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[–]TimPartendale 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Abs cream, pheromone sprays and penis enhancement only shows how gimmicky guys are willing to get to achieve results. Yet it's not just guys; there are crazier products out there for women.
Confidence comes from within and without going on a rant I'll just let this post about Clooney speak for itself.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Abs cream? It's the same stuff women use on their thighs to reduce pregnancy fat.
[–]readonlyuser 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
UH....
The value I get from your post is don't act try-hard.
That being said, how to get laid as George Clooney has nothing to do with your average redditor. We don't have international recognition, a household name, incredible good looks, known social status and connnections, and social proof coming out of our ears.
There's no girl out there looking to bang you just so she can tell all her friends she banged you. You can't get into every club without waiting in line and having a table and drinks comped. You can't reasonably expect all the hot girls in the venue to open you. You can't elicit screams of delight when you walk past a crowd of strangers.
Do NOT seek to learn seduction from George Clooney, nor any other celebrity, nor any fictional character like James Bond or whatever. That's pie-in-the-sky nonsense that should immediately strike you as garbage if you're spending time in the field.
That being said, not intending any offense to you, OP. Obviously having a sense of sprezzatura is advantageous, especially as you get older and your experience, resources and connections become your selling point. I just don't want to give anybody here the impression that picking up women is going to be like cavorting through a rainbow in a dewy meadow with happy songbirds. Especially if you're going out regularly, which everybody should be doing, you're eventually going to have a whole shit-ton of rejection and difficult emotions like loneliness, discouragement and frustration.
TL;DR You're not George Clooney.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You had me at "don't act try-hard", I am going to borrow that and use it.
I am glad I am not George Clooney, nor I want to be, like you mentioned there are a lot of girls who would bang him just to say they did, or - worst - trap him. Big bag fool of nope.
What I meant to say is that:
being fit, thanks to /r/Fitness
follow my dream career, regardless of financial outcome
trying to be the most decent human being possible, including volunteering
practicing my interests (personally: guitar playing, fitness, reading, writing, and a few more)
becoming a good communicator (reading, writing and Toastmasters helped)
develop my own sense of style in clothing and most everything in my life
being genuine and honest in my dealings
cultivate friendships, and treating everyone with respect
all of the above works for me as a happy enough and confident human, and I have learned most of it from sifting through the PUA/Seductin community, maybe not directly but at least indirectly; and as a byproduct I am happy to say that I am doing pretty good with the ladies.
That's all I am saying. There are some PUA gurus, I have watche their youtube videos and, for one I don't have the personality to pull off what they do, and second . . . I would have not much in common with the women that would be attracted to that.
[–]hotpants69 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You make so much sense I want to hug you. But I will still try and emulate Clooney. Maybe somebody wants to bang him so hard that they side bang me instead.
[–]Pornfest 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck yeah for the sprezzatura reference man. Learned about it from my 10th grade english teacher while reading Shakespeare's "Much Ado About Noting" seriously one of the most important outward game habits for me throughout my teens and first two years of college.
[–]luckybuck 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just go read Models by Mark Manson. The stuff you mentioned has little to do with clooney and more to do with being successful in life. An ease of intention comes with having yourself sorted out and making tons of money as well.
[–]hotvision 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is essentially what Mark Manson teaches: Be the best version of yourself, be true to yourself, stay fit and fashionable, be a good person, go after what you want, and good things will happen.
[–]SirByron 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are lots of guys who are more than this. You're not listing that he is a STAR?
[–]Make3 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"does not have a job" are you kidding me? He's a multi-millionnaire respected movie star. It's about as professionally successful as anyone can dream to be.
He's also stupidly good looking, as most movie-stars are.
Just saying, comparing yourself to that guy is retarded
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He has a career, not a M-F 9-5 job.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is really uninformative, if only for the massive omission.
In deconstructing the tail-slinging of Clooney, #1-100 has to be that
he is a huge, famous, international, celebrity
That is social value you can't manufacture, and none of these women would have ever heard of him if this were not the case.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
God damn this was helpful. Best line:
Live your life on your own terms, which cannot means to bed as many HB as possible, nor going out to bars and clubs as many nights as possible try to score #-closes, k-closes or f-closes.
Exactly what I needed to hear. The best game is not to game.
[–]EpicStumblin 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not necessarily "The best game is not to game," more like, "The best game is your own game."
But otherwise interesting breakdown
[–]readonlyuser 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"The best game is not to game". Can you help me understand what you mean by that? Do you mean that you intend to stop trying to chat up women?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't go for the numbers. Just live I guess.
[–]readonlyuser 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would say 'not going for the numbers' is only a valid rationalization once you've done your due diligence. If you don't have enough experience under your belt, 'not going for the numbers' is a cop out to avoid facing your fears, etc. Until you've been going out and have a solid gameplan and know what an entire evening should look like from meet to whatever, you won't be prepared for the girl who is the outlier you're looking for.
If you're the guy who's worked his butt off for years to get his game tight as a drum, then more power to you, and I hope you nail it once the right girl(s) crosses your pass.
If you're not that guy, don't make excuses, don't look for pretty words or quotes to justify inaction, bite the bullet and figure this shit out. At that point, 'numbers' do matter and should be your goal until you get your game in order. Don't let 'live your life' mean 'don't commit to something'.
Or at least "game" yourself.
[–]chainsawlaughter 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This IS one of the most intelligent and helpful posts I have seen here in quite awhile. OP is very observant and wise. Seduction is about being subtle
[–]AJRexworth -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All of this material we consume, reflect upon and try out is only meant to be used as training wheels until we figure it out for ourselves. Once it's internalized and becomes a natural part of who we are there is no need to worry about approach vectors and when an appropriate time to text is and what line to open with.
[–]ofcrazed -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
TIL: George Clooney is unemployeed
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