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[–]Bodacious_King 74 points75 points76 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Such a golden rule. If you said "i've missed you! I was concerned! I can't wait to see you again!" And all that shit, there's no way you'd be meeting up. Thanks for the reminder
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I played the cool cat, benign smile, attitude as if saying "You've been naughty, child", without actually saying it. Friendly but cool. Definitely kept the investment vibe on "very low", just enough to let her know the door might be still open for her.
[–]WIA20XX 77 points78 points79 points 7 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
53 on 23!
Salute comrade!
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 30 points31 points32 points 7 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Inconsequential but fun trivia: We actually were 22 and 52 when I got into her pants. Our birthdays are two weeks apart, and happened while in no contact zone. At one point she told me I was not allowed to go for hotties younger than her.
[–]WIA20XX 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
You have a rotation? That's the best defense against neediness
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link
I lost two plates I had while we were full speed. One I let drop because of her dramas. The other went exclusive with a buddy of mine.
In the mean time I've been opening the pipeline. There are three women who are prime candidates, more in my logical range, 35-45, and I've kind of decided to quit night game and start going to meetup events. I feel the setting will work better for me.
[–]WIA20XX 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Meet up .com events have always been hit it or miss to me.
This is the Thin Man's method. Hardcore pickup, https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/action-reports/13679-another-over-35-called-her-bullshit-interesting-reesults/page2?13331-another-over-35-called-her-bullshit-interesting-reesults=&viewfull=1
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The link doesn't seem to work
[–]WIA20XX 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then Google for title on the link, Reddit messes up direct links. He's an older that uses a lot of meet up type events. All of his stuff is good
[–]thatbowlwillseethe 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Now I'm curious what you look like
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty decent. I do have to say genetics are on my side, but I'm no greek god. However, without all the other characteristics, I wouldn't get anywhere. Women are not primarily interested in looks in older men. Being reasonably hansome is all that is needed in the looks department.
It's a question of being attractive, which is much deeper than just looks.
[–]yumyumgivemesome 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Have you been night gaming at bars? If so, which types of bars have been most useful for not looking like "the old guy at the bar"?
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Music/concert bars. The ones I go to tend to be a 20-50 age mix. I don't straight up hit on random hotties. Age does matter, but, if you are just having fun, you can pick up IOIs from younger women, then you un-creepily work from there. I don't go to pick up, I go to have fun, with my eyes open.
[–]Toxik6 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Feel like I could learn lot from you
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
We all can learn a lot from almost anybody, if we are observant.
[–]Toxik6 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
True. Got another advice for a guy starting out?
Concentrate on having fun. Women love guys who have fun, instead of all the self-conscious guys trying to look cool.
Not my wisdom, it is repeated in much of the material in the sidebar:
Don't give a fuck. Outcome independence. Abundance mentality. Non neediness. It is really quite simple once you get the concepts. Once you get to the point where women feel they don't have any power over you, you are set.
[–]Toxik61 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Thanks. Definitely work in progress
[–]Teeheewoz 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Man ! You totally need to show up more on here ! I’d like to get a bit from your knowledge
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm no guru. I'm not a natural PUA, or any type of PUA for that matter.
I don't have the goal of getting as many different women as possible. But I do enjoy having the skill and tools to attract the women I find interesting, not letting them play with me, and having finally learnt not to become a fucking rug after getting them, which is the single worst error that many of us make when we get complacent (and which I started to make with this one, but seem to have stopped just in time)
I have been most of my life in serial LTRs, and the one with my ex-wife (18 years) slowly turned me from a fairly badass guy into a fucking menstruating beta. But I am recovering quite nicely, and I now have the perspective, experience, and knowledge to be able to handle interaction with women from a power position, which is fundamental, and quite attractive to them.
The vast majority of what I could tell you you can get from some of the recommended materials here. Read a lot, filter and form your own opinion.
[–]Teeheewoz 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah man ! You nailed it .. it’s great to see you doing well after all , you write some good material too , i’ll keep digging ..
Salute !
[–]bugxter 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Broke my phone and I'm using an older one
Textbook woman's lie, come on.
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Duh! Do you think I give a fuck? So, she gives me this excuse, asks to be forgiven for misbehaving, and offers to meet up today (not happening, I have to show some indifference and non-urgency), or tomorrow. So she demonstrates interest, shows repentance...
Let her fib, I have the pan by the handle. It's not like I'm going to marry her, and she's the one that has to make-up for misbehaving. She's the one who has the (however slight) guilt to make up for.
[–]chetti990 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I work in phone sales. It might be a lie, but this situation is much more common than you may realize.
[–]GimmeSomeLiquid 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Good work. Lots of lessons in this thread. How exactly are you able to pick up 20 something hotties in your fifties? Is it just pickup or financial success and/or social prestige?
