Is it oppressive when men achieve goals?

AbysmalDescent · 2024-06-09T00:45:11+00:00

Society/Women to men: "If you don't achieve goals, you're a piece of garbage and you don't deserve any acceptance, love or support. You're entitled to nothing and we shouldn't have to tolerate you".

Society/Women to men: "If you achieve goals, you're an oppressive asshole and it's your fault if other men feel like pieces of garbage or want to kill themselves when they fail. Oh, and we're entitled to benefit from your success now too".

Ptoney1 · 2024-06-09T03:04:32+00:00

Actually yes. Sort of depends on the person…. But I have had a female coworker who is/was jealous of my success and position try to do shit to make me look bad. And it is done in the name of feminism / women’s rights.

She ended up in therapy and on a leave. Toxic bullshit.

ggleblanc2 · 2024-06-08T21:02:33+00:00

There is no patriarchy as feminists define the term. It is not oppressive and is appropriate for men to set goals and achieve them.

CrowMagpie · 2024-06-08T21:05:49+00:00

This thinking is one of the things that brought me here; I realized that anything I do, any achievement I hav, will be 'wrong' because I'm not a minority.

That put me against the people who say such things.

No-Fu-No-Fu · 2024-06-09T00:38:43+00:00

Of course. Men need to stop in middle of what they are doing and help women instead.

If yall men are weightlifting, drop that dumbbell and cook something greasy and fat for your gal.

/s

TenuousOgre · 2024-06-08T21:05:38+00:00

Patriarchy theory isn’t an accurate theory. If you used oligarchy or something and left out the genders, basically the rich and powerful do all they can to become more wealthy and grow their power, that works. But it’s not just men. Kings had queens who raised the next generation and princesses who were used to establish family and working ties, as much for the women in the family as the men.

Antonija_Blagorodna · 2024-06-10T02:54:04+00:00

Women hate seeing men being successful.

WeEatBabies · 2024-06-08T21:45:32+00:00

There is no patriarchy, losing 20 lbs is not toxic!

In fact by losing 20 lbs you clear a lot of space in your country's health care system.

In other words, you are doing everyone including yourself a favor.

Thank you!

Grand-Juggernaut6937 · 2024-06-08T22:26:19+00:00

It’s about equity not equality. Go eat a tub of ice cream or you’re misogynistic.

Extreme_Spread9636 · 2024-06-09T12:38:15+00:00

Over the course of the last ten years, I've been watching everything unfold.

The sheer entitlement and the believes that they're oppressed stems from one fundamental wrong believe. Life is fair. It isn't.

Everyone one of them want to be in a higher class with someone of a higher class. At the same time, they're trying to keep everyone else in a lower class. The reason why they haven't achieved anything in the last twenty years is because they are in a classical capitalistic loop. If everyone is rich, nobody is. If everyone is successful, nobody is.
Just because you work hard, doesn't mean that you will reach success. The believe is that they put more effort than the rest of the people. They didn't. You can't make them believe that they put less effort, because they put their maximum effort into this.

Sea_Treat7982 · 2024-06-09T17:05:54+00:00

Unless you're known, nobody really cares what you do. When I lost 40 pounds last year I didn't have a they/them approach me and accuse me of something.

RandomYT05 · 2024-06-09T09:33:05+00:00

They're oppressing you by making you think those thoughts.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!! THEY'RE USING YOU ALL YOUR LIFE FOR THEIR FUCKED UP AGENDA!!! BREAK FREE WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!!

Vaudeville_Clown · 2024-06-09T10:14:29+00:00

This is a tad glib, but not entirely without merit.

It raises an interesting question. Shouldn't feminists then be grateful for the minimalist low-achieving white man?

As you pointed out, it means he didn't occupy any seat in that coveted education programme. He never elbowed his way into any promotion. Hell, even his lifestyle could be considered environmentally sustainable and sound as he occupies such little space and consume so little, compared to higher earners, not to mention families.

If we'd look at it from the perspective of their shitty theories, this guy should arguably be a hero. After all, he looks at power, wealth, dominance and says fuck it, I'm out. How about that?

But we know the answer to this, don't we? These men ironically piss feminists and hivemind "progressive" women off far more than any heartless finance fat cat type of man, which is extremely ironic.

Due to this lopsidedness in their attention and complaining, they actually encourage men to be masculine in exactly those ways they supposedly disprove of. Funny that.

At the very least, I think career obsessed ladies who also likes to self-brand as a feminist/progressive, they're morally obligated to at least find and wed a poorish man who's being exploited in a low-paying care professions, and be faithful to him (because men in care jobs = progress, and thus should be an acceptable out for men).

Show me that and I'd say, okay fair. At least this (hypothetical) feminist lives as she learns, nevermind if her beliefs are insane. I can at least respect that to a point.

ShadowBanConfusion · 2024-06-08T21:12:03+00:00

Huh? No.

Title	Is it oppressive when men achieve goals?
Author	paraque159
Upvotes	104
Comments	21
Date	June 8, 2024 8:33 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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