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sparks_to_flames · 2020-08-22T12:44:31+00:00

The best lessons are those learnt from experience, thanks for sharing the details, that's a lot better than pure theory. I also read NMMNG, that shocked me because it described my attitude and the difficulties I was facing...

Unfortunately I learned all this after messing up and losing a girl I have been pursuing for 3 years!

Never heard of Models, I'll check it out.

2020-08-22T13:53:15+00:00

This is great bro, thanks for sharing. I just started my own journey similar to yours man. I'm improving big time and also noticing other parts of me I need to fix as I go along. I will check out the books you mentioned. Mark Manson's Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*CK helped a lots

nuc1earwessels · 2020-08-22T16:16:36+00:00

I'm downloading No More Mr.Nice Guy now. It sounds like it fits in the path I'm working on at the moment. Which is being more assertive and honest about my feelings. Both specifically towards women and in life in general as well.

Solid post, mate. Keep on the track brother, it sounds like you're headed in the right direction.

qock0punch · 2020-08-22T20:10:51+00:00

So I saw your post a few weeks ago talking about No More Mr Nice Guy and picked up the audiobook. Finished it in like 4-5 days, I can't believe how much I related with it. I just got Models also, looking forward to checking it out. I finally got out on a date a few days ago, I still don't know how to really escalate things, or how to read interest levels, but I'll just try to go with it I guess. Thanks for the post man

GrandMasterB19 · 2020-08-22T21:38:51+00:00

So here's the big secret no man on the planet (or at least in seduction) seems to realize. Guys can reject women too. If you talk to a woman, and the only thing you like about her is her looks, let her go. It's okay to qualify women on more than looks, it's called having standards. And it will make it seem more like you are both trying to figure out if you're a good fit for each other, rather than you trying to prove to a girl why you're a good fit for her.

Demnian1422 · 2020-08-23T07:51:43+00:00

I read "The subtle art of not giving a f*ck" first. It put some things that I knew were wrong in words. From there on I read "Models" which perfectly described my situation and helped me remove my biases about women, which were:

Being muscular, rich, handsome, a pro pickup artist and a God in bed - I thought this was the minimum in order not to be considered creepy, or to be considered for a date. I had horrible approach anxiety and I still have it to some degree.

Sadly, I don't have a social circle except for my colleagues where all women are taken. Outside I asked total of 4 girls out with the mindset, "she is cute and if i don't ask her out, I would regret it. I will be honest just as Models suggested". 2 had boyfriends, 2 gave me their Facebook and didn't respond.

My biggest problem right now is that I have a hard time knowing what my moves should be. I am slow to warm up to people, so I have the terrible fear of "If I dont escalate immediately i am going to loose her attention or she is going to friendzone me"

The only way to counter this (as far as I can figure out) is be super honest. Its hard to be confident in yourself if you have never went out on a date. If I pretend that I am confident then I am lying. SO I FEEL LIKE I AM MISSING SOMETHING.

atticusishe · 2020-08-22T23:28:52+00:00

Do you have a link to the models by mark Manson?

Ethan920713 · 2020-08-23T01:18:33+00:00

Upvoted, amazing story and I'm happy to read about you and your journey, keep the good work man!

dourando · 2020-08-25T09:33:33+00:00

Well done on the progress you've made...

It's great to see a gentleman grow and share their developments with others...

I noticed you talking to the ladies and that's a big step on it's on but if you want to escalate. You need to start touching them.

Touch their hands, or graze their arm...

Even moving their hair out of their faces is an escalation.

Women dont let just anyone touch them and if they comfortable enough to have you touch them, you have the opportunity to kiss them.

Another move I've read and have used is staring at her lips and complimenting them...

Tell her that she has soft lips and you'd like to kiss them, once she looks at your lips you lean in and allow her to come closure for you to kiss her...

fagscantstopme9191 · 2020-09-12T22:08:54+00:00

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