Low income men are hated in current society, is there a word for it?

Realistic_W8974 · 2024-02-02T04:49:48+00:00

They were also hated in previous society, and there was no word for it save by a few worker unions.

GAMESnotVIOLENT · 2024-02-02T09:37:59+00:00

I'd call it "Gendered Classism." It fits the description well. It also allows you initially disarm a lot of "progressive" feminists who are conditioned to bark and clap like seals at the mere mention of either individual word. They'll be initially receptive to an explanation, allowing you to get your foot in the door and expose them to the information without them preemptively tuning you out.

Mysterious-Leg5997 · 2024-02-02T05:09:17+00:00

This is the truth. I don't "struggle" with money but rather I work less in order to spend time with my wonderful 2 kids and to be able to do all the hobbies I love. I live for today. That being said I make a decent living doing what I do but I am also a minimalist and drive an old car (have 4 old cars) and fix them myself and own them outright. This is what makes me happy.

That being said most women I have dated make the assumption that I don't make a lot of money because of the car I drive. But honestly those are the women I don't want to attract anyhow. Gold diggers. Most women pair themselves with specific men because they want a certain lifestyle. Most women want something in monetary or physical value from me. I am only interested in true companionship.

avtarius · 2024-02-02T10:06:14+00:00

Gynocentrism is the current fad term

Extreme_Spread9636 · 2024-02-02T14:56:29+00:00

It's strange that it is automatically assumed that a man has to work? It's great that I can provide for myself, but assuming that two people get into a relationship, why should my money automatically be a part of the relationship?

ThePureFool · 2024-02-02T04:27:25+00:00

Traditionally in western society there have always been non-earning men.
These would have ended up. in the Church or as monks leading a devotional life.

IronJohnMRA · 2024-02-02T12:51:26+00:00

Misandry.

ruinleon · 2024-02-02T15:15:28+00:00

Clipping from a sexist blog

Lack of financial security- A woman wants to feel secured in finances. While she may truly love a guy, she wants to be sure that he’s capable of taking care of not just her present needs but any emergencies that may arise. She doesn’t want to lack the basic things in life especially when there are guys out there who can give her those things.

Basically women are always projecting they aren't talking about any real emergencies they are talking about doing exotic purchases that they force you to do because it's her emergency example one my dad's new chick who is only common law at this point just made him drop 17,000 dollars into a kitchen because it was her emergency and she wanted to " feel comfortable cooking in her own enviorment" even though she's a doctor and owns 3 homes but shares it with the parents cultural thing of theirs. she’ll have to “manage” most of the time, and managing is a thing most women detest. Why manage when you can have more?

She states that women shouldn't have to give up more materialism more items more me but not a sentence earlier Wanting financial security is far from gold-digging. A broke guy can barely take care of himself let alone someone else.

The reality is she blatantly is telling girls to gold dig because why should they have to lower their eyes off the 10% of earners who rail through them? Why should they take anyone other then the hunk with lots of cash who have a high body count and are confident for said reasons.

My personal pet peeve of this is I still felt like I was being absolutely used for the money and the good looks and way over her league because they are allowed to "date up" on a scale of 10 she was a 4 not only in looks but in personality which was disgusting in my personal experience. Not only was I earning 5x more still but it barely was enough to even satisfy the bottom of the barrel.

No romance

As the popular saying goes: “There’s no romance without finance.” When two adults come together to have a relationship, it takes more than love for them to have a good time. Even the greatest of love stands the chance of fading away without romance to keep the fire burning.

Basically again doubling down on If your man can't be a wallet leave him. It takes more then love again insinuates the original female writers others absolute lust for cash disguised as the usual " he must be a provider mentality" which has simply become coded language for he's gotta be rich. Sure it may sound innocent at first like he only has to do the work of a 1950s husband but it's no longer a single income economy one job doesn't provide everything I need in order to have proper savings.

When a guy is loaded, he’s better equipped to be romantic. He could take her on vacation, give her surprise presents and sweep her off her feet by performing a romantic magic that only money can afford.

Again it has nothing to do about the basic needs of what most men can provide for happiness its over the top extravagance that is craved by these women even the basic cheap surprise gifts of flowers which are relatively cheap are discarded for more materialistic things like jewelery hence women make up 60% of the cosmetics market and they specifically use the cosmetics for courting purposes.

