Tuesday approaches [FR]

TAKEtheUPBOAT · 2017-07-19T21:08:26+00:00

Scrolled down to see everyone's input... guess I'm first!
It's a numbers game, keep it up!

suxess6 · 2017-07-19T23:11:54+00:00

Direct game isn't good for night game. If you aren't VERY handsome, it's just a guaranteed early rejection. Go indirect

Morokweng · 2017-07-19T22:28:51+00:00

I'm sure you'll get there in the end.

Your report is again very fact-based, I see pickup and social interaction in general is an emotional process, facts and logic have a very peripheral role.

As a general principal I think you should work on reconnecting with your emotions and trying to be more aware of what feelings arise inside of you which might be helping or hindering you, as well as being more aware of the girls' subjective emotional experience as you talk to them.

For example, the girl who kept looking back at her friends, why do you think she did that? What was she feeling? Was she looking to them for help to get away from you? Was she worried about engaging with you because her friends might judge her? What were the options for engaging her friends and winning them over? What kind of smile was she giving? Was it a polite smile, a genuine one, a grimmace?

Becoming attuned to this shit and learning to recognise patterns will help you make progress.

savagesteve_13 · 2017-07-20T01:49:05+00:00

You may have been a bit too eager, it gives off a desperate vibe. Work on your delivery which is a little cheesy. One thing too is your looks, none of the chicks may have liked the way you look so nothing you say can help, its no big deal, move on.

jimmyelgent · 2017-07-19T22:58:14+00:00

game was fine, It's all a numbers game. Approach another hundred girls or so and one might give you a kiss or a number or whatever

cockycomedy · 2017-07-19T23:20:08+00:00

Haha good job! You did well. I remember first time I opened a sitting girl at a bar and asked "May I sit here?" , she said:
"If you must.."

You have more experience than you did before now. You'll do much better next time. But with experience from pumped up girls at bars, it is very easy to approach girls at coffee shops or the bus.

My suggestion is that you go something between direct and indirect at bars and venues like that.

Open with a compliment, but not her looks..Her style, her clothes, her hair, her accessories. And then keep the conversation light and fun. Nothing serious (no courtship), and try to lead her away after a few minutes. Another part of the bar perhaps, but if you just stay there, you are no different than the other guys who hit on her, and leave when she pays them no attention. By leading her, you show her subconscious that you have leadership skills. That's attractive.

Another point is: when you observe guys who are very good at bars and nightclubs: they don't go there to pick up girls. They go there to have fun.

But you want to pick up girls, right?

Here is the difference between those guys and sleazy guys who go home alone.

Cool guys FISH.

Sleazy guys HUNT.

Girls KNOW who is there to hunt. And they will have their defenses up. They notice the guys who walk from girl to girl, scouting the place and trying to catch girls alone or calculate their next move. They get repulsed.

Instead, occupy a very high traffic point at the venue with your wing, and talk to eachother, guys around you, the bartenders and have fun. Laugh, shoot photos. Play drinking games.. but:

THROW BAIT at the girls passing by.

Just a word, a question.

And when bites - pull. That's "fishing". You won't go for individual girls, but randomly throw comments as bait to girls passing by: "I KNOW THIS GIRL DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THE FINGERS OF THE GODS! DO YOU, SWEETHEART?" (It's a cool little cold reading game, nevermind)

I've listened to an interview with a PUA who was reminiscing a memory of him and his wing at a bar in vegas. This guy was asking girls who pass by their location: "Hey, what size rims you've got?" (At the cars). And dismissing those under 24".

I used to occupy a spot at this club called "Freetime" in my town. Now only 5% of Finns are Swedish, and they are rich and much cooler and better looking. Like.. the "white people" of Finland, right? And they usually don't like in my town.

So I was asking girls who pass by: "Hey, are you Swedish?" "Are you Swedish?" "You aren't Swedish are you?" "You don't look Finnish, are you Estonian?" (which is worse than Finnish)

Some girls don't bite. Some do. Some try to prove themselves "I'm not Swedish BUT MY GRANDMOTHER WAS!" and I'm like "meh.. not good enough. I need a RICH Swedish girl who can support me so I can afford to play the guitar all day while she brings home daddy's money.."

So I only gamed the girls who bit. Does that look like I was hitting on girls or hunting them? No. I was having fun, being social. But I was making out with one of the girls sooner or later and she was asking my number.

Some girls I turned my nose at, actually went to another part of the club AND BROUGHT THEIR SWEDISH FRIEND who spoke Swedish. Those I asked "Are you rich?"... to qualify more. Of course they weren't. So I turn my nose and say "Just Swedish isn't enough. I need RICH and SWEDISH."

I didn't leave my spot. I wasn't scanning the bar for the next girl. I was just being social at a social gathering.

Try this next time. But you will need social proof (your wing). You don't know if some of the girls will stop because she is attracted to you or him. Calibrate your "baits" for your situation and circumstances.

And here is a rejection I got at a restaurant/coffee shop talking to the girl in front of me in line: "Do you have some kind of mental disorder?" You haven't been rejected until you have been rejected like that :)

ThePUA_Baddie · 2017-07-20T03:32:55+00:00

this sounds like a typical night out at a bar or nightclub, there isn't really much of an issue in how you're doing things based on reading this. now, i don't know what your vibe or body language is, but some things you should always be doing: keep good posture and have strong eye contact, especially within the first few seconds of opening. hold your frame and don't waver.

now, assuming you are doing this, i wouldn't worry too much about these sets. you definitely need to be opening more volume and consistently. did you only open 6 sets that night? how often do you go out? You want to be opening at least a dozen per night and going out frequently. In order to meet receptive girls, you need higher volume. Right now the sample size is too small to draw any conclusions. Each of these girls may have had a legitimate reason for leaving you. Don't read too much into the reactions that you are getting. Continue to do more sets and make sure you're calibrating to how she feels

Title	Tuesday approaches [FR]
Author	essexaspie
Upvotes	17
Comments	14
Date	July 19, 2017 6:55 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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