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Idk how true all of this is. Do really most women choose looks as number 1?

greenlight144000

August 17, 2021
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Title Idk how true all of this is. Do really most women choose looks as number 1?
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greenlight144000

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Date August 17, 2021 7:03 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/p6a20y/idk_how_true_all_of_this_is_do_really_most_women/
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[–]Exciting-Candle2753 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I hate the blackpill extremists as they're so depressing, but lets be real.

Of course a girl isn't gonna wanna sleep with a guy if she isn't physically attracted. It's a pre-requisite. Same as it is for us men.

Even dating coaches acknowledge the blackpill nowadays (troyfrancis, tusk etc) - Like they say themselves, there has never been a time where the good looking guys aren't wanted by women

What I would say though is the blackpillers take it too far. And they also don't account for the fact that not every single girl has the same taste when it comes to looks

[–]greenlight144000[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I’ve Never been hid on or been flirted by a woman in person so does that mean I’m not good looking meaning it’s over?

[–]TheSunshineMan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It could mean that they were hitting on your and flirting with you but you didn't even know it, because 95% guys are completely oblivious to girls subtle hints.

[–]AelfredRex 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, they don't. It's energy, and that's mostly the way you hold yourself, your personality, who you are on the inside. Positive energy attracts, negative energy repels. Incels are pure negativity and women avoid them like the disease that they are, but in order to protect their screwed-up egos they have to lie to themselves and claim it's all about looks.

[–]Nickdr_12 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like the fact that you have the goat as your profile picture

[–]LaidBackAndRowdy 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

Incels.wiki? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

The reason incels can't get laid has little to do with the flaws they perceive about themselves.

The reason they don't get laid is because they are mentally weak, pathetic, self-pitying losers who use "facts" like these to justify their own laziness and lack of effort to improve themselves.

Nobody, man or woman, wants to spend any of their time around pathetic, delusional people like that, let alone see them as romantic partners πŸ˜‚

It's just incel's excuse to stay angry, sad, and mentally weak, because that's a hell of a lot easier than going through the work to gain self-awareness and self-acceptance.

The work is fucking hard. The hardest shit I've done in my life. And it took years, along with ongoing maintenance to this day.

Incels are too weak and lazy to do it. That's why they don't get laid.

As a teenager, I was the fat, insecure, angry, unsuccessful loser.

Even though I worked hard to improve my outside appearance, I still couldn't get laid until I did the internal work, so this is all bullshit. If you're a loser, you're not going to get laid, no matter what other attributes you have.

I was 6' 1", successful, and conventionally attractive, and I still had zero success with women, while my shorter, less successful, less attractive friends were slaying.

If you do the work, women will be attracted to you precisely because you're self-fulfilled, don't need their validation or approval, and treat them like human beings, rather than targets.

What you perceive is lacking about yourself right now won't matter, because you will have the #1 most important thing all those other guys don't have. Real confidence.

The kind of confidence, fulfillment, and self-direction that comes from facing your demons, conquering them, and coming out on the other side with respect for yourself.

That's something that can't be bought or faked, and you can't learn it in a pick-up artist book or course.

There are no short-cuts. Do the fucking work.

Instead of going to therapy, facing their traumas, flaws, fears, and weaknesses, working to improve themselves, accepting themselves, and finding fulfillment outside the validation and approval of others, incels just whine and grovel for acceptance by women, and then lash out in anger when they don't get it.

That desperation to be accepted is the #1 reason these losers can't get laid.

Why? Because men who are desperate for a woman's acceptance are fucking dangerous.

I have no pity for incels, just like I had no pity for myself.

The answers are staring them right in their faces, and they are so lacking in self-awareness that they still can't see it.

They'd rather cling to their excuses than fucking do anything about.

[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This.

[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I'm 6' 1", successful, and conventionally handsome

Stopped reading there. You're a tall good-looking guy and you're literally just privilege-explaining away why other people have issues lol.

[–]LaidBackAndRowdy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

And I used to be a fat, depressed, self-pitying, unsuccessful loser.

I did the work.

[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

That doesn't mean other people haven't and still couldn't get success

[–]LaidBackAndRowdy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You have 2 choices:

  1. Whine
  2. Do something about it

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Could you elaborate on what work you did exactly.

Did you do pick up, looks maxing, finding meaningful hobbies, expanding social circle etc or did you take another route.

What results did you get in the end, how many hookups, fwb’s or relationships.

[–]LaidBackAndRowdy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dudes will literally try anything to avoid going to therapy.

Like I said, there are no short-cuts. Do the work.

[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You don't understand dude.

[–]LaidBackAndRowdy -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Bro, I do understand. As a teenager, I was fat, ugly, insecure, depressed, lonely, suicidal, aimless, and hopeless.

I've walked through hell. It can be done, but you've got to leave the mental weakness behind and find your strength.

