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[–]puaCurveBall 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop trying to fuck girls with shitty personalities :)
[–]masterrod 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This happens.. You will be surprised how much a hug, or a hand on the shoulder can go in this respect. Warming up a target is always good a skill.
[–]nominally 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Escalate quickly. Initiate kino faster. Cut the bullshit.
If she's hung up or stuck up you'll figure out faster.
[–]readonlyuser 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can you specify what you mean by 'the bullshit'?
[–]CalmSpider 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not everybody is high energy, and not everybody is a great conversationalist. I'd probably not describe your friend as having a "shitty personality," unless she is actively shitty to people. She just sounds like she's not very talkative. Communicating with people like this is a skill, and it sounds like you could use some work in that department if you're shotgunning five questions at a time at her.
With new people, that boring mode is kind of the default, since most people want to be "safe" when meeting new people and avoid making a bad impression. Your best bet is to match the person's energy level and try to draw out topics that they are comfortable discussing.
If the new person is a woman you're attracted to, that doesn't automatically mean she is going to feel perfectly secure or that she's going to assume attraction, assume her first impression will go well, or not worry about running out of things to say. Most of the time, she's going to start the interaction as safely as she can with minimal personality in order to keep from screwing up your first impression of her. There is no reason to feel bad about a pretty lady not being very enthusiastic when you first meet her.
This goes even more for cold approaches, where she has the added pressures of needing to figure out why you approached her, assessing potential threats, and navigating an unexpected, unprepared conversation with a stranger.
[–]DrewCruise3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Anyone have advise for conversing with someone who has a shitty personality?
In my practice, I just don't do it. This may come off as a bit cold hearted, but I'm not here to be a girl's therapist. If you are listening to someone's problem, or trying to fix them, or working on sympathy with them, then you are not her boyfriend...you are her gay guy friend. It is not your job to be the shoulder for her to cry on during the early phase of the pickup. THIS IS FRIENDZONE
If you are happy listening to other girls issues, then play the therapist role and see how often you get laid. When I'm with somebody I've just met and they give me short answers and 'whoa as me' problems, I leave that pity party. I say, "Well, I hope it works out for you." Then I turn and walk away.
I only want to be around upbeat, positive people. if this girl needs help then introduce her to a qualified psychiatrist or counselor. People with issues have to want to get help, otherwise they use some like you to leech away your energy. You wonder why this affects your game, it's because you're inviting this crap in and letting them suck away your positive energy.
Once you have an exclusive, loving, long term relationship with someone, then you can help that person and listen to their problems. Until then, give this girl some distance. Make yourself happy and stop associating with these pity party, energy moochers.
tl;dr: Leave the pity party and check out of their heartbreak hotel.
[–]trthorson 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just FYI, it's "woe is me" not "whoa as me" :)
Agree with your post though.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do you have to spend time with people you don't like? The only reason I can think of is that you are kind of desperate or out of options at the moment. Don't take his as an insult but you have to accept this before you can improve. Never accept second class treatment or behavior from women, from anyone. Call them out, and leave. If she doesn't try to reignite conversations like you have said; she is certainly not attracted, and is just looking for company to feel better about herself while her fuckbuddies are out of town. She is a tester. Don't orbit her. Leave, immediately. You are a man, assume for a moment that you were James Bond, 007 himself. Would you sit down with a boring harlot (no offense to women, this sounded so 70s ) who doesn't invest in the conversation or pay attention? No. You would push her away, go enjoy yourself with a beautiful girl you approach in your way out of her apartment complex, who would get shot because of her involvement with you by some evil villain's henchmen. But you wouldn't care that much.
Be James Bond, my friend. Fake it until you make it.
[–]IpickupGrandmothers 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe she gets anxious around you because she views you as a baller? Or maybe she's just anxious or awkward in general.
I'd personally view it as an opportunity to:
[–]Kay1000RR 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You shouldn't give her an interview or she'll respond like it's an interview. Get her emotions involved. Women don't care what you're talking about. They only care how they feel in that moment. Try to get in her head and spark an emotional reaction. You probably come across as boring, because I feel the same way about women who ask me question after question during a date. The good ones are the ones that can get me passionate about a topic and incite emotion.
[–]penismissle 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do you talk to girls with shitty personalities? Ya don't! Why would you want to bend over backwards for a woman who doesn't deserve you? Why does she deserve your attention with a bad attitude and personality?
Value yourself and move on, buddy, you deserve better. There are so many women who are much nicer, more beautiful, funnier, and better company. If someone has an attitude with me I immediately walk away. No shit, I literally turn around and leave.
[–]lofiharvest 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seriously, respect and value yourself and move onto someone you actually enjoy.
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