Why do we, as men, always have to be the strong ones?

mr_ogyny · 2023-11-24T22:43:46+00:00

Most women still want men to be traditional, regardless of whether or not they are themselves. It's pretty shitty that men are expected to emotionally support their partners and not have it reciprocated.

Perhaps it's transactional, I don't give a shit but I've stopped putting effort into people if I know they won't do the same.

Spins13 · 2023-11-24T23:59:11+00:00

It’s always been like that. The difference is that today, instead of respecting men, people sht on them like ungrateful children who have been fed with silver spoons for too long

EfficientSimplicity · 2023-11-25T06:31:37+00:00

Here are things I learned: - Women have successfully feminized society for the last 20-40 years - Part of feminization of men is to get them to be vulnerable - Women generally want men to be “vulnerable” with them for psyops purposes - once you know someone’s weaknesses, you know where and how to push their buttons - Women did not realize they are unattracted to feminine men - Men used to share their feelings with other men who would help them productively channel their emotions into something good - rather than destructive

All that to say, women never wanted you to be weak to them

Frird2008 · 2023-11-25T00:57:55+00:00

UNDENIABLE CORE TRUTH OF OUR WORLD: We see more of what's rewarded & less of what's punished.

It's this way by design.

If men were happy, society wouldn't function nearly as well as it does now.

A society which relies on half its populace feeling insecure about their ability to provide for its continued, beholden-on-something-else success, is a society that is destined to fail in the first place.

Illustrious_Bus9486 · 2023-11-24T22:17:59+00:00

Decompress with your male friends like men have always done.

RaptorRed04 · 2023-11-25T05:48:55+00:00

Speaking specifically to your comments about therapy, it can be incredibly useful, especially to men.

It’s frustrating if you can’t find the support you need from friends and family, but reaching out to a therapist doesn’t make you weak or a ‘cuck’, and has several advantages. It’s helpful to have an objective third party weigh in on your troubles and give you impartial advice. It allows you to unburden yourself on someone without saddling them with the same problems. And finally a good therapist will help you build the tools you need to handle these frustrations in a way that is most beneficial and productive. More tools in your kit, especially as a man, is a good thing, and these can be used to express your frustrations with your family and friends on your terms.

It’s a tough world out there for men, but very little of it is in our immediate control, and what is in our control will likely take time and effort to change. Therapy can give you the tools to make that change and keep you sane in the meantime.

papo4ever · 2023-11-25T01:05:44+00:00

Because we are quite strong.

You don't have any idea how weak women, children and old people are.

Think of the weakest ass 30 year old soy ally millennial, he's still 5 times stronger and can endure 10 times worse conditions than basically any women or children.

AmmaronsRepository · 2023-11-25T13:48:15+00:00

Now that women have figured out that their lawyer can beat you up, you aren't strong. Your a resource.

Witness what an entire demographic defined by chaos and irresponsibility can do when they rule the world.

**boom** and we start over with strong men, faithful women, and no lawyers.

LealD7 · 2023-11-25T04:11:01+00:00

Well, think about the alternative to that...no thank you, I rather keep working on myself and providing for my family.

Do this with a sense of responsibility and it will make you feel proud. Also, don't do it for anyone, I do it for my kids and my wife, and honestly for myself too. I could not stand becoming a week, non resilient, soft version of me. I just can't. I rather deal with how tuff and lonely this can be sometimes than to deal with beeing weak (at my own perspective).

theSilentNerd · 2023-11-25T03:15:31+00:00

I'm not sure if it is applicable to younger men,.but I was raised in the 90s.
We had to be strong and fight against our bullies, generally with our fists.

rainbowkombat · 2023-11-24T23:58:51+00:00

for my part i am fictosexual and i am a soulbounder so i talk with my waifus to get support and they support me you can learn more about soulbounding here: https://www.reddit.com/r/plural/comments/x61nv6/can\_someone\_please\_explain\_what\_a\_soul\_bond\_is\_to/

Aromatic_Ad5473 · 2023-11-25T02:33:17+00:00

Friends? Partner?

Sendmeloveletters · 2023-11-25T12:32:39+00:00

Because we are men. Don’t be weak.

Southern_Big_3029 · 2023-11-25T05:01:17+00:00

Looking back, it's largely because of men. In the past, society was predominantly governed by men, and women had limited opportunities to voice their opinions. It was men who made the laws, defined what was right or wrong, and in today's harsh reality, if men often feel compelled to appear very strong, it's due to the actions of men from the past and their ideologies.

Asleep-Fee-9618 · 2023-11-25T06:10:47+00:00

Because you guys have told each other that and tell women you don’t want to sink down to their level by being emotional.

HeatScissors003 · 2023-11-24T22:13:19+00:00

Because women watch too much cartoons nowadays.

Gwuana · 2023-11-25T05:56:27+00:00

I for one prefer it this way! The world needs men to be tough because life is hard and someone has to shoulder the burden. I wouldn’t ever want to trade places and be a woman. I feel quite lucky that I was the sperm who won the race to to egg! Also something you might look into is a martial arts gym like BJJ or Muy Thai, you get male friends who are usually going through something similar.

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decixl · 2023-11-25T07:27:53+00:00

These are tough times brother. We're transitioning from the conqueror brute to the modern man. Individuals progress much faster than the community and it's because of this you suffer. I refuse to be brute, I want to be the creator with high morals and ethics. Society will judge you for "being a pu**y", women will resent you for not being brute or spineless, begging slob but you stay true to yourself and be what you want to be.

Minimum_Direction_43 · 2023-11-25T07:48:17+00:00

You need other men to talk to. Try looking for men's groups in your area or if you are of a certain religion lots of churches have men's groups. Everything you are feeling is legitimate and many of us deal with the same.

kuzism · 2023-11-25T13:18:02+00:00

There are tons of single alfa females out there that would love to be in a controlling relationship with you. You can be a stay at home dad while she goes out and earns. You don't have to be strong, most of these alfa females are going to be aggressive, loud and weigh more than you and if you get them when they turn 30 they are desperate because their biological clocks are running out and they will settle for anything they can get. Everything has changed, so you can relax and let her be strong for you. Women made the world this way and men just have to adapt.

JimmyFett · 2023-11-25T17:10:18+00:00

Honestly, do something physical. I swear that's why men play golf.

Go to the weight room at the gym. Less women and more interaction. Straight up ask someone where to start. Gym bros can still be bros aren't always toxic.

Disk golf is also a possibility. Inexpensive to start and a good way to get out.

Get on Meetup and find a city cleanup group.

You need dudes in your life to talk to and the goal isn't to completely avoid women. If women show up to these places they have as much right to be there as you but you'll at least have one thing in common with them and they shouldn't be antagonistic unless you paint with broad strokes.

Theo446_Z · 2023-11-25T17:43:45+00:00

I think therapist are useless! Yes, we as men must be the strong ones. But we are not ment to be alone. Living in a comunity with other strong men that will support you in your weakest moments, so you support them back when they need it. That's what friendship is meant to be. You don't need a therapist if you have friends you can trust to.

Title	Why do we, as men, always have to be the strong ones?
Author	Kreia-
Upvotes	115
Comments	71
Date	November 24, 2023 10:03 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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