why is male health in general still mocked and "tokenized" by society?

Agreeable-Raspberry5 · 2022-01-12T16:17:54+00:00

In one place I worked (2012-15) they advertised a women's health session and then said "There's also men's health because otherwise men feel left out." Not, like, that there might be male-specific health issues, like but not limited to certain male-specific cancers, a higher incidence of alcohol abuse, being less likely to seek medical health in the first place, etc, etc?

ExMuzzy · 2022-01-12T17:33:11+00:00

The few times I’ve been to the doctor this year, my concerns weren’t taken seriously and I felt like I was wasting their time. I don’t know if it’s because of my gender but honestly, in future I’m more likely to just wait out any health concerns I have and hope it doesn’t get serious. I’m in the UK by the way and my wife gets good care from her GP.

Men’s suicide rates are blamed on men for not getting help but in reality it’s because mental health therapists don’t know how to deal with men. Men do get help but still end up killing themselves. I had to do a psychology module in uni and I remember a lot of discussion about feminism so I think a lot of the people who end up in these fields have feminist beliefs like patriarchy and whatnot. Not surprising men don’t find them helpful.

RockmanXX · 2022-01-12T14:07:21+00:00

What can we do then to combat the disparity of promotion between men and women's health?

By being the change we want to see in Society, start looking out for the Men in your family&friends circle.

GavRhino · 2022-01-13T05:13:08+00:00

And the phrase ‘fragile masculinity’. We’re often encouraged, by women, to open up about our emotions more; yet when we do they mock us for ‘fragile masculinity’. I thought they were trying to encourage men that there’s nothing wrong with being fragile, but many of them seem to have a very short-term memory.

I’m so so grateful that the women in my life aren’t like this (and most women aren’t, as much as social media can make it feel otherwise). My sister’s very hardcore interested in her activism but even she thinks a lot of the feminists narratives are complete bull crap. And my mother and my grandmother have just been so supportive- I’m glad I don’t have any rad-fem wackjobs in my family.

hottake_toothache · 2022-01-12T14:20:09+00:00

Men are disposable.

AdamChap · 2022-01-12T12:58:04+00:00

A man who cares about his own health is a man who wont sacrifice himself in war for others.

Men individually don't care for their health and society doesn't care for men's health.

Men do what women want. Women aren't attracted to men who care more about their own health than their partners. They want you to get up in the middle of the night and fight off the attackers. They are okay with the idea of you 'dying in battle' and are predisposed to be better at dealing with loosing a partner that way.

Although I will say

Any man trying to be ''health concious" is immediately seen as feminine

What so going to a gym or working out in general is feminine? I get maybe men dieting, or vegans being seen as feminine but maybe you are confusing being 'health conscious' for being a 'hypochondriac' or being neurotic in general.

Yes, in my opinion it's weird for men to be going to the doctors a lot, taking pills or supplements, having a skin care routine or something like that. Superficial health...

BloomingBrains · 2022-01-13T21:09:41+00:00

As long being unhygienic is considered "manly" (and therefore, attractive to women), I don't think much will change unless men collectively put their foot down and decide not to let sexual selection dictate their lives. Women who do want a hygenic man will also need to put their foot down as well and refuse to put up with it just because the guy is athletic, rich, etc.

The other part of the problem though is that there may genuinely be a lot of guys that aren't just being unhygenic out of a desire to seem manly, but just because its a natural behavior for them. It may seem misandrist to say that, but I think this sub has a much higher cross-section of men who aren't "traditionally masculine" than general society.

People of both genders have made fun of me throughout my life for being what they say as too fastidious and clean as a boy. Even for really simple things like showering every day, putting lotion on my skin when its dry, combing my hair, etc. So I'll just go ahead and put this on the same shelf as other toxic male gender expectations like not being able to express emotion, etc.

Title	why is male health in general still mocked and "tokenized" by society?
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Date	January 12, 2022 10:24 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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