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[–]LikeCaprice 27 points28 points29 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You didn't fail a shit test IMHO.
Younger men people are easy to spot, and youth isn't attractive to women like it is to men.
When someone is pushing 30, they want to know their sexual partner can fulfill them, run with kinks, and has experience.
When you look - and admit to being - 19, that triggers a "big sister" response. You're like Bambi to them.
If you want to dodge this in the future, make a fun game of it. Play some cat and mouse. Be coy.
"How old do you think I am?"
You can also use this to gauge what ages they consider appropriate.
I say this as a 26 year old who has had some TERRIBLE sex with 18 - 20 year olds. If I can, I only pick up people 22 - 24 and up.
[–]obviousyak 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One girl I'm with is 30 rn, and its like she's never kissed anyone before. I try not do think about age as long as it isn't under 21, am 28 currently, but I look more at how they can kiss and fuck. Because it is such a fucking turn off, jesus christ.
[–]TBomberman 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
He should have asked her what's her age, then tell them he's just 3 years older. You do this no matter if they look older or younger.
[–]LikeCaprice 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Why?
[–]TBomberman 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
To extend the fun as long as possible of course.
[–]LikeCaprice 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What's the specific outcome you're going for with that tactic?
What reaction do you want?
[–]TBomberman 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The motivation is to continue the fun. You can do it in a way that you're obviously lying, which is also fun. And if it's not obvious, that's also fun.
[–]JinTheUnleashed 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Don't ever validate yourself defensively. It helps that you joked a bit, but I'm telling you right now it quickly exposes you being insecure about that thing and wanting approval. Even if the response is solid, and not super lame. For example, I'm half azn, if a girl says "oh i heard azn guys have little dicks" trying to be sassy and shit-test me.
If I sit there and go "oh but not all azns are the same.", I'm immediately giving credence to her statement. Instead you need to FLIP IT and put HER ON THE SPOT of validating herself. If shes talking wild shit about your age, you look at her and say "sure, whatever you say grandma. Now why don't you be a good little sugar momma and be nice to the sweet little boy before I break your hips in the bedroom."
Do you see how drastically different that is? Imagine the face on a woman after hearing that shit after running her mouth?
None of these weak ass justifications for why its okay for you to be that age. Why is SHE okay with HER age to you.
Do not EVER get defensive about ANY aspect of yourself, ESPECIALLY aspects of yourself you can't change. This goes deeper then women and into life and accepting yourself period. Trust me man.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4kMVvKvmH2Cy-n2XK6QNv0II66L3VHtV
I have a dating/self improvement channel & podcast, I just made a link above to a "how to pass women's" shit tests playlist I literally just put together because of this thread. Check it out if you want if not, no worries.
I think it could help with your mindset and seeing things from a diff perspective.
Good shit tho brodie, keep us posted.
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[–]JinTheUnleashed 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you brother, much appreciated. You have the number one thing needed for success, enthusiasm and ability to be humble enough to self-reflect. As long as you have those two things you will always grow remember.
Keep us posted fam,
Good shit. You have my respecc
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebanthas 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
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She asked me how old I was and I said 19..... .....her reaction was "aww that's cute". After that, she told me she wasn't into young guys. she encouraged me to go talk to another girl closer to my own age and she said she would help me pick one out.
She asked me how old I was and I said 19.....
.....her reaction was "aww that's cute".
After that, she told me she wasn't into young guys.
she encouraged me to go talk to another girl closer to my own age and she said she would help me pick one out.
What you experienced was not a shit test.
Shit tests are greatly misunderstood. Most of the time, this is what's happening:
A guy is insecure about something and that subject comes up
A guy is too serious and is confronted with a girl who is joking and being playful
A guy is just insecure and the girl is legitimately asking questions to try and get to know him
A girl is actually deliberately trying to gaslight, destabilize, or otherwise put someone off balance.
Or, as in this case, someone subconsciously knows that they aren't interested, and are subconsciously searching for justification.
Short answer here is that you didn't fail a damn thing. Sometimes just can't win with the cards you're dealt.
The gap between 28 and 19 might not matter to some people, particularly to you since you had something you wanted here, but to some people in their late twenties getting closer to 30, the last thing they want to do is hook up with someone who it is barely out of high school.
That's not to say that it's the same with every person in their late twenties or thirties. Clearly some people who are older like to pick up on those or younger.
It's also clear that this woman was not one of those people.
Note: It wouldn't have mattered if you lied about your age. She clearly had a certain impression of you from the very start before you put a number to it.
