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Follow up to the earlier AA post: they've backtracked...

LondonDude123

January 20, 2022
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/r/MensRights
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60075906
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Title Follow up to the earlier AA post: they've backtracked...
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LondonDude123

Upvotes 62
Comments 30
Date January 20, 2022 8:38 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/s8sc5r/follow_up_to_the_earlier_aa_post_theyve/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/follow-up-to-the-earlier-aa-post-theyve.1211558
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[–]Grind289 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

How is it they say: "When you're used to priviledges, equality feels like oppression". I'm wondering on what metric is based the assumption that stranded women are more at risk than men.

[–]Oncefa2 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fun fact: this phrase was coined by MRAs, not feminists:

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/bc.general/c8aGhd93M5A/QqAGONH4J-UJ

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/10/24/privilege/

[–]Grind289 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great find. Now we can tell the feminists that they're quoting MRAs, which would be the equivalent of quoting Hitler for them.

[–]stunspot 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I thought men were more likely to be victims of assault, though...

[–]Rockbottom503 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

BuT ItZ ThE MeNz HuRtInG ThE OtHeR MeNz

[–]stunspot 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I wonder how people who make such arguments feel about black-on-black crime...

[–]Rockbottom503 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yup, asking if they'd argue IPV and rape is less serious within gay and lesbian relationships, as opposed to heterosexual ones, because the perpetrator/victim are always the same gender is the one that really gets them.

[–]stunspot 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is a damned good argument! Thanks for sharing it.

[–]Extra-Strike2276 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lovely, this should be proof that feminism isn't about equality, it's about special treatment and being a victim. Of course it will be ignored, or outright denied as prioritising women is true equality in their opinions

[–]TheEthnicityOfASpoon 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

In the UK it is illegal under the Equality Act of 2010 to discriminate against anyone on the grounds of their sex. So the AA have to tread a very fine line between satisfying the Twitter mob, and abiding by the law.

This is what the AA said:

'Replying to her letter, Mr King, said "the safety of women, and all vulnerable customers, is 100% at the top" of its priorities.'
'He said the AA had "reminded staff" of its "vulnerable customer processes and procedures", and said if there was a breakdown involving a lone woman, "where there is any concern raised by the customer, they receive the highest level of care and priority."'

Now that looks like a statement written by a lawyer, as it does not specifically say, that they will come to a female customer faster than a male one just because of their sex. Rather his statement treads very carefully, namely:

"...the safety of women, and all vulnerable customers, is 100% at the top" of its priorities".

So what exactly does "...top of its priorities" mean? And anyone, including a male, could claim to be "vulnerable".

"...where there is any concern raised by the customer, they receive the highest level of care and priority."

So any customer can "...raise concern".

I think that one would have a hard time using that statement in a court of law to show they were discriminating against men in practice.

[–]LondonDude123[S] 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I mean considering the BBC were openly advertising jobs as "Not for White People" I think its safe to assume that the Equality Act isnt worth the paper its printed on...

Anyone with half a brain (so admittedly not a lot of people) knows what the AA mean here, but proving it is something else...

[–]DavidByron2 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

exactly. everyone winks at the discrimination.

[–]Ezekias1337 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've worked in a call center doing Roadside Assistance from Representative all the way up to Supervisor. I assure you that 90% of the time when a company says they are "prioritizing a case" there is actually nobody working on it.

They understaff on purpose and even if you are 100th in line we will lie on the phone and say your case is being worked on and that "we have all hands on deck to assist you as soon as possible".

[–]Rockbottom503 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, yeah, the whole point if contact centres is really just to raise issues and then fob people iff until they get round to being sorted.

[–]Clemicus 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a customer service type answer. It's a vague answer that will be interpreted as the right one

Edit: Another way of putting it: Your call is important to us

[–]DavidByron2 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it says women qualify as vulnerable by virtue of their sex but men do not

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

so the real question i think is, do we now pay less as we don’t get the same service?

i’ve had this argument at gyms with “women only” gym areas.. we pay the same and get less.

[–]IronSkywalker 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How does that argument go? Out of curiosity

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Generally a look of bemusement..

[–]heyyy-kiddo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do everyone a favor a file a gender discrimination claim for those areas.

Also don't got to such places.

Women get more stuff for the same $ so it can easily be argued it's discrimination.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being a man who has been attacked before (jumped by chavs at night), why is my safety not a concern? Why do Twitter feminists keep peddling the same old bullshit about women being these hapless victims who need urgent care at all times? Do men not feel fear when stranded in a dodgy neighbourhood?

Can't wait to hear about a man being mugged and\or killed because he wasn't quite as important as the woman stuck in the suburbs.

[–]Arguesovereverythin 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is easily solved. Call the company, tell them you identify as a woman and you are in a vulnerable situation. If the company does not prioritize you, sue them for discrimination.

Equality achieved!

Fucking dumb clown world policies call for fucking dumb tactics.

[–]DavidByron2 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

institutional discrimination - part of the definition of an apartheid system

[–]TextDependent6779 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Men were more likely to be victims of violent crime where the perpetrator was a stranger or acquaintance. However, women were more likely to be victims of domestic violence perpetrated by a partner or ex-partner, or other family member."

gov.uk

if anything we should be prioritising mens safety alone at night.

[–]andejoh 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So are they only going to send women out to service the women drivers or are male tow truck drivers the only men who can't rape a woman? Why would a "vulnerable" woman want man to come anyway?

[–]Donutninja1 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m not from the UK and don’t know what sort of company AA are, but if you’re a man in the UK, you can take a stand and vote with your wallet? If most men start (actually) canceling their membership that would send a clear message.

[–]BrokeMacMountain 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The AA stand for the Automobile Association. They are a road vehicle recovery and repair company. If your car breaks down, you call the AA, who come to your location and try to fix your car. id they can not fix it, they will tow it, and you to a garage. In some circumstances, they may also offer a safe place to stay.

Their competition in this field is the R.A.C. (Royal automobile club) and Greenflag. Both of which prioritise women over men, and charge lower fees. Sadly, there really is no where to take my money.

Perhaos someone should start a car recovery clubb for male only drivers. It could be in the style of uber, or just eats, where the drivers are technically independent, and come out to you in a van with a spare moped so y can still reach your destination, while your car is fixed.

[–]heyyy-kiddo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you need a car recovery club? If you have insurance you don't need them I think. In my country you get the insurance and just call the insuring company. They will give you the contact information for their subcontracting towing agent and what not.

About the restoration and repair you just walk in an authorised service shop that works with the insurance company(most work with all insurance companies).

If you adopt this model you can literally screw them out of their market.

[–]willbeonekenobi 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe if I do move up to the UK and sign up with AA then I'd ask for a reduced fee because I will know beforehand that I will never get the same level of service because I am a male.

[–]bfte2 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucking clowns. It's amazing how wymyn constantly cry about having "no power", and yet constantly get companies bent with simple Tweets.

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