Woman Gets Life Sentence for letting a 13 year old touch her breasts.

ragingpineapple · 2013-07-13T20:11:20+00:00

Sentence seems outrageously disproportionate to the crime, but I still don't like the slant her attorney tried to present, that the legislation did not foresee that the heavy handed mandatory minimums would apply to people like her client, or rather that the harsh sentences would not apply to women. I also find the waterworks and appealing to emotions to be offensive and sexist in that men can't pull that tactic. It's an admittance that women are viewed differently. Minimum mandatories do remove the court's ability to correctly asses the intricacies of cases in determining fair and just sentences, but the wrongness of it all is gender neutral. It does seem odd that she was not offered a plea deal to a lesser charge, but without an account of the DA's reasoning or access to the details of the case and her history, we can't ever know what happened there. Also don't know how the 13yo boy was affected.

I'd consider this more an example of the ridiculousness of the current application of legislation, than an example of women being treated the same as men in court, though an argument for both being true could obviously be made.

2013-07-13T21:26:52+00:00

Seems like a good example of why we shouldn't have minimum mandatory sentencing laws. I would rather this person receive psychiatric help then just imprisoning her for the rest of her life...

Nomenimion · 2013-07-13T22:47:33+00:00

She might have gotten a lighter sentence if she'd killed him.

BrambleEdge · 2013-07-13T21:40:00+00:00

Absolutely astounding and horrible. Her lawyer doesn't do a very good job handling the case it seems.

She brings up past abuse of her client as mitigating factors, I wonder: does this also apply to male rapists? Many, if not most, of them have a history of being raped as a child themselves. She also states that her client was under the influence during the crime as a mitigating factor, does this also apply to male rapists? Or does being drunk all of a sudden excuse or make the crime less egregious when the perpetrator is female?

Overall, I think her lawyer tried to argue the point that because she was a woman she should not be given a life sentence, that the legislature didn't have people like her in mind when they wrote the law (which is probably true, most legislatures likely don't). She brought up the highest sentence a female rapist had received prior to this, as if to say that women should not be handed the same lengthy sentences men get.

She does however bring up that sex offences result in higher sentences than murder, but once again she appears to argue that that is wrong because her client is a woman.

Anyway, yes, the sentence is obviously a miscarriage of justice, and she is probably right in saying that mandatory minimums are unconstitutional and wrong. However, for her to build her case on gender was entirely the wrong approach. Also, beginning to cry doesn't help her client...

I suppose we could see this as a win for equality, a woman receiving the same insane punishment men do, but it's a step in the wrong direction. Rather men's court treatments should be brought up to women's levels and not the other way around.

james3563 · 2013-07-13T22:52:00+00:00

I think the previous commenter hit the nail on the head in suggesting that the mandatory sentences were intended for men, not women. Though it's all disgusting, I wonder how many men have been similarly abused. A lot, I would guess. Readers should know that a significant supporter of mandatory sentencing, three strike rules, etc., is the prison system itself. Corrections unions in California, for example, are enormous and well paid, and were responsible for getting sentencing guidelines passed. http://www.cato.org/blog/californias-prisonunion-problem

vampvincent · 2013-07-13T22:55:50+00:00

Normally I'm against this kind of thing..

but she did receive 3 former chances, the first violation being having a 5 year old perform sex acts on her and video tape the action.

The first act alone was supposed to be 70 years, which while pretty crazy, isn't exactly too out of line with the punishment.

While I'm not for LIFE the woman is a complete example of the type of repeat rapist that has no intent of ever changing.

ENTP · 2013-07-13T22:39:35+00:00

Sex laws are ridiculous

ThePigman · 2013-07-13T23:49:19+00:00

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2013-07-13T22:54:23+00:00

This is overkill for a sentence, far too overkill. But I guess anything related to sex and natural bodyparts is worse than murder and kidnapping. Jesus christ America when will your average IQ go beyond 2 digits?

Mrmojoman0 · 2013-07-14T04:18:16+00:00

i would want to say "yay, a woman getting similar sentencing that a man would get", but this is still absolutely absurd and unethical. society is demonizing sex worse than violence and murder. both genders applied here it seems. i feel massive sorrow for the men and women going through this, and wish they could get proper psychiatric care instead.

not saying it's not bad, just that it shouldn't be worse than violence.

verglaze · 2013-07-13T20:39:15+00:00

I think the sentence is crazy, but why is this in mens rights?

TRC042 · 2013-07-13T21:36:28+00:00

The Feminazis and White Knights will jump on this one: gives them an example to parade the next time a man gets 15 years for kissing a girl with fake ID. Let's see how many visit this thread and downvote this comment.

Super_delicious · 2013-07-13T19:44:38+00:00

This is fucking horrid, disgusting bullshit. A Monty Python parody of justice. I have doubts a man would get this much of letting a pre-teen girl touch his penis...

Either way, according to the video she gets possible parole after 10 years. It is however, really odd to see a woman on the hitting end of the ridiculously high punishment stick. It kind of shows how ridiculous the laws are and how ludicrous the pedophilia paranoia has become that even females are negatively effected by it in court.

Ayevee · 2013-07-13T20:54:21+00:00

That seems like overkill...

Ron-Swanson · 2013-07-13T23:33:07+00:00

Story/context?

2013-07-13T23:44:53+00:00

She didn't get life, she got 10 years. Parole is mandatory unless you're an out of control inmate.

ThePigman · 2013-07-14T03:01:52+00:00

Whoa, male or female perp, that's a ludicrous sentence. In some places women get away with actual murder, in this state they can get life for a touchup? Amerika, the developed world's most sick-ass country.

Funcuz · 2013-07-14T10:48:12+00:00

That's just wrong. Everything about it is wrong. A life sentence for such a minor crime should most definitely be challenged all the way to the supreme court.

Having said that , well , that's what you get when you start drafting legislation out of paranoia and hysteria over any given issue. Also , this woman ain't no saint in the first place. She shouldn't have been in a position to have anybody but another inmate touch her tits.

qemist · 2013-07-14T11:43:10+00:00

No source other than youtub so it is not something to get interested in.

Title	Woman Gets Life Sentence for letting a 13 year old touch her breasts.
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Date	July 13, 2013 7:18 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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