How social proof evaporates with age

DrakeSaint · 2014-03-15T13:46:44+00:00

The problem is exactly because you're lone wolfing. There are young, single people out there who would love to have someone a little older to guide them on some stuff. Don't think that being alpha means to be alone. On the contrary: if you have enough influence, people will WANT to stay around you.

Those people getting married? Let them find the truth the hard way. It's slower, but a lot more probable to happen. Once they find out that the blue pill isn't going to take them anywhere, if they are really smart, and want to think out of the society's entrapping box, they'll swallow TRP. And guess who is the first guy they'll remember? You, motherfucker.

__ROOSTER__ · 2014-03-15T17:00:03+00:00

Considering that at 48 I have four GFs all under 30, I'd say your fears are completely unfounded.

It only gets easier and easier.

theredpill101 · 2014-03-15T18:24:53+00:00

Remember that you won't be the only one going through these changes.

Women get married and settle down too, leaving their single friends out in the cold. These women may find another group of friends to go out/hang around with, but those relationships won't be the same as the relationship she used to have with her now-married best friend. Not to mention she'll be feeling the strain to settle down as she gets closer to 30.

Men are leaders. That's the fact here. As a 29 year old, you can go to the bar by yourself to have a drink and look like a hard-working guy looking to relax, as opposed to a 23 year old drinking at the bar, who just looks lonely. Being comfortable/confident enough to go out by yourself speaks volumes.

As another guy in your position, many of my friends are married/engaged. Unfortunately, many of them always live a good distance from me. We don't go out.
I had to shift my game from looking to pick up girls at clubs/bars to meeting them out in the world and arranging one-on-one dates.

For me, I'd say my success rate when I was younger and into the club scene was low. I could get girls to talk to me, I could get them to dance, I could get numbers. But when it came time to leave, they were going with their friends (you always have that mother hen who's like "we came together, we're leaving together!"). If I can get a girl out to coffee though, if she accepts that invitation, my chances are exponentially higher.

Point is - I'm not wandering around with a pack of other guys trying to find women. I'm just a well-dressed, well-groomed late-20's something guy who is comfortable in his own skin and confident enough to strike up a conversation without a posse behind me. For whatever reason, women like that.

Jessie_James · 2014-03-15T15:46:52+00:00

Remember, what women find attractive in men changes as men get older. Older men are expected to be financially stable, more mature and ready to have a family, own a home (or at least not be living with 4 dudes in an apartment), and so forth.

You can still have fun, and you can do it alone, just understand what changes.

87GNX · 2014-03-15T15:59:08+00:00

If you don't do the marriage/settling down thing, you're going to find that you swap out your friends for younger ones over time.

When I was a Freshman in college, I mostly ran with Juniors/Seniors.

At 30, I'd say the median age of my friends is 25. In one particular case, I used to hang out a fair bit with this one guy, he has gone into full beta-provider mode and is working out of town for weeks at a time to save up for his post-wall woman so they can have a house and babies.

I'm now doing shit with his little brother.

cookem8 · 2014-03-15T16:48:26+00:00

Find other single men to hang out with. I'm sure there are plenty at your school. Fuck their/your age.

Ak_Float_Flyer · 2014-03-16T01:29:49+00:00

It's true, you are right at the age where everything changes. You are lucky that resources like this exist; I failed to adapt and it was the start of a years-long dry spell that only ended at the treshold of middle age.

For me, bars just completely stopped working after 30. It's all about day game now, and things get a lot harder for a while. You'll be fine as an up-and-coming professional if you keep yourself in shape, have a nice car and apartment and dress and present well all the time, but blue-collar me got scraped off right into MGTOW land. Things didn't improve until my mid 40s.

The usual advice around here to stick with girls 18-30 regardless of your age is right, well into middle age. Women past about 30 are not only less desirable, but are much harder to get anywhere with. They usually carry baggage like careers and kids and ex-husbands and are wary of adding to their lifetime sex partner count. Their looks are fading and weight rising even as they become more entitled and independent minded. They don't get their heads on straight until menopause, when they are usually rid of the baggage but also old.

Travel, choose a "status" hobby like sailing or golf, and live downtown in a desirable city if you can possibly afford it. Embrace your age, many girls are into "established" men. Live in the daytime and perfect your day game. Nights are for the young.

krujo77 · 2014-03-16T00:13:03+00:00

Another thing I've found approaching that age, is that women of similar age who have their shit together are more receptive of being approached and at least entertaining a conversation.

Didn't feel that way in the younger years, had plenty of rejection, but some of it was irrational, and that irrational shutdown seems to go away a little bit

edit: finishing that thought, I believe that irrational rejection was just a social tentativeness they had, and without firm knowledge of who you were, your friends, and having their friends give an okay, they would shut down. As women age, they gain confidence/experience, and can reject you based on legitimate reasons of their own choosing

__ROOSTER__ · 2014-03-16T17:33:06+00:00

I think the problem is you're defining social proof as having a bunch of guys around, which is an extremely limited definition.

CrimsonCapsule · 2014-03-15T13:43:48+00:00

Learn to DJ. Become your own center of attention.

Title	How social proof evaporates with age
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Date	March 15, 2014 1:07 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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