When the inevitable challenges in relationships come up and she begins to have doubts about being with him, he could reset her brain by splashing money around in his romantic antics.

Not only after you've Basically got her flowers and done all the above it won't actually be enough in the end you have to continue this dance of affection of wealth every time she has self doubts even if she never tells you about them personally "reset her brain" only implying that money is again the only thing that will tend her woes nothing that again men usually actually bring to the table like actual security it's just wealth that provides said security.

He’s so predictable

Dating a broke guy is like a routine chore – it can be boring to the point of choking you to death. It’s the same thing every day. You can tell what he’s up to because he doesn’t have the resources to do otherwise.

Not only will she not support you in figuring out ways to improve your net worth even when she's a low value women herself but she will blame it on you for not having the nesscary resources in your life to lift yourself by your bootstraps when she has as much ability to be supportive instead she will mock you for not already being ahead.

At first, she could try to get along with it in the name of love, but after a while, it becomes unbearable. Being broke limits a guy’s performance in a relationship. Even when he has all the creative ideas to spice up the relationship, there isn’t much he can do because his bank account is nothing to write home about.

Again she doesn't care about actually being by your side or helping raise you into a proper man with career as that's not her job and yet every mother I've ever known has taught quickly that men aren't worth anything unless they work and do as I say or the common stereotype I hear happy life happy wife and after nearly 50 years of claiming we're gonna make equals when the roles that we share in masculine versus feminine lifestyles are not equal as we bare all the responsibility of what happens to the feminine side of society even if we ourselves didn't do it only to be harassed online by gold diggers who litterally stalk men's internet pages and collect as much data as the fbi when doing an investigation to see if there a good fit and frankly I've ran into enough.women that will background check you before dating you that you.as a male wondering if your not doing enough to defend yourself like digging into her possible criminal history..

Vaudeville_Clown · 2024-02-02T15:41:57+00:00

I can think of reasons at least. Women as a class depend much much more on tax funded programmes, or have public sector jobs and thus their salary from the state.

A man being poor might have to reach out to social services or whatnot, and have a slice of that cake (a small one mind; just to get by for now).

Most suggestions I've seen at starting publically funded programmes for men, be it poverty or mental health, it's all been shouted down by raging women.

I think I'm correct in the assumption that most women don't want welfare state functions to even go to men past a certain age.

They generally feel entitled to all of it.

hendrixski · 2024-02-02T16:24:09+00:00

"Misandry aimed at the the intersectionality of male gender and low class".

Sounds fancy, eh?

GlaucusTheCuredOne · 2024-02-02T06:48:55+00:00

I looked up some options.

πτωχός = ptōkhós = ptoˈxos = toe hous = tohos (heads up, unsecured link)

Mistohos or Misptohos with a silent P, Miso = hatred of. ptohos = poor man or beggar = either in a good way or bad, for example ancient philosopher diogenes was a good poor man who was hated for being poor and low status by some, and loved for his wisdom by others.

Or tohosphoba or ptohosphobia, tohos = poor man. Phobia = fear of.

There is aporophobia for fear of poor people, this was made up to explain why people like rich immigrants and hate poor immigrants.

There is Misandry, for the hated of men.

Adding these two together is too long. I like Mistohous similar to Misandrous.

The specific fear of poor men though is also a unique phenomena we see ALL the time. Refusing to build homeless shelters for men. I look at places like California, and I am grateful that there is a movement specifically to accept poor homeless beggar men.

They intentionally push back againt Tohosphiba.

kochIndustriesRussia · 2024-02-02T11:52:53+00:00

Aporophobia.... hatred/fear of the poor.... not specifically men tho.

Low_Breakfast3669 · 2024-02-02T22:10:09+00:00

'Hated' is to strong a word IMO. Dismissed, sidelined, ignored, I think is more fitting.

But honestly where is the line?

How much income is "reasonable" for a girl to expect a man to make in order to date him?

PFCthrowAwayMTL · 2024-02-03T02:03:55+00:00

Its not how much you make… lots of women just want to not have to work. They have female privilege.

Title	Low income men are hated in current society, is there a word for it?
Author	Grand-Scientist-1667
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Date	February 2, 2024 2:09 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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