Anyone noticed how homophobes are usually also incredibly mysogynistic

Novemberinthechair · 2021-03-01T23:26:02+00:00

That's because homophobia stems from misogyny.

"As Catharine MacKinnon put it so succinctly, “Man fucks woman; subject verb object.”[5] Men need to know who is in the fuck-object category. They need that category to be absolute because they need to know that they will never be in it. They know too well the sadism that they’ve built into their sexuality. This is the deal they make with each other: don’t do it to me, do it to her instead.

People who don’t conform to gender throw a wrench into the works. If men can’t tell who is a man and who is a woman, how will they know who is human and whom to use, whom to fuck? This is why homophobia springs from misogyny. The divide between human-subject and fuck-object has to be absolute to keep men—real men—safe from each other, physically and ideologically."

2021-03-01T23:26:08+00:00

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verisimilitude_too · 2021-03-01T23:57:17+00:00

Yep! I actually use this as a question to weed out LVM. “Have you ever had a crush on a man or found a man sexually attractive?” If they freak out about the question, or say anything homophobic, or refuse to answer, boy bye 👋🏻.

Fun_Sherbet · 2021-03-02T06:18:18+00:00

Kate Manne talks about this in Down Girl. That misogyny takes on its own unique forms based on whatever culture its in, but the end-result is the same: enforce patriarchal power. If anyone is to act out against the cultural norms that uphold patriarchy, the system of misogyny will retaliate in order to police that behavior into submission. Since a gay man goes against the heteronormative standards that uphold men's power, they are a threat to the machine. For a man to openly embrace femininity is even more of a threat.

2021-03-02T01:27:20+00:00

Sometimes men are homophobic because they fear gay men will do to them what straight men do to women.

2021-03-01T23:43:41+00:00

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oreooreooreos · 2021-03-02T08:54:40+00:00

Is this a shoutout to my ex? Because yes, he's the total definition of a homophobe + misogynist.

Fantastic-Living · 2021-03-02T04:24:06+00:00

Same thing with white supremacist men

vintagexrose · 2021-03-02T05:27:21+00:00

YUP!

Thesseli · 2021-03-02T16:20:23+00:00

They hate anything they see as female or feminine -- both women and homosexual men.

Auzurabla · 2021-03-03T00:27:46+00:00

The first man who ever, ever told me that women were oppressed was a gay guy I worked with. I'd read feminist books and taken women's studies in my late teens, but it was the first time a man had ever said it out-loud.

Title	Anyone noticed how homophobes are usually also incredibly mysogynistic
Author	Less-Weekend5123
Upvotes	513
Comments	22
Date	March 1, 2021 11:09 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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