How many of the people who have managed to turn their lives around using seduction are happy with their lives and relationships (and still hang around reddit?)

RedErin · 2010-11-10T16:42:50+00:00

I'm a bit different than most in that I've been married for 10 years. Seddit is what gave me the push to really stop being shy and introverted. I used Seddet to help me be friendly to all people, as this works great for just getting friends too.

But really Seddit has helped with my marriage as well. It taught me that even though I'm in a relationship, you can never stop trying to seduce your SO. If you do stop trying to attract your partner, then they'll start taking you for granted, and stop finding you attractive.

intjpua · 2010-11-10T18:30:09+00:00

I started reading about pickup and seduction a couple of years ago. I got serious about actually doing something about it maybe a year ago. Today, I'm pretty good at attracting and sleeping with attractive women, and my approach anxiety is manageable in many circumstances (but by no means all circumstances). AA is still one of my biggest hurdles.

So, does it work? Well, that depends on what "it" means.

If you put in the work, get out in the field, and talk to women on a regular basis, you will get better at picking up women, and you will have more women in your life. There's no question about that.

If you do it systematically, with an eye toward improvement, and an understanding of the basic concepts to help you embrace your most attractive qualities (attitude of abundance, detached from outcomes, confidence, and assertiveness) and kill off your most unatttractive qualities (supplication, qualifying yourself), you will get better pretty fast. A year ago, I couldn't approach a new girl on the street or in a bar and get her number a few minutes later. Today I can (not every time, by any means; not all girls are buying what I'm selling, but I rarely go out to a bar without bringing home a number). A year ago, I couldn't sleep with a girl after spending two or three hours with her. Now I can; pretty consistently, actually. I've always been good at eventually sleeping with a girl if I got her on a date with me...but now I'm good at making it happen fast.

If you write up field reports, and have debriefing sessions with your peers here at seddit, you'll also probably learn faster. You'll probably internalize the right behaviors by visualizing them and thinking through all their permutations. Writing it up and discussing it insures you're really putting in the thought required to learn from your experiences.

Another interesting thing: More women approach me now, and more women pursue me, without me even trying. It may be that I was simply blind to being pursued before I knew what it looked like. Regardless, I now pretty regularly have girls starting conversations with me. It's almost like they can sense that I have options. But, it could just be that my body language, and relaxed attitude around women, makes them notice me more and view me in a more positive light. Because I know I can get laid pretty much any time with just a phone call, I never have that, "OMG, she's so beautiful I want her so bad" kind of vibe when I meet a beautiful girl.

But, I do want to caution you that reading and watching videos, alone, does not make you better with women. You will never improve if all you do is read and watch and never do. You have to put in the work. There is no alternative to practice.

UnicornDolphin · 2010-11-10T17:21:16+00:00

The PUA Tyler Durden estimated that 90% of people that actually take BOOTCAMPS stop practicing seduction within 6 months of taking bootcamps. Now imagine the percentage for people that didn't spend thousands of dollars for personal training, and just practiced seduction from what they read through the internet, it's probably much higher. Another thing you'll notice is that the majority of posts on seddit are by college kids. I honestly think learning about seduction is simply a phase, you get really excited about it when you first hear about it, but you eventually grow out of it and start to realize that past a few key points, most of it is bullshit and mental masturbation.

2010-11-10T19:44:04+00:00

I started reading MASF when I got my ass handed to me by a hot girl I was dating. I had done okay with the ladies but was still a massive beta chump.

Post Game:

Sex with over 85 girls, up from 12 before learning game

The last three girls I've dated told me they loved me. 8 year streak of nothing before that.

I haven't gone more than a couple weeks without sex, after learning game.

I am in an LTR with a beautiful, smart, girl that's crazy about me.

South-West · 2010-11-10T16:45:50+00:00

i have done things the same way for most of my life when i comes to women, a few years ago i stumbled across the PUA community and found that many things that i was already doing were things that people talked about as good ways to deal with girls. The second part of your question is hard to answer. how do you define "has it worked in the long term" eveyones goals are different, for me i didnt have to change much, so not much in my life changed, "is it worth it" this sounds like its hard and big decision, as if this were getting a facelift done. The ideas behind PUA are just that, ideas, they are more about improving yourself and gaining overall confidence in yourself then picking up ladies, the ladies just so happen to enjoy someone that is confident. "whats down the road" what ever you want really, if your just want to gain some self worth, find a relationship, talk to girls and not be afraid, or something more shallow as if you just want to add some numbers to your screw count. Is it worth it to YOU is the real question

CuilRunnings · 2010-11-10T17:38:14+00:00

Me! I have a very strong sex-drive, so I found that my best path to self-improvement was through women. I've met some amazing people, and become a much better person.

lookslikespeed · 2010-11-10T19:57:19+00:00

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OHGODTHELASERS · 2010-11-10T17:05:53+00:00

We still work dont we? :)

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