How powerful do you think 'game' really is?

ThrowawayPUA · 2018-01-24T13:00:48+00:00

No, there's no such idea that you can bed every girl. What would give you that idea?

digitalbitch2 · 2018-01-24T14:37:14+00:00

Game are methods to show interest towards a woman in a confident and non-creepy manner, which is clear and cannot be misinterpreted.

It will not get you a girl that is not interested. It might get you are girl that is sitting on the fence about you. It WILL get you the girl that is attracted and invested in you.

Inner game, improving your fitness, confidence, fashion and humor, will increase the number of fence sitters and attracted girls, while decreasing the number of disinterested girls.

Shuuuuup · 2018-01-24T14:24:16+00:00

Looks aren't everything. Yes it is very possible to make a girl attracted to you who isn't initially attracted to you. People are mostly attracted to personality and stuff not just looks.

Screamscream26 · 2018-01-24T13:03:50+00:00

I know ugly guys in my high school who attract chicks I guess this heavily depends on their personality They are funny ,,good sense of humor etc So the what i figured out that some hot guys with bad personality can attract girls but sooner or later girls will lose interest in them See,your appearance is basically part of “game”

FreakinKrazed · 2018-01-24T14:44:41+00:00

It’s important to understand people’s feelings are feelings you literally have no moral right to manipulate them otherwise or be mad at them for feeling that way.

I entirely think there are things you can do and “game” that allows you to meet the person in the best possible way, saying the best possible things to connect with that person and whatever, it’s just important to stay grounded and realise what the fuck you’re doing.

Having a mindset like “every girl should be fuckable in theory” I fear can just be used as an excuse to keep trying to pressuring to fuck. I heard of the di Carlo escalation ladder or smth like that which was propped up here a lot and at least in the free pdf I read it seemed to mention a couple times the explanation would amount to “because by doing X she will feel more consenting and can’t say she didn’t allow it because technicality” and the fact that that’s even being considered a factor that deserves explaining makes me uncomfortable. I genuinely personally believe that it’s fucked that you’re thinking about “how to stop her from calling rape after”. ???? If that’s something you genuinely have to think about, how is whatever you’re doing at the time not excessive or how do you not know you’re doing something you probably shouldn’t because you’re scared they might catch you doing it? Idk if that makes sense anymore, i can’t even explain it but it feels like common sense to me.

Honestly my concerns all rely around people who come here that aren’t doing too well socially and with girls so they wanna’ one-up their game but can really overstep their bounds by being lost in their mindset of “conquering” or pulling every girl they want, which only adds to a fucked ego and sense that you deserve it if you don’t end up getting it. Kinda like a child.

I’d relate this behaviour to people who get posted up on creepy pms, niceguys, etc... but even ask literally any girl who has been clubbing, guaranteed they’ve had the unpleasant experience of some dude being too drunk, too touchy, too pushy, whatever.

(Tl;dr kinda) My overall stance is that if you aren’t pulling girls left and right or you can’t find a girlfriend that you really want or something like that, you just gotta make sure you’re grounded in what you do. When you let that become your only focus, you go crazy, end up on incels thinking the entire gender is retarded and/or out to get you. If someone doesn’t feel the same way for you as you do for them, it’s okay, it’s their feelings and they can’t help it, so whether or not you hypothetically could be able to smash any girl you wanted, the answer wouldn’t justify forcing yourself to take it.

Sorry for my long rant but I’m glad to argue with anyone who might feel differently or think I’m freaking out for no reason or whatever.

GameAndGains · 2018-01-24T15:47:56+00:00

I don't believe game should be a numbers game, but also you can't fuck every girl you meet. I have never heard of this 5 for 5 rule and I have read the mystery method. It wasn't in there.

Edit

You can't fuck every girl, but you can create attraction with every girl.

yargdpirate · 2018-01-24T15:48:28+00:00

I mean, what's the point of sleeping with someone you don't like? Life is too short to spend it with annoying people. Just don't and say that you did.

Maturion · 2018-01-24T17:54:51+00:00

Nobody can get bed any woman. Sometimes it will just not work, no matter how attractive you are, no matter how good your game is.

However, it is possible to make her change her mind about you, to create attraction that wasn't initially there. But this will never work on every woman.

A guy that has "5 in 5" is very likely to only ask out/date/bed women that he - consciously or not - preselected. You often have an intuitive feeling you won't be compatible with a certain person. I don't try to date them, I simply choose those that I feel good about. Same with gay people, they are often very good in pre-selecting people that may be gay as well.

NilsFlair · 2018-01-24T22:07:09+00:00

Of course game is effective!

Why?

Because women are way more picky when it comes to behavioral ques then men. Working on those behaviors will improve your skills with women a lot.

Even if you have really good looks, you can still fuck it up if you display unattractive behavior.

MrDiece · 2018-01-24T22:08:13+00:00

Game doesn't work like that.

Looks matter but only to get your foot in the door, you still have to do the work and looks aren't just your facial features, it's your style, clothes, skin care etc.

The competition is so low though, there are even good looking guys with shit style or no game. It's easy to blow these cats out of the water.

And, girls aren't 0 or 100. She may think you're okay but doesn't want to fuck you, then somewhere in the interaction that switch gets flipped.

Don't mess it up game is the exception, not the rule.

jglover82 · 2018-01-24T22:41:59+00:00

Be confident and approach a girl look her in the eye and say "HI". She will either be into you or not and walk away

dinercheeseburger · 2018-01-24T23:43:43+00:00

I never heard of 5 for 5, but I have heard and agree with the idea that you should approach a women with the belief that she is attracted to you.
Looks do matter, but like a few people have stated already, our behaviors can cause a loss of attraction. So, understanding the process and how the game works is definitely a huge advantage to make sure we don't lose or miss opportunities.

How much do looks matter depends- I don't know the answer- but I always believe if you are attracted and interested in meeting someone don't let her or your looks deter you.

Title	How powerful do you think 'game' really is?
Author	jacksonvilles
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Comments	28
Date	January 24, 2018 12:39 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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