects it and thinks of it as defective.

No, we are not talking about humans, but men and women.

[–]BPTforever 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

We're all part of society. Your line of thinking justify injustice and oppression

[–]obviousredflagNo Pill 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

No, my thinking explains fairness. Why is there sports for women and for men separately? We are all humans, we are all part of society, why the double standard for what is considered a top performance?

[–]BPTforever 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Justice is not a competition. Fairness implies equal treatment.

[–]obviousredflagNo Pill 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Fairness implies UNEQUAL TREATMENT. Sports are only fair if we don't treat women as men.

[–]BPTforever 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Not talking about sport, but about society as a whole. That being said, equality of opportunity in sport is equal treatment, just like in society.

[–]obviousredflagNo Pill 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

IT IS NOT.

Equality of opportunity would be: everyone who wants can compete over the world championship can participate. Best of luck, may the best win.

Fairness is: since women have different physiologies and endocrinologies, it's not fair to give everyone the same opportunity. We are going to split the contest into two subpopulations where men compete with men over the championship and women compete with women.

[–]BPTforever [score hidden] 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They still got to compete though, even if they're separeted by gender or weight. It's not like every contender finishes first and get a gold medal. In everything else, equality of opportunity IS fairness. Equality of outcome(equity) is not.

[–]obviousredflagNo Pill [score hidden] 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I did not mention equity at all.

[–]BPTforever [score hidden] 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Just prodding. Not sure where you stand exactly.

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[–]Scarce12 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's obviously just so hard these days for these women to meet attractive men.

[–]punapearebane[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What 😀. I don’t understand how this is relevant.

[–]Scarce12 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Obviously sex makes men impure.

[–]punapearebane[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And sex with men makes women impure.

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