Long time lurker, throwaway for obvious reasons. Sorry this is so long, but I've been meaning to say this for a while.

I wouldn't say I was the best natural around, certainly nothing like some of the real premier PUAs. However, I probably was a certainly above average. What's interesting, is my friends always thought it was a form of magic. I was never that serious alpha male, but I always managed to have my reality dominate, and was extremely good at escalating. If a girl I wanted so much as started flirting with me, I knew I had her. There was a very good chance I'd have her where I wanted her by the end of the night.

At the time, I didn't really know what it was, like I said, I wasn't an alpha male jock. I was just an average looking guy who flew under the radar. And I found out that this is exactly what made me so good at it -- most woman weren't expecting it, and would put their guard lower around me. However, by the end of it, and if I was in my "state" I'd be going so fast, and controlling the situation so well, she didn't know what hit her.

Some of my highlights:

  • 4some with 3 other woman. I didn't even expect this one to happen. We were just hanging around drinking beer, shooting the shit until one randomly kissed the other. Things sort of just happened from there - honestly, I had little to do with this one. All I did was getting them thinking about sex, and they took care of the rest themselves. Two were HB8s and the other an HB9

  • 3some with two girls. They came feeding. When they came over, I just wanted to hang out, but I suspect they had this whole thing planned from the start. What was great was that they were both relatively innocent, so it was nice to have the privilege. One was a HB6, the other a HB8 who is now more like a HB7

  • Fucking a HB9.8 -- She was a total Queen Bee. She ran the world of everyone around her. She moved fast, and was extremely manipulative. When guys weren't too intimidated to talk to her, she'd be rejecting them within seconds. She also clearly had some daddy-issues/attention seeking issues. Right after meeting her, I caught onto this, and refused to give into her world and give her the fuel she lives for. I would completely ignore her, and never give into her really aggressive flirts she did with guys she wanted attention from. Eventually she practically attacked me.

  • A reality show celebrity. A young and exploding B-list celebrity. A politicians daughter.

  • A good handful of HB7s and HB8s.

Looking back at it, when I was a natural, I was using cocky-funny with a touch of egotism (just enough to get them to validate themselves to me) while always being their friend. I never acted like a straight out dick to them. In fact, I still stay in touch with a lot of them. While my guy friends always wanted to just hang out with the guys and BS, I preferred hanging out with groups of woman. Guys are cool to hang out with and all, but I always found it more fun with chicks... This also helped validate me to other woman when we went out. Even if I was sleeping with none of them, they were still really attractive, which worked out well.

I'd rarely have to approach woman in the PUA way. In most cases, it was just woman brought around me by others. My friends had a joke about not bringing friends from back home around me, because I'd probably sleep with them. Which I would. Also, I started noticing guys wouldn't bring their new GFs around, because more likely than not, I'd inavertadly make them look beta in front of their new GF, since I was in control.

Unfortunately, I was also an idiot at the same time. I could have slept with a lot more of them, but I didn't realize I was also making some AFC mistakes. This knowledge would have been great to have several years ago. I was terrible at the whole solo, random pick up. For example: If I did feel inclined to pick up a girl, I wouldn't do it the traditional way. The set would only take 10-15 seconds, so they wouldn't have enough time to react. If I was at a bar with my friends, and spotted a set, I'd quickly go in, and really escalate their excitement with a loud non-creepy joke and light kino, take control of the situation, and then quickly leave before they could really get anything about me. Then I'd go back to my friends and have a blast. Most of the time the girls would see this and be intrigued. Then later in the night, if they ended up near me and my group, I'd be able to easily bring them back in to hang out with my group. I had my reality among my friends, and by bringing them into my territory, I was forcing my reality onto them. I didn't know how to do it any other way unless I was in a really strong "state". This method was a way to skip a lot of the qualifying and back and forth BS that I am terrible with a new person.

The Decline:
It started when I moved to a new city. I had not only left back all my friends, but had also all the girls I used to validate me to other woman, which I didn't realize at the time, but was my primary tool. Again, if I knew about the game at the time, I would have easily been able to recognize this and correct it. However, I wasn't conscious of it at all until I actually started learning about the seduction community.

This triggered a negative feedback loop. I was finding it more and more difficult to pick up woman, which was slowly chipping away at my self confidence. I started questioning what the fuck about me has changed that woman just aren't interested as they used to? Little did I know, but I was getting more and more desperate, lowering my value by the day, and just generally burning myself down. I began getting really beta and me getting into that "state" was happening far less frequently. Now to the point that it just rarely happens.

Now, even when I rarely get into that "state" I'm not getting it. I'm finding it harder and harder to find the ability to get everyone into my reality. When I try to kino or start small talk, it just comes off creepy -- mainly because I'm trying to replicate the actions I would make when completely confident and in control, but not actually confident and in control. It's robotic and extremely noneffective. For instance, recently had a HB9 totally all over me, because I was just running all the girls around her into excitement and completely ignoring her, since I hardly know her. She started giving me the violent harlot look of seduction. In which case, I completely bombed, because now I knew I had my opening that no other guy has been offered, and I panicked and fucked it up.

I also have issues taking the lead when I'm given it or can take it. For instance, if I'm around a group of people I don't know too well, and start taking over the group, when the group of friends already has a "leader", I start to back off once I see their "leader" losing his spot. I just feel like a dick ruining this guys position and making him look like a beta. Even more so when they are my direct friends. I've literally walked into a bar before while one buddy is just having a blast, running his thing, and then I come in and completely take control of it. Said buddy would then get more and more recluse and not fun at all. It's like raining on their parade. I know I am going to have to get over this, because I know they have no problem doing it to me, but I just feel like a dick doing it.

Conclusion:
While I still can get with an HB6 pretty easily and the rare occasional HB7/8, and dance around the mind of a 19 year old. I miss my days of getting primo pussy. I want the intelligent, classy, good looking woman that are getting more and more scarce as I get older. My game just continues to decline every day, and I need to halt the decline and get back in.

I don't really know where to start. I have read the material, I know what to do. I just "don't care" enough, subconsciously. I go out, and I have low energy. I can't get into a state at all. Before I can even start doing this, I need to learn how to get back into a state. Nothing seems to be working for me. And when I do, I can't explain it any better than "fizzling out". Almost like a sudden caffeine crash after an hour of being in "state".

Any thoughts, ideas, that would help someone like myself? I feel like, since I used to be a natural, I could have a potential rapid incline, I just need some real advice.

Thanks!