Toxic masculinity is a harmful myth. Society is in denial about the problems of boys and men.

Mehmet_Jamukhov_7860 · 2024-03-10T20:28:13+00:00

People talk about toxic masculinity but not toxic feminism. What a shitbird society we live in.

ChocolateNo484 · 2024-03-10T19:26:56+00:00

Wow. Seeing big think publish this is crazy

furchfur · 2024-03-10T19:10:26+00:00

Not just discrimination but whole load of other issues covered.

In 2021, President Biden created a White House Gender Policy Council, a successor to the previous Council on Women and Girls, which had been abolished by Donald Trump. But while the name changed, the mission did not. The formal charge of the new Council is “to guide and coordinate government policy that impacts women and girls.”

Chama-HUH · 2024-03-10T19:41:53+00:00

What’s considered toxic masculinity?

ArmchairDesease · 2024-03-11T08:35:20+00:00

Psychology professionals are starting to push back against the use of this terms, since it's obviously damaging to their male patients.

Feminists are puzzled by this pushback, because it's supposed to be damaging...

ERiC_693 · 2024-03-11T03:18:48+00:00

The fourth major failure of the political Left is an inability to recognize that gender inequalities can — and increasingly do — run in both directions. In 2021, President Biden created a White House Gender Policy Council, a successor to the previous Council on Women and Girls, which had been abolished by Donald Trump. But while the name changed, the mission did not. The formal charge of the new Council is “to guide and coordinate government policy that impacts women and girls.” In October 2021, the Council published a National Strategy on Gender Equity and Equality, the first in U.S. history.
The strategy is entirely asymmetric. No gender inequalities related to boys or men are addressed. The fact that women now outnumber men in college is noted, but only in order to highlight the fact that women hold more student debt than men. This is absurd. It is like complaining that men pay more income tax because they earn more. There is no mention at all in the strategy of the sizable gender gaps in favor of girls in K–12 education. The need for reform of school discipline policies to help Black girls is emphasized, but there is no mention of the specific challenges of Black boys (even though they are twice as likely as Black girls to be suspended or expelled). The goal of increasing access to health insurance for women is highlighted, but nothing is said about the fact that men are at a higher risk of being uninsured than women (15% v. 11%).

Emphasis are my own.

As to women in college more, you can see even when women are ahead in attending university (privileged) and get tonnes of scholarships, bursaries, workshops they're oppressed as they hold more debt. If men attended college more we'd hold more debt, I doubt that would be a problem. This is just fucking ridiculous.

rabel111 · 2024-03-11T04:24:29+00:00

The same traits considered emblematic of toxic masculinity are encouraged and celebrated in women. Its not behaviours that toxic masculinity targets, its the male sex. That's why 'toxic masculinity' is feminist hate speech.

Hyphalex · 2024-03-11T05:55:04+00:00

It's just the whip society likes to crack. They want every man to feel like an oxygen thief

IronJohnMRA · 2024-03-11T12:50:42+00:00

There is no toxic masculinity.

jack_avram · 2024-03-11T04:10:34+00:00

Ironic they call it toxic and yet push it on women - basically calling the entire species toxic.

You'd think a movement called feminism would be against stripping femininity from women and lazily leveraging masculinity onto them instead.

Masculinity is male nature, femininity is female nature - powerful forces without room for weakness. Mess with either and you mess the entire species, clearly. The real evil hatred fury is being offended by fundamental aspects of human nature that work in a deep flow or harmony on their own without indoctrinations force feeding unnatural resistance of embracing these forces within.

Many in deep internal conflict to be constantly reminded their inherent nature is a problem to a very recent regime of its own selfish interests. You have to empower the species as a whole, start leveraging off one side to supposedly empower the other and the whole thing collapses.

entingmat2 · 2024-03-11T00:09:13+00:00

Hold up, bigthink?

The same platform that had Gloria Allred on?

SulkTv999 · 2024-03-11T04:32:05+00:00

What does the article actually say here?

Vaudeville_Clown · 2024-03-12T06:18:42+00:00

This is a good one because it's clearly an analytical structured breakdown, but the writer is still a bit naive, bless his heart.

See, he thinks these are "failures" and "mistakes" but it's absolutely intentional and by design. It all comes from the sickfuckery that is feminist theory and gender studies.

The root of the problem is this. In order for this pseudo religion to be "legitimate", it can't be something ordinary people would easily understand or could argue against. Only the "enlighted few" who've taken a master in gender studies can see through the veil about how society is truly built around systems of oppression. If you haven't done this you'll invariably take your place in the system, as an oppressor if you're a man, and a victim if you're a woman. Yes, you're all culture zombies without the ability to reason independently unless you've studied these hallowed tomes yourself. This means that even if boys and girls do the exact same thing, whether it's to fail or succeed in school, there's always a different underlying reason (because they are different players in the systems of oppression, and they haven't plowed through gender studies yet)

That's what this is about. The fucked up school system with all it's embedded misandry, it was all to legitimize a little cabal of lazy and insane people which really ought to have been bullied out of academia long ago.

One day they'll be defrauded properly and their "science" will be on the trash pile together with Hypnosis theory, Marxist economy and others.

jack_avram · 2024-03-16T10:28:09+00:00

So many inherent characteristics of humanity considered invalid by natural design and a problem of mere existence to be solved. I think we've gotten very distracted from our nature for so many to be so gullible. Voluntary self-demise on a civilization scale to have a growing number of these ultimately destructive ideologies against fundamental aspects of existence.

At a high level above all of these, I wonder if there's something rather alien and orchestrating all of this to get rid of us?

Title	Toxic masculinity is a harmful myth. Society is in denial about the problems of boys and men.
Author	furchfur
Upvotes	518
Comments	50
Date	March 10, 2024 7:09 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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