New Zealand opposition party to go ahead with gender quota

CosmicKeys · 2013-11-03T09:30:32+00:00

Deeply disappointing. Instead of focusing on any ways society might be stopping young girls from aspiring to these goals and letting the results happen from there, they're enforcing something that takes away from the achievement of grown women.

Have a look at these graphs:

http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/graph/28634/women-in-parliament

http://www.indexmundi.com/new_zealand/gender-parity-in-national-parliament.html

NZ was the first country to give women the vote and has had two female Prime Ministers. It is one of the only countries in the world to make these sorts of achievements without quotas. Have a look.

edit: Oh, and once we have 50% female politicians I can only assume we'll be doing away with the Ministry of Women's Affairs. I'm sure that'll happen...

A proposal to make abortion a woman's choice was lost and instead abortion law will be referred to the Law Commission for review.

And when they actually have the chance to do something for women that makes sense they fumble. Abortion is legal here, but I think it's just in a bit of a legal limbo.

Rhodos · 2013-11-03T13:11:55+00:00

I love this one:

Labour has approved a gender quota that will ensure 45 per cent of its MPs are women after the next election and at least 50 per cent are women in 2017.

Notice that 50% is not the goal. The goal is "at least" 50%, which could very well be 90%. Insane.

garblegarble12 · 2013-11-03T13:04:20+00:00

I assume this means that women will also be capped at 50% given we are making this about gender equality rather than qualifications. Also what about quotas for Maori? And Asians? And immigrants? And the poor? Surely all minorities should be guaranteed a quota then?

Ma99ie · 2013-11-03T10:32:13+00:00

Disgusting. Women won't step up to the plate themselves, so let's just give them tiara's and hand them the positions.

yakon · 2013-11-03T12:36:56+00:00

So does this mean that there can't be more than 50% of women as well?

big_breakfastt · 2013-11-03T13:41:35+00:00

this is ridiculous, the people best suited to the requirements of the job should be elected, regardless of gender

Roro-Squandering · 2013-11-03T19:23:39+00:00

Ugh, you know, I actually love powerful women from the past. War heroes, scientists, political figures, anyone who's ever made a breakthrough. I have great respect for women innovators. But they worked hard to get what they had, they didn't pull the 'give me this automatically because I'm a girl' card.

Like imagine, Joan of Arc saying 'you can't keep me as a war captive, I'm a GIRL!'

red_tux · 2013-11-03T15:22:46+00:00

What troubles me is that this invalidates the concept of the voters voting for the candidate they want to represent them.

RainingDown1 · 2013-11-03T13:10:38+00:00

Earn your position is all i say, you should NOT be given it.

2013-11-03T15:27:41+00:00

Thats a shame, I really liked the new leader. They just lost my vote.

AgentCircle · 2013-11-03T19:46:49+00:00

For the last 120 years women have missed out. This is about getting women equity.

First of all, massive generalization.

Second, What have they been missing out on?!? 41% of the caucus is female. I'm sure there are other women in caucuses as well. It hardly seems to me like women are "missing out" in politics.

Third, you want gender equity in politics? Have a department for Men's Affairs.

2013-11-03T11:37:49+00:00

Yes, because quotas have worked out so well for Labor in Aus and the UK...

anonlymouse · 2013-11-03T13:38:12+00:00

Opposition party, so if they end up never getting into power after this that might be a lesson to political parties elsewhere.

Alexanderdaawesome · 2013-11-03T15:02:25+00:00

This could be a good thing. We could watch the beginning of women having all of the capital, and men being able to take half.

2013-11-03T18:47:58+00:00

"There are lots of women with merit. It's not about merit or representation, it's about representation that includes merit."

rubs forehead

So, it's about both of the things you just said it wasn't about.

GunOfSod · 2013-11-03T22:20:15+00:00

I contacted my local MP earlier in the year regarding this. It's disappointing that as a lifelong Labour voter I'm now going to need to find another party to support.

reluctantreddituser · 2013-11-03T12:18:08+00:00

Here you once again see that feminists are in no way really against using force and thereby ideologically align themselves with rapists. They lobby for these quotas all the time. A sick use of political force, of which they have more, to take positions in society rather than earn them as anyone else would.

Title	New Zealand opposition party to go ahead with gender quota
Author	CosmicKeys
Upvotes	78
Comments	26
Date	November 3, 2013 9:23 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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