[–]Finessence 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Combination most likely. Money, status, stability, dominance.
[–]cococure 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Older guys are charming as hell. Something about all that experience gives them a level of prestige IMO.
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is pretty much it. If you are decent looking, try to keep fit (old, unkempt fatties don't often have success), have conversational skills, reasonable humor, confidence and aplomb, women of all ages can be interested.
Yes, younger ones, things often get better for men, while most women enter a serious decline after 30. But you need to maintain yourselves.
Money? Right now I'm recovering from a bankrupcy, and putting most of my resources into a new business, so no. Prestige? well, I do have quite a number of friends and acquaintances, so that helps. Wordly? yes. Experience? yes. Conversation? yes. Intensity? yes. Misteriousness? I can play that card. Humor? not bad. Not a stand-up comedian, but I can make people laugh quite often. Looks? I am attractive, tall, carry myself confidently, but there are a ton of young, good looking broncos around. I guess the whole package is what sells
This girl is an exception, my usual range is 35-45. There has been the odd 26-28, but it's not an objective for me. For me it's easier to interact with women closer to my age. More relatable. Also the outlook is different. A hottie may be interested in the romp, but a woman from 35 on will actually be considering the possibility of an LTR, so the investment and effort they put in is greater.
This girl was a barmaid at a place I used to go to, so there was no cold approach needed, she was always extra-friendly. Since she was serving me, I assumed professional friendliness. One day we bumped into each other at another bar, each with a group of friends, and she chatted me up. She gave me all the IOIs in the book, so one day at her workplace, I told her to come with me after work to a music bar. Next day we ended up at a common acquaintance's very large home with a few other people, for late night drinks, and we ended up banging right there in one of the rooms.
That said, I am quite easily accepted by groups of hotties at the type of places I go to, Music/concert bars, and the like. I don't go to clubs, as I don't like the atmosphere, and a guy my age chatting up younger girls there does look creepy. I just banter, joke, tease. I do it in a very non threatening/hungry fashion, very outcome independent, very IDGAF, which by most is seen as funny and/or charming. Often in these groups there will be one or two giving IOIs.
Still, I don't usually go for young women. It's harder, and can be less satifiying. I'd rather hook up with an older woman whom I have chances of later turning into a FWB, or even some sort of relationship, whom I can talk with, about common interests, experiences, etc...
At my age, sex is not the objective, but part of the mix.
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Answered somewhere else in the thread.
[–]BonelessSkinless 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Girls like older guys and money.
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Money is not a pre-requisite.
[–]BonvivantNamedDom 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good story. Much to learn from it.
[–]SpinPlates 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good write up. Thanks for sharing.
[–]Peter_B_Long 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I just want to point out that having other options available and focusing on obtaining new options is key here.
No options - "Ugh, I haven't texted her in 48 hours! Why isn't she texting me"
Options - "Huh, 3 new messages from cute red head. I can't remember the last time I talked to her"
Also, keep in mind that nexting is when you actually let go of this girl. You actually cut your losses and move on. Some times they will contact you again. It's good and it puts you in her frame. You can either reply or just ignore because you have better options available. Some times though, you will never talk again and you have to accept that. Find new options and keep moving forward.
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That is precisely what I did. Wrote her off. And she entered the picture again on her own. No contact. If she displays interest again, then it's up to you to allow her in, or not. I'm the one in power.
She offers. I decide.
[–]Peter_B_Long 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. That is the kind of dynamic you want to have in every relationship. You want to hold the power and have the most options. Why is your post deleted?
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Deleted? I haven' deleted. Unless a mod has done something.
[–]Peter_B_Long 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah bro it says removed.
I'll check with the mods
[–]Saophen 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
God damn you legend I thought I was bad by being 29 with my 23 year old gf.
But she was just so damn hot I had to have her. Your story is inspiring I hope I crush 23 year old pussy when I’m in my 50s
[–]jewfro667 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Do you though? I’m gonna get downvoted for this but I wouldn’t want that at 50.
[–]BonelessSkinless 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would
Variety is nice, it IS a fucking ego boost, and the few peers that know are fucking envious.
This just happened this way. I don't aim to crush 23 year old pussy. As a matter of fact, sex with older women can be more satisfiying. Experience works both ways. A lot of energy is not necessarily a substitute for skill.
[–]nizdi 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Destiny her meeting you in a café? Anyway, you did great.
Not really, we live fairly close, and this Café is in a route we both use a lot. It's in front of the gym I go to daily. Bound to happen. It would have been pretty unlikely not to have met casually.
[–]SassyQ_ 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
But did you get your shades back?
[–]drunkpangolin[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No. Good sign.
[–]SassyQ_ 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Also, cool username my dude
Well, I am a pangolin, and often drunk.
[–]JamalChic 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We all do it.
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