Are women just more hostile to ugly men especially if these men are not even pursuing them.

Zadacat · 2023-09-10T11:29:32+00:00

I think you would be nice because you experience it yourself. Sadly that is just how the human mind works, ugly = bad

Hubris1998 · 2023-09-10T11:51:42+00:00

A lot of them would be openly racist if it suddenly became socially acceptable. Empathetic my arse.

G0dZylla · 2023-09-10T12:41:53+00:00

Not only women, everyone Is Biased to treat ugly people worse and attractive people Better, it's halo effect. We attribuite positive qualities to attractive people and negative qualities to unnatractive people, so when women see you their brain automatically thinks you have bad qualities even though as you said you are a respectful Person , It is most of the time a subconcious behaviour

Southern_Fall983 · 2023-09-10T15:40:10+00:00

Women gaslighters would call it “thirst” but it’s not, men are just more forgiving to ugly women than the other way around, doesn’t matter if there’s any other attraction involved

Relative_Editor_2179 · 2023-09-10T11:32:28+00:00

Females blame all bad things on ugly men, even the things that Chads do.

hydro9889 · 2023-09-10T15:47:00+00:00

When i was in school i use to get bullied by a few women even though i was literally a quite recluse and didnt really make myself known. It was because i was a low status outcast but the reason i was a low status outcast WAS because i had race failo (curry) and sub5 face failo.

ItoshiSae10 · 2023-09-10T12:14:40+00:00

Happens after they get rejected by a good guy as well

Dapper_Level2915 · 2023-09-10T15:41:31+00:00

Are women just more hostile to ugly men especially if these men are not even pursuing them.

yes. many of them are, but not all of them.

back when I was short and infant looking, was outside talking with friends on a hot summer day and some older girls we knew walked past us. one of them said "eew" while stopping to look at me (the shortest guy in the group) and made a face like she'd never seen anything more disgusting. but her friends didn't laugh and one of them even gave her a dirty look like she shouldn't have said that.

SilentCardiologistXX · 2023-09-10T12:42:23+00:00

Talking to ugly or lower attractiveness male lowers her value.

People observing interaction, may infer you guys are doing something together (or have some fling romance)

Women don't want others to make that connection.

Crafty-Interest1336 · 2023-09-10T13:16:02+00:00

People trying to say ugly women are treated poorly are literally ignoring reality. There are not enough ugly women for it to be normal most women are rated as average to attractive. And then ugly women use make-up so those sub 4s are now into the average world

Then we have the sisterhood Vs men. Women will support eachother but men don't go to any high calorie woman's insta and they're giving her false support men don't receive anything like that

mewbestpokeman · 2023-09-10T17:46:15+00:00

When a w*man gets rejected by an attractive guy, she becomes hostile towards unattractive guys.

MistyMaisel · 2023-09-10T13:31:32+00:00

I mean without more context, my assumption is those are a bunch of crappy women.

I worked retail for about three years and everyone was thick as thieves no matter how anyone looked. I treated the ugly dudes the same as the hot ones. Work was horrid, may as well try to make some bright spots for each other.

Welllarmedhippie · 2023-09-10T16:18:32+00:00

People are not in a good mood at work. I think I can count maybe five people that I've worked with who were nice. You can't take it personally.

ImOverIt06 · 2023-09-10T16:35:36+00:00

It's a double social bias against ugly people and men.

People usually assume ugly people have worse personalities and shit like that its easy to find this info in pub med search but I'm too lazy right now.

But yeah. And society both men and women have bias against men just naturally for some reason, probably because we've evolved to value women over men , something something eggs.

So it's built in to the system. When the aliens come they will say "Give us your eggs", and men will be expected to fight and die for them it's as simple as that.

philseven12 · 2023-09-10T23:34:05+00:00

In general women see regular and ugly men as opps

Nihi1986 · 2023-09-10T23:53:30+00:00

Society didn't condition women to be particularly nice to ugly or average men. Men are told to treat women well, and to be particularly empathetic with less attractive but still emotionally vulnerable women...

We could also get into a 'redpilled' discussion about instinctual behavior, attraction, evolution...but that's not necessary, it's enough by knowing what happens to a man who hits another man and a man who hits a woman (not saying we should be allowed to beat them, just providing a extreme example here).

infinitofluxo · 2023-09-11T04:10:34+00:00

In a work place, women may suspect colleagues are approaching to try to get into their pants. Hostility is a way to preemptively tell them they are not liked. It makes sense that they may learn to be clearer when they see the man everyday, as a stranger in the wild is easier to refuse in a gentler way, even though some will use any opportunity to mistreat a man they don't find attractive.

Some women are sweet and try to be gentle to any person and they usually complain that guys misread them, as we are used to mistreatment and any niceness might look like we have got a shot there. And obviously some do it on purpose to farm orbiters as they are narcissists and learned quickly how to fool men.

The bullshit in all of this is the fact that when they are being nice it can be for a bad reason, like they want the guy cause he has higher status/is a Chad or they are farming orbiters. Niceness should be common ground for everyone and betas should not be induced to misread it by the frequent mistreatment.

kukkle1111 · 2023-09-11T16:05:41+00:00

think guys are more friendlier to not so good looking girls than other way around too.

I’ve seen it firsthand. Unattractive male co-workers are treated with complete, frozen, frigid indifference. If they even DARE try to speak or initiate verbal communication with a female co-worker, that’s when you see the venom.

The response is boiling with aggression, the eyes roll as soon it’s over, and often they’ll release a loud, exasperated ANYWAY! when they return to talking to their girlfriends, as if the short interaction with a non-Chad just sucked the living essence out of her body.

DarkAdmirable653 · 2023-09-10T13:17:00+00:00

They are more emotionally abusive, men are more physically abusive; more blunt and open and unabashed.

Women will be abusive and then lie & gaslight you that they weren't.

TommySildon91 · 2023-09-10T14:30:49+00:00

Random ugly/beautiful women being hostille to ugly men should be a crime punishablile by law. This is so simple but the corrupt government doesn't want to change

uselessloner123 · 2023-09-10T13:20:20+00:00

Yeah as an ugly short man I can relate. Usually only really tall women treat me nice. Maybe they feel insecure about height as well

RopeorDope1 · 2023-09-10T11:18:58+00:00

Different people follow different rules. This is true for both groups.

There are guys that will treat attractive women much better and hate or ignore other women.

There are also women who will do the same.

There's also people of both groups that won't do that. For your coworkers, you know them best, but it could be for a variety of reasons why some are uninterested and others may be snappy.

EugeneCezanne · 2023-09-10T20:36:13+00:00

To some extent, probably, especially among young people. Coworkers are especially tricky—socializing can be a perk, but it isn't the reason you're all there. And it's not like you get to choose them.

Title	Are women just more hostile to ugly men especially if these men are not even pursuing them.
Author	SheepyTLDR
Upvotes	47
Comments	57
Date	September 10, 2023 11:12 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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