Instead of getting angry at women, get pissed off that this mentality that is holding you back from the life you want, and fucking fight it.

[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Even finding your "strength" doesn't guarantee you'll find women. There's still way too many factors and variables one can control that dictates that.

I don't condone getting angry at women, but they're more selective than they've ever been and even working on yourself doesn't always combat that.

[–][deleted] 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then find something else that fulfills you and stop obsessing so much about the attention, validation, and approval of women.

I don't obsess over women. Quite the opposite. I've spent years working on aspects of myself, but the point is at some point you crave companionship from women. Idgaf about validation and approval of women, but some point not having a woman is just a glaring void that you can help but notice after a whie.

They're just human beings like you and I, with their own failures, self-doubts, and struggles.

Sure. But as it pertains to seduction, many women are pretty shallow and selective with a myriad of options at all times from any number or sources. More than they've ever had. Their self-doubts and hang-ups are irrelevant when meeting them bc they recieve so much attention and validation from sooo many men. It inflates their ego and makes them unapproachable.

My biggest successes (including finding the woman I later married) all came when I stopped giving a shit about "finding" or "seducing" women, and just lived my life the way that was fulfilling to me.

I have done that...and met no women. Great that it worked for you or whatever....congrats. But this whole "just live your life and women will come" shit doesn't work for most people, or this sub wouldn't exist. I'm a naturally aloof, stoic...I don't go hounding and pressing for women...and its equated to nothing. I totally stopped putting energy into finding women...and, surprise, surprise still no women.

I started working out, taking care of myself, dressing better, being more ambitious in my career, and trying new things because they made me feel good. Not for any other reason.

All of that is great to do. It doesn't magically conjure women to your orbit, though. Again, everyone doesn't meet women via osmosis. I mostly focus on my career, I'm in the best shape of my life, I have a personal interest in grooming and high fashion so I dress extremely well. And I do those things bc I want to, not for women...but none of that has helped at all with women.

There's a positive energy that comes from being self-fulfilled that no other kind of energy can compete with.

It does. I agree...but AGAIN...it doesn't magically make women notice or interested in you....

You will have no need for "seduction", because your energy will literally attract the right kind of people to you.

Stop. Just no. It doesn't work that way unless you're just a good-looking person or rich. You will not literally, magically attract them otherwise. You will have to go to them. I can attest to this. Seduction exist for a reason. Most people need it.

You won't believe me, but I've literally never hit on a woman. I've never even "approached" or initiated a conversation. Not one, single time in my life.

Good for you. Idc if you have or haven't. The point is is most people operated that way, they would die alone and friendless and never find a mate. The vast majority of men need to approach to gain suiter because when don't have this perfect, elusive magic energy apparently.

I've never cared to. I'm pretty reserved. It's not authentic for me to force myself to do something like that. In fact, that would be a betrayal of my true self, and I won't do that for anyone, for any reason

That's nice. Great for you.. I'm an introvert and I'm naturally reserved. It doesn't fit much personality or acumen to approach. I'm just a more reactive person. But I have to approach because I don't look like Andrew Garfield, and if I don't I'll just be ignored.

Every woman I've ever been with came up to me first

Congratulations. Good for you. Awesome. Amazing!

Even now, I literally sit in a bar alone, amuse myself, have friendly conversations with the people around me, and women come up to me.

Good. For. You. If I go to a bar women ignore me because they're too busy with all the attention they're getting from men who actually approached to them. I'm a 6'3 stoic, black dude. Women aren't going to come up to me lol. Again, most men have to approach. Stop projecting. If this happens, it's just bc you're conventionally attractive.

Just because I'm reserved doesn't mean I'm shy or asocial. But I'm not going to try to be loud and outgoing, either. I'm calm, comfortable, easy-going, and friendly.

All I have to to is be centered and happy with myself.

But there's no magic pill or silver bullet to getting there. It's a long, hard road. You might as well start now.

You have to just be really good-looking...in which case all you hand-waving about "energy" is moot because people are only coming to you for your looks, and that can't be achieved by a random person. Good-looking people get women coming to them, good-looking dudes don't have to approach. Everyone else does idc what kind of "energy* you have. Being "centered and happy" isnt enough to attract women. You can't give advice when it just comes down to your looks lol.

[–]thethrowowoy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone can work on looking better.

Get to the gym, eat well (and enough), go for a walk/run as much as possible, buy clothes that fit, moisturise your skin, tidy you hair/beard, stand with a good posture, walk with confidence...

99% of men have the power to change the above. Your competition doesn't need to be against the chiselled jaw greek olympian... it just needs to be against the you of yesterday.

Keep up personal improvement and women will start choosing you who wouldn't have chosen you yesterday.

[–]thelambofdeth -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ofc they do. The cOnFiDenCe rebuttal is just gaslighting

[–]earsurgery9 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

just baby step them to sex bro.Even if she thinks you're ugly! /s

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