Removing nice/sweet label

unchill_ICEE · 2020-12-14T15:00:47+00:00

Okay first of all- nothing wrong with being nice, but it seems you are forgetting the most important element when it comes to attracting women which is "charm" and "confidence" I know plenty of nice guys with both charm and confidence (not cockiness mind you) and they get more girls than any other type of male, no girl will want to be with an asshole long term unless they have personal issue to work out, there is a way to be a nice human but yet give them playful flirty banter that exudes sexual energy and charm and thats what you will want to work on [:

wisdom_is_earned · 2020-12-14T14:30:14+00:00

This is something so subtle and tricky. But the difference is that only one of the two nice guys that are otherwise the same will subtly but absolutely clearly convey that he does not have any need for any woman present. But it's not a game. It's just a fact. It isn't because he is better. It's because he is enough as himself.

Men can also play the arrogant end of the spectrum, or the jerk, and they will also have some success, for reasons I won't bother to go into here. But it all has to do with the way humans perceive value in potential mates. The number one way to lower your value is to be too available. Think supply and demand. If you even appear needy, you're done.

This0neTime23 · 2020-12-14T18:16:48+00:00

Kind guys deserve all the sex, just make sure to show your competitive or charming side and you'll be golden. You need to be able to switch modes

Humpzelot · 2020-12-14T20:57:50+00:00

being nice is good, but too nice isn’t. If you’re complimenting a girl with the hopes of her liking you, or saying what you think she wants to hear, you’re being too nice. Your kindness should come off as being very genuine, so if you compliment someone it should be genuine and you should not expect anything in return, like making a general observation if that makes sense. You also might be doing a little too much pushing and not enough pulling. Like you can compliment them, then playfully call them out when you’re together as an example

bloodspill55 · 2020-12-14T20:03:15+00:00

Don't be afraid to talk about your opinions even if its counter to what they believe or feel.

RaRaKINGRJW · 2020-12-14T18:35:50+00:00

Can’t believe it people on the internet made people believe being a so called “nice guy” is wrong.🤦🏽‍♂️😂 none of that matters if a girl likes you sexually or not. You probably just being a pushover or something. Best thing I could tell you is don’t be a pushover and don’t do things because you expect something in return, but because you want to. Read that again.

Czekraft · 2020-12-14T19:37:56+00:00

The only thing that's going to hurt your chances is overthinking it. There's nothing wrong with getting a girl flowers for no reason, or getting someone a gift just because it reminded you of them. The important thing is to do it in moderation because by not freeing your schedule for someone else you are saying your time is valuable.

cptndv23 · 2020-12-14T22:45:11+00:00

Don't stop being nice. Just make it known that you want more than a friendship. Even something as simple as acting a little sexually flustered when they do something attractive. I like to compliment them on something totally out of left field that isn't the usual compliment. Like "not gonna lie, the way you did that has me feelin some kind of way, whew!" or something playful like that. Don't say youre pretty. Thats just something they hear a lot. Tell them their hair has got you steamin up inside or somethin creative along those lines.

SometymesAllTheTime · 2020-12-15T03:46:57+00:00

Half of this advice on here is bad, like BAD BAD.

Instead of being nice/sweet all of the time, try to upgrade to more of a refined "kind" and "understanding".

You probably so a lot of little sweet acts but instead do less frequent but more kind and genuine acts. Women know men will do all sorts of things to get their attention in the beginning which is why it doesn't really phase us. But if we can tell you're truly genuine and you mean what you say, it might spark an interest.

Words lose their meaning when too much is said.

kettlebell_workout · 2020-12-14T18:14:38+00:00

You don't need to remove that "Label".

You are who you are. Been doing a game for a while, and women still call me sweet. I am the nice guy, I always been and am. Any attempt to pretend just backfired to me.

What you need to change is the dominance. You have to be the dominant one. You can be a nice guy but must be dominant and IN CONTROL. You decide where to go, when to kiss, when to finish, how long, everything. She just follows you.

Your body language is dominant as well. You take lots of space, you walk in front. Everywhere you go you feel like at home. When you come to the restaurant, You say what table you want if they don't give you leave and look for another. It has to be your way. Some people/women won't like this, then you just find someone who will.

You NEVER ASK, you just DO IT. The only time you let her take charge is when you feel LAZY, the decision is not important and is not related to the relationship itself.

The combination of the SWEET but DOMINANT guy can take you very far with a woman. First of all is very easy to approach them, cause you appear very unthreatening. Creating rapport becomes easy as well. Also, this combination makes you very playful and boyish, you can get away with almost everything without being a jerk.

