Famous feminist "fact" shee(i)t about partner homicide commit by women

SuspicousEggSmell · 2024-10-06T20:10:02+00:00

interesting that they use women but say males instead of men, considering it’s usually considering dehumanizing to say females

Bomber_Man · 2024-10-06T20:40:48+00:00

How old is this thing? The most recent citation is over 30 years old. Hell there’s a fax number on the bottom to contact the group that made it. No wonder no one can find these sources. Even if they haven’t been de-bunked or mis-used, their sheer age makes any half-assed inferred claim in this infographic irrelevant by default.

Tardigrade_Disco · 2024-10-06T22:26:22+00:00

"I killed him because he battered me" is the biggest lie ever. It's a golden legal defense because dead men can't speak. They killed their husbands because they were abusers that escalated. Then lied to get a lower sentence.

TheNatureGrandpa · 2024-10-06T20:48:45+00:00

On the first point alone, bet the very same thing could be stated about men in prison (having been battered & abused in their lives)

Also notice they're playing the mother-card (won't someone please think of the children!!!) as what to them should presumably be a get-out-of-jail-free card... I'd rather they be adopted out than raised by mothers that provide a poor role model for these children. And of course again, motherhood is placed above fatherhood.

SpicyMarshmellow · 2024-10-06T20:16:10+00:00

My first reaction is.... almost all these bullet points are repeating that women are killing their abusers or in self-defense. But there is no information here regarding whether there are any criteria for accepting the woman's claims. In how many of these cases was the man found to be guilty of domestic violence by a court or any sort of critical process?

To the best of my knowledge, self-defense, even lethal self-defense, is 100% legal, and a successful self-defense argument in court should not result in prison time. So what's going on here? Are these women failing to convince a court room that they acted in self-defense, but succeeding in convincing these studies?

And finally, I don't think this infosheet paints an honest picture when it talks about women's self-defense, but not the realities men face when they try to act in self-defense. It's dishonest by omission. If we're going to gender the issue of being unfairly punished for self-defense when faced with an aggressor of the opposite sex, that gendering should indisputably be in recognition of men's total lack of options in that situation. And I'd bet a finger that if they showed stats on how many women *DONT* face legal consequences for killing a man on claims of self-defense, vs how many men do or don't face consequences when claiming self-defense, that it would strongly support that conclusion.

StandardFaire · 2024-10-06T23:22:35+00:00

“How could you put all these mothers in prison?!”, says the people who repeatedly remind us that there’s more to women than just being mothers

MathematicianTop6153 · 2024-10-06T20:10:11+00:00

I checked most of these studies and couldn't find the source. Even if they were real findings they are worded in a provocative way almost like a propaganda piece. It is common to find feminist articles and papers with dubious references and citations. The confirmation bias is always strong in these.

Tevorino · 2024-10-06T21:18:10+00:00

For crying out loud, the first two "sources" are a 1991 presentation by a domestic violence grifter, and a Boston Globe article. This isn't even high-effort disinformation; they are so obviously talking out of their arses.

92% of women in California prisons say they have been battered and abused in their lifetimes? Okay, sure, because convicted criminals are such a credible cohort, right? Each and every one of them who claims something must be telling the truth. That's why it makes perfect sense to just ask each convict, on the way into prison, whether or not they are actually innocent.

flapado · 2024-10-06T21:56:28+00:00

I doubt this sheet has proper sources cited and who knows what methodology was used in them. and the ones that are cited are really outdated. The oldest one is in the late 70s. Honestly, I would like to see a modern, unbiased women self-defense murder study done just to see if these line up at all, but this is probably not going to happen. To me, this just seems like a bunch of cherry-picked numbers from a while ago.

WeEatBabies · 2024-10-06T21:07:54+00:00

Well considering they have a study(from 1991) to back it, it has at least some merit.

Assuming the study is well done and everything here is true, I would then be interested to if we could do the same study on men.

With the Duluth Model being women victim centric, would even worst results be seen in the study with men since feminist domestic violence perpetrators beat men with the full proxy violence of the State.

LucastheMystic · 2024-10-07T00:12:23+00:00

This feels like ragebait

Stellakinetic · 2024-10-07T02:36:44+00:00

So… you’re going to trust murderers when you ask them if they’re innocent?

griii2 · 2024-10-07T10:27:51+00:00

I wrote about one of those recently:

Lie that won't die - No, women do not serve longer prison sentences after killing abusers : r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates

Phuxsea · 2024-10-06T19:10:29+00:00

I don't know how to respond to this

Due_Wish7947 · 2024-10-07T00:02:39+00:00

I’m unfamiliar with this fact sheet so when was it published? If recently it’s in serious need of updating.

But assuming its accuracy, I’m highly critical of the criminal justice system so most of these women don’t deserve to be in prison. But my concern is that when people read this they’ll jump to the conclusion that we need to maintain the status quo or worse advocate for a more robust prison system for male offenders. It’s things like these, if misused, can feed into our desire to discipline and punish, which if we have learned anything, this desire mostly affects disadvantaged communities. And since men make up the overwhelming majority of the prison population, perhaps it would behoove society and the powers that be to provide a similar in-depth analysis of their criminal behavior and the conditions that helped create them. Just a thought.

snippychicky22 · 2024-10-07T01:49:23+00:00

2000 out of 150 million

No_Editor_4328 · 2024-10-07T14:47:49+00:00

If it was in self defense they wouldn’t be in prison.You can’t go to jail if you were defending yourself

Title	Famous feminist "fact" shee(i)t about partner homicide commit by women
Author	OsadShadoww
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Date	October 6, 2024 7:06 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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