Seduction is the worse/harmful sub out there

jackedsoon · 2023-07-19T23:42:11+00:00

I feel bad for the guys on there. Theyre spending hours everyday reading and learning how to attract women through reddit posts, videos, books etc. If you have to study 'seduction', it has never began.

Game is looks.

BufferG108 · 2023-07-19T23:35:48+00:00

Well, it's Blackpill or Bust. Only The Blackpill can protect both the security of men and the dignity of women.

NotARussianBot1984 · 2023-07-19T22:46:35+00:00

Ya, looking back on my 300+ failed approaches, I actually feel a bit sorry for.the girls.

No one told me it was pointless cold approaching as a short guy. TRP told me to. What a waste of time.

I'd rather have spent it studying or doing overtime or going to the gym with friends.

Thankfully TikTok girls have told me how fruitless my efforts were with honesty they never have in person

DouglasHadtoPoop · 2023-07-19T22:01:45+00:00

It's a very cringey subreddit. Gives ugly men false hope and encourages them to approach women who don't want to be approached by ugly men. Following their advice is a great way to get slapped or have the police called on you.

The stories there of guys having success with pickup artist techniques are fake. It's yet another subreddit full of incels who are still living in denial (and grifters who prey on them).

RatDontPanic · 2023-07-19T22:10:00+00:00

Seduction as a concept is for clowns and organ grinder monkeys.

Affinity4186 · 2023-07-19T21:03:18+00:00

Just be confident bro in subreddit format.

Chad_Thundercock717 · 2023-07-20T14:32:51+00:00

Every PUA guru is good looking. The things they swear work might work great for them, but it won't work for regular guys. James Matador (Stan Tayi) always sticks out to me. Indian guy. Computer Science graduate. But, you wouldn't know it looking at him. I thought he was Hispanic forever.

https://www.datingskillsreview.com/james-matador-stan-tayi/

Guys have failed to adapt to the times. Cold approaches, like they see on TV, won't work anymore. Goofy lines, opinion openers, stuttering out your name and saying you thought she was cute...... that time is gone. You can't put that kind of pressure on a woman. She HAS to trust you for anything to happen. A casual "How's it going?" standing next to her at the bar works better than a line. Have a reason to talk to her if in public. Ask for directions, restaurant suggestions, how to pick fruit if at the grocery store. Then start a dialog. Her friends have to trust you. If I'm at a bar, I interact with all the surrounding tables. Include them in conversations, include the wallflowers. Women make the best wingmen.

modidlee · 2023-07-19T23:26:54+00:00

I’m on there. I’d never tell an unattractive guy to harass women in public. I tell guys to know their level of attractiveness and be able to read how attractive a woman finds you. Only approach women that find you attractive. In fact, it’s better to let her approach you first. Being good looking and tall is a plus, but it can’t make up for a trash personality or conversational skills. I’ve literally had women choose me over taller guys because they felt more chemistry with me and felt I was more interesting. If a woman is disinterested I wouldn’t waste minute on her. Like I said earlier, it’s best to pursue women that are actually attracted enough to approach you first. Online dating isn’t a cowards way. But no matter how attractive you make yourself on a dating profile, what really matters is how you make that woman feel when you’re face to face in the same space with each other. You can create the perfect online profile and get matches, then when she meets you you’re a lame. Game over. It’s better to approach women irl and impress them right there on the spot.

ROBYoutube · 2023-07-19T21:19:54+00:00

The main difference between here and there is the relation to reality. Dudes report behaving in really shitty ways over on that board, but because it actually happened in real life, when I tell him what a complete fucking idiot he is and how embarrassed he should be, it gets massively upvoted.

Because very little here exists outside of the heads of extremely anti-social shut ins who like to imagine mistreatment to justify their lazy social decisions, any attempt I make to bring reality into the equation is not met with similar fanfare.

That said, here is way, way funner.

No-Vermicelli1103 · 2023-07-23T02:33:51+00:00

This is the biggest cap cold approaching is good and u don’t need to be Michael b Jordan to do it and u don’t need to read a bunch of books to ask a girl for their number and dating apps are definitely a cowards way and should be a last resort

Drougen · 2023-07-19T21:12:32+00:00

Cold approach 100% makes sense, though.

I was in a bar and cold approached the most attractive women I could find, it worked. We flirted all night, I even forgot to get her number but had given her my card earlier. She called me 15 minutes after we all left the bar.

TetsuoTamayaka · 2023-07-20T12:46:17+00:00

Nah, it’s a decent sub. Recently it became more aware that looks is extremely important, and that you can’t seduce your way into being liked. They acknowledge that you have to be decent looking but numbers game matter too, and a average guy has more chance of sleeping with someone if he approaches 100 girls over if he approaches 2.

Capable_Pudding8061 · 2023-07-20T22:49:27+00:00

Seduction/Game is basically jestermaxxing for a girl in hopes of convicing/secucing/manipulating her into liking you. You're not even being yourself, it's just an act to aqquire it by talking and body language.

Only genuine sexual desire comes from looks. No other way around it. You just exist and say whatever. boom, job done. I definitely don't envy men who try the PUA route, it's undignified and feels like you're a dog looking for a treat.

Not saying it doesn't happen if you're at least a 4-5 in looks with even average to below average height, but that sort of method only helps in attracting drunk girls from the club for a one night stand, and when she's sober, she just regrets the encounter or just forgets is ever happened. Not like she would be wife material lol but you will be just that regret.

People already have an opinion about your attractivenes faster than a blink of an eye. Far less than a second, but let's assume girls stare at you and form an opinion in 10 seconds. In those 10 seconds she already knows if she would want to sleep with you or she's concluded your genetics are not it and she forgets you. I think it's very hard to attract someone with your personality, social skills and money. It might happen if you meet a certain looks threshold. Too ugly and it doesn't even matter, you can be the most charismatic fun guy who is rich, she would just be with you for the money.

All in all, from the instant girls know if they would be with a guy or not. You can't negotiate attraction. If you're lean, have some muscles so not skinny and you're hygenic, and they still don't want you, sorry but i doubt further looksmaxxing would help. All those minor improvements like making your hair look a certain way, clothes etc. won't ammount to much. So just get lean and slightly muscular with a six pack, probably upload something on instagram, message some girls. If there is no response, It's over for your chances of sexually attracting them. That's the harsh reality.

Title	Seduction is the worse/harmful sub out there
Author	No_South_2556
Upvotes	28
Comments	34
Date	July 19, 2023 8:59 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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