However, you will have a very hard time in seducing 9/10 "bitchy" "queen" types of women, cause by definition they are looking for assholes, who will show their place. But when you are nice, you just don't feel like offending people, cause it just does not seem the right thing to do.

But, in any case, seducing normal/intelligent women, who think that being nice is a sign of virtue and not the weakness, will be easy for you.

Hope that helps.

iderzer · 2020-12-14T14:23:20+00:00

Read The Game by Neil Strauss.

RaRaKINGRJW · 2020-12-14T21:23:25+00:00

I feel like this dude thinks being labeled nice is not getting him laid😂 he probably a pushover tbh🤷🏽‍♂️ this post seems so corny n fake

revente · 2020-12-14T18:23:40+00:00

Be nice but dominant. Make the girls cater to your whims.

PayDrum · 2020-12-15T01:14:35+00:00

Dont be too selfless; be a little selfish, its perfectly fine. Be honest but not too honest; playing some mind games every once in a while wont hurt you. Most importantly tho, do not give away compliments. Make your compliments earnable. Compliments are only worth to the person if they had to fight to get it; if you gave them away like loose candy, you will come off as too nice and sweet. Remember that you're always out to serve your own interests first and other peoples second.

axe122 · 2020-12-15T01:35:23+00:00

Just start giving people shit, men and women in a way that they know your joking. Like if a girl asks you to get her a beer and you’d usually get it. Instead of doing that give her shit for being so lazy (let her know your having fun with your tone) If you do get it for her you’ll trade for a shoulder rub. If your looking for an easy way that you can still treat people well but also be a bit of dick this will work. A little Cocky funny works well too. It’s like you don’t take yourself to seriously but you still said it. Your clearly joking but your also not back down from whatever cocky shit you said. You don’t take yourself to seriously and can laugh at mistakes you make but also don’t mind talking a little shit.

theurgeoftheflesh · 2020-12-15T02:05:31+00:00

Sorry for formatting and all around being on mobile.

Being nice is great but the key to not coming off overly sweet is to not lead with the inner urge to appease or overly please the said woman. If you want to come off less sweet then be more succinct and simplistic when you speak.

For example I find really nice overly sweet guys attempt to over explain or butter the situation and it comes off anxious and fervent.

ALSO body language. Very big with effortless confidence. It almost starts with practicing an air until it becomes learned and natural. Eye contact, head held straight and not bent, back straight and not bent, shoulders back, chin lift here and there, also gentle hands. Practice subtle non erratic hand movements, they can draw someone in convincingly. Hands hooked along belt line, small engaging gestures when speaking and for fucks sake please practice smiling with your eyes and not just your mouth. The idea is to with out words emit a comfortable sensual ease.

Body language and simplicity with out self deprication is the best place to start until you find what flow works best for you.

ALSO PLEASE do not attempt to substitute overt sweetness with entirely dickish behaviour. The women that are attracted to giant asshole guys are usually pretty damaged and have baggage you might not be prepared to unpack. Plus, no self respecting woman wants that. Slight sarcastic dickishness is one thing.

That is a loose guide to in person impressions.

Losing a label however either takes one perfectly executed situation that alters your reputation dramatically or you have the long con situation.

This consists of multiple situations where people experience you in a new light that challenges their pre conceived opinion of you that they then share with others, which by the gift of word of mouth can aid in changing this label.

Good luck ya big fuckin softy :)

ashketchum2ketch · 2020-12-15T16:20:33+00:00

I had this exact problem and you honestly know what the issue is? Your just a more sexually disciplined person. Your not a man where sex keeps you around and the women pick up on that. It’s a shame that nowadays it’s almost feels as though you get “penalized” for having depth. Take all your nice quirks and turn the heat up a bit. I’m a nice ass guy honestly lol but I used to love fresh prince. As I got older I just found ways to use my humor and laidback demeanor as charmful. Your clearly a clever and intelligent guy. Hit girls with quick ass slick ass phrases that’d catch them off guard. They value intelligence and the fact that your mind can’t be controlled by them. Ultimately look yourself in the mirror and make yourself the coolest guy you can be lol even if it might seem corny, cheesy. Trust me the fact you did the “cheesiest” thing in front of everyone unapologetically will be the reason why you’d walk out with the finest girl there.

SammySafari22 · 2020-12-16T05:34:36+00:00

Best way to get a girl is to put her in the friend zone - Jack Harlow

Title	Removing nice/sweet label
Author	cive420
Upvotes	35
Comments	54
Date	December 14, 2020 2:07 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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