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I kept joking about it and said that age is just a number, asked her why she wasn't a cougar.....
At this point you were just starting to mortgage your own self respect in an attempt to went over a girl who had made it pretty clear that she wasn't interested.
Sometimes when a girl puts up resistance, she will be amused and could be persuaded by persistence. Sometimes they can't be. It's only by trying to get at a woman like this, that you learn where the line is.
And now you have some data about what it looks like when a woman really is serious about not being interested and yet still likes you as a person.
This is not nothing.and it sounds like she legitimately would have been a really good wingman for you. At least if you were able to get over the fact that she wasn't interested.
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I took that as a clear sign she wasn't interested.....
Sure, although really it sounds like she was pretty clear from the very start and you invested in it a little longer than you really needed to in trying to tell her that she should disregard your age jokingly.
....so I went to go talk to other girls. What could I have done better?
If you fully ejected, went to talk to other women, and didn't interact with her anymore then that was a mistake because she told you she would help you.
That's social proof, man. Creating your own circle of friends, even if it is temporary, while you travel is one of the best things to help with your game while traveling.
And having a woman like her as a wingman is one of the most helpful things you could have had, especially when you're traveling abroad.
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[–]Moderatorrecyclablebanthas 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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She said she would help me pick out a girl for me to go talk to.
She offered to wing you then, right? I fail to see that as a bad thing.
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She seemed adamant about staying with her friends.
Couple things here:
I don't see the problem here at all in her not wanting to leave her friends. It sounds like you could have joined them. Having the social proof of hanging with a group of French women.... and you unintentionally turned it down apparently?! Are you kidding me?
It seems as if you only entertained the idea of her winging you, as if she was going to leave her friends to go do it, and you saw that as you still being in the running with her.
Which was missing the point..... if so.
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I think she was amused by me.
Irrelevant.
While one can sort of fake it through a number of social interactions when they're younger, especially at early drunken parties or while dealing with really insecure girls or otherwise off-balance and immature people, connection is increasingly important to game.
This is not a controversial idea. It is known that substance beyond merely being entertaining or funny, is necessary. This involves some degree of connection or relating to others in some sort of personal way.
Connection isn't amusement. Focusing on how funny you were, or cracking jokes, probably unintentionally pegged you as someone who was trying to fake your way through the interaction.
The older some people get, the more they want something real in their interactions, even if they're only after casual sex.
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[–]LikeCaprice 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I really hate to be that guy - it's "wouldn't have."
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He's that guy, not you in this situation haha.
[–]Dilpil01 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
'you're too young for me...'
'oh really how old are you?'
'28'
'oh well you're also a little too young for me, but I'm gonna make an exception in this case because you seem interesting.'
Also throw a cheeky smile in there.
[–]LikeCaprice 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha
[–]tektools 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Girls are hardwired to be selective and use any excuse they can; She threw that at you and the problem is.. you reacted:
Confidence and going forward non-reactively is almost irresistible - I would have just totally disregarded her age comment and kept charming her.. get some hugs in, tease her about things, keep her laughing and building attraction, get a kiss, take the lead "we're going now, I need some beer/wine, etc."
At one point you'll both know she's into you and as long as you stay non-reactive you have a very good shot.
Picture this: kissing alone in your room, she's like "you're too young.. keep kissing her, and say, "you bought me beer, later you can buy me diapers and a baby bottle..." (its cocky) She laughs her ass off.. then you take her shirt off... and undo her bra flawlessly, suck her nipples, escalate, escalate...
[–]gaelgeagom -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Tell her you don’t want a girl you want a woman when she sent you off to hit on other girls.
[–]LikeCaprice 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
To women, all females who identify as such are "women" over the age of 17. That may not work.
In my experience, it only reinforces the big sister response.
"You're so cute!" and so on.
[–]gaelgeagom 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I have only tried it on one older lady and it worked but you make a fair point.
[–]LikeCaprice 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Will you share more?
The context matters and I want to hear about your success!
[–]gaelgeagom 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She was like twice my age and I got the feeling she didn’t feel as sexy as the younger girls we were around so I made her feel extra special, when she told me to go hit on girls my own age I asked if I was weird because she was so much younger than me and I probably looked like an old creeper talking to her. Etc etc, I think that line is sometimes a test to see just how interested we are.
Ohhhh.
That makes a lot of sense.
I think it definitely can be an interest test. I also think it can be used, especially in your case, as an opener for more flattery.
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