Male suicide rate has jumped in the UK

Krackerlack · 2024-02-25T11:04:13+00:00

as long as the men work and don't complain that much, society doesn't give a flying fuck

Spins13 · 2024-02-25T10:44:50+00:00

Sadly this is unsurprising when I look at news and laws from the UK in the past few years

thapussypatrol · 2024-02-25T11:59:02+00:00

Of course women are always the primary victim in male suicides, you understand?

WinTheDell · 2024-02-25T13:41:15+00:00

I think we need to step away from this “it’s ok to talk” narrative around male suicide, like emotional stoicism and lacking emotional intelligence are the main reason for male suicide. 100% talking and seeking help are important, but a majority of men who kill themselves have actually spoken and have sought help, and such a message can be isolating.

I remember the CEO of CALM saying “the answer is simple: Talk about it” and I lost all respect for the (feminist-run) organisation. The answer is actually very complicated and pretending it is not is just going to make things worse.

There’s a higher rate of suicide today than there was after both world wars. Were men really more emotionally intelligent then? There was more male companionship and male spaces, but therapy and open conversations are a band-aid for these things, not a replacement.

I’ve lost someone to suicide, and they were a therapist! People in my men’s community have lost people who would call them whenever they were feeling low; they still lost the battle. Talking isn’t a magic bullet, as we clearly aren’t listening to people suffering suicidal thoughts.

We actually need to accept that something is being done to men, and we cannot just shift the blame onto them for “not talking enough”.

Inevitable_Dark3225 · 2024-02-25T11:50:44+00:00

Yeah, but women get paid less than men , so we should focus on that more. Who cares if silly men die more? That's their role.

I'm being sarcastic by the way...

Clemicus · 2024-02-25T11:39:25+00:00

OP you need to post more context. The percentages you posted are not a recent thing. The 60% figure may be from as far back as 60 years ago.

Men making up 75% of suicides isn’t a new development. Also it’s as high as 80%. I don’t recall if that was Northern Ireland or Wales.

Not sure if it’s connected. There was a number of articles about five years ago about how bad that figure is. Not sure if some were calling for an enquiry in to the causes but it was definitely to raise attention to it.

RoryTate · 2024-02-25T14:51:37+00:00

It's ok to talk and we must all be ready to listen.

Research exists showing that the majority of men do seek help for mental health issues, so you don't have to resort to unreliable anecdotes if you don't want to. For example, the results of a UK study. In the section about "Contact with services" for men who had committed suicide:

91% middle-aged men had been in contact with at least one service or agency at some time.

Most importantly, in the paper's conclusion, during the key messages section on page 30, they say the following:

Rates of contact with services among middle-aged men were higher than expected; almost all had been in contact with a front-line service or agency at some time. It is therefore too simplistic to say that men do not seek help.

So we have an actual scientific study, done recently (it came out in 2021), using data from over 1500 male suicides, and it specifically concludes that the "men do not seek help" narrative is simplistic and incorrect, based entirely on the evidence found. Yet, frustratingly, we still continue to see this urban myth about "men suffering in silence" parroted everywhere, from individual media figures (politicians, athletes, actors, etc) to large medical institutions like the APA. I wish that the general public could experience just a tiny amount of the anger I feel whenever I see what is rightly termed "harmful medical misinformation" being propagated so widely without pushback.

BadmonTG23 · 2024-02-25T13:06:05+00:00

It’s going to get worse

Nearby_Appearance289 · 2024-02-25T12:22:17+00:00

Shit I've been feeling certain ways for a while now. I'm slowly improving so no need to send the help link to me. But I now have another reason to not do anything to my self as I refuse to be another statistic for this. I'm not a number.

And I hope lads here in the UK get the help they need and don't bottle it up.

Electronic-Quail4464 · 2024-02-25T20:38:54+00:00

Men need to opt out of marriage and start having better interpersonal relationships with other men. Women, especially UK women, do not care about men. Not their ups, not their downs.

Be single, enjoy your life doing what you want to do, find a few guy friends to hang out with sometimes. Shoot some guns, go camping, explore the world.

Embrace the freedom of being single.

2024-02-25T20:56:14+00:00

Almost every legitimate discussion I have about male suicide is trolled by a bunch of women saying that they attempt it more. Men use more lethal means, which is why the attempts are less. It's not a cry for help when men are doing it. They legitimately want to end their lives.

Past_Study_4913 · 2024-02-25T17:04:30+00:00

Telling someone who's suicidal to " talk " and come " cry " isn't helping. Anything. I've no idea what the solution is, but it sure as shit isn't talking to some random twat

Gold_Hawk · 2024-02-25T17:21:40+00:00

Yeah talk and nobody fucking listens. Go doctors get pills no proper help. Oh you wanted to end it we'll give you some sign of giving a shit until we discharge you from crisis then back to suffering alone. Oh when you're on edge ring 111 and press 2 that will do instead of proper help.

Jiggly_Love · 2024-02-25T17:51:36+00:00

MSM would suggest that female suicide rates have increased from 24% to an astounding 25%!!!

NeoNotNeo · 2024-02-25T17:26:47+00:00

I blame the patriarchy

Title	Male suicide rate has jumped in the UK
Author	Shadowslip99
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Date	February 25, 2024 10